Once Saved Always Saved???

[Soldier4Christ]

I used to think the same thing as I can't swim. You never know where God's calling may lead us.

[Jemidon2004]

meh I dunwanna be on a bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboat!!!! mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. j/k lol...i'll be in the sky

[Soldier4Christ]

I look forward to being in the sky also .....

[Allinall]

I know all the specifics of the doctrine of Eternal Security.

I was saved in a Free Will  Baptist Church On June 10 1990.

Since that day, I have read the Bible, 23 times, from Genesis
to Revelation. so I am quite familiar with the Scriptures.

I graduated in the top 5 students with a 4.0 garde average from a
 Faith based Bible college in Arkansas in 2000.

I have studied the doctrine of eternal security extensivelly,
and have found that there are too many faults in it, to justify it's credibility.

Main point being, all of Gods word is NOT used as an accurate and acceptable
foundational basis for it's authencity.

Let him who thinks he is secure be careful because he is capable of failing.

Only our past sisn have been forgiven, no future sin can be forgiven until that sin
has been confessed, common sense tells us that.

No person can lose their salvation, I agree 100% with that fact

BUT anyone can forfeit their salvation.



satan knows the word very well, he instituted the OSAS teaching, Not God.

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Just goes to prove that you can study till you're blue in the face and still get it wrong.  Brother, I pray you'll understand.   

[nChrist]

Just goes to prove that you can study till you're blue in the face and still get it wrong.  Brother, I pray you'll understand.   :)

AMEN Brother Kevin!

I give thanks that I don't keep myself and I don't depend on myself because I am far too weak. BUT, JESUS is strong and never fails. HE picks me up when I stumble and welcomes me home when I stray from HIS Way. HE is not willing to lose even one that the FATHER has given HIM.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Colossians 2:8-10 NASB  See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

[Allinall]

I give thanks that I don't keep myself and I don't depend on myself because I am far too weak. BUT, JESUS is strong and never fails. HE picks me up when I stumble and welcomes me home when I stray from HIS Way. HE is not willing to lose even one that the FATHER has given HIM.

Amen Brother!

[Shammu]

Just goes to prove that you can study till you're blue in the face and still get it wrong.  Brother, I pray you'll understand.   

AMEN!! Brother Kevin!!

[Allinall]

AMEN!! Brother Kevin!!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaitaminutehere...You're not agreeing with me, you're agreeing with my statement!

Not bad!  Can I borrow that?      Love ya Brother!

[russ44k]

John 5 24 reads Truly truly, I say to you he who hears my word and belives in him who sent me  Has Eternal LIfe and does not come into judgement but has passed from death to life.The oppinion of those on this subject are great  to nuts. my thought is that I lean towards once saved always saved because there are a lot of verses that would make it seem that way  .One in mind is God s promise that no one can pluck you from His hand.with that said right on.no worries.
We all fail at some point for we are not perfect yet .Am I worried about my salvation or if I've done somthing that leads to death or lost salvation absolutly not
I am a new creature in Christ and though difficulties we grow in faith .the  spirit is with us well know when we fail and when we do'nt.Just to throw a little spin on the subject If once saved allways saved then do we lose free will.because if we cannot choose to turn away from God( why anyone would I don't know)
then we don't have free will and are not more than a robot.
 I have read stories of  those who had great ministries and left them and denounced God. are they still saved or was God using a nonbeliver to His advantage.Possible How about those who are in ministry and commit sin .is there salvation gone or have they neverbeen saved.
One verse Im thinking of is If you are saved you will not continue to sin.I've allways under stood that to mean habitual sin.I dont belive anyone can go through a day and not sin some way.or as i call it Insidental sin.it would be the type that once it happened you knew it.
 

[Jemidon2004]

hey kevin, at first glance you profile pic looked like Jesus was carrying a bat...but a second look he has wine and bread. Although i have seen some bread that could double as a bat................................lol

[Allinall]

hey kevin, at first glance you profile pic looked like Jesus was carrying a bat...but a second look he has wine and bread. Although i have seen some bread that could double as a bat................................lol

Cool ain't it?     HEY!  When did you get hitched?

[Jemidon2004]

August 26th of 2006 lol. U've been gone a while. I'm also going into athe Air Force. I passed my hearing test and am waiting to take my language test and computer programmers test. ) we'll see. Right now i work second shift to pay the bills. )

[Allinall]

Yup.  Been gone for quite awhile.  I did the 2nd shift thing when I was first married.  It's been 10 years now, and 2 and 1/2 kids later!  Things goin' good for you and the mrs?  Any ideas of where you'd like to be stationed in the Air Force?

[Jemidon2004]

Going pretty well, I want to go to London or Japan overseas, anywhere here in the states. Second shift isn't too bad. I work 4 tens and i'm off friday, sat, sunday. Soo it's not too bad. The wifey's getting ready to go spend her money (ours) lol that's how it usually works. She's stingy with money so I know we'll never go into debt lol. At least voluntarily...hee hee

[Allinall]

hehehe...my wife just bought a new stove/oven...after we paid our bills.  She called and said she's spent more money today than any day in her life.  I told her not to get used to it.     Now.  Lemme give my counsel for a newly married dude and dudette.  You, are the king.  She, is the servant girl.  You rule the home.  She cleans it.  Follow these simple rules and life will be great for the both of you!  That's how it works in my hou...er...a...hi honey!  Want me to get that for you...?