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Has anyone been watching 'God's News Behind the News' on TBN? Joe Van Koevering has been showing some really interesting exerpts of a conference they just held at his church in Florida. I'd like to quote some of the highlights if I can. It's in 3 parts that begin with some historical background and ends with some really incredible info about the super highway being built in the Midwest that leads from Mexico to the US and Canada. This may be long but please stick with it as there is some really good info:

Part I

"Several weeks ago I was sitting down with some of my friends, and telling them all of the research I'd been doing on how America's about to change, and out of this man's mouth who I was sitting with and is not a minister or anything but a member of this church, he says a man walked in my store just today and told me about the new currency - the Amero - that's coming for America, and I took the opportunity to tell him about what's going on - that many people are ignorant of, and unaware of - That is Canada, America (USA) and Mexico soon to become a region that could be called 'Canamerico' - the coming N. American Union.

Many authors and researchers over the years, many great men have documented at Christian Conferences or in books that they've written - the unseen hand of history. When I say that I'm talking about elite groups who desire a One World Gov't., a global society, a New World Order. Of course the list has many characters and many names, some of which you're familiar with already like:

The Untied Nations
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Trilateral Commission
The Bilderberg Group
The World Bankers (the Rothchilds & Rockefellers)
The Club of Rome
The Illuminati

Now somebody said 'Joe, you're not one of those conspiracy guys are ya?' Let me remind you that the words 'conspired', and 'conspirators', and 'conspiracy' all appear no less than 30 times in our Bible. So I don't have to be a conspiracy nut, all I have to do is believe the Bible.

Here's what I know for sure

1- Satan is a deceiver and he'd gonna masquerade his deception with light (Isaiah 14) - 2 Corinthians 11:14 says Satan that says '...Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light...'

So let's not say we're conspiracy theorists, let's just say we believe the Bible

2 - Satan will successfully bring his 'Man of Sin' into the earth (The AntiChrist) many verses prove that (Daniel) (2 Thess. 2:3-4)

3- The Anti-Christ will seek to bring the world together politically, religiously and economically. (Revelation 13)

Now before I talk about America, I must tell you what happened in Europe. For you see there's a very important man, Jean Monnet, a Frenchman, widely regarded as the Father of the modern day European Union. You may not know this but the European Union that exists today really began with a trade agreement between 2 European nations, called the European Coal and Steel Communtiy, or the ECSC. It was an experimental 6 nation international organization and the first to be based on supranational principles and served as the foundation for the modern day European Union.
 
This beginning is called 'Incrementalism', in other words one act will lead to another, which will lead to another, and so on. The eventual expected end - see decisions, no matter how small, will lead to additional decisions, and those additional decisions will eventually  lead you to a determined end.

Time Magazine did an article on Jean Monnet stating, "The Schuman Declaration on May 9, 1950, (later celebrated as Europe Day,) based on the work of Jean Monnet, laid out a plan foa a European Community to pool the coal and steel of its members in a common market. He proposed that 'Franco-German production of coal and steel as whole be placed under a common High Authority, within the framework of an organization open to the participation of the other countries of Europe."

Such an act was intended to help economic growth and cement peace between France and Germany, who had previously been long time enemies. Coal and steel were particularly symbolic as they were the resources necessary to wage war. It would also be a first step to a "European federation".

The European Union succeeded because it's supporters took the incremental approach. While advancing step by step to a United Europe they studiously avoided suggesting that their goal was to create a super government. They denied it when they were asked. What began as a coal and steel agreement advanced to a Common Market and ended as a regional government. Exactly as Jean Monnet had always wanted as he expressed in the closing words of his memoirs. He said,
"The sovereign nations of the past could no longer solve the problems of the present. They cannot ensure their own own progress or control their own future. And the Communtiy itself is only a stage on the way to the organized world of tomorrow."

Incrementalism - it's what led the nations of Europe to unite.

There's an interesting book called 'The Great Deception' by Christopher Booker and Richard North. In this book, perhaps the most comprehensive examination of the emergence of the EU yet written, the authors conclude:
"Even though he had long since been honored as the 'Father of Eiurope', Jean Monnet had always preferred to work behind the scenes, away from the limelight. He knew that only by operating in the shadows, behind a cloak of obscurity, could he one day realize his dream. What he pulled off...was to amount to a slow-motion coup d'etat - the most spectacular coup d'etat in history."

What began as a trade agreement and then took a series of incremental steps, eventually moved to a European Commmon Market and finally into a European Regional Government. Once Europe started taking steps toward economic unity, political untiy followed.

On Jan. 1, 2002 the Euro was introduced and the traditional National Currencies of the participating EU Countries were fazed out.

Will the same be said of the US a few years from now?

Why do I make such a bold question? Because if you do not know it let me break the news, there are movements afoot in Mexico, in Canada and in the US similar to those in Europe that led to the formation of the EU. And if left unchecked will erode US sovereignty and lead to a N. American Union. There are flags being designed to combine the 3 flags of those nations and more and more you'll begin to see these images in order to condition us.

Another interesting book written by a man that won the 2002 Nobel Prize for Economics called 'Making Globalization Work' by Joseph Stiglitz. It fully documents how previous steps toward globalization have fallen short of their intended goal and and presents key elements of needed refinement.

He says, 'If any trade agreement were to be a success it should have been the one among Mexico, the US and Canada. Enacted in 1994, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) created what was at the time the largest free trade area in the world, with 375 million people and the GDP of nearly $9 trillion."
"...Not only did NAFTA not lead to robust growth; it can even be argued that in some ways it contributed to Mexico's poverty."
"Whle developing countries may suffer from trade liberalization, they are not always in a position to reap its benefits through increased exports. There are several reasons for this: One already noted is that they often lack the infrastructure (ports and roads) needed to move their products."

Stiglitz solution:

"The EU recognized the wisdom of this basic approach when in 2001 it unilaterally opened up its markets to the poorest countries of the world, taking away (almost) all tarrifs and trade restrictions without demanding political of economic concessions, The rationale was the European consumers would benefit from lower prices and more product diversity, while it would cost European producers a negligible amount, it could be of enormous benefit to the poorest countries, and it was a strong demonstration of goodwill."

Stiglitz concludes "The global financial system is not working well, and it is especaially not working for the developing counties. money is flowing uphill, from the poor to the rich. The richest country in the world, the US, seemingly cannot live within its means borrowing $2 billion a day from poorer countries."

He goes on, "The problems of the global financial system are systematic and have much to do with the global reserve system. The world is already moving out of the dollar system, but that doesn't mean that it is moving toward a better system - and, sadly, little thought has been given to where it is going or how it could should evolve. This single initiative could do more to make globalization work than any other. It would not eliminate the problems faced by developing countries, but it would make things better, It would enhance global stability and blobal equity. It is not a new idea, but it is an idea perhaps whose time has come!"

In other words, if we moved away from dollars and moved toward a global reserve system this one step could do more to making globalization work than any other.

On Feb. 16, 2001, Pres. Bush met with Vicente Fox in his home in Mexico. This was Pres. Bush's very first official visit with a foreign leader.



 
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 03:04:23 PM »

Part II

During the joint press conferece that followed their meeting both presidents spoke in general terms about a prosperity partnership between Mexico, the US and Canada. President Fox commented that 'we have identified a renewed will for cooperation to design together with our Canadian partners, a region guided by the search for shared prosperity.'

President Bush said, 'I came here today to seek President Fox's views on how we can go about building on our partnership".

What began in 2001 as 'cooperation' and 'partnership' is now the formation of a North American community and trade zone.

On March 23, 2005 the 3 N. American leaders agreed to start taking steps toward their full participation in the 'Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP)."

With this announcement the US, Mexico and Canada entered into a new era, even if the public of the three countries did not fully comprehend the importance of the declaration.

A working paper, created by the Council on Foreign Relations entitled "Creating a North American Commnity" (available on the internet) says:

When the leaders of Canada, Mexico and the US meet in Texas on March 23, they'll be representing countries whose futres are shared as never before
The ever-deepening integration of N. America promises enormous benefits for its citizens. These benefits, however, are neither inevitable nor irreversible. The process of change must be properly managed."
"To build on the advances of the past decade and to craft an agenda for the future, we propose the creation, by 2010 of a communtiy to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity for all North Americans. To that end, we propose a community based on the premise that each member benefits from its neighbor's success and is diminished by its problems. The boundaries of all community would be fefined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter. Within this, the movement of people and products would be legal, orderly and safe. the overarching goal is to guarantee a free, safe, just and prosperous N. America."

"We focus our recommendations on the cration of a single economic space that expands the economic opportunities for all people in the region, and the establishment of a security zone that protects the region from external threats while facilitating the legitimate passage of goods, people, and capital." (That is products, people and money.)
"The governments of Canada, Mexico and the US should commit themselves to the long term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments physical control of traffic, travel, and trade within N. America."

The formation of the SPP was finalized on March 23rd. According to articles on the White House Website (available to all), the vision is to have a border strategy. Now isn't that working good? You know why it's not working? Because they don't want it to. If we had a secure border that worked this plan wouldn't go into effect. So we have this new plan to help us secure the border problem that we don't know how to fix, but if we wanted to it could be fixed in about 45 days.

They propose a "single ntegrated North American trusted traveler program..." a new card or some kind of traveler protection program that allows you to go into Canada or Mexico whenever you want very easily, and vice-versa.

The SPP was never submitted to Congress for debate and decision. There was no law signed by the president, and no treaty ratified by the senate.

In many respects this growing partnership is traveling at warp speed yet remains under the radar of the media, the national press and the American public. You can go on the website and check it out yourself.

World Net Daily
Feb. 7, 2008

North America confab' undermines' democracy

A closed door meeting of high level government and business leaders that discussed the merger of North America was designed to subvert the democrativ process, charged an attendee of the confab in Banff, Canada.

Mel Hertig a noted Canadian author and publisher provided World Net Daily an agenda and attendee list of the N. America forum at the Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel. Hertig said "the secret meeting was designed to undermine the democratic process. What is sinister about this meeting is that it involved high level government officials. Some of the top business leaders of the 3 countries The foreman of the meeting intentionally did not inform the press  of the 3 countries. It was clear that the intention was to keep this important meeting about integrating the 3 countries out of the public eye
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Attending the Banff meeting was Robert Pastor...who was involved from the very outset, way back in the beginning. He was involved with the working paper from the CFR previously mentioned. He is the director of the Center for N. American Studies at American Univ. Pastor is widely known for his extensive writings arguing for the creation of a N. American Union, a new super regional mass N. American government based on the model of the EU, with the intent of subrogating the sovereignty of the US.

Pastor was a co-chair on the Council of Foreign Relations Task Force - Building a N. American Community (referred to previously). About 1/3 of the listed members of the CFR task force attended this Banff conference. One prominent participant in both was Carla A. Hills who served as US trade representative from 1989-1993 and was the primary US negotiator for NAFTA. I think something's going on.

Like Jean Monnet, America has it's own such organizer, intellectual, and political operative (with his own 'vision for the future') who has taken it upon himself to foster a North American community: Robert Pastor.

He's written a book called "Toward a North American Community" (available on the internet).

Robert Pastor has a long and established career as a left wing policy advisor. In what appears to be his first job after getting his Ph. D. from Harvard, Pastor served as the executive director of the Linowitz Commission. Formally named the Rockefeller Foundation's Commission on US-Latin America Relations, the commission for its unofficial name from it's chaiman, Sol Linowitz, who was registered foreign agent of the communist regime of Salvadore Allendale in Chile. Today, the commission is primarily remembered for recommending that the US return the Panama Canal to Panama. Prior to joining the Linowitz Commission, Pastor contributed to a report entitled 'The Southern Connection', issued by the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS). The report foreshadowed the Linowitz Commisions argument the US should be more accepting of the leftist revolutionary governments then forming in Latin American. Author David Horowitz, of Discover the Network.org called this organization, the IPS, "America's oldest left wing think tank that has long supported communist and anti-American causes around the world." By it's own admission the IPS admits it is an avowedly radical organization, created to influence public policy in a lefward direction.

In Pastor's book he applauds Mexico's Vicente Fox and his willingness to join together with the US and Canada. Fox has, Pastor says, studies the EU experience in integrating poor countries on its periphery and he boldly proposed replacing the free trade area (US, Canada and Mexico) witha a free trade market. Pastor says his book is to take the skeleton of Fox's vision and graft a body onto it.

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Cont'd.

Part III

Pastor's book also deals with the need for a  unified currency. After describing the chanllenges with the Federal Reserve system and the 'dollarization" instability, Pator propses: 'An alternative would be to establish a new currency. That, of course is the point of the Euro, and that is the essence of a proposal developed by Grubel in a paper for the Simon Fraser Institute in Vancouver. He makes the case for a North American Monetary Union with a central bank and a common currency(that is with Mexico and Canada), which he dubs the "Amero."

Pastor recognizes that 'it will be very hard for the Americans to give up the dollar even for an instrument that is its equivalent in everything but name."

But he concludes: "In the long term, the Amero is in the best interests of all three countries."

The downcline of the dollar verses the Euro has got to happen.According to Herbert G. Grubel, in a 1999 Fraser Institute paper called 'The Case for the Amero":

"The plan for a North American Monetary Union presented in this study is designed to include Canada, The US, and Mexico. Under the proposed plan, bank notes and coins of the currency (tentatively called the 'amero') will have 'amero' symbols on one side and national emblems on the other to preserve important symbols of national identity. The conversion of existing currencies into the amero will take place at rates that leave unchanged each country's real income, wealth, and international competativeness at the time of conversion."

He goes on to say, "Implicit in this development is a threat to the reputation of the dollar as a stable currency. I am convinced that for the US the benefits outweigh the costs and risks from the creation of a North American Monetary Union, as they did when the country joined other international organizations in the past. I hope that this judgment will be shared by those in the position to move the initiative forward."

So he says as long as the dollar stays stable this is never going to happen. There's alot of elite thinkers behind alot of closed doors that think the initiative ought to go forward as well.

Now do you realize there is a NAFTA Super Highway already being built? You can go to the official NASCO website where this can all be found. NASCO means the North America Super Corridor Coalition. There they show how cheap goods from China and other parts of the Asian world will come into ports down in Mexico, and these Super Corridors are designed to take these goods and bring them right to the heart of America, namely Kansas City, and up into the various cities like Winnepeg and Ontario, Montreal and Toronto.

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Kansas City SmartPort Inc., is an 'investor based organization supported by the public and private sector' to create the key hub on the NAFTA Super Highway...A brochure on the SmartPort website describes the plan in glowing terms. 'For those who live in Kansas City, the idea of receiving containers nonstop from the Far East by way of Mexico may sound unlikely, but later that seemingly far fetched notion will become a reality.l"

One of the quotes previously stated said NAFTA didn't work because they didn't have Ports and Roads, or infrastructure. So guess what? We're gonna build them.

I don't know if you've ever been to Kansas City, but it's not on a big body of water. There's a river there. But Kansas City is about to become a SmartPort. In the heart of our homeland, Kansas City is about to become a port, a SmartPort. You say how are they gonna do that? The public and private sector investors are supporting the building of this key hub on the NAFTA Super Highway.

There are literally hundreds of private investors oveseas investing billions of dollars, acquiring the land, sometimes through spurious means, to build this Super Highway. In fact, not only are they acquiring the land, you can find a computer rendering of what it's supposed to look like on the 'Trans Texas Corridor' website, which calls for separate lanes for cars and trucks; rail with seperate lines for passenger, highspeed freight, and commuter traffic; and a utility zone. This is being done right now.

There's a book called 'The Late Great USA (the coming merger with Mexico and Canada)' written by Jerome Corsi.  He says, "Today we face the possibility that the USA may not long endure. Our national sovereignty is being compromised in favor of an emerging regional government, designed by the elites for the elites..."
"The North American Union would not just be the end of America as we know it, but the beginning of an EU-like nightmare - a bureaucratic coup d'etat foisted upon millions of American citizens without their knowledge or consent."

I found this to be a very interesting report which included film from news stories that most of us haven't seen, including CNBC and CNN with Lou Dobbs which reported that the Canadians are upset about this business but the Americans are pretty much unaware of what's happening. The Amero and the end of the US as we know it. If you can catch the show there's alot more info and it's all happening as we speak.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 08:08:55 PM »

THANKS SISTER BARBARA!

This is a fascinating article, and I can guarantee all readers that this has nothing to do with any wild conspiracy theory. One Google search will yield more hard facts than anyone could study in a year. By hard facts, I'm talking about evidence quality facts that would be accepted in a court of law. We would be talking about dates, times, locations, leaders, agendas, money trails, and just about anything you can dream of. This is and has been happening right under our noses for a long time. They even admit it, but they call it different names to make it sound better. Evidence indicates a FORCED INTEGRATION over and above the wills of the people in all three countries. This is not a joking matter, AND it is happening RIGHT NOW! It doesn't matter what the people of the three countries want. In fact, they don't plan to consult the people or ask the people to vote on or approve these ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS! In fact, the power brokers and big money folks are going to do this OVER THE OBJECTION OF THE PEOPLE!
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 11:59:15 AM »

Hello Barbera,

I thank you also for posting this as I don't watch TBN but I have heard and read a lot about this unconstitutional movement by our government. Everything they said on TBN about this is in fact happening plus a whole lot more. There is a lot more additional information posted here on this forum:

http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?topic=11865.0

This is not just another conspiracy nut case job. It is well documented throughout the internet and much of that proof is from government documents.

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 10:15:15 PM »

Sister Barbara and Pastor Roger,

I'm almost sure I first read something about this issue from a Christian news source. It peaked my interest because it is a possible sign of the End Days of this Age of Grace. So, I decided to research it. That's been some time ago now, and I have a huge amount of material that's related to the Coming North American Union.

I was shocked with the amount of information, and many of the research sites were official government sites. I consider the proof of what's happening to be overwhelming and unquestioned. We will often even hear the selected "TERMS" that attempt to make things sound better from a President and other high-ranking officials of all three countries. In other words, they are NOT denying what is being attempted. They are simply trying to repackage it with other terms and make it sound different than what it actually is.

IT IS WHAT IT IS - THE COMING NORTH AMERICAN UNION. It really doesn't make any difference what terms they use or how they attempt to describe benefits. It's a sellout of sovereignty for three countries, and the leaders of those three countries DO NOT have the authority or permission of the people to do WHAT IS being done. What we are being told by these leaders is an INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE.

Anyone can do a Google search for many terms used - including the real one - "NORTH AMERICAN UNION" and get tons of information. It is happening and IT IS A CRIME!
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 11:34:10 PM »

In the last few days it has come out into the open that there is currently the same kind of movement in both South America, in Africa, North Asia. There has been a Central Asian Union forming now since 2007.

I haven't seen the information myself but from what I have been told is that there is currently 7 of these types of unions in the works that leave only three areas out of the matrix. Authority to do this from the people or not it does look like things will be coming together as the Bible says they will and it will be coming soon. There is after all a much higher authority than any people that tells us that these things will come to pass.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 12:10:53 AM »

In the last few days it has come out into the open that there is currently the same kind of movement in both South America, in Africa, North Asia. There has been a Central Asian Union forming now since 2007.

I haven't seen the information myself but from what I have been told is that there is currently 7 of these types of unions in the works that leave only three areas out of the matrix. Authority to do this from the people or not it does look like things will be coming together as the Bible says they will and it will be coming soon. There is after all a much higher authority than any people that tells us that these things will come to pass.



AMEN PASTOR ROGER!

Brother, I've thought many times that we might be getting ready to see Bible Prophecy unfold. If so, I'm ready, and I think that many Christians are looking forward to this. We're just passing through. As Christians, our Citizenship is in Heaven. In many ways, I hope that the time IS drawing near. Our hopes and real riches are in CHRIST - NOT IN THIS EVIL AND DYING WORLD! So, there should be an ultimate priority in our prayers - GOD'S WILL BE DONE - use us LORD for YOUR WILL AND PURPOSE!

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So, there should be an ultimate priority in our prayers - GOD'S WILL BE DONE - use us LORD for YOUR WILL AND PURPOSE!

AMEN!

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 01:19:51 AM »

I found some more information on these unions.

Existing Unions

1  European Union
2 African Union
3 Union of South American Nations
4 Pacific Union
5 Caribbean Community
6 Central Asian Union
7 Asian Union

Currently Forming Unions

8 North American Union (Currently called NAFTA)
9 Mediterranean Union
10 South Asian Union
11 East Asian Union (Proposed) (Currently it is thought that this one may be absorbed
                                                   by one of the other existing unions.)



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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 04:42:41 PM »

Wow Pastor Roger and blackeyedpeas!

I'm so glad that more and more people know about this. But I have to say, the more I talk with people the more I see how completely unaware most Americans are. The part that bothers me most is the 'coup d'etat' that is happening beneath our very noses and not just most secular people but most Christians are not aware. It would probably be good for more of our pastors to be informing us of these things as I also believe as you do blackeyedpeas, it shows us how close we're coming to the return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! I also agree it will happen according to God's plan, and His Word will not come back to Him void!!
I just figure we're 'watchmen on the wall' and must tell each other how close the time is for the Lord's return.

I appreciate the link you supplied Pastor Roger. I plan on reading it right away. The other unions are very interesting. Ten regions, I think, is very Biblical!
I also never watched TBN until I lost Sky Angel. TBN picked up some of their programs, like this one I just quoted, so those are the ones we watch. Also never watch CNN but got some interesting quotes from their coverage of this ongoing occurance.

I've got quotes from a CNBC interview with Steve Previs, V.P at Jefferies Int'l Ltd., from Nov. 27, 2006:

Previs - We're coming into a cyclical bottom for gold and the rise is going into Dec. and January so that might be the reverse of the dollar fall. But apart from that I think one thing people who are dollar based need to focus on is the AMERO - that's the one thing that nobody's talking about but I think it's gonna have a big impact on everybody's life in Canada, the US and Mexico. If you google it you'll find out all about it.

Interviewer - Well - you could tell us a little more about it right now...

Previs - Well, the Amero is the proposed new currency for the North American Community which is being developed right now between Canada, the US and Mexico to make a borderless community that's like the EU, and the Canadian dollar, the US dollar and the Mexican peso will be replaced by the Amero.

Interviewer - Would you think that would make any leway?

Previs - Uh, you may wanna visit a couple of websites and see how far along it is - the Canadians are pretty upset about it, whereas the Americans, apart from the Texans who are the only people who know anything about it, the rest of the public's really um, sort of with their head in the sand on this one.

Interviewer - OK, interesting...now we've already got NAFTA, the free trade zone, is that doing enough?

Previs - Well, uh, I'll tell you what. It's really created alot of illegal immigrants coming accross the border (laugh) um, I don't know, you get the pros and cons on this - that NAFTA for some people is a very good thing and for other people it's been a disaster. Uh, I think this is one way the politicians are trying to work themselves out of it - what potentially could be a disastrous situation going forward.


This is from CNN with Lou Dobbs - not sure of the date:

Dobbs - The Bush Administration's open border policy and it's decision to ignore the enforcement of this country's immigration laws is part of a larger agenda. President Bush signed a formal agreement that will end the US as we know it - and he took the step without approval from either the US Congress or the people of the US. Bill Tucker reports...

Tucker - The Security and Prosperity Partnership of N. America sounds benign - hardly like a policy that critics call NAFTA on steroids - it's a deal that few have even heard of...

Marcy Kaptur/Ohio - It's being done again by very few people at the very top on behalf of the investment class. But the working class of people, the political officials accross our country from communities, from cities and so forth, they don't know anything about this.

Tucker - Yet it was agreed to by Mexico's Pres. Vincente Fox, Canada's Prime Minister Martin and President Bush in 2005. The Administration officials countered their critics by saying everything about SPP is on the White House website. They say it's an outline of priorities between the 3 countries. Still - some wonder why there haven't been public discussions about the goals being persued. Other parts of the agreement mention border security as an issue, which include all of N. America. In fact, the name of the agreement is not Security and Prosperity of the US but of N. America.

Peter Morici - When we elect officials we expect them to act on our behalf. When they get involved in cooperative frameworks with other countries for joint regulation of fisheries, or rail transportation, or the skies, we're basically sharing our soverignty with that gov't. and outsourcing some of what we give our own elected officials.

Tucker - As disturbing as some find SPP, there is legislation in the House introduced by Florida's Catherine Harris that closely resembles the goals of the Partnership. Included in that bill is a section that's called 'The Securing of Mexico's Southern Border' by the US and Canada. Lou, that's not the border with the US, that's the border they share with Belize and Guatemala.

Dobbs - The idea the White House would respond that this is on their website - uh, this involves intricate workings amongst the Commerce Dept. of this country, as well as Canada's and Mexico's, of course. A regional prosperity and security program, uh, this is absolute ignorance. And as we watch this thing progress, these working groups are continuing, they're intensifying, what in the world are these people thinking of?

Tucker - Well they say, 'Look, these are a declaration and an outline of our priorities. And when I called up today, they said I was the first phonecall they'd received, literally since the deal was first signed - so people are not paying attention and they're letting them, in fact, get away with this.

Dobbs - Yeah. I was asked the other day about whether or not the American people had the "stuff" to stand up and stop this nonsense. this direction from a goup of elites in absolute contervention of our law, of our constitution, uh, every national value - and I hope, I pray that I was right when I said 'Yes'. This is beyond belief...


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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 05:24:24 PM »

Woe, Pator Roger!

What you wrote is head and shoulders above anything I wrote! Amazing information! And still we're all being kept in the dark, so to speak, as they move ahead with their plans. You've been posting this info since 2006 and they keep moving ahead. I know we need to keep telling everyone, whether they believe it or not, about what's going on. I usually get this 'yeah, right' kinda look when I tell someone. I guess they'll know sooner or later.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2008, 11:00:38 PM »

There are so many different messed up conspiracies going around that when something like this happens it is hard to believe especially when it goes against our own laws. It is easy to understand why others dismiss it as another conspiracy theory. That and many people don't want to come out of their own protected little world to actually see what is going on around them until it actually comes right up and smacks them between the eyes.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 12:14:39 AM »

I knew that fence was never going to get built and now I know why!
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 12:48:15 AM »

I knew that fence was never going to get built and now I know why!

Hello GrammyLuv,

The people have already spoken on this issue. President Bush and others said that heard us loud and clear, so we got some lip service for a little bit. GROSS dereliction of duty is involved - not to mention the violation of many criminal statutes. I'M COMPLETELY SERIOUS WHEN I SAY THAT MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME IN PRISON, AND THAT INCLUDES THE PRESIDENT!
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