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« Reply #1305 on: August 19, 2009, 01:12:14 AM »

Of course leave it to obama to punish Veterans for the governments lack of providing promised health care to them.



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I've never seen a group of so-called representatives try to create and pass such a MESS! They want everything to cost much more to receive much less - AND rob all citizens of freedom in the process. Their INSANE mess can't possibly be paid for, and the overall result would be destroying healthcare in this country. A great number of citizens will suffer and die if they manage to pass their garbage. This doesn't address the many states that are gearing up to say NO to this illegal and Unconstitutional BOONDOGGLE.
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« Reply #1306 on: August 19, 2009, 08:21:42 AM »

The idea is to kill off a lot of people and by doing so to return the earth to a utopia state and to thereby delay the destruction of the world. Of course there is no logic in any of this as the earth will never be in a utopia condition until Jesus returns, claims His own and sets up His Kingdom on earth.

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« Reply #1307 on: August 19, 2009, 10:02:52 AM »

The idea is to kill off a lot of people and by doing so to return the earth to a utopia state and to thereby delay the destruction of the world. Of course there is no logic in any of this as the earth will never be in a utopia condition until Jesus returns, claims His own and sets up His Kingdom on earth.



AMEN! As mature Christians, we know there is Bible Prophecy to be fulfilled, and many think that time is growing near. This evil world will get what it wants for a short period of time, and it will be the opposite of the utopia they dream of. The devil will help evil men make a horrible mess that only Jesus Christ will be able to fix. By that time, 75% of the earth's population will die in a horror of evil.

Ezekiel 38:1-23 KJV  And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,  2  Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,  3  And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:  4  And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:  5  Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:  6  Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.  7  Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.  8  After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.  9  Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.  10  Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:  11  And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,  12  To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.  13  Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?  14  Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?  15  And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:  16  And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.  17  Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?  18  And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.  19  For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;  20  So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.  21  And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.  22  And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.  23  Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.


The time will come when everything will be about THE GLORY OF GOD - not man. OUR CREATOR AND KING will take what is HIS, and all will know that HE IS GOD.
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« Reply #1308 on: August 22, 2009, 11:12:20 PM »

eBay seller releases video of 'Obama birth certificate'
Elusive Lucas Smith films alleged Kenyan document

A man who had claimed to have a copy of President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, attempted to sell it on eBay and then disappeared from contact has reappeared, this time with a video of the document he claims proves Obama's foreign birth.

As WND reported, Lucas Smith, a former resident of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and known by the eBay handle "colmado_noranja," claimed online and in phone conversations with WND to have an authentic document from Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa proving Obama's birth there at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

After promising to reveal the document to WND, Smith then dropped communications with a team of people offering to help him verify the document, only fueling belief the sale – and therefore the alleged document – was a scam.

Since then, various images have appeared online, purported to be Obama's original birth certificate – along with pranksters taking credit for forgeries meant to fool Americans still waiting for Obama to release conclusive proof of his purported Hawaiian birth.

For the rest of the article and for the video of the certificate:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107678
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« Reply #1309 on: August 23, 2009, 09:59:47 AM »

The truth is going to come out - sooner or later. I think that many news agencies already know the truth!

This is a big story that isn't being covered properly - EVEN BY FOX NEWS. Fox News simply needs to worry about getting the TRUTH and REPORTING IT.

I think that some media have much to gain financially from the LEFT. I think that some usually HONEST media are not pursuing some stories because of a perceived CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS resulting from PROOF that we don't have an ELIGIBLE person in office. I think that the damage done by this ineligible person left in office will be much worse than any possible Constitutional crisis. Many will NECESSARILY go to PRISON for a variety of serious CRIMES. There's an excellent reason why Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in trying to squash the BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE and other documentation sought. HE OBVIOUSLY HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE!
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« Reply #1310 on: August 24, 2009, 11:21:52 AM »

The idea is to kill off a lot of people and by doing so to return the earth to a utopia state and to thereby delay the destruction of the world. Of course there is no logic in any of this as the earth will never be in a utopia condition until Jesus returns, claims His own and sets up His Kingdom on earth.



AMEN

As Christians we should all know the prophecies to come, including the "Rapture" which will make millions of people disappear from this wretched planet we live on now.

Praise God in the highest, for the mercies He has shown His own.
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« Reply #1311 on: August 24, 2009, 12:09:39 PM »

Excerpts from my cousin in Montana. I've removed the personal things to me and other family members.

Hello All,

By now, you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here, and we were at the airport on Friday, I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you.

On Wednesday, August 5th, it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending, so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On Tuesday, Bill found out that they would be holding the Townhall meeting at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport).  Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you cannot get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.

FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, which would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming, several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession.

Late Tuesday/early Wednesday, the 12th,  they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations, and the president would be arriving around 12:30 on Friday.

On Thursday morning, about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop, per White House request. Hmmm ... 900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.  This same morning, someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of dollars worth of lobster was shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation, and it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession??  Just think ... with all of the traveling the White House is doing, $$$$$, one can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday, Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest, and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union ) members drove up onto the area (illegal) and unloaded right there. There was quite a commotion, and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man, but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd.

The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30, and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them ... professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area.

Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation, being orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So, we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press ... well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.

We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho . Speaking of the local media, they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people who talked about their insurance woes -- the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors ... EVERYTHING was staged!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America , more like the USSR !  I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when former Presidents or Heads of State visited. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country, please get involved. Know the issues, and let Congress hear your voices again and again.  If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town, one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC .   Scary!! 
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« Reply #1312 on: August 24, 2009, 05:56:47 PM »

The Obama administration is doing exactly what they accuse the right of doing - busing outsiders in to make their cause look good. The regular folks weren't invited.

This is going to backfire because the people won't tolerate it. We don't live in a country where the people are willing to fear the government because the government is a servant to the people. If there is any fear, it had better be the government fearing the people. This is a free country, and we are determined to keep it FREE. The PEOPLE are NOT going to be manhandled or abused, and the rights of the people ARE going to be honored. Further, our LAWS and CONSTITUTIONS ARE GOING TO BE OBEYED. THE PEOPLE CAN SEND THEM ALL HOME OR TO PRISON, INCLUDING THE UNION THUGS! NEWS FLASH! - THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE AND OUR REPRESENTATIVES NEED TO BE RUDELY REMINDED OF THIS. THEY ALSO NEED TO BE REMINDED THAT NOT ONE OF THEM IS ABOVE THE LAW OR THE CONSTITUTION!

We are watching gross CORRUPTION AND VIOLATION OF LAW. ALL MUST BE HELD TOTALLY ACCOUNTABLE UNDER THE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION! THE PEOPLE COULD CARE LESS WHAT RADICAL COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISTS WANT - THEY AREN'T GOING TO GET IT! WHAT THEY WANT IS ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL! IF THEY TRY TO DO IT ANYWAY, THEY NEED LOTS OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT IN PRISON!
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« Reply #1313 on: September 06, 2009, 12:20:37 PM »

Obama Plan: Temple Mount Under Arab-Muslim Sovereignty
 
(IsraelNN.com) The Middle East peace plan that United States President Barack Obama will unveil soon involves the creation of a Palestinian Authority state by 2011 and the transfer of Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem [presumably including the Temple Mount – ed.] to Arab-Muslim sovereignty, Saudi newspaper Al-Ukaz has learned.
 
According to the report published Sunday in Al-Ukaz, the Obama plan also includes the following elements:

Some parts of eastern Jerusalem [presumably Neveh Yaakov, Pisgat Ze'ev and the like - ed.] would be transferred to Israeli control.
There would be an international presence in the Jordan Valley and other parts of Judea and Samaria.
The Palestinian Authority terror organizations would be disbanded and turn into political parties.
The large settlement blocs in Judea and Samaria would not be dismantled.
The fate of smaller Jewish settlement areas would be decided in a three-month-long negotiation period.
A reporter for the Saudi newspaper received the information from Hassan Harisha, the Second Deputy Speaker of the Palestinian Authority Parliament. Harisha told him that the U.S. has handed over a draft of the peace proposal to the PA and other Arabs for their perusal.
 
The plan also calls for Judea and Samaria to be demilitarized and for its airspace to remain under Israel control. Israeli-Palestinian Authority security coordination would be strengthened, and the Palestinian Authority state would not be allowed to strike military treaties with other countries in the region.
 
An “agreed number” of Arab refugees would be absorbed in the Jordan Valley area and in other parts of Judea and Samaria – especially in the area between Ramallah and Shechem.
 
An international fund would support the refugees and Israel would release Palestinian Authority prisoners three years after a diplomatic accord is signed.

Will he lay out a blueprint?
The Saudi report notwithstanding, the Washington Post's Jackson Diehl estimated Sunday that Obama will not go so far as to present a blueprint for a peace settlement, despite being urged to do so by several Arab governments.

"As the U.N. General Assembly meets in late September, Obama aims to announce the opening of a new negotiating process between Israelis and Palestinians, along with 'confidence-building' steps by Israel, the Palestinian Authority and a number of Arab governments," the columnist wrote. Obama "will probably lay out at least a partial vision of the two-state settlement that all sides now say they support, and the course that negotiations should take. More significantly, he intends to set an ambitious timetable for completing the peace deal -- something that will please Arabs but may irritate Israel."

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« Reply #1314 on: September 06, 2009, 12:26:31 PM »

States consider pandemic responses - health authorities to enter homes, detain without warrant, forcefully quarantine, mandatory vaccinations


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A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.

If citizens refuse to comply with isolation or quarantine orders in the event of a health emergency, they may be imprisoned for up to 30 days and fined $1,000 per day that the violation continues.

Massachusetts' pandemic response bill

"Pandemic Response Bill" 2028 was passed by the Massachusetts state Senate on April 28 and is now awaiting approval in the House.

As stated in the bill, upon declaration by the governor that an emergency exists that is considered detrimental to public health or upon declaration of a state of emergency, a local public health authority, with approval of the commissioner, may exercise the following authorities:

to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;
to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;
to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;
to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;
to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;
to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area;
to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health;
to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency;
to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth;
to waive the commonwealth's licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth;
to allow for the dispensing of controlled substance by appropriate personnel consistent with federal statutes as necessary for the prevention or treatment of illness;
to authorize the chief medical examiner to appoint and prescribe the duties of such emergency assistant medical examiners as may be required for the proper performance of the duties of office;
to collect specimens and perform tests on any animal, living or deceased;
to exercise authority under sections 95 and 96 of chapter 111;
to care for any emerging mental health or crisis counseling needs that individuals may exhibit, with the consent of the individuals
State and local agencies responding to the public health emergency would be required to exercise their powers over transportation routes, communication devices, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing and shelter, according to the legislation.

Local public health authorities will be required to keep records of reports containing the name and location of all people who have been reported, their disease, injury, or health condition and the name of the person reporting the case. In addition, citizens may be subject to "involuntary transportation."

Line 341 of the bill states, "Law enforcement authorities, upon order of the commissioner or his agent or at the request of a local public health authority pursuant to such order, shall assist emergency medical technicians or other appropriate medical personnel in the involuntary transportation of such person to the tuberculosis treatment center. No law enforcement authority or medical personnel shall be held criminally or civilly liable as a result of an act or omission carried out in good faith in reliance on said order."

Vaccinate or isolate

Whenever the commissioner or a public-health authority decides it is necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health, they are authorized:

(1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis (preventative procedure) to individuals as protection against communicable disease and to prevent the spread of communicable or possible communicable disease, provided that any vaccine to be administered must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual; and
(2) to treat individuals exposed to or infected with disease, provided that treatment must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual. An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined … if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction. (emphasis added)

Under such circumstances, authorities are also allowed to decontaminate individuals and perform physical examinations, tests and specimen collection to determine whether "an individual presents a risk to public health." If a citizen refuses, he or she may be isolated, quarantined and/or detained "for as long as may be reasonably necessary," the bill states.

Law enforcement authorities are authorized to "arrest without warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated an order for isolation or quarantine and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order. Any person who knowingly violates an order for isolation or quarantine shall be punished by imprisonment of not more than 30 days and may be subject to a civil fine of not more than $1,000 per day that the violation continues." (emphasis added)

Other state quarantine orders

Iowa's Facility Quarantine Order

As WND reported, a blank document from the Iowa Department of Public Health has been discovered online, designed to be filled in with the name of an H1N1 virus victim who is required to relocate from his or her home to a quarantine facility.

The form, which began appearing Aug 31 in e-mails and on the Internet, has concerned a confused public already swimming in conflicting reports about the severity of the swine flu and intrusive government measures that many fear may be taken if the disease becomes a pandemic.

The Iowa document, which WND confirmed with state officials is authentic, has done little to calm the public's fears.

"The Iowa Department of Public Health has determined that you have had contact with a person with Novel Influenza A H1N1," the form reads. "The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease.

"The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable," the document continues, before listing mandatory provisions of compliance with relocation to a quarantine facility.

According to the CDC, the following states have implemented legal actions in response to the H1N1 virus:

Florida – the Florida surgeon general suspended distribution permit requirements Florida statutes to allow wholesale distribution of Tamiflu and Relenza. The state has also distributed a series of blank quarantine order forms, including a voluntary home quarantine agreement, a quarantine to residence order, a quarantine to residence order (non-compliance), a quarantine to facility order, quarantine detention order, quarantine of facility order, building quarantine closure order and area quarantine closure order.

Iowa – In addition to the facility quarantine order listed above, Iowa has also made available forms for voluntary home confinement, home quarantine and home isolation.

Massachusetts – Massachusetts lists its own procedures for isolation and quarantine.

North Carolina – The North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services released a draft isolation order that would provide for imprisonment for up to two years and pretrial detention without bail for any citizen who fails to comply with an isolation order.

Washington – Washington grants authority to local health officers to issue emergency detention orders causing citizens to be immediately and involuntarily isolated or quarantined for up to 10 days.

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« Reply #1315 on: September 06, 2009, 12:27:04 PM »

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In addition, governors and health commissioners in the following states have declared a state of emergency since April following concerns about the H1N1 virus: California, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nebraska, New York, Ohio, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Next step: Mandatory swine flu vaccines?

According to the White House, "Since the novel 2009-H1N1 flu virus emerged in the United States during the third week of April, the president has received regular briefings and asked his Cabinet to spare no effort in addressing this national security challenge."

The White House also lists as a priority, "Preparing for a voluntary, but strongly recommended, H1N1 flu shot program to be available to all Americans that wish to participate over a period of time."

Barbara Loe Fischer, president of the National Vaccine Information Center, referenced the controversial Massachusetts bill in her commentary, "Swine flu vaccine: Will we have a choice?"

Fischer said, "Public health doctors have persuaded legislators to pass pandemic influenza legislation that will allow state officials to enter homes and businesses without the consent of occupants, to investigate and quarantine individuals without their consent, to require licensed health-care providers to give citizens vaccines and to ban the free assembly of citizens in the state."

She said World Health Organization doctors "immediately went into high gear" within days of identifying the new swine flu virus emerging out of Mexico and declared a public-health emergency. Now, Fischer says, the CDC is taking the opportunity to exercise unprecedented power.

"Whenever the CDC now declares a public-health emergency, that declaration allows the Food and Drug Administration to permit emergency-use authorization for drug companies to fast-track creation of experimental drugs and vaccines that do not have to be tested as thoroughly as vaccines that go through the normal FDA-licensing process.

"In this case, Congress responded to the public health emergency declaration by giving a group of drug companies $1 billion to fast-track experimental swine flu vaccines that may include whole, live or killed, or genetically engineered human and animal viruses, chemicals and potentially reactive oil-based adjuvants that manipulate the immune system to boost the vaccine's potency. People who already have sensitive immune systems, such as those with allergy and autoimmune disorders, may be at special risk."

Furthermore, Fischer said 80 percent of all flu-like illness in a normal flu season is not caused by type A and B strains of influenza contained in annual flu shots.

While Fischer argues that citizens should be given the opportunity to voluntarily submit to flu vaccinations, she said, "Vaccine-acquired immunity is temporary while immunity gained after recovering from influenza is longer lasting."

She said people born before 1957 may be naturally protected and at lower risk of being infected because they have long-lasting antibodies working against the virus and helping them resist infection.

"Will health officials allow our children and grandchildren to get the same kind of natural, longer-lasting protective antibodies to type A and B influenza, including the new swine flu?" she asked. "It looks like few choices will be allowed."

Cure more deadly than disease?

Although White House science advisers have warned that up to 90,000 Americans might die from H1N1 during the coming flu season, the head of the CDC responded by telling the public to ignore such a high mortality estimate, saying the current H1N1 couldn't kill that many people without mutating.

Use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 resulted in 25 people suffering from severe paralysis and dying from respiratory failure after being injected with the vaccine – more than the number of lives claimed from the virus itself.

Additionally, the vaccine is said to contain thimerosal, a preservative ingredient composed of mercury that has been linked to autism in young children.

The FDA states, "Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine."

Thimerosal has also been linked to Guillain-Barre syndrome, or GBS – a serious disorder that occurs when the body's immune system mistakenly attacks the nervous system and may result in death.

In 1976, health officials found nearly 500 cases of GBS, and the vaccine was withdrawn 10 weeks after the link with GBS was suspected. Following the 1976 vaccination against swine flu in the U.S., a retrospective study found a likely eight-fold increase in the incidence of GBS.

Now that the nation is preparing for another round of H1N1 flu shots, the Oregonian reported that the federal government is urging neurologists to keep a close watch for new cases of GBS.

In a study conducted at the University of Hong Kong, the British Medical Journal reported that less than half of 8,500 doctors and nurses in public hospitals will accept vaccination against the swine flu – even following increases in the World Health Organization's pandemic alert level.

The study revealed, "The major barriers identified were fear of side effects and doubts about efficacy."

According to the following report by Russia Today, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen revealed that even scientists who helped develop a vaccine for small pox are saying they will not take the vaccine and urging friends and family to refrain from taking the injection as well:

Nonetheless, federal authorities are preparing to launch a nationwide campaign to convince Americans to get the swine flu vaccine, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. Government officials have expressed concern that public demand for immunization will not be high enough.

"Many parents (in focus groups) expressed a lot of concerns about 2009 H1N1 vaccine. Those concerns were centered around the fact that it was new and it was being developed quickly," said Kris Sheedy, a communications director with the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. "There were comments such as 'this is new and I don't want my child to be a guinea pig.'"

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the government will spend "about $16 million on outreach to convince people of the need to get the swine flu vaccine."

As WND reported, alarmist language over possible outbreaks of swine flu as well as a series of moves by the federal government are fueling fears federal agents will soon be forcing citizens to be vaccinated – prompting the Constitution Party to launch a pre-emptive defense against any such effort.

Fischer warned that Americans must become educated about vaccination, influenza, vaccine risks and public health laws in their states.

"Every pharmaceutical drug, including vaccines, carries a risk. And those risks are greater for some than others," she said. "In this time of fear, we can't let that fear take away our freedom to make voluntary health decisions. The human right to informed consent to medical risk taking gives citizens the power to make sure that the cure is not more dangerous than the disease."
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« Reply #1316 on: September 09, 2009, 11:35:25 AM »

Grading the Big Speech:
A 10-Point Citizens' Checklist on Health Reform


by Newt Gingrich

President Obama has had a month to listen to the American people.

For a month, angry Americans have gone to town hall meetings in large numbers to oppose more spending, more government, and more Washington centered bureaucracy.

For a month, the polls have gotten worse and worse for big spending, big deficit, high taxes, and big government.

But on Labor Day, President Obama gave us a sign he hasn't been listening. He gave a campaign-style speech in which he accused his critics of spreading "lies" and failing to offer their own solutions for health care reform.

Tonight President Obama has another opportunity to show us if he's willing to listen to us, or to his party's leftwing.

Below is a ten-point checklist you can use to judge for yourself.

Facing a Far Left Revolt, the President Has a Choice to Make
In his speech to Congress this evening, President Obama has a choice to make.
 
He has to choose between listening to what the American people are telling him, and what the Left is telling him.

A recent Gallup poll revealed that only 13% of the American people want permanently expanded government.

In sharp contrast, the liberal base of the President's party views government run health care as nonnegotiable.

The Left is already threatening primary opposition to President Obama if he doesn't stick with them and seek to impose radical change on the American people.

As MSNBC's Keith Olbermann said last week "If it's necessary to find somebody else to run against him, I think liberals would do it, no matter how destructive that may seem".

Despite the Hard Line of the Left, Health Care Reform Is Still Possible
Despite the intransigence on the Left, bipartisan health reform supported by a huge majority of Americans is still possible.

The question is whether the President can reach out to the majority of us.

So to understand the President's speech tonight – his most important speech since his Inaugural address – do these three things:

Forget the details Forget the rhetoric. And ask yourself this:

Is this a speech designed to bring together Americans to pass bipartisan health reform?

Or is this a speech designed to appease the Left?

Here's a ten-point checklist to help you decide for yourself. Print it out and use it to judge the President's speech tonight.

In his proposals for reform, does the President include litigation reform, which 84% of Americans believe will help reduce costs and which is the number one goal of doctors in any health reform?

Does he include a section onsaving money by stopping payments to crooks who are bilking the taxpayers for $70-120 billion each year in Medicare and Medicaid fraud? For 88 percent of Americans, this is the first place they would look to find savings in our health care system. Is President Obama willing to look there?

Does his speech reject higher taxes, which the vast majority of Americans believe will make the current economy even worse and increase unemployment even more?

Does it reject all government rationing of health services which the American people have vocally opposed at town hall meetings across the country?

Does it reject any government run, bureaucratic health plan?

Is President Obama open to four or five bipartisan bills which could pass with big bipartisan majorities? Or does he insist on a single omnibus bill of 1000-plus pages like the one that failed when Mrs. Clinton tried to pass it in 1993-1994?

Is he for sustaining the Senate rule of 60 votes to ensure a bill that has wide, bipartisan support? Or is he prepared to destroy long-standing Senate tradition and ram through a radical bill with 51 votes?

Does President Obama give any indication he is forincreasing the power, information and choice of the individual and their doctor or is he giving more power to the government?

Does he focus on health, wellness, prevention, early detection and health management to avoid or control the severity of chronic diseases? Or does he spend his time talking only about acute care?

Does his plan invest in science and technology in order to increase innovation and accelerate the discovery and adoption of new discoveries and breakthroughs in diseases such as Alzheimer's, cancer and diabetes?


Share Your Scores With Me At HealthTransformation.net
 
When the speech is over, look over your check list.

Each "yes" is worth 10 percent.

Each failure is worth zero.

Share your score with me at healthtransformation.net.

And ask yourself this:

How close did the President come to a plan the American people actually want?

Your friend,

Newt Gingrich
 
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« Reply #1317 on: September 23, 2009, 10:27:39 PM »

Obama Speech Puts Israel on 'Chopping Block'

Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:10 PM
By: Jim Meyers

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton said President Barack Obama's address to the U.N. was "unprecedented" and "unpresidential" as he sought to distance himself from the previous administration.

In an interview with Fox News’ Megyn Kelly immediately following Obama’s speech, Kelly cited Obama's statement that Iran and North Korea must be "held accountable" and “the world must stand together to demonstrate that international law is not an empty promise and that treaties will be enforced. We must insist that the future does not belong to fear."

Kelly asked: "Does that advance the ball?"

"I don’t think so," Bolton responded.

"I think that is exactly the problem that the Security Council of the United Nations has not been able to address effectively with respect to Iran and North Korea’s proliferation activities.

"So to me that was a real example, citing international law of all things, of how the U.N. has failed in the past. I think that really what the president is hoping for is that because he is Barack Obama, he asked explicitly for the other nations to join with him.

"I don’t think that’s going to change anything, but that reflects the very basic view that his accession to the presidency alone changes America’s perception in the world and therefore should change others’ policies. It hasn’t happened in eight months. We’ll see what happens now."

Obama's speech included the remark: "I took office when many around the world had come to view America with skepticism and mistrust," Kelly noted.

"I have never seen an American president give a speech at the United Nations that spent so much time contrasting his administration with the previous administration," Bolton observed.

"Obviously a president talks about his own policies and how he sees America’s role in the world. But this was a speech almost more designed for an American audience than an international audience, hoping to play on the aspect that he is not George Bush. I was struck by how personal it was, and I must say how unpresidential."

Obama also stated: "Democracy cannot be imposed on any nation from the outside...America has too often been selective in its promotion of democracy."

Bolton commented: "As I said, a president is going to advocate his own policies. But these repeated efforts by the president in this speech to say implicitly, I am not George Bush, is I think unprecedented.

"And I think it’s carrying an American political debate, which is legitimate to have, into the international arena. That is particularly what I find unpresidential."

Bolton also said that in his address Obama "put Israel on the chopping block. I don’t think there’s ever been a speech by an American president, let alone one at the United Nations, that was so critical of Israel."

Obama Speech Puts Israel on 'Chopping Block'
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« Reply #1318 on: September 23, 2009, 10:40:39 PM »


I Barry's address to the UN, and realized it sounded EXACTLY like a campaign speech. "ME, ME, ME"..."I'm the greatest thing that has happened to that poor lost country called the U.S.A.". He's already president, so what is he campaigning for and why is it AGAINST our country??

I have always pictured the Anti-Christ controlling the entire world. Not just Europe and the Mideast but his rule would affect everyone in the world. And it would mostly be in place for him and all he'd have to do is step in and perhaps put the finishing touches on his world government.

Our world has never really been accommodating till recent years. We stubbornly treasured our sovereignty.

There has been an increase of men rising up in power, in recent years, who seem to want to make global government possible. The completely useless & pointless UN is the leader of the pack. Each President since George W Bush have played their role. Obama came along and took it from cruising-right-along to full-speed-ahead.

We are moving so much closer to when all the AC will have to do is rise up and step into his position.

The pieces of destruction are falling into place, Obama is beyond immature, he's dangerous!!

He's doing what he promised he would do, transform America, this man and his radical leftist (socialism) ideology has no business leading this Nation. A Nation gets a leader it deserves, I personally think McCain would have been a better choice, but the Republicans are equally to blame for the mess our Nation is in.

Obama and his administration are the perfect storm to destroy 200 years of hard work by the American people. It's a no win situation, unless you're a Christian, and I thank, and give praise to God I am!!!!!

It's just amazing to be a watcher of prophecy, reading today's headlines and see these acts going on in the world.

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« Reply #1319 on: September 23, 2009, 11:25:28 PM »

YES, all of the giant pieces of Bible Prophecy are ready to fall into place. We can see the signs all over the world. We don't know when, but we do know that the Tribulation Period will be an absolute reality. We might also be watching why America isn't a player. America is well on the way to being destroyed and insignificant. It's being destroyed from within and could easily fall under the weight of its own CORRUPTION. On top of everything else, our allies can no longer trust America. Sadly, CORRUPTION is our current reputation - along with gross mis-management of nearly everything. The number of examples are almost countless now. Maybe we're having a race with the U.N. about who can be the most CORRUPT, but Washington, D.C. has already become a synonym for CORRUPTION. Trust, the Rule of Law, and the Constitution are no longer a priority. America is becoming insignificant for the same reasons why the U.N. is insignificant. TRUST is one of the missing ingredients.
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