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dear everybody
for a christian is killing justifiable?
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since this is a quick question I will reply quickly
Yes. Murder is not.
If the intention of this post was to insight a debate of whether or not war and such are just. Let me remind everyone of the most faithful person in Israel was the Roman Centurion. Jesus did not rebuke him telling him to leave the army or anything of that nature.
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In time of war, threat, to life or limb, yes killing is allowed. As Brother Jerry said, murder is not.
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Let me emphasize that the taking of a life is not a "good" thing under any circumstances but it is sometimes a necessary thing. We see this lesson being given to us throughout the Bible both in the Old Testament and the New.
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Quote from: chiachoonyang on September 25, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
dear everybody
for a christian is killing justifiable?
Killing under certain circumstances is justifiable for anyone.
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What should Christian feel about Capital Punishment?
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I disagree with it because I think murderers should have a chance to know God
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Quote from: David_james on October 12, 2007, 06:38:23 PM
I disagree with it because I think murderers should have a chance to know God
You will get no argument from me, on that brother.
The older members know already. What most of the forum doesn't know is my first wife was killed by a murderer. I brought him to Christ, he is now asst. Pastor of the prison he is in. I'm not sure where he is, because he has been moved. Before he was moved, I recieved a call from him, every two weeks. I also use to visit him in prison.
Though there will be several that will disagree with you on this. Though the others also think that murderers, should have a chance to know God.
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When I wrote the last reply, my thoughts were on your wife's murderer. I am glad he found Jesus and can tell others about Jesus.
((dw)) <--- that is a hug
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Quote from: David_james on October 12, 2007, 06:38:23 PM
I disagree with it because I think murderers should have a chance to know God
They had that chance before they committed murder, and they will still have that chance before they are executed--if they ever are. Many are on death row for years filing appeal after appeal after appeal. I have no sympathy for murderers. My sympathy is for their victim and the victim's family.
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Quote from: Jon-Marc on October 13, 2007, 03:16:31 PM
They had that chance before they committed murder, and they will still have that chance before they are executed--if they ever are. Many are on death row for years filing appeal after appeal after appeal. I have no sympathy for murderers. My sympathy is for their victim and the victim's family.
I have sympathy. I don't hate them because if I do, I would be hating a brother or sister if they came to Christ .
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If it was for the word of God i will take it patiently,
if it's just someone who wants to rape or hurt my family for money or some other stupid
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I will kill to protect them!
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Quote from: Littleboy on October 13, 2007, 08:59:45 PM
If it was for the word of God i will take it patiently,
if it's just someone who wants to rape or hurt my family for money or some other stupid
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I will kill to protect them!
I would too
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Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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I think it's wonderful that you could forgive you wife's killer and lead him to God. That is a wonderful testimony!
However, everyday we read of child abuse, molestation and child rape. I'm sorry but my feelings are I want them dead. I cannot imagine what those little children went through and more than any other sin I feel it is unforgivable. If they are forgiven of God before execution then I will have plenty of time to love them in Heaven. Until then I think we have a duty to make examples of them, through death, so they will know that it is unacceptable. Studies have shown that those that hurt children will not change. They will continue to do it until they are stopped. I for one do not want to support their sorry lives in prison and as I said before I think we need to set a precedence that it will not be tolerated.
I don't know why I can agree that all should have the chance to come to Lord and be forgiven even in the case of Jeffery Daumer (sp?) but to torture a child, NO.
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Do you hate dw's wife's murderer? If you do then you call Jesus a liar. Also wishing someone dead is hating.
Matthew 5 :44 But I say, love your enemies!
Pray for those who persecute you! 45 In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47 If you are kind only to your friends,[t] how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.
1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates another Christian* is really a murderer at heart. And you know that murderers don’t have eternal life within them.
1 John 4: 20 If someone says, “I love God,” but hates a Christian brother or sister,* that person is a liar; for if we don’t love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we have not seen? 21 And God himself has commanded that we must love not only him but our Christian brothers and sisters, too
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Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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