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« Reply #225 on: April 26, 2008, 10:08:14 PM »

Hello Pastor Roger,

I second the thanks for the excellent article. Does COMMON SENSE have a chance to prevail on this issue? Is it actually possible that we can prevent Al Gore and his friends from stealing all this money with their con game? I don't know yet.
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« Reply #226 on: April 28, 2008, 09:41:41 AM »

Ecochondria is not new

Check out these snippets from Life, Jan 30, 1970 (a copy of which was found in an antique store). At the time "solid experimental and theoretical evidence" supported the assertion increased atmospheric carbon dioxide would lead to "mass flooding or a new ice age" and air pollution would reduce the amount of sunlight reaching Earth’s surface by one-half. Not just that but by the ’80s urbanites would require gas masks to survive air pollution and sonic booms from SSTs would damage children in utero.








Guess there really is nothing new under the sun. Funny how little the doom brigade have changed over the years, isn’t it? Even funnier how the media keep publishing their nonsense.

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« Reply #227 on: April 28, 2008, 10:35:15 AM »

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Ecochondria is not new

Check out these snippets from Life, Jan 30, 1970 (a copy of which was found in an antique store). At the time "solid experimental and theoretical evidence" supported the assertion increased atmospheric carbon dioxide would lead to "mass flooding or a new ice age" and air pollution would reduce the amount of sunlight reaching Earth’s surface by one-half. Not just that but by the ’80s urbanites would require gas masks to survive air pollution and sonic booms from SSTs would damage children in utero.

YES - Brother Roger! Great hosts of us remember this story well - with or without the documentation. It was a topic that everyone was talking about at the time, and nobody was laughing because the GREAT SCIENTISTS of the world told us it was going to happen. In our part of the country, the biggest talk was about the coming ICE AGE. If it happened, it wasn't on this planet.    Grin   Grin
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« Reply #228 on: April 28, 2008, 01:06:23 PM »

Unfortunately many people out of convenience don't have that kind of memory and the younger ones are never told about it, again for the sake of their own convenience in order to substantiate their agendas and now we have more scientists that again are claiming a coming ice age. Only this time it is caused by global warming.



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« Reply #229 on: April 28, 2008, 01:22:15 PM »

Unfortunately many people out of convenience don't have that kind of memory and the younger ones are never told about it, again for the sake of their own convenience in order to substantiate their agendas and now we have more scientists that again are claiming a coming ice age. Only this time it is caused by global warming.





 Grin   Grin   ROFL!

I think that I'll become a scientist. More heat causing ice makes sense to me.    Huh
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« Reply #230 on: April 28, 2008, 09:09:33 PM »

Grin   Grin   ROFL!

I think that I'll become a scientist. More heat causing ice makes sense to me.    Huh

Me too!  From the looks of it, you don't have to have an education!  These guys obviously got theirs out of a Cracker Jack box!
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« Reply #231 on: April 28, 2008, 09:35:32 PM »

And I'll add further; if this is the education of our scientists, were they really smart enough to land us on the moon?  Um....makes me wonder.  Their 1 + 1 doesn't seem to add up.  Their "science" sounds more like "science fiction".
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« Reply #232 on: April 29, 2008, 06:46:28 AM »

Their "science" sounds more like "science fiction".

Yep, that's because that is where the money is.

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« Reply #233 on: April 30, 2008, 11:19:30 AM »

Global Waming causes.. Acne?

I stumbled upon an interesting page which claims to be a complete list of all the things people claim are caused by global warming.

Each item on the list links back to an actual article or news story which makes the claim. Note how many opposites there are (Earth spins slower/faster, fish shrink/grow, expansion/shrinkage of rain forests).

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm


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« Reply #234 on: April 30, 2008, 11:44:57 AM »

Hello Pastor Roger,

Thanks Brother! - This was fascinating, and I think that Al Gore should be forced to study it until he understands and can explain it.   Grin
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« Reply #235 on: May 04, 2008, 09:50:10 AM »

Does 'climate change' mean 'changing data'?
NASA temperature figures show agency reworking recent numbers upwards, older numbers downwards

Methodology used by NASA to estimate rates of climate change are resulting in dramatic shifts in previously published historical temperature data, causing figures for estimated global surface temperature prior to 1970 to now be lower and figures since 1970 to now be higher – and appearing to provide evidence for those who say the Earth is warming.

John Goetz, writing last month in the science blog Climate Audit, analyzed the way NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies calculates estimated global surface temperatures and showed that the addition of new, contemporary data could "have a ripple effect all the way back to the beginning of a [weather] station's history."

Goetz found 32 different versions of published global annual averages going back to Sept. 24, 2005, that showed the published figures – figures used as a baseline to demonstrate change through time – changing hundreds of times.

"On average 20% of the historical record was modified 16 times in the last 2 1/2 years," he wrote. "The largest single jump was 0.27 °C. This occurred between the Oct. 13, 2006 and Jan. 15, 2007 records when Aug 2006 changed from an anomoly of +0.43 °C to +0.70 °C, a change of nearly 68 percent."

Temperature anomalies – differences between the average measured global air temperature and some long-term mean – are primary data for studies of climate change.

The magnitude of the changes in the reworked historical data observed by Goetz – 0.27 °C – is more that a third of the total average increase in global air temperature near the Earth's surface – 0.74 ± 0.18 °C – that has occurred over the last century, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

A comparison of annual temperature anomalies for the United States from 1880 to 1999 further revealed that shifts in historical estimates of temperature, since NASA refined its data for the period 1930 to 1999, are biased toward global warming.

Steven Goddard, writing in The Register, analyzed two different NASA reports of historic temperature anomalies – published in 1999 and 2007 – and showed estimates for years in the 1930s through 1970 were lowered while estimates for years from 1970 to 1999 were increased between the two reporting periods. The results, when graphed, described a temperature regime that was cooler than previously thought prior to 1970 and warmer than thought since – precisely what advocates of global warming argue but what earlier renditions of the data did not say so clearly.

That, said Goddard, defied statistical odds.

"So what is the probability of this effort consistently increasing recent temperatures and decreasing older temperatures? From a statistical viewpoint, data recalculation should cause each year to have a 50/50 probability of going either up or down – thus the odds of all 70 adjusted years working in concert to increase the slope of the graph are an astronomical 2 raised to the power of 70. That is one-thousand-billion-billion to one. This isn't an exact representation of the odds because for some of the years (less than 15) the revisions went against the trend – but even a 55/15 split is about as likely as a room full of chimpanzees eventually typing Hamlet. That would be equivalent to flipping a penny 70 times and having it come up heads 55 times. It will never happen – one trillion to one odds (2 raised to the power 40).

"Particularly troubling are the years from 1986-1998. In the 2007 version of the graph, the 1986 data was adjusted upwards by 0.4 degrees relative to the 1999 graph. In fact, every year except one from 1986-1998 was adjusted upwards, by an average of 0.2 degrees. If someone wanted to present a case for a lot of recent warming, adjusting data upwards would be an excellent way to do it.

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NASA is not the only source of long-term temperature data used to evaluate climate change. Like NASA, the UK Meteorological Office's Hadley Center for Climate Studies depends on a network of ground-based weather stations using thermometers. Both are limited by their number of stations, the heat-island effects on many of the sites located in urban areas, changes in thermometer types over time and the loss of station sites over the historical periods being measured. Data gathered from these systems often has to be adjusted to remove "noise" caused by the local environment so it can be standardized for analysis.

The University of Alabama at Huntsville and Remote Sensing Systems provide data gathered by Earth-observation satellites. Satellite temperature data has the advantage of being gathered across the entire surface of the Earth, except for regions near the two poles, but it is unavailable for the period prior to 1978.

How do these other data sources compare to NASA?

According to Hadley's data, worldwide temperatures have declined since 1998 and the Earth is not much warmer now than it was than it was in 1878 or 1941.

Both the UAH and RSS satellite data agree with Hadley and show temperatures declining over the past decade with only a slight increase above the 30-year average between 1978 and 2008.

More recently, NASA temperatures indicated March 2008 was the third-warmest March in history. RSS and UAH showed the same month as only slightly above average globally and the second-coldest ever in the southern hemisphere.

As WND has previously reported James Hansen, head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, warned in 2006 "we have a very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change ... no longer than a decade, at the most" – the same week the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued a report saying the U.S.'s hottest year was in the past, 1936.

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http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...mp;pageId=63360
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« Reply #236 on: May 04, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »

UM?  -  It sure does sound like a massive con game is going to be tried UNLESS the real scientists are able to debunk the lies that are being told. YES - the real scientists can do this, but I doubt they have the money necessary to play the news media blitz game with the rich and powerful people who are determined to go forward with the most massive and costly con game in history.

If I remember correctly, the con men are spending 300 million dollars to sell their lies. Their prize will be over 35 BILLION DOLLARS, and we should all be able to easily figure out where this money will come from.
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« Reply #238 on: May 04, 2008, 09:36:09 PM »



Oops!  Did hell freeze over?
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« Reply #239 on: May 05, 2008, 11:55:53 AM »

Media frauds trip themselves up

North Pole fables: “On the NBC nightly news there was a heart-throb report of an attractive British teen-ager who had skied across the North Pole with her father to demonstrate how the Arctic ice pack is receding in the face of global warming. Oh, horror. Oh, how terrible. The pictures were beautiful: Her pretty face, her gentle smile, her soft voice, her snow-crusted parka, the blue skies, the brilliant white ice, the cascading chunks of ice calving from glaciers, the two penguins standing on an ice floe…. Wait a minute. Penguins? At the North Pole? Not that we ever heard of. So much for science, as reported by NBC News.

For any products of a modern education reading here, the South Pole has penguins but no bears and the North pole has bears but no penguins.

The young girl was also complaining about 40 below F in the middle of the day in summer with wind chills far below that.

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