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« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2010, 08:20:47 PM »

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I disagree witih your interpretation of the Spirit in the passages you submitted.  I DO however agree with your affirmation:"Not a single pserson has ever been saved by water baptism, works, or obedience to the law."

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You disagree with Scripture, not my interpretation of it. The Scriptures speak for themselves. Read Verse 13 again. All you need to know about the one baptism is there in plain, simple, and unquestionable terms.

1 Corinthians 12:12-13 KJV  12  For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.  13  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Hint: the baptism isn't by a man, and there is no water involved.

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« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2010, 08:58:49 PM »

If you assume Spirit in Eph. 4:4 means baptism of the Spirit you assume too much.  A study of John chapters 13-16 will show Jesus was speaking only to His aposstles and He promosed to send to them the Comforter, the Spirit to guide them into all truth.  This the Spirit did.You say Eph.4 does not memtion water baptism.  TRUE.  But NEITHER does it say Holy Spirit baptism.
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« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2010, 04:38:09 AM »

If you assume Spirit in Eph. 4:4 means baptism of the Spirit you assume too much.  A study of John chapters 13-16 will show Jesus was speaking only to His aposstles and He promosed to send to them the Comforter, the Spirit to guide them into all truth.  This the Spirit did.You say Eph.4 does not memtion water baptism.  TRUE.  But NEITHER does it say Holy Spirit baptism.

I didn't assume anything. The Scriptures bluntly state For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Who do you think that the SPIRIT is who is BAPTIZING believers into one BODY. You shouldn't need to guess - The Holy Spirit of God. It's all very simple and to the point - just like the other portions of Scripture you have been given. They spell it out so bluntly that there is no other conclusion.
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« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2010, 09:07:14 AM »

Duval,

You contradict yourself here.....

To nChris you state
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  I DO however agree with your affirmation:"Not a single pserson has ever been saved by water baptism, works, or obedience to the law."

but earlier to me you stated just the opposite
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You asked: "what is the consequence of not being baptized (water)?"
My answer:  Hell.  Mark 16:15,16.

Roger also pointed out this error.

But let me address something here...you say that if you are not baptized by water, you will go to hell....where did the thief go that was on the cross with Jesus?  Or how about this, how many of the disciples are we told were baptized?
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« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2010, 02:39:09 PM »

Duval,

You contradict yourself here.....

 Hi duval  , and if Brother Jerry say that Baptism never saved anyone , what is wrong with that ??

 I know that if you had a better concept on  WHY  Baptism was  EVEN  GIVEN  to  Israel only  , and the  BIGGIE , that you have not   CONSIDERED   and  understand ,  IS  THAT   ISRAEL  IS  IN  COVENANT RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL .   dan p
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