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« Reply #1275 on: July 28, 2009, 03:26:58 AM »


Each and every day that we are silent and un-organized, our situation worsens, and when the time truly comes that our oppression becomes unbearable, we may find it impossible to shake loose the tyranny. It is time to take up the fight begun by our forefathers who sacrificed everything so we could be free.

Our forefathers of this country revolted against far less tyranny from England, then what is happening right now.

According to the Bible, the state is a greatly decentralized institution, growing out of the family (Deuteronomy 1:13-17). Local magistrates are charged with "keeping the peace," and families authorize their role. In modern terms, we may say that the strongest politician in the country should be your local sheriff. His sole job is to suppress external evildoing, defined according to God's law, not mans law.

The Biblical state protects against tyranny from within (crime) and tyranny from without (invasion). There is no Biblical justification for war except to protect against tyranny from without, invasion. This means, in modern terms, that the state must be a "DOVE" when contemplating the invasion of any other nation's borders and a "HAWK" when protecting its own border. In blatant violation of God's law, the President has extorted an excess of property from its citizens in the form of taxation, of its citizens and it's only going to get worse.

The only possible solution is a return to Biblical Christianity and its program of overcoming SIN by peaceful change, the gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, of self-government, and of godly families and churches and a free market guarded by moral premises set forth in the Bible.

Liberty must at all hazard be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and brought it for us at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.” –John Adams, “A Dissetation on the Canon and Feudal Laws,” 1765

By the way,k I read today that, Health care bill will pass House, Nancy (Dictator) Pelosi says link.

And I think I've gone on far enought for tonight.

Resting in the Hands of the Lord.
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« Reply #1276 on: July 28, 2009, 07:28:52 AM »

AMEN BROTHER BOB!

Well said!

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Psalms 139:4 ASV  4  For there is not a word in my tongue, But, lo, O Jehovah, thou knowest it altogether.
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« Reply #1277 on: July 29, 2009, 02:32:36 PM »

Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961
long-form birth certificates
Real documents include
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Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.

The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.

The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.

As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino declared she has seen the "original birth records" that verify Obama was born in Hawaii and is a "natural-born American citizen," the Honolulu Advertiser reported.

Join in WND's Fedex campaign and tell Obama you don't buy his state-run media coverup!

But in two separate telephone interviews with WND, Janice Okubo, the health department's public information officer, told WND that Hawaii law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.

WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001.

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See the full article along with images of a real Hawaiian birth certificate:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

There is enough evidence of falsifying documents in this case on the part of obama and his group that all but the completely blind should be convinced.

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« Reply #1278 on: July 29, 2009, 02:55:01 PM »

We are truly watching OUTRAGEOUS lying CORRUPTION and the intentional violation of countless laws and the Constitution. IT'S TIME FOR AN EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE TEAM OF INVESTIGATORS, PROSECUTORS, AND GRAND JURIES. THERE'S A PACK OF RABID RATS THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!
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« Reply #1279 on: July 29, 2009, 03:11:06 PM »

The American Spectator
July 24, 2009
By Ben Stein

We've Figured Him Out

Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?

Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer," Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naïveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

The American people already know that Mr. Obama's plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be -- a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to "protect us" from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.
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« Reply #1280 on: July 30, 2009, 02:16:18 AM »

We are truly watching OUTRAGEOUS lying CORRUPTION and the intentional violation of countless laws and the Constitution. IT'S TIME FOR AN EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE TEAM OF INVESTIGATORS, PROSECUTORS, AND GRAND JURIES. THERE'S A PACK OF RABID RATS THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!


And you know Obama will fight against everything we try brother. This is including martial law, to get his way. I also think he will start censor anyone, or anything, so long as he can have what he wants.

I'm starting to think Obama is a little bigger anti-christ then what I first thought he was. There is no doubt in my mind Obama is "a" anti-christ, I don't think though he is "the" anti-christ.....................

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« Reply #1281 on: July 30, 2009, 08:10:36 AM »

And you know Obama will fight against everything we try brother. This is including martial law, to get his way. I also think he will start censor anyone, or anything, so long as he can have what he wants.

He is already doing just that. He has caused a number of people to lose their jobs that have done nothing more than to speak out against him. The next step will be jailing them and instituting martial law.

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I'm starting to think Obama is a little bigger anti-christ then what I first thought he was. There is no doubt in my mind Obama is "a" anti-christ, I don't think though he is "the" anti-christ.....................

You are either for Him or you are against Him so you are either an antichrist or you are not. Although I do agree that obama is an antichrist that is working harder against God and Christians than many others are.
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« Reply #1282 on: July 30, 2009, 11:11:11 PM »

Brothers and Sisters,

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama stands against everything decent in the foundation of this country. Others can argue and debate all they want, but our foundation was God and under God. There is also no doubt in my mind that we prospered and were blessed by God, but the nation has been obviously turning away from God for over 50 years.

1 John 2:15-18 KJV  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.  16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.  17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.  18  Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


There are many antichrists, and I firmly believe that Obama is one of them. I don't think that he's THE antichrist, but it's obvious that he's against everything Christian and Godly. Obama pretended many things during the election, but I don't think that he pretended very well. I say this, but he obviously deceived many and we still don't know who or what we have in the office of President. Those who can see and hear know that it isn't anything good, but it appears that many can't see or hear. We've now seen 6 months of his evil agenda, and many are finally beginning to see. Many self-professing Christians voted for him, so they were obviously deceived. They don't like hearing they were deceived, but they were. Race is not an issue at all - just his void of values, ethics, and morals. I say that race is NOT an issue - it isn't for the voters - but it is for Obama or whatever his name is. Plain and simple - TYRANNY is his agenda, and there isn't any room there for God. He wants to be the god of the land. Sadly, he is for some people.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 John 2:19-29 KJV  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.  20  But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.  21  I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.  22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.  23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.  24  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.  25  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.  26  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.  27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.  28  And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.  29  If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
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« Reply #1283 on: July 31, 2009, 01:18:36 AM »

Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave
July 30, 2009

DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background check on President Barack Obama.

A representative for the DeKalb County CEO’s office identified the officers as Ryan White and C.M. Route.

Officials said Obama’s name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.

The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County Police Department.

A representative said both officers have been with the department less than five years.

A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.

An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police Department’s Internal Affairs division.

It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president.

Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave
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So I don't see anything wrong, with them doing a background check. I mean, don't most cops run background checks on most suspected criminals?

To me, Obama is a criminal, and should be charged with breaking the law, of the "Logan Act". He did this while he was still a Senator.  For those of you who don't know the "Logan Act", it is;

The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.

Congress established the Logan Act in 1799, less than one year after passage of the ALIEN AND SEDITION ACTS, which authorized the arrest and deportation of ALIENS and prohibited written communication defamatory to the U.S. government.

The Logan Act has remained almost unchanged and unused since its passage. The act is short and reads as follows:

"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

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« Reply #1284 on: July 31, 2009, 09:12:47 PM »

Stimulus Funding Pornography
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FOX News is reporting that some of the money the NEA received from the Recovery and Reinvestment Act may be funding pornography.

The National Endowment for the Arts is spending some of the money it received from the Recovery and Reinvestment Act to fund nude simulated-sex dances, Saturday night "pervert" revues and the airing of pornographic horror films at art houses in San Francisco.

But some of the NEA's grants are spicing up more than the economy. A few of their more risque choices have some taxpayer advocates hot under the collar, including a $50,000 infusion for the Frameline film house, which recently screened Thundercrack, "the world's only underground kinky art porno horror film, complete with four men, three women and a gorilla."

The NEA apparently received $80 million to give to needy artists nationwide, and much of that money is going to good causes like helping museums, orchestras and dance troupes that are hurting from the recession.  However, do we really need to fund nude dances and pornographic horror films?

One example of such funding is the $25,000 grant in the "Dance" category to San Francisco's CounterPULSE, whose "long-running pansexual performance series" invites guests to "join your fellow pervs for some explicit, twisted fun."  A staffer at CounterPULSE stated that they were pleased to receive the grant, "which over the next year will be used to preserve jobs at our small non-profit."

Another is a project by choreographer Jess Curtis called "The Symmetry Project" which is set to receive $25,000, and features "the sharing of a central axis, [as] spine, mouth, genitals, face, and anus reveal their interconnectedness and centrality in embodied experience."  In the flesh -- and there's a lot of it -- it amounts to two people writhing naked on the floor, a government-funded tango in the altogether.

David Williams, vice president for policy at Citizens Against Government Waste, says that "when you spend so much money in a short amount of time . . . you're going to have nonsense like this, and that's why the stimulus should never have been done in the first place.  When taxpayers see this, they realize that's just a bunch of hot air."

However, the NEA seems to be proud of their funding decisions so far, porn and all, because NEA spokeswoman Victoria Hutter says "It's a thorough, rigorous process that they all go through, and we're proud of the projects that we've been able to support."
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« Reply #1285 on: July 31, 2009, 09:24:37 PM »

Stimulus jobs = high school summer work
Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 7/31/2009 7:00:00

An economist says because President Obama's stimulus package was rammed through Congress with the promise it would quickly turn the economy around and create positive job growth by the end of this summer, Americans are now asking the president and Democrats on Capitol Hill, "Where's the meat on the table after you promised us a banquet?"

The Associated Press reports that Democratic lawmakers in Oregon are taking credit for creating 3,236 new stimulus jobs in the government program's first three months. However, according to AP, those jobs lasted on average only 35 hours -- or about one work week.

Rea Hederman, a senior policy analyst at The Heritage Foundation, says most Americans would not consider those short-term projects real jobs, but rather part-time work akin to what a high schooler might do during the summer.

"You're talking about spending a substantial amount of money to put people to work for a day, a couple of days, a week. And let's remember, that money's got to come from somewhere. That money is coming from taxpayers; it's coming out of more government borrowing," he notes.

"And so, you look at the cases [and ask] is this is a good deal? Is this something that the government should be spending money on? And I think the idea that somehow people are going to get value out of working for half a day, a day, or even a week, and the idea that's going to be somehow worth the economic cost of paying for these programs, I think it's ridiculous."

Hederman says the American people remember that President Obama promised the country's unemployment level would never surpass eight percent once the stimulus was in place, so they are not buying the Obama administration's current claim that they never promised the stimulus would start working overnight.
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« Reply #1286 on: July 31, 2009, 09:42:35 PM »

A Teachable Moment Indeed
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The Henry Louis Gates Jr./Cambridge police flap is most significant for what it tells us about President Barack Obama, his approach to the presidency, and his general attitude, including on matters of race.

In his July 22 news conference on health care, one member of the media asked Obama, "What does (the Gates arrest) incident say to you, and what does it say about race relations in America?"

Without hesitation, Obama launched into what appeared to be a pre-considered response. Had he been caught off guard by the question, we might assume he would hesitate -- at least briefly -- and then decline to inject himself into the matter.

We should expect Obama, of all people, given his reputation for coolness and sagacity, to act presidentially, not only in measuring his thoughts before speaking but also in declining to comment on local matters beyond his duties and about which he doesn't have all the facts.

But Obama's attitude toward the presidency is not particularly aligned with what our constitutional Framers had in mind. He obviously believes it is his prerogative to micromanage any and every aspect of American life, from the catastrophic to the mundane.

He's displayed this attitude in town hall meetings, where he has given advice to attendees concerning their specific problems, as if it were his place to make personal house calls on matters ranging from people's health care problems to their mortgages. All of this is consistent with Obama's perception of government's cradle-to-grave caretaker role and his effort to cultivate a dependency mindset in Americans.

But in this case, Obama decided to weigh in, even after admitting that "Skip" Gates is his "friend," that he "may be a little biased here," and that he didn't "know all the facts." We know he made this decision with premeditation, because White House press secretary Robert Gibbs admitted they had anticipated and prepared for the question.

Obama recited a Gates-slanted version of the events, suggesting that Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley arrested Gates for disorderly conduct after Gates, inside his home, showed Crowley his ID. Obama pointedly added that the charges were "later dropped."

Then he gratuitously and incendiarily threw race into the mix, saying that we don't know what role race played in the incident (hint, hint) and adding that it's "fair to say ... any of us would be pretty angry." He said the Cambridge police acted "stupidly" in arresting Gates in his own home -- completely ignoring Crowley's explanation that he arrested Gates for his disorderly and abusive behavior as opposed to his race. Obama exacerbated that impression by launching into a mini-diatribe about the "long history" of racial profiling by American cops. "That's just a fact," he said.

Obama intentionally exploited the incident with reckless disregard for the damage he did to Gates, to law enforcement generally, and to ongoing race relations. All in all, a disgraceful performance and not one befitting a self-described post-racial president.

Adding insult to injury, he later held a news conference, not to apologize, but to justify himself. The arrogance and presumptuousness of his original remarks were only exceeded by these follow-up statements.

He revealed that he had personally talked with both Sgt. Crowley and professor Gates. Can you imagine the media reaction if President Bush -- the guy they said never admitted his mistakes -- had insinuated himself to that degree in a local matter?

Obama said he had given an unfortunate impression that he was maligning Crowley or the Cambridge Police Department and could have -- not even "should have" -- "calibrated" his words differently. Pure weasel words when a simple, heartfelt apology would have sufficed.

Next he offered his patronizing assessment that both men probably overreacted and that cooler heads should have prevailed. How about an acknowledgment that he -- Obama -- overreacted?

How does Obama know whether both were at fault? He may pretend he was being noble and high-minded by declaring that each shared blame, but if it turns out that Crowley was acting appropriately, then Obama further damaged him by suggesting otherwise.

Just as importantly, why would he continue, inappropriately, to comment on the facts? Obviously because he wanted to exploit this incident as a "teachable moment" on race relations, whether or not the facts fit his template.

If there's a teachable moment here, it's that not everything between blacks and whites or Hispanics and whites is about race, and people, especially U.S. presidents when commenting on local matters that don't concern them, should not always jump to the conclusion that racism is involved. They should not yell "racism" (or any other "ism") first and examine the facts later. Leave that to the Sharptons and Jacksons.

If President Obama truly wants to enhance race relations, he would be better served to follow the example of Bill Cosby rather than that of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
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« Reply #1287 on: July 31, 2009, 10:12:30 PM »

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Obamacare called 'euthanasia bill'
Critic: 'Reflects regime worse than China's one-child policy'

Posted: July 31, 2009
12:45 am Eastern

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The Democrats' proposed national health insurance plan would dictate medications, treatments and mental health services; determine coverages individuals are allowed to have; and operate with real-time access to personal bank accounts, according to a new analysis.

And it's worse, a critic said, than China's mandatory one-child policy.

"In the same way that the bill pushes elderly or the sick toward euthanasia, it is a pill that would cause economic suicide," said Mathew Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel. "It's a euthanasia bill for America."

Congress members have admitted they have not read the more-than-1,000-page bill, and Staver's organization is one of the first to go through it and offer an analysis.

In the Liberty Counsel analysis, Staver notes that under Section 163, the government would be allowed to have real-time access to individuals' finances, including direct access to bank accounts for electronic funds transfers.

Under Section 1308, the analysis finds, the government will dictate marriage and family therapy as well as mental health services, including the definitions of those treatments.

Will the elites control life itself? 'The Emerging Brave New World' documents the battle against the sanctity of life ethic

Under Section 1401, a Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research would be set up, creating a bureaucracy through which federal employees could determine whether any treatment is "comparatively effective" for any individual based on the cost, likely success and probably the years left in life.

It also, according to Staver, "covers abortions, transsexual surgeries, encourages counseling as to how many children you should have, whether you should increase the interval between children."

The plan would allow, in Section 1401, for the collection of information about individuals' health records, both "published and unpublished," and recommend policies for public access to data.

"It reflects a repressive regime worse than China's one-child policy," Staver told WND. "It's going down the road for a government that manages the most intimate matters of your life regarding health and safety."

Further, the plan is created to be the "only game in town," he said. And as people age or get sicker, it includes mandatory "consultations" offering suggestions on how to end life sooner, he said.

The Liberty Counsel staff that did the research was "astonished" by what they found.

 J. Matt Barber, director of cultural affairs for Liberty Counsel, said in a commentary the bill reflects the influence of those who now surround President Obama.

"His choice of Harvard professor and self-styled 'neo-Malthusain' John Holdren as 'science czar' provides the latest and perhaps most troubling example of just how bad America really muffed it last November," Barber wrote.

"In the name of population control, Holdren has advocated both forced abortion and compulsory sterilization through government-administered tainting of the water supply. In a book he co-authored, entitled 'Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment,' Holdren calls for a 'Planetary Regime' to enforce mandatory abortions and limit the use of natural resources," he wrote.

Staver pointed to some of Holdren's outrageous suggestions, such as implanting sterility capsules in girls at puberty and extracting them only when they obtain government permission to have children. For men, he has suggested putting additives in the water system to cause sterility.

Barber wrote that Holdren has affirmed he believes there is "ample authority" under the U.S. Constitution for population growth to be "regulated."

"Even ... laws requiring compulsory abortion … could be sustained under the existing Constitution," Holdren suggested.

Nina May, founder of Renaissance Women, added to the arguments. She cited a 1948 Hitchcock movie about murder in which the victim's body is hidden in plain sight.

"The health care bill that Obama proposes has this theme at its core and has in its crosshairs the Baby Boomer engine that is pulling the derailed economy as it takes its final lap toward retirement. In less than two years, Baby Boomers will begin retiring in multitudes, expecting to reclaim the hard earned money they have been paying into Social Security. But this Health Care Bill, HR3200, has other plans for them," she wrote.

"Those 65 and older will be required to undergo mandatory 'end of life' counseling to determine if they are worthy to continue to not only live, but take much needed resources from those who are younger and more worthy to receive them. Counselors will be trained to discuss how to end life sooner, how to decline nutrition and hydration, how to go into hospice, etc.," she said.

"This will not be done without coercion. For those who have amassed assets enough to take care of themselves in their old age will have these assets confiscated in the name of fiscal responsibility, because by this time, every citizen will be entered into a national database under the guise of improved efficiency. This database will be run by a type of 'star chamber,' appointed by the president, that will determine whether or not you deserve the much needed operation your personal doctor thinks you need," she said.

The Liberty Counsel analysis also pointed out the government would be allowed to ration health care procedures, prevent "judicial review" of its decision, tell doctors what income they can have, impose new taxes for anyone not having an "acceptable" coverage, regulate whether seniors can have wheelchairs, penalize hospitals or doctors whose patients require "readmission," prevent the expansion of hospitals and set up procedures for home visits by health care analysts.

Under Section 440, Liberty Counsel said, the government "will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families that expect children." And Section 194 provides for a program that has the government "coming into your house and teaching/telling you how to parent," LC said.

WND reported earlier when Betsy McCaughey, the former New York state officer, told former presidential candidate Fred Thompson during an interview on his radio program the health care plan includes consultations for seniors on how to die.

"One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session," she said. "They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner."

The proposal specifically calls for the consultation to recommend "palliative care and hospice" for seniors in their mandatory counseling sessions. Palliative care and hospice generally focus only on pain relief until death.

The measure requires "an explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available."
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« Reply #1288 on: July 31, 2009, 10:25:26 PM »

For the PDF Version:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

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http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt

Please read this so-called healthcare bill and see if you can understand why Congress will be EXEMPT and have their own much better coverage! THIS ISN'T A HEALTHCARE BILL - RATHER A COMMUNIST PARTY TAKEOVER BILL - JUST LIKE ALL PRIORITIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION!


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DEMAND THAT THE RULE OF LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION COMES FIRST!

THIS MEANS THAT A FREE COUNTRY STAYS FREE AND ALL OF THE COMMUNIST PLANS ARE TRASHED!

TELL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT NONE OF THIS COMMUNIST GARBAGE WILL BE TOLERATED!
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« Reply #1289 on: July 31, 2009, 10:32:29 PM »

I always guessed this would happen. Getting rid of old or disabled people.  Cry
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