Once Saved Always Saved???

[Jemidon2004]

LOL :BBUSTEDD!! ;I know better, it takes two i'm head of house, but i still coook and clean lol.. If you follow those rules...ur already yin trouble lol

[Brother Jerry]

LOL

[Allinall]

LOL :BBUSTEDD!! ;I know better, it takes two i'm head of house, but i still coook and clean lol.. If you follow those rules...ur already yin trouble lol

You learn quick!    Yah.  I do the cook and clean thing.  In all honesty, God does tell us to love and serve...

[Shammu]

If you follow those rules...ur already yin trouble lol

[saved1977]

No once saved always saved isn't true.  One who continues in his sin without repentance isn't, saved.  This teaching is a dangerous distortion, of Christianity.
[/qu[/color]AMEN TO THAT-FREEINDEED

[saved1977]

Different strokes for different folks but I don't believe in it-freeindeed

[Soldier4Christ]

2Ti 1:12  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.


Rom 8:35  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Rom 8:38  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[HisDaughter]

My mother and have gone round and round on this subject.

I am of the opinion that if you continue in your sin that you probably weren't really saved in the first place.  HOWEVER.... if you truely repented and accepted Christ but then back-slid into your old ways, ie addiction; you are still saved.  Since you are still saved your "high" will never be the same because the Holy Spirit is in you.  Because of that you will always feel tremdous guilt and the Lord tugging on you to come back to Him.  If you weren't saved you wouldn't feel that.
Since in your heart and mind you believe Jesus is who he said he was; John 3:16 (and the Lord knows your heart); you have been saved.  You won't have the wonderful life here on earth of walking with Jesus daily, or the glorious rewards in heaven that you may have had if you had not back-slid, but you will still go to heaven.

[ravenloche]

No once saved always saved isn't true.  One who continues in his sin without repentance isn't, saved.  This teaching is a dangerous distortion, of Christianity.
[/qu[/color]AMEN TO THAT-FREEINDEED

Don't you think that Paul said it well when he said let us lay aside the the doctrines of baptism ... and let us press on to the meat of the word.

Do I believe osas no! however if a person remains in the spirit, and walks with Jesus, repenting of sins when commited, then that person is going to see Jesus. When we truely get saved, we will remain saved, because we will
immediately begin to hate sin, thus doing our personal best to avoid, and reject all aspects in our lives.
Jesus will never let go of our hand, but we can let go of his (its called free will).

The thing about the test that God give us is that we never fail them! We just have to keep taking them over until we get them right!

respectfully yours in Yeshua

ravenloche

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

I've been involved in this debate many times. This time I'm simply going to say that I give thanks that I'm truly SAVED! I don't deserve it and I won't ever deserve it. I love JESUS CHRIST who paid the full and perfect price. I have 100 percent assurance of Salvation and I already have Eternal Life ONLY because GOD promised this, not because of anything I've done or anything I deserve. I deserve nothing but punishment for my sins, but JESUS CHRIST took my punishment in HIS own precious Body, and HIS Blood has washed my sins away.

Brothers and Sisters, I do firmly believe that GOD wants us to know that we have 100% Assurance of Salvation. All REAL Christians have already been translated into the BODY OF CHRIST and their hearts are sealed with the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. There is no way that we can be strong in CHRIST unless we at least KNOW that we're Saved. All of the thanks and Glory goes to GOD - not man and certainly not ourselves. My LORD and SAVIOUR is Perfect, Holy, and Righteous - AND HE is my Salvation. I give thanks, praise, and worship to HIM every day. HE set me free from the Curse of sin and death. HE broke the chains and shackles that were holding me in the darkness and I love the LIGHT!

Love In Christ,
Tom

Thanks be unto God for His unspeakable GIFT, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour Forever!

[Eva]

2Ti 1:12  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.


Rom 8:35  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Rom 8:38  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

AMEN to this!!!  But, I also believe that our "fruit" is evidence of our "relationship" with Christ.

Love in Christ, Eva

[Soldier4Christ]

AMEN to this!!!  But, I also believe that our "fruit" is evidence of our "relationship" with Christ.

Love in Christ, Eva

Amen, sister, that is so true. The fruit of the spirit that is in us is that which shows in "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance.

[Soldier4Christ]

Secure On The Rock

One stormy night a ship was wrecked by crashing on the rocks off the coast of Cornwall, England. All hands perished but one lone Irish lad, who was hurled by the waves upon the jagged slopes of a great towering ledge, where he managed to find a place of refuge. In the morning, watchers on the beach spied him through their glasses, and a boat was launched and rowed to where he clung. Almost dead from the cold and exposure, he was tenderly lifted into the boat and brought ashore.

After he got warm and felt better he was asked, "Lad, didn't ye tremble out there on the rock in all that storm?" He replied brightly in his Irish way, "Trimble? Sure and I trimbled. But do you know, the rock never trimbled wanct all night." If you have trusted Christ, you are on the Rock. While you may tremble, that does not invalidate God's salvation. The Rock remains firm and secure. Look away from self altogether and rely solely upon the Word of God.

[nChrist]

Secure On The Rock

One stormy night a ship was wrecked by crashing on the rocks off the coast of Cornwall, England. All hands perished but one lone Irish lad, who was hurled by the waves upon the jagged slopes of a great towering ledge, where he managed to find a place of refuge. In the morning, watchers on the beach spied him through their glasses, and a boat was launched and rowed to where he clung. Almost dead from the cold and exposure, he was tenderly lifted into the boat and brought ashore.

After he got warm and felt better he was asked, "Lad, didn't ye tremble out there on the rock in all that storm?" He replied brightly in his Irish way, "Trimble? Sure and I trimbled. But do you know, the rock never trimbled wanct all night." If you have trusted Christ, you are on the Rock. While you may tremble, that does not invalidate God's salvation. The Rock remains firm and secure. Look away from self altogether and rely solely upon the Word of God.

AMEN PASTOR ROGER!

This is beautiful and wonderful to think about on a regular basis. We learn about HIS Strength during our times of weakness and trial. We stumble and fail, but we know that HE Never fails.

Deuteronomy 32:3-4 NASB
"For I proclaim the name of the LORD; Ascribe greatness to our God! "The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.

Psalms 18:30-31 NASB
As for God, His way is blameless; The word of the LORD is tried; He is a shield to all who take refuge in Him. For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,

Psalms 19:14 NASB
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.

I give thanks that our faith and trust is in "The ROCK of Ages", ONE who never fails.

Love In Christ,
Tom

 

[dan p]

Here is my short answer and if I have time I will answer Heb 6. Firist , the word in Greek is SOZO, IT IS IN THE PERFECT TENSE in Greek grammer. this verb has yo demensions to it , it is a combination of past action WITH a CONTINIUN PRESENT. This means when you were in the past , you are always in the present, Ihope I did't make it clear as mud, because we are always in the    present we are always saved. By the way it is in the indictative mood, whisch means THIS IS A FACT and you better believe it, but also in the passive voice, which means the HOLY SPIRIT  did a work in you and you could not do it. The short answer in Heb 6:4 you can't put Christ back on the cross and crucify Christ again , if you read v1 it sound like hereasy to say forsake the teaching of Christ ,v2 teaching of baptisms because those who baptized can't answer these verses.