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Wikipedia says Obama born in Kenya
Online encyclopedia can't make up its mind on president's birthplace
Posted: July 12, 2009
By Joe Kovacs
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Wikipedia just can't seem to make up its mind about where President Barack Obama was born.
The free, online encyclopedia written and edited entirely by its users this weekend displayed at least two countries the commander in chief may have been born in – the United States and Kenya.
WND documented how the entry for the "Early life and career of Barack Obama" changed numerous times.
This afternoon at 4:45 p.m. Eastern, Wikipedia said:
"Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, was born on August 4, 1961 in either Honolulu, in the state of Hawaii[1], or Mombasa, Kenya, to Barack Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) (born in Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Nyanza Province,[2] Kenya Colony, British Empire), and Ann Dunham (1942–1995) (born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas).[3][4] On his mother's side he has a half-sister; on his father's side, Obama has two half-sisters and five surviving half-brothers.[5]"
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Eligibility arguments to get court hearing
'For 1st time, we have a judge who's listening'
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Posted: July 13, 2009
9:52 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
In what ultimately could prove to be a turning point in the legal challenges to Barack Obama's eligibility to be president, a federal judge in California has planned a hearing on the merits of a federal court case raising those questions.
According to attorney Orly Taitz, who is working on multiple cases alleging Obama is a "usurper" because he doesn't meet the constitutional requirement that only a "natural born citizen" can be president, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter ruled in a hearing today that her case will move forward.
The hearing was on her motion for a default order against Obama, because although Taitz said she notified him of the action, Obama's attorneys did not make an appearance.
Her complaint was filed against the president on Jan. 20, the day of his inauguration, over his actions before he became president.
Taitz has told WND if her motion for default is granted she immediately would request access to Obama's birth records and other documentation that could determine his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
You can read the rest of the story on WND.
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Bombshell: Orders revoked
for soldier challenging prez
Major victory for Army warrior
questioning Obama's birthplace
A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has rescinded his impending deployment orders.
"We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, was scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m.
"As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is [my] duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a 'natural-born citizen,' he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief," he told WND only hours after the case was filed.
"[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said.
The order for the hearing in the federal court for the Middle District of Georgia from U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land said the hearing on the request for a temporary restraining order would be held Thursday.
Cook said without a legitimate president as commander-in-chief, members of the U.S. military in overseas actions could be determined to be "war criminals and subject to prosecution."
He said the vast array of information about Obama that is not available to the public confirms to him "something is amiss."
"That and the fact the individual who is occupying the White House has not been entirely truthful with anybody," he said. "Every time anyone has made an inquiry, it has been either cast aside, it has been maligned, it has been laughed at or just dismissed summarily without further investigation.
"You know what. It would be so simple to solve. Just produce the long-form document, certificate of live birth," he said.
Cook said he was scheduled to report for duty tomorrow, on July 15, to deploy to Afghanistan as part of President Obama's plan to increase pressure of insurgent forces there.
He told WND he would be prepared for a backlash against him as a military officer, since members of the military swear to uphold and follow their orders. However, he noted that following an illegal order would be just as bad as failing to follow a legal order.
Before news of the orders being revoked were reported, MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann tonight called Cook a "jackass" and Taitz a "conwoman," as he labeled both of them the "worst persons in the world." He flayed the soldier as "an embarrassment to all those who have served without cowardice."
Named as defendants in the case are Col. Wanda Good, Col. Thomas Macdonald, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Obama, described as "de facto president of the United States."
See the following link for the rest of this article:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009
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I don't see this as a major victory. Although it has set up precedent for others in the Military o follow suit if they so choose to do so it does nothing in the courts otherwise. It does not get obama removed from office nor does it get any charges against him to stick. That is the nature of basically declaring the 5th.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on July 15, 2009, 09:08:47 AM
I don't see this as a major victory. Although it has set up precedent for others in the Military o follow suit if they so choose to do so it does nothing in the courts otherwise. It does not get obama removed from office nor does it get any charges against him to stick. That is the nature of basically declaring the 5th.
It's at least a start, and there's more to come - MUCH MORE! Some of the general public is at least waking up now and starting to question things. The answers ARE going to be revealed sooner or later BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW!
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Can we expect anything less from a communistic dictator.
Pentagon orders soldier fired for challenging prez
Army warrior terminated from job after questioning Obama eligibility
The Department of Defense has compelled a private employer to fire a U.S. Army Reserve major from his civilian job after he had his military deployment orders revoked for arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
According to the CEO of Simtech Inc., a private company contracted by the Defense Security Services, an agency of the Department of Defense, the federal government has compelled the termination of Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook.
Cook's attorney, Orly Taitz, wrote in her blog that Simtech CEO Larry Grice said he would try to find another position within the company for Cook, but nothing is currently available.
The Department of Defense does contracting in the general field of information technology/systems integration, at which Cook, a senior systems engineer and architect, was employed until taking a military leave of absence on July 10 in preparation for his deployment to Afghanistan.
"Grice told plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become 'nutty and crazy,' and that plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old position," Taitz wrote.
Grice made clear that it was Defense Security Services that had compelled Simtech to fire Cook, Taitz wrote.
According to the report, Grice told Cook "there was some gossip that 'people were disappointed in' the plaintiff because they thought he was manipulating his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes."
The Simtech CEO then discussed Cook's expectation of final paychecks, without any severance pay, and wished the soldier well.
Messages left with Grice's office had not been returned at the time of this report.
"A federal agency (such as the Department of Defense, acting through the Defense Security Services Agency) clearly violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if it takes or fails to take (or threatens to take or fail to take) a personnel action with respect to any employee or applicant because of any disclosure of information by the employee or applicant that he or she reasonably believes evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety," Taitz wrote.
"What has happened in the present case of Stefan Frederick Cook is that a federal agency appears to have taken action against Stefan Frederick Cook's private employer, Simtech, Inc., which is a closely held corporation owned and operated by members of a single family, who are as much victims of the Department of Defense's heavy-handed interference with plaintiff Cook's private-sector employment as is plaintiff Cook himself."
As WND reported, Taitz confirmed to WND the military rescinded Maj. Cook's impending deployment orders.
"We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, is still scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m.
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The above is all illegal and Unconstitutional. The actions taken against a private employer and a private employee to arm-twist his firing WOULD MAKE STALIN PROUD! I would hope this case moves forward with ADDITIONAL ACTIONS.
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By Email: Please note that the link given may be swamped with people trying to get a copy.
General Information Forwarded:
For anyone interested in reading the healthcare bill, I have provided the link to the pdf version that you can read online. Please see the pages cited in red. For those, you must make your own interpretation. Please read for yourself and see what you think. I believe that it is the duty of all of our elected officials to read this bill thoroughly before they vote on anything and for the American people to have every opportunity to question any and everything contained herein. Please get involved, ask questions, demand representation and know what is in this bill. It is the only way to preserve our freedoms. If we allow things to be ramrodded through without any question or any protest, we will be forced to live with all consequences of that non action. Please distribute this message so that as many citizens as possible have the opportunity to read this. This is nothing short of tyranny.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
Excerpt Information:
But to the truth of this massive 1,107 page new series of US laws, it is to the other purposes that should chill these American people to their very core as these other purposes include:
All American citizens being ordered to have a National ID Card (page 58)
US government to have immediate access to every American citizens bank accounts (page 59)
All property owned by Doctors in the US to be determined by government (page 317)
All American citizens ordered to give the US government power of attorney over their living wills (page 425)
The US government given a new power to determine who and how their citizens die (page 427)
End of Life plan for each American citizen ordered by the government (page 429)
US government to decide on who, and who can't be married (page 489)"
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If you want the Healthcare Bill in plain text, use this link:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt
You will get this quicker if the servers are swamped.
I will provide copies of selected text in just a few minutes, but you really need to confirm this for yourself.
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Concerning
All American citizens being ordered to have a National ID Card (page 58)
US government to have immediate access to every American citizens bank accounts (page 59):
SEC. 163. ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION.
(a) Standardizing Electronic Administrative Transactions.--
(1) In general.--Part C of title XI of the Social Security
Act (42 U.S.C. 1320d et seq.) is amended by inserting after
section 1173 the following new section:
``SEC. 1173A. STANDARDIZE ELECTRONIC ADMINISTRATIVE TRANSACTIONS.
``(a) Standards for Financial and Administrative Transactions.--
``(1) In general.--The Secretary shall adopt and regularly
update standards consistent with the goals described in
paragraph (2).
``(2) Goals for financial and administrative
transactions.--The goals for standards under paragraph (1) are
that such standards shall--
``(A) be unique with no conflicting or redundant
standards;
``(B) be authoritative, permitting no additions or
constraints for electronic transactions, including
companion guides;
``(C) be comprehensive, efficient and robust,
requiring minimal augmentation by paper transactions or
clarification by further communications;
``(D) enable the real-time (or near real-time)
determination of an individual's financial
responsibility at the point of service and, to the
extent possible, prior to service, including whether
the individual is eligible for a specific service with
a specific physician at a specific facility, which may
include utilization of a machine-readable health plan
beneficiary identification card;
``(E) enable, where feasible, near real-time
adjudication of claims;
``(F) provide for timely acknowledgment, response,
and status reporting applicable to any electronic
transaction deemed appropriate by the Secretary;
``(G) describe all data elements (such as reason
and remark codes) in unambiguous terms, not permit
optional fields, require that data elements be either
required or conditioned upon set values in other
fields, and prohibit additional conditions; and
``(H) harmonize all common data elements across
administrative and clinical transaction standards.
``(3) Time for adoption.--Not later than 2 years after the
date of implementation of the X12 Version 5010 transaction
standards implemented under this part, the Secretary shall
adopt standards under this section.
``(4) Requirements for specific standards.--The standards
under this section shall be developed, adopted and enforced so
as to--
``(A) clarify, refine, complete, and expand, as
needed, the standards required under section 1173;
``(B) require paper versions of standardized
transactions to comply with the same standards as to
data content such that a fully compliant, equivalent
electronic transaction can be populated from the data
from a paper version;
``(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in order
to allow automated reconciliation with the related
health care payment and remittance advice;
``(D) require timely and transparent claim and
denial management processes, including tracking,
adjudication, and appeal processing;
``(E) require the use of a standard electronic
transaction with which health care providers may
quickly and efficiently enroll with a health plan to
conduct the other electronic transactions provided for
in this part; and
``(F) provide for other requirements relating to
administrative simplification as identified by the
Secretary, in consultation with stakeholders.
``(5) Building on existing standards.--In developing the
standards under this section, the Secretary shall build upon
existing and planned standards.
``(6) Implementation and enforcement.--Not later than 6
months after the date of the enactment of this section, the
Secretary shall submit to the appropriate committees of
Congress a plan for the implementation and enforcement, by not
later than 5 years after such date of enactment, of the
standards under this section. Such plan shall include--
``(A) a process and timeframe with milestones for
developing the complete set of standards;
``(B) an expedited upgrade program for continually
developing and approving additions and modifications to
the standards as often as annually to improve their
quality and extend their functionality to meet evolving
requirements in health care;
``(C) programs to provide incentives for, and ease
the burden of, implementation for certain health care
providers, with special consideration given to such
providers serving rural or underserved areas and ensure
coordination with standards, implementation
specifications, and certification criteria being
adopted under the HITECH Act;
``(D) programs to provide incentives for, and ease
the burden of, health care providers who volunteer to
participate in the process of setting standards for
electronic transactions;
``(E) an estimate of total funds needed to ensure
timely completion of the implementation plan; and
``(F) an enforcement process that includes timely
investigation of complaints, random audits to ensure
compliance, civil monetary and programmatic penalties
for non-compliance consistent with existing laws and
regulations, and a fair and reasonable appeals process
building off of enforcement provisions under this part.
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Concerning
All property owned by Doctors in the US to be determined by government (page 317)
``(1) Requirements described.--For purposes of subsection
(d)(3)(D), the requirements described in this paragraph are as
follows:
``(A) Provider agreement.--The hospital had--
``(i) physician ownership or investment on
January 1, 2009; and
``(ii) a provider agreement under section
1866 in effect on such date.
``(B) Prohibition on physician ownership or
investment.--The percentage of the total value of the
ownership or investment interests held in the hospital,
or in an entity whose assets include the hospital, by
physician owners or investors in the aggregate does not
exceed such percentage as of the date of enactment of
this subsection.
``(C) Prohibition on expansion of facility
capacity.--Except as provided in paragraph (2), the
number of operating rooms, procedure rooms, or beds of
the hospital at any time on or after the date of the
enactment of this subsection are no greater than the
number of operating rooms, procedure rooms, or beds,
respectively, as of such date.
``(D) Ensuring bona fide ownership and
investment.--
``(i) Any ownership or investment interests
that the hospital offers to a physician are not
offered on more favorable terms than the terms
offered to a person who is not in a position to
refer patients or otherwise generate business
for the hospital.
``(ii) The hospital (or any investors in
the hospital) does not directly or indirectly
provide loans or financing for any physician
owner or investor in the hospital.
``(iii) The hospital (or any investors in
the hospital) does not directly or indirectly
guarantee a loan, make a payment toward a loan,
or otherwise subsidize a loan, for any
physician owner or investor or group of
physician owners or investors that is related
to acquiring any ownership or investment
interest in the hospital.
``(iv) Ownership or investment returns are
distributed to each owner or investor in the
hospital in an amount that is directly
proportional to the ownership or investment
interest of such owner or investor in the
hospital.
``(v) The investment interest of the owner
or investor is directly proportional to the
owner's or investor's capital contributions
made at the time the ownership or investment
interest is obtained.
``(vi) Physician owners and investors do
not receive, directly or indirectly, any
guaranteed receipt of or right to purchase
other business interests related to the
hospital, including the purchase or lease of
any property under the control of other owners
or investors in the hospital or located near
the premises of the hospital.
``(vii) The hospital does not offer a
physician owner or investor the opportunity to
purchase or lease any property under the
control of the hospital or any other owner or
investor in the hospital on more favorable
terms than the terms offered to a person that
is not a physician owner or investor.
``(viii) The hospital does not condition
any physician ownership or investment interests
either directly or indirectly on the physician
owner or investor making or influencing
referrals to the hospital or otherwise
generating business for the hospital.
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This is definitely not a health care bill. THIS IS A BILL THAT ATTEMPTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL, TAKING ANY POWER OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE AND GIVING IT ALL TO THE GOVERNMENT!
IT IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL AND ALL SHOULD BE DONE TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING PASSED!
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Concerning End of Life Tyrannical Conditions:
All American citizens ordered to give the US government power of attorney over their living wills (page 425)
The US government given a new power to determine who and how their citizens die (page 427)
End of Life plan for each American citizen ordered by the government (page 429)
SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION.
(a) Medicare.--
(1) In general.--Section 1861 of the Social Security Act
(42 U.S.C. 1395x) is amended--
(A) in subsection (s)(2)--
(i) by striking ``and'' at the end of
subparagraph (DD);
(ii) by adding ``and'' at the end of
subparagraph (EE); and
(iii) by adding at the end the following
new subparagraph:
``(FF) advance care planning consultation (as defined in
subsection (hhh)(1));''; and
(B) by adding at the end the following new
subsection:
``Advance Care Planning Consultation
``(hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term `advance
care planning consultation' means a consultation between the individual
and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care
planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has not
had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation
shall include the following:
``(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care
planning, including key questions and considerations, important
steps, and suggested people to talk to.
``(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance
directives, including living wills and durable powers of
attorney, and their uses.
``(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and
responsibilities of a health care proxy.
``(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list of
national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and
their families with advance care planning, including the
national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning
clearinghouses, and State legal service organizations
(including those funded through the Older Americans Act of
1965).
``(E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum
of end-of-life services and supports available, including
palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and
supports that are available under this title.
``(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of orders
regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, which
shall include--
``(I) the reasons why the development of such an
order is beneficial to the individual and the
individual's family and the reasons why such an order
should be updated periodically as the health of the
individual changes;
``(II) the information needed for an individual or
legal surrogate to make informed decisions regarding
the completion of such an order; and
``(III) the identification of resources that an
individual may use to determine the requirements of the
State in which such individual resides so that the
treatment wishes of that individual will be carried out
if the individual is unable to communicate those
wishes, including requirements regarding the
designation of a surrogate decisionmaker (also known as
a health care proxy).
``(ii) The Secretary shall limit the requirement for
explanations under clause (i) to consultations furnished in a
State--
``(I) in which all legal barriers have been
addressed for enabling orders for life sustaining
treatment to constitute a set of medical orders
respected across all care settings; and
``(II) that has in effect a program for orders for
life sustaining treatment described in clause (iii).
``(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining treatment
for a States described in this clause is a program that--
``(I) ensures such orders are standardized and
uniquely identifiable throughout the State;
``(II) distributes or makes accessible such orders
to physicians and other health professionals that
(acting within the scope of the professional's
authority under State law) may sign orders for life
sustaining treatment;
``(III) provides training for health care
professionals across the continuum of care about the
goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment;
and
``(IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders
includes representatives from emergency medical
services, emergency department physicians or nurses,
state long-term care association, state medical
association, state surveyors, agency responsible for
senior services, state department of health, state
hospital association, home health association, state
bar association, and state hospice association.
``(2) A practitioner described in this paragraph is--
``(A) a physician (as defined in subsection (r)(1)); and
``(B) a nurse practitioner or physician's assistant who has
the authority under State law to sign orders for life
sustaining treatments.
``(3)(A) An initial preventive physical examination under
subsection (WW), including any related discussion during such
examination, shall not be considered an advance care planning
consultation for purposes of applying the 5-year limitation under
paragraph (1).
``(B) An advance care planning consultation with respect to an
individual may be conducted more frequently than provided under
paragraph (1) if there is a significant change in the health condition
of the individual, including diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life-
limiting disease, a life-threatening or terminal diagnosis or life-
threatening injury, or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a
long-term care facility (as defined by the Secretary), or a hospice
program.
``(4) A consultation under this subsection may include the
formulation of an order regarding life sustaining treatment or a
similar order.
``(5)(A) For purposes of this section, the term `order regarding
life sustaining treatment' means, with respect to an individual, an
actionable medical order relating to the treatment of that individual
that--
``(i) is signed and dated by a physician (as defined in
subsection (r)(1)) or another health care professional (as
specified by the Secretary and who is acting within the scope
of the professional's authority under State law in signing such
an order, including a nurse practitioner or physician
assistant) and is in a form that permits it to stay with the
individual and be followed by health care professionals and
providers across the continuum of care;
``(ii) effectively communicates the individual's
preferences regarding life sustaining treatment, including an
indication of the treatment and care desired by the individual;
``(iii) is uniquely identifiable and standardized within a
given locality, region, or State (as identified by the
Secretary); and
``(iv) may incorporate any advance directive (as defined in
section 1866(f)(3)) if executed by the individual.
``(B) The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii)
may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to
limit some or all or specified interventions. Such indicated levels of
treatment may include indications respecting, among other items--
``(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the patient
is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac or pulmonary
problems;
``(ii) the individual's desire regarding transfer to a
hospital or remaining at the current care setting;
``(iii) the use of antibiotics; and
``(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and
hydration.''.
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US government to decide on who, and who can't be married (page 489)"
This is long, confusing, and it refers to other documents and laws. You'll have to read it for yourself and see if you want to put forth the effort and time to find out what is really being said.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on July 27, 2009, 04:28:52 PM
This is definitely not a health care bill. THIS IS A BILL THAT ATTEMPTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL, TAKING ANY POWER OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE AND GIVING IT ALL TO THE GOVERNMENT!
IT IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL AND ALL SHOULD BE DONE TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING PASSED!
You're right. Brother, all I can say is that from what I've read, Stalin would be proud of this legislation. Trying to read the entire bill is a trip into FASCIST COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM.
NO AMERICAN AND CERTAINLY NO REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD TOLERATE ANY OF THIS GARBAGE! THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP IN TURNING THE ENTIRE COUNTRY INTO A CONCENTRATION CAMP!
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