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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2008, 12:35:35 AM »

Yes, they have become my favorite source for news. As with anything that involves the truth, WND is under attack by many different people and groups. They have come close a number of times to being shut down but so far all those attempts have failed. I especially enjoy reading the commentaries from people like  Joseph Farah (founder, editor and CEO of WND), Jerome Corsi, Dennis Prager and Chuck Norris.

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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2008, 02:45:19 PM »

Oh, I'm so glad to hear that, guys! There's so much good information there, but it takes him a while to lay the groundwork. I didn't want to be putting anybody to sleep. And I agree, WND is reporting what not too many others are, and even though it is startling, it's so good to know as much of the truth as we can.

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"The Communist Chinese also operates both ends of the Panama Canal, same company, Hutchison/Wampole. And they're gonna deepen and widen the Panama Canal so these super container ships can sail across into the ports like Houston, Corpus Christi, New Orleans and across even to Miami. And I 35 will not be the only NAFTA Super Hwy., cause they're also planning I 69 which comes up in a route closer through Memphis, east of I 35, entering Canada just north of Chicago. They're planning a CanaMex, the Canadian/Mexican Super Hwy. which will come down by the Rocky Mtns. Three cities have declared themselves to be inland ports; Kansas City, San Antonio and Denver. Where's the water?

They're inland ports for the Mexican ports called LazaroCardenes and Manzanilla, and what they wanna be is the warehouse hubs for the inter-modal containers. Because worldwide, our multi-national corporations have now introduced supply side, ya know, ready at the time of manufacturing, this whole supply chain economics. Where it's OK if they manufacture parts here, and other things there, and they just bring them together and assemble them. They'll all be manufactured outside the US, they'll be assembled outside the US, then they'll just be transported into the US. As we move from being a manufacturing country with a strong middle class, we're gonna be moving toward a container-moving society, driving TOLL ROADS on our way to 40 million jobs (or more as you said Pastor Roger) being outsourced, and there being NO AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS! Who's the winner? Multi-national corporations and the elite who agree with them.

Borders are obsolete. As we all grew up in our thinking, we'll realize that families are obsolete, borders are obsolete, GOD IS OBSOLETE according to these groups. Because in this Godless agenda the only thing that matters is profit, unbridled profit. But the Bible says about human beings, when they get so impressed with profit it's 'not attractive'. That we allow it to happen without informing ourselves and saying, 'NO', we become culpable in their sin. This has nothing to do with free trade, this has to do with slavery. This has nothing to do with democracy, this has to do with destroying democracy. The USA, as a sovereign nation, needs to be preserved. Our Declaration of Independence, our Bill of Rights openly declared that our rights are inalienable, given by God, so that we are set up by our nature to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And our founding fathers believed that our institutions of govenment were not accidental, but were determined by human nature. Such that if we did not have this particular constitutional republic in which the Executive, Legislative and Judicial were limited and balanced against each other, if we didn't have that structure we would lose those freedoms that we were seeking to protect.

As we advancve down this road NAFTA, you'll be made sure it's for your security and prosperity, and how many times have we been warned that when people reassure us with nice sounding phrases, that we're in the process of being lied to. George Orwell reminded us in '1984', Aldous Huxley in 'Brave New World'. The Bible calls Satan the great deceiver. When we're being told this is not important. Well, if it's not important, put an end to it. We don't need the SPP.

Turn on your local syndicated news channel and watch inconsequential incidents. Take a look at the soap opera, how all the major presidential candidate debates don't have a single question on immigration or on the SPP, not a single question on why they tolerate trade agreements with China that are totally unfair, resulting in 1.3 trillion dollars of foreign exchange currency in China, and endless and growing negative trade balances which risk our national secruity.

And the millions of containers - one island being built off of Shanghai, an artificial island, that is 270 soccer fields in area - that one artificial island alone will export to the US 30 million containers a year. The Chinese won't even want the containers sent home - our middle class can use them, I guess, to live in as we lose our homes and our jobs. What we have here is a plan to destroy the soverignty of the US, the middle class of the US, creating a N. American Union, NAFTA Super Hwy, the new currency the AMERO, and the only winners are the elite who are beyond God, beyond nation states, and beyond the USA, and the multi-nat'l corporations who are willing to pay politicians of both parties to do this deed. The only thing standing between it happening and today is US. The only thing that can stop this is WE THE PEOPLE, and GOD can put an end to this plan.

As our economics deteriorate, as the jobs go overseas, as the dollar deteriorates, we'll hear the argument that we must adapt to a global economy, and that means we've gotta go into regional agreements with our neighbors, otherwise how can we be competitive. Competitive means lower pay, because what the corporations are saying is '...we'll move to wherever we can find the slaves, China, Indonesia, wherever they are as long as they're there to use them we'll use them, and come back to the US and say US labor isn't productive enough', which translates, demands too much money to be paid, too much of a living wage.

This is all being done in the name of Security and Prosperity. How are we more secure when our borders are wide open? Mexico is a drug cartel controlled country and terrorists are finding a way to buy their way into the US. And we're turning a blind eye to the sleeper cells that are within our midst, even though we have terrorists in Federal Prison who got into our midst through the southern border. Even though we find repeated incidents of foiling terrorist plots by people who entered the country illegally or people who overstayed their visas.

There should be no more patriotic American than Bill Gates. He's a dropour from school. If he had not gotten the license from IBM to use the DOS system, if we had not bought his products in our personal computers, where would Bill Gates be? He's one of the wealthiest billionaires in the world. But what does he want? Unlimited Hb1 visas, so he can get his next generation of computer scientists from India, undercutting our kids, going to college with computer science degrees. They're too expensive for Bill Gates. Well, maybe somebody should have told that to Bill Gates when he wanted the MS DOS license. What gives him the right to abuse American workers, our children, just for another billion dollars out of India? And the idea that this will develop India, develop China, NO - it'll make the millionaires and billionaires who manage India and China more millions and billions like Bill Gates, everybody else gets exploited.

The millions of people coming across the border from Mexico to do slave wage labor in factories, and Bush says these are jobs Americans wont do. Sure, for no pay and no benefits Americans won't and can't do those jobs and be able to live as they have the right to, we went through decades of labor unions struggling for employment rights creating the expectation that Americans would get health insurance at their place of employment. Within one generation, we've forgotten about that, and allowed, in the name of almighty profit, the corporations to say, '...you can work here and buy your health insurance that we don't pay you enough to afford...', and we tolerate that.

The loss of homes, the loss of jobs that are going to occur under this plan in America will reduce this country to a second class country in the name of free trade and globalism. You will be brainwashed into your own destruction while watching on the cable news, soap opera after soap opera, lost boyscouts, runaway brides, but not a single candidate will have the courage of Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter, to stand up and demand to be heard on these subjects.

Oklahoma has created an organization called 'OK SAFE'. Oklahoma has said the NAFTA Super Hwy. will stop here at the border. Senator Randy Bogden was there, republican senator, and he stood up in the legislture and blocked a bill that was going to send the infrastructure flying in a stealth way. The proponents of the Trans-Texas Corridor into Oklahoma submitted a bill that didn't even by name mention the highway. But yet had referenced a federal register pages and clauses that would have allowed the structure of laws in Oklahoma to build a highway. And when he found that out and opposed it, he was able to kill that motion that time. This was a stealth maneuver, below the radar. He has strong opponents, Cargill, the Speaker of the House in Oklahoma, has been bringing in experts from the Reason Foundation, this guy named Richard Poole, who is an advocate of PPP, where our roads, in the next generation in America will be TOLL ROADS OWNED BY FOREIGN INVESTMENT CONCERNS. The fight will have to occur state by state, and Oklahoma's the next state...

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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2008, 04:14:15 PM »

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Oklahoma has created an organization called 'OK SAFE'. Oklahoma has said the NAFTA Super Hwy. will stop here at the border. Senator Randy Bogden was there, republican senator, and he stood up in the legislture and blocked a bill that was going to send the infrastructure flying in a stealth way. The proponents of the Trans-Texas Corridor into Oklahoma submitted a bill that didn't even by name mention the highway. But yet had referenced a federal register pages and clauses that would have allowed the structure of laws in Oklahoma to build a highway. And when he found that out and opposed it, he was able to kill that motion that time. This was a stealth maneuver, below the radar. He has strong opponents, Cargill, the Speaker of the House in Oklahoma, has been bringing in experts from the Reason Foundation, this guy named Richard Poole, who is an advocate of PPP, where our roads, in the next generation in America will be TOLL ROADS OWNED BY FOREIGN INVESTMENT CONCERNS. The fight will have to occur state by state, and Oklahoma's the next state...

YEAH! - ATTABOYS!

Average people don't want this at all, especially when they find out what it really is. "FORCED INTEGRATION" was specifically mentioned in many of the early plans, so there was never any intent to ask or inform the people. They already know that informed people will SAY NO! They already know that what they're doing is illegal and Unconstitutional. As far as I'm concerned, it's time for CRIMINAL CHARGES AND PRISON!
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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 04:35:54 PM »

Yup, they know what they're doing, blackeyedpeas, and the poor people of Europe didn't see it coming, but because of them we can see the exact same steps being taken! I guess the elites figured no one would take notice. I'm so glad people are getting the word out, and amazed that some of the politicians are still honest, Christian servants of the people and actually put the people's best interest ahead of political gain. God bless those guys!

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Next they'll have to fight it in Kansas and Missouri, in Iowa, in Minnesota, all the way up Interstate 35. But state by state, and the grassroots is the way to fight this. Because the main stream media won't cover it. There's only 5 multi-national corporations that control 90% of our news. They're not gonna let a message come to you that talks about multi-nat'l corporate control having to be broken up. They're gonna play more stories on the runaway bride, more stories about inconsequential stuff, and meanwhile they build the infrastruture of Public/Private highways where the investment bankers and the lawyers and the Federal gov't get together to explore how they're gonna make billions selling our highways and corporcreating a next generation of toll roads owned by corporations in Spain, and in Brazil, and in Australia, and in Germany.

You know if the Trans-Texas Corridor is a good deal for CINTRA and Spain, why isn't it a good deal for the people of Texas to own that road? Well, the answer is because Governor Perry of Texas is gonna get millions of dollars in campaign contributions from CINTRA and their chosen construction company, Zachery. And those campaign contributions drive him to veto something like 6 or 8 bills that the Texas legislature passed in the last session tp block this Trans-Texas corridor. They put a 2 year moritorium on it. So what does Gov. Perry do? He vetos all the bills. Half of them he vetoed when the state legislature was out of session. Texas legislature doesn't come back into session for 2 years.

If you google PPP plus The Federal Hwy Admin., you'll find a whole section on the Fed. Hwy Admin website that is devoted to teaching the states how to change their law so they can have PPP highways sold to foreigners. 21 states have already changed their laws. On that website you get a map that shows you each state that's changed its laws. Then they show you the sample projects that've been done, CINTRA, the investment consortium in Spain - not only the Trans-Texas Corridor but they've leased the Chicago Skyway, and the Indiana toll road for decades to come. Driving the Chicago Skyway or the Indiana toll road, you're gonna be paying Spain for the privilege to do so. And guess what? The legal firm that represents CINTRA is a partnership with Rudy Giuliani, Bracewell and Giuliani, a lawfirm.

You know Rudy Giuliani gets asked about NAFTA Super Hwys he says he doesn't know anything about them. Lie after lie, denial after denial, the same thing that Jean Monnet advised in his memoirs in the European Union. Jean Monnet advised that he believed that World Gov't was the only way to solve disputes. This idea of World Govt traces back to thinkers like Hagel and Marx, they believed that we would transcend nation/states, that we would transcend families and God - all these primitive ideas, and that we would let the bureaucrats rule things according to rational law and order. And they write articles where they say, '...look, Europe hasn't had another war, so look at all the progress we're making...' while meanwhilethe nameless bureaucrats in Brussels and Luxomburg will not allow any state legislature to pass a law they haven't already apporved. They dictate the immigration policies and the central banking policies, where they set the value of the currency so that if retirees all thoughout Europe lose billions, they have no choice but to do so. Because the bureaucrats have determined to set the rules in favor of the multi-natl corps an the elite. And you won't find God mentioned anywhere. In fact, God is X'd out, just as right now an effort is being made to remove God from our schools, our branches of govt, our currency, our Supreme Court. God is under attack in this move toward bureaucrats and a One World Order.

Aristotle said everything was political, and he's right. The bureaucrats just get the opportunity to enact their particular ideas, their narrow idea of politics, which is a multi-corporate agenda, the corporations rule all. And I have no confidence that the United Nations or the EU is gonna defend our inalienable rights. The first things to go are gonna be the 1st and 2nd Ammendment, free speech will be gone, replaced by hate crime laws. 2nd Ammendment - your guns will be determined to be dangerous to the Mexicans living among us. These challenges to freedom are inevitable and coming. And if anyone dares utter the name Jesus Christ, they'll be treated as they're treated now in China. I mean when Pres. Bush goes to Va. Tech., and gives a speech after the students died, he doesn't once mention the name Jesus Christ - why is that? Yet he talks about Allah. Jerry Falwell dies, Bush doesn't go to the funeral. We must not be led to a Godless state. In God We Trust, it must stay that way.

We the people, who are the government are the ones who can stop this. It's gotta be state by state. I dont' expect people are going to immediately catch on. National Sovereignty is an idea that you really have to understand means that some other group, the nameless bureaucrats in Brussels, the working groups we don't even know about, the Tri-lateral bureaucrats in 20 working groups, N. American Transportation working group, N. Amercan Health working group, they make the rules. It takes awhile to catch onto the idea that we're not in charge anymore. Well, once people do catch onto the idea and see the reality, because if the Mexican trucks come into the US how are you going to hide them? If we have 50 million Mexicans living in the US, who's gonna deny it? At certain points, yes right now, go to states like Ohio or Pennsylvania or Michigan - I grew up in Ohio, it was bustling in steel manufacturing - today it looks like Appalachia.

I was recently in Maine, the great industries in Maine - the logging, the fishing - the only place you'll find them is in the museum of industry at the state capital. Half the people in Maine either work for the govt, are retired or on welfare. We cannot have a society in which half the people are not working. And if there are no productive jobs to be done, what's a service economy mean anyway? A service economy is flipping hamburgers at MacDonald's. The good jobs are being lost and we ship the technology with them. Bill Clinton never saw a campaign contribution from China, legal or illegal, that he didn't like. And he never saw a secret he kept China from getting. We publish our patents on the internet. Any country that wants can steal them.

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When we outsource the manufacturing of technical parts, and we outsource the technical knowlege that's needed to make those compoments, we give it away. So people say, then Americans can advance into more highly sklilled, intellecutual labor and more productive work - not when we give away trade secrets. The kids who are going to school today, when they realize increasingly, that they're coming out of college and not able to find work it's gonna hit them. It's these realizations, I think, that will wake people up.

I was on a panel with one of the editors or the Wall St. Journal, and he was bragging about globalism and global economy and how wonderful it was, and I spoke after him and I said, 'The only reason he's saying this is that he doesn't think that the Wall St. Journal can find somebody from India who'll write his economic analysis for half of what the pay him, so I wanna come back and talk to him 6 mos. after Murdoch publishes the Wall St. Journal, we'll see how much he likes globalism then...' There's no job that you can't find somebody to do cheaper, you can outsource the legal work, you can outsource everything. But you can't oursource the dignity of work unless you allow unbridled capitalism to go to the lowest common denominator, and then everybody except those at the top lose.

What we have as a system of free enterprise has been bridled and tempered by labor unions who've fought for the working class, by a recognition that Nat'l Security means something, that we want to keep jobs for Americans- what happened to 'Made in Amerrica'? Does it mean nothing? And if we start putting this 'country of origin' labeling, that says clearly where things come from, Americans would have a chance to vote with their pocketbooks - when they go to the stores to buy clothes, when they go into the grocery stores.

If Americans stayed away from WalMart for a quarter, it would throw Wall St. into a panic. If Americans said 'No, we're not gonna do it anymore, next quarter we're not going to WalMart or KMart or any of the other Marts - we're not buying anything until this mess is cleaned up'. If American consumers stopped and went on strike Wall St. would panic. That's how much power people have.

If American people get on the phone and call in - ya know these offices are small in Congress, only 5 or 10 people on a staff, even in Senators offices, 100 phone calls in a day jams their switchboard; 100 faxes - they don't know what to do with them. You can actually write letters, or go to see them, sit in the offices and say I don't care if the senator's on the floor, I'm from the state, I'm gonna wait in this office until he sees me, it's a public office, I'll sit here, and when it closes I'll leave, I'll be back in the morning. If I do this for a week, he's gonna talk to me.' If you sit there politely you have a right to do that, and you will get talked to. This is the power we still have. I spend some days between 5 an 8 hours a day on talk radio, just to get the message out. And when the message is out, the republicans and the democrats alike say we've gotta limit talk radio, because they want to be able to control the agenda.

One of the hard things that people have to allow themselve to see is we all say, '...our president wouldn't do this he's conservative...' but he's not, he's a globalist. If he wasn't he would secure our border, bring SPP to the Congress and have a vote on it, what's he afraid of? People who won't bring something to you are afraid you're gonna say no. Why did the Mexican trucks have to come in the middle of the night? The first Mexican truck that came into our country was at 2a.m. The press conference that announced it was 9 pm on the phone to a few select Washington newsmen from one of the Federal Motor Carrier Admins., John Hill - that's disgraceful! That's secrecy - it's middle of the night creeping in the shadows. The only people that do that are scoundrels. And we're publishing 30 pages of White House websites, to show you where they are and what they're doing. If this is a conspiracy, it's being done in the open, on gov't websites. Just take an hour and look at them.

I'm writing articles on World Net Daily almost everyday. If you click the links to the sources I'm talking about it will take you directly to the website with the source information - you can see it there. So if you can see the documents and they exist, then I'm not a conspiracy theorist - this is real - and you can come to the conclusion yourself. I'll tell you where they are, even though the govt doesn't want you to see them. It's who are you gonna believe, the person lying to you or your own eyes.

A 1200 foot highway is fine if it has to do with something that the people own, the people finance, and it solves a need that the people are concerned with, like congestion on the highways. This Trans-Texas Corridor is not going to solve anybody's congestion. It's gonna go around Dallas, around San Antonio, it's not connecting to them. And with the non-compete agreements that these PPP have at their core, it prohibits Texas from developing a highway to compete - so Spain says, 'I get the tolls collected on the Trans Texas Corridor, and you signed and agreement with me Texas Dept of Transp. that I (Spain) will get so many billions from that. If you develop Interstate 35 too much, and it draws traffic away from my toll road, I'm gonna object, so I 35 needs potholes, it needs congestion, I want you to reduce the speed limit, because I have a monopoly you see, I have a concession here from the state that you've written and signed, so that I, as Spain, are assured of getting so many billions of dollars in future revenue.'

These contracts are written around the world, so that the states that wanna get out of them, end up having to buy not only the contract but all the future earnings that CINTRA was promised. So if the highway cost $10 billion to build, and CINTRA figured they were gonna get 500 billion in future revenues, to buy that contract back you'd pay 510 billion dollars, because Spain owns the future earnings. We've granted to a foreigner, a state monopoly guaranteed by Texas, or any other state that engages in these agreements, to have our public infrastructure controlled by them for their benefit and our detriment.

Now, shockingly, Robert Pastor, the Prof. at American University, who's been writing books for 10 years about, 'Toward a North American Community', said in an interview in Spanish, that I read in Spanish, Pastor said, 'The next 9-11 may be what it takes to get a N. American integration effort pushed forward.' Well I read that and I called Robert Pastor and said, 'Did you write that?' and he said, 'Yes'. I tape recorded the interview, I published it in the book and I published it in World Net Daily. So anyway I said 'What did you mean?' He said, 'Well, it's not moving fast enough, but the next 9-11 will force us all to get together on this new American integration agenda.'
I was frightened hearing that, because that's only one step away from saying 'let's create the crisis to make it happen'.


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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2008, 05:06:32 AM »

Hello Sister Barbara,

Sadly, people with common sense should expect many more 9-11's with many more casualties than the first one. The main causes will be open borders and refusal to deal with illegal immigration. A North American Union would not be a position of strength - just the opposite. It would MAGNIFY the failures of all three countries, and the price for those failures would be high. Terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals would love it because travel and movement of supplies would be easy.

A few big money folks would like the trade schemes, but average people would be big losers fairly quickly. The most basic economic principles eventually come to play. You can't keep consuming something unless you produce something to pay for it. This is dirt simple, yet they are removing our production of just about everything. It doesn't take a genius to see catastrophic failure in a relatively short period of time. Our economic strength was built on the exact opposite - WE WERE THE PRODUCERS!
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2008, 08:04:45 AM »

Amen, blackeyedpeas,

It's horrible to imagine what is happening right under our noses. Our country is being sold to the highest criminal bidder, to traitors, and big businesses. It is time the American people rose up and strongly protest what's going on. The problem is the people in power seem to be in league with the criminals and the traitors. They need to be put out of office. It's WE THE PEOPLE that are sovereign, they work for us and it's time we take our country back.

It seems evil is realizing it's fullest potential, embodied by the people we trusted, voted for and thought had the same Christian values as our ancestors. It truly is a brave new world and it will take all the prayer and trust in God we can muster to come against such a deadly and merciless foe - I believe paganism is so much a part of this world now and each day get's darker in the soul's of those that are involved in these ridiculous plans.

But they'll be surprised when they learn that CHRIST WILL PREVAIL!


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I was in Motebello, at another conference of the SPP, and I'm looking around and seeing that they built 2 fences around this Montebello compound, including one about 10 feet tall, all steel. I looked around the compound there was the Royal Canadian Mounted Police armed to the teeth, helicopters in the air. They'd spent millions and millions of dollars on security and yet they could build a fence around Montebello but they can't build one at the border. When we see in each of the 3 countries the agenda, and under NAFTA remember, Canadian water is defined as a 'good', as is Canadian timber, Canadian minerals and Canadian oil up in Alberta, and Canada cannot withhold a 'good' from the N. American market. So our multi-nat'l corporations want to get a hold of thoses resources cheaply. Why do you think the middle section of the Trans-Texas Corridor has pipelines? A pipeling will bring the oil from Canada, and the fresh water from Canada down into the American SW or into Mexico where it can be used to irrigate the crops that put our farmers out of work.

This is a mineral grab. You say, why would we care to merge with Mexico and Canada? We're so dominant. Well, we can get the minerals of Canada and fresh water, the slave labor from Mexico and their minerals, and all the millionaires and billionaires at the top get to have a party where they protect themselves from having to pay for anybody's poverty. They'll shift that benefit on the American middle class while it lasts.

People say, well surely this is a formula to destroy everything. Well No, the multi-national corporations think there'll be a big enough market at the top globally for them to stay wealthy and in power, as the whole world moves forward to look like Mexico does today - a few at the very top, including the Bill Gates', and everybody else at the bottom, struggling to keep houses, raise families, to pray to God the way they want to pray to God, and not to have to pledge allegiance to the N. American Union with the Amero in their pockets. Because no N. American Union will protect rights or respect the dignity of labor, or the human being - the worker, the way the US has.

I was interviewed by a 28 year old that came out of one of our leftist universities. He said, 'What would be so bad about a N. American Union?' And at first I thought he was joking, then I realized that he'd been so dummed down that he thought Int'l law and regulations would be better - that if we only were controlled by the Internationalists then we'd be really free. Well, I guess he hasn't studied the UN reports where the UN workers go into countries and rape and steal and pillage and deal guns. He's got in his mind that the UN is some standard of bureaucratic truth, fairness and justice, of course, it has no God in it, and no reconciliation of these crimes when they occur. No the UN, if it's going to have supremacy over the US, would be better off a parking lot. We need to get out of them, get out of the World Trade Org., and the SPP.

Let's put these all back onto foundations which are TRUE free trade. Yes, we can participate in global economy, but the global economy where even the Chinese get to raise families and be middle class. Get the Chinese out of those compounds where they're paid 50 cents an hour. If that's happening we don't want the goods. If they're gonna subsidize their currency they can keep everything, it's like if nobody bought at WalMart it wouldn't last 2 quarters before Wall St. would be screaming, crying and begging the Fed to do something about it.

If nobody bought from China, it wouldn't be 2 quarters before China was begging, and crying, and screaming about it. And the answer is we tell them to keep their money, but we're not gonna spend anymore when people are employed and made slaves. We're not gonna buy their goods and we're gonna fight against our own corporations that are trying to brain wash us that this is free trade. Yes, we can participate in a global economy, but let's do it as a strong nation. We've set a model, as Ronald Reagan said, it's been written before him - we're a shining city on a hill. Our founding fathers set the example for how we can preserve human freedoms and dignity, and be the strongest nation in the world. No other country's used this model and developed themselves. We'll trade with them - on a fair basis.

If our multi-nat'l corps. don't play fair, we don't need the multi-nat'l corps. We have to get back to some fundamental principal because life is not about how many billions you made at the end of it. The Bible teaches that clearly. The Bible also says that if we come to One World Gov't, it'll be ruled by the anti-Christ. Well, you could see it bacause this entire way of thinking is anti-God. It's another tower of Babel. You know, we're our own god, we'll build this huge thing to the sky, we'll be wealthy, we'll have all the trade we need, we don't need God. Well, I don't think that's the way it's gonna end....

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Formulas going this route have never worked in the history of the world. They didn't work when the Tower of Babel was first built, they didn't work for the Nazis, they didn't work for any people who, in the name of some lofty principle of World Gov't. tried to advance THEIR causes. We're always the ones who end up in the gulag.

The American people can resist this. It'll take knowlege, it'll take the attention to the details, and I'm confident that as this progresses, cause we're just in the first stages of it, it's been predicted that as the globalists come closer to finishing their goal they'll sprint naked to the finish line. Bush is getting more and more open - less trying to hide these things. At Montebello they issued a N. American Avian Flu and Pandemic Influenza Agreement which we've signed, our working groups have signed. Guess what? If there's an incident in N America of Avian Flu we go under UN control, that's what we agreed, the blue helmets take over. It's agreed. I didn't vote on it.

Remember I said earlier, the people want to rdicule this, the Michael Medveds the movie critic who's on radio as a talk show host, ridiculing this? He's saying it couldn't happen without you voting, well , I didn't vote to let 12 million illegal immigrants in the country, did you? I didn't vote that we would have no border, in fact we agreed that we would have a fence built on the border - it's the politicians who won't listen to us - and we've gotta put an end to that.
And the end is by saying, 'NO'.

It's not too late to start impeaching Bush, let's impeach him. So he runs our of time, fine. Start the procedures. If Hillary or Obama comes in, and she doesn't stop SPP, impeach her or him. Let's put them all on notice that if they don't sign as politicians declarations that they'll stop the SPP, they get voted out of office.

If the candidates refuse to talk about SPP, demand that they talk about it or we're gonna publicize it. They're all CFR members, and we should be saying, '...we're not gonna vote for any of these candidates.' There's a revolt going on right now within the repulican party, it's focusing on Giuliani, it's going to spread. Moral, conservative, Christians who have supported republican candidates for decades have been saying, 'No more!'

I was in a major fight with Jed Babbin, who's the editor of Human Events, the magazine and the internet site, he said that I'm just a conspiracy theorist for advancing this. I said, 'Jed, you're just a republican apologist'. He said, 'Well if you don't stop this a democrat is going to be elected', and I said what difference does it make, if you wanna threaten us again that we've all gotta vote republican, who does nothing conservative, moral Christians want. The republican party isn't being cleaned up - homosexuality, corruption. And people don't love the democrats, they're ready to get them out too. The only thing that has a lower approval rating than Bush is the democratic party and democratic congress.

The American people are truly sick of this. And as this builds, people have got to realise that it is still 'We the People', and it's still within our hands and God's to change this destiny. We must stop this, we can resist it.

Real ID - Well, on the back of the N. Carolina drivers' license, and I wrote about this in WND, there is right now a hologram 'Continent of N. America'. I called the division of Motor Vehicles in N. Carolina and said, 'What is this doing there?' So the spokesperson said, 'Soon that's going to be on every license plate in N. America'. I said 'Don't you mean N. Carolina?' She said, 'No, N. America.' Well, it was designed by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, which is a group that all the states belong to and the provinces of Canada, and Mexico is a memeber. And they met to create a N. American Security Emblem that would identify the license plate as issued in N. America, it's a N. American driver's license, already existing in N. Carolina. Why isn't that an emblem of N. Carolina in the hologram? Or the United States of America? Mo, the real ID we're gonna have now will have numbers. identification, biometrics. The biometrics will even register who you are, what your name is, scanned from a distance - all of these biometrics that they're gonna build into these cards will be done in the name of Prosperity and Security. They'll say, 'What do you want - another terrorist attack?' No, this is to control US, it's another loss of liberty that we're supposed to give up as we advance toward a regional gov't.

These control devices, just like the 'Emergency Presidential Directive' that gives the president complete control, even over other branches of gov't and recently passed by George Bush, are not signed without purpose. And for those who trust that our president certainly wouldn't do anything wrong with an emergency directive, I point out, 'Well, what if Obama or Hillary are our next leaders?' Our founding fathers advised correctly not to judge the grab of power by the personality of the person doing it. But the presidency is one of 3 equal branches, and they are all controlled in a limited constitutional form of government. When the president defines that the presidency's Supreme, and is going to exert all power over the other 2, we've lost our constitutional republic. We're going toward a dictatorship controlled by RFID chips, and ID cards in our pockets with biometrics that can do face scans.

Nothing's ever impressed me, as going through Aushwitz, the concentration camp in Poland. You know one of the things that impressed me most about it, was how many records the Germans kept. The names, the numbers, and a building full of records of people they'd killed. The concentration camps were all lined up in rigid order, it was order, order, order. And what they were doing was killing 6 million people, but they did it in a precise, bureaucratic fashion. And as i walked through Aushwitz, and I'd been there twice, I said this is the final result of a Godless bureaucracy.....

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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2008, 10:12:51 AM »

Hello Sister Barbara,

It's possible that we are seeing many things that will usher in the Tribulation Period. If these are End Days events leading up to the Tribulation Period, we won't be able to stop them. However, nothing changes how Christians are supposed to act or what Christians are to say. Evil is still evil and good is still good.

Someone told me that Christians might be resisting GOD if the fore-ordained end days of this Age of Grace are near or here. NO - we are NOT resisting GOD by continuing to stand up for right and against wrong! If the events are intended by GOD to happen, they will happen, regardless of what Christians do. As Christians, we just need to remember that our instructions from GOD and the HOLY BIBLE haven't changed, so we shouldn't be confused. Christians should just continue to march until JESUS takes us HOME. GOD'S Expectations of us haven't changed. GOD will NOT buy the excuse from us that we didn't do anything because we thought the event was caused or allowed by HIM! The devil will be turned loose on the earth, but our responsibilities as Christians remain the same. There have been conflicts between good and evil since BEFORE Adam, and these conflicts will continue until the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. Do Christians have to guess which side they should take? NO!  -  GOD expects us to side with Good and obey what HE'S Already told us to do. GOD will NEVER instruct us to do something evil or to call evil good. There are many things about the WAR between good and evil that we don't understand in this life. Those who like to mock GOD try to always hang the blame on GOD. They'll say something like, "GOD allowed it, so it's all HIS fault." NO - THIS WON'T FLY! This would be like saying that GOD allowed us to sin, so the sin is GOD'S fault. Thoughts like these are blasphemy and should never cross the minds of Christians. GOD created us and allows us to live with freedom of choice. GOD told man NOT TO SIN and stated the consequences. The BIGGEST sin and the ONLY UNFORGIVABLE sin is REJECTION OF JESUS CHRIST!

Brothers and Sisters, our HOPE is in the Rock-Solid Hands of ALMIGHTY GOD! The HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD lives in our hearts even in this short life. We might not know what will happen tonight or tomorrow, but GOD is with us and we know about Eternity in JESUS CHRIST! ALL of us will eventually experience fear, pain, illness, or death unless CHRIST takes us HOME first. We need to remember WHO we belong to when we experience hard times. WE BELONG TO CHRIST! We also need to remember that this world is NOT our home. OUR HOME IS IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS CHRIST!


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« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2008, 03:23:21 PM »

Again, and again I agree, Brother Tom,

You've made me think of John the Baptist. He came to tell the people to repent. He wouldn't 'bend'. As Jesus said, 'What did you go out in the desert to see? A reed swayed by the wind?' He stood by God's Word and proclaimed, even to Herod, what was wrong - it would cost him his life! But he clearly stated the Word and purpose of God. When he saw 'wrong' he declared what was right; he wasn't 'swayed' by political pressure or political correctness.

I've read that he was like a cedar, which when the winds blow, still does not bend, and if the wind blows hard enough it will be toppled but never bent. That's an example for us, I think, to always cling to the Word of God and not bend to the leanings of an immoral society. John was toppled, just as the cedar tree. But he had trusted in God, and declared TRUTH when he told Herod that he'd sinned by marrying his brother's wife.

We need to follow his example, as he followed Christ, and declare TRUTH. Even though people may not accept it at first, their conscience recognizes it as fact. That's how I came to accept the Lord - the TRUTH was decleared to me and I couldn't deny it! God's TRUTH changes lives. And even though things may not go the way WE want it to, as long as we submit to God and declare the TRUTH of His Messiah, we'll be in God's hands and He will accomplish His Will in our lives and the lives of others! We must declare TRUTH, it may not be easy but it is what our Messiah, Jesus Christ did. We're called to be his disciples, and do the same, for the love of lost souls!
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« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2008, 06:32:24 PM »

AMEN SISTER BARBARA!

What we all have left to do is pray for Strength and Courage to do GOD'S Will and yield ourselves for HIS Use, even if it means facing death. There is NO better way to die

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« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2008, 08:52:11 PM »

Amen, Brother Tom!!

It is the only way to go!! The Truth (Jesus) is so powerful!! It seems to even be affecting the subject of this thread!

Now, I just got this red-alert from Corsi:

North American Union: The Dream 'is Dead'
Father of alignment of US, Mexico and Canada says secret plan has been killed by left, right

By Jerome Corsi
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The Security and Prosperity of N. America is dead, says Robert A. Pastor, the American University Professor who for more than a decade has been a major proponent of building a N. American Community.

"The new president will probably discard the SPP," Pastor wrote in an article titled "The Future of N. America", published in the current July/August issue of the CFR magazine Foreign Affairs.

The SPP, which critics contend is a step toward a N. American Union, is an agreement to increase cooperation on security and economic issues, signed by the leaders of the US, Mexico and Canada in 2005. Despite having no authorization from Congress, the Bush administration launched extensive working-group activity to implement the agreement. The working-groups , ranging from e-commerce to aviation policy, to borders and immigration - have counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

" The April summit meeting was probably the last hurrah for the SPP," Pastor wrote, referring to the fourth annual SPP meeting held in April in New Orleans.

Pastor attributes the failure of SPP to its largely bureaucratic nature and the decision policy makers made to keep SPP largely below the radar of public opinion.

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"The strategy of acting on technical issues in an incremental bureaucratic way and keeping the issues away from the public view has generated more suspicions than accomplishments," Pastor admitted.

Pastor blames critics for the failure of the SPP, charging it has come under attack from both ends of the political spectrum.

"From the right have come attacks based on cultural anxieties of being overrun by Mexican immigrants and fears that cooperation with Canada and Mexico could lead down a slippery slope toward a N. American Union," he wrote. "From the left came attacks based on economic fears of jobs lost due to unfair trading practices."

"These two sets of fears came together in a perfect storm that was pushed forward by a surplus of hot air from talk-show hosts on radio and television," he continued. "In the face of this criticism, the Bush administration was silent, and the Democratic candidates competed for votes in the rust-belt states, where unions and many working people have come to see NAFTA and globalization much as commentator Lou Dobbs does."

Pastor denied he had ever urged the creation of a N. American Union.

"Dobbs, among others, viewed a report by a 2005 CFR task force, (which I chaired), 'Building a N. American Community', as the manifesto of a conspiracy to subvert American soverignty," he asserted. "Dobbs claimed that the CFR study proposed a N. American Union, although it did not."

Pastor has argued consistently for a "North American Community" as suggested by the title of his 2001 book entitled, "Toward a North American Community".

In a commentary authored for WND, Pastor stressed, "I do not propose a N. Amer. Union, I propose a N. American Community."

Pastor argued the two were different in that the North American Community would involve "three soverign governments that seek to strengthen bonds of cooperation."

Noting that the European Community was a transitional state between the European Common Market and the European Union, Pastor conceded to WND that, "I don't think a political union of N. America is an inherently bad idea, nor do I think it is a good idea for right now."

Despite the SPP setback, Pastor remains determined to advise a different approach to his continued goal of integrating the US, Mexico and Canada into a N. American Community.

The three heads of state must also commit to building a new consciousness, a new way of thinking about one's neighbors and about the continental agenda," he said. "Americans, Canadians and Mexicans can be nationals and North Americans at the same time."

To correct the defects of the SPP bureaucratic closed-door process, Pastor's CFR article recommended creating new North American institutions, inclucing a North American Investment Fund of at least $20 billion a year "to connect central and southern Mexico to the US with roads, ports and communitcations."

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, dropped his support for senate bill 3622 in the 109th Congress when WND reported the N. American Investment Fund proposed by the legislation would enact a key proposal Pastor has frequently made for his North American Community agenda.

In his CFR article, Pastor also called for the continuation of annual North American heads-of-state summits and the appointment in the next administration of a national adviser for N. American affairs, who would chair a cabinet level committee to formulate a comprehensive plan for N. America.

Pastor also encouraged creating a dozen university centers for North American studies "to educate a new generation of students to think North American."

WND reported on the fourth annual North American Model Parlaiment held this year in Montral, Canada, for 100 university students from Canada, the US and Mexico.

The North American Model Parlaiment is sponsered by the North American Forum on integration, on which Pastor serves as a board member.

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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2008, 10:56:22 AM »

So, to summarize the above article:

The SPP is dead. But Pastor still wants to implement the plan for a N. American Community, and to 're-educate' the ignorant people of the US, that just because these same steps were taken in the EU doesn't necessarily mean it will happen here - really, he wouldn't lie.  Roll Eyes

Even so, he doesn't consider a N. Amer. Union as a bad idea - just it  won't be right now. (Didn't he say that the next 9-11 would push this plan forward?)
Hmmmm.

According to Pastor, We the People, just need to learn a 'new way of thinking', and that new way is his way.

And, oh yeah, they're still going to continue building 'roads, ports and communications', which the Chinese have already poured billions of dollars into.

But it's dead.........really, he wouldn't lie - would he?

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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2008, 11:10:34 AM »

Hello Barbara,

I like your display of sarcasm here.  Wink It is quite fitting. As I commented on this in another thread, this plan is far from dead. It is just an action to remove it from the public eye. Congress has "Passed 94% of Bills without Debate or Roll Call Vote"

http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?topic=21110.msg252573#msg252573

This sort of action will continue in the Senate to get what they know would otherwise fail all the while trying to keep it out of the public. The democrats are going to get what they want even if it is by illegal means.


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