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Quote from: Pastor Roger on May 05, 2008, 11:55:53 AM
Media frauds trip themselves up
North Pole fables: “On the NBC nightly news there was a heart-throb report of an attractive British teen-ager who had skied across the North Pole with her father to demonstrate how the Arctic ice pack is receding in the face of global warming. Oh, horror. Oh, how terrible. The pictures were beautiful: Her pretty face, her gentle smile, her soft voice, her snow-crusted parka, the blue skies, the brilliant white ice, the cascading chunks of ice calving from glaciers, the two penguins standing on an ice floe…. Wait a minute. Penguins? At the North Pole? Not that we ever heard of. So much for science, as reported by NBC News.
For any products of a modern education reading here, the South Pole has penguins but no bears and the North pole has bears but no penguins.
The young girl was also complaining about 40 below F in the middle of the day in summer with wind chills far below that.
That's a classic PR!
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You know, I was thinking............... again..............
There will be a global warming, later on. In
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And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
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And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
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You know, I was thinking............... again..............
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Wow DW! That's pretty impressive! How long did it take ya? I guess these no end to what you can do if you really put your mind to it!
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Quote from: grammyluv on May 08, 2008, 05:47:47 PM
Wow DW! That's pretty impressive! How long did it take ya? I guess these no end to what you can do if you really put your mind to it!
About a minute, and a minute to post.
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'We are going to tell you about global warming … you horrible people'
Posted: May 09, 2008
12:00 am Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Students at a California public school have written a series of letters to Chicago's Heartland Institute, which works to discover and develop free-market solutions to society's problems, attacking its members for "destroying our planet" by refusing to endorse the politics of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" film.
According to students in the sixth-grade class of teacher Michael Steria at David A. Brown Middle School, the institute consists of "fools" and "horrible people."
"I think your (sic) fools for denying G.W. you know it could kill us all & you're just adding to it. I want you to help stop G.W. not increase it,"
said one letter.
"We are going to tell you about global warming. I don't care if you don't want to read, but I'm making you read it you horrible people," said another.
Officials at the school, a part of the Lake Elsinore School District, declined to respond to WND requests for a comment. Officials at the district office also declined to respond.
But Maureen Martin, a senior fellow for legal affairs for the institute, told WND that it was heart-breaking to see the results of such indoctrination of students.
"It's tragic," she said. "The kids were terrified."
She said some of the students expressed their belief they would be dead in 10 years.
The district's allowance of such teachings is "shameful, especially when there's a divide in the scientific opinion," she said.
She said the lessons reflected probably don't even meet the requirements of the state's educational guidelines, which for sixth graders demand lessons in earth sciences and the scientific methods of examining data.
Among the students' other comments:
* "We feel that it is wrong what you are doing. We know that you know that global warming is NOT we repeat NOT a myth, And we think it is selfish that you would take money over yours and your peers lives."
* "We feel upset because you are making Global Warming worse instead of helping it. We know that almost half of the country knows that G.W. is a crisis. We know that you could help the environment with the $800,000 you have."
* "We feel that they are destroying our planet by saying G.W. is not a crisis. You think GW is not a crisis but it is; you know deep down that it's a real thing that's happening. Everyone has a part in helping GW, and you're making worse."
* "I do not think that what you are doing is right because you are telling people that global warming is not a crisis. If this is not a crisis, how come floods have occurred in asia, Mexico, and India. Plus, how can you explain why the glacier glaciers are melting. they can't melt themselves, because they are in the coldest region in the world."
Martin told WND that by searching the Internet for key phrases used by the students, she was able to read seven of the 10 articles the students reported reading.
"Three of the articles have nothing to do with global warming or greenhouse gases. Two are dire predictions from non-scientists at the United Nations disaster relief agency, the U.N. Development Programme, and nongovernmental organizations engaged in disaster aid. One article relates state efforts at monitoring greenhouse gases," she said.
One other was an attack on Heartland for its funding procedures, accusing the organization of selling out to energy corporations.
But Institute chief Joseph Bast said such donations never have amounted to more than 5 percent of the organization's budget and more money comes in from individuals than from companies.
The facts, however, mattered little to the students doing the assignment.
"I am very unhappy with your disgracing actions to the world, because you guys and woman are trying to hide the facts about Global warming so you can make more money. Well you guys aren’t going to fool anybody except yourself. The reason is because if you were to look at a picture of Glacier National Park 50 years ago, you would see that there is less ice now then there was fifty years ago," said one letter.
Martin told WND one of the articles apparently came from a blog and condemned the organization's March conference in New York, which assembled hundreds of scientists and others who are skeptical of Al Gore's belief in the earth-threatening capabilities of temperature change, and his affirmation that man is at fault for whatever changes there are.
One phrase that appeared was "global warming denier group," which also had been used earlier on a critical blog article headlined, "Global Warming Denier Group Funded By Big Oil Hosting Climate Change Denial Conference."
"No. 1, no matter what people think, those who disagree ought not to be vilified," Martin said. "More than that, schools are supposed to be teaching kids about evaluating information. It's a life skill. We deal with it as citizens every day of our lives."
In this case, however, the students reflect teaching that tells them anyone who disagrees is "wrong and evil."
Martin said she currently is working on a project for Heartland to address what the United Kingdom determined was propaganda in the Gore film, and present balancing information to public school classrooms whose students now often are shown the Gore production.
"We're looking for parents, taxpayers, in the right situations. We're prepared to go to the schools and make a demand for equal time. We're not trying to stifle anything," she said.
What about the California school?
"I wrote to the superintendent. I said I'd be willing to provide information, DVDs, printed material, a book, we can send speakers… I haven't heard back yet," she said.
Such teaching, however, raises huge concerns.
"Global warming 'means that if we don't fix the climate, everything will be destroyed and we won't be able to survive,' two students wrote. Others found their global warming lessons similarly frightening," Martin wrote.
The students also left no room for discussion of the scientific issue.
"We've read article about global warming. And we know all the facts," said one, while another added, "Natural disasters have quadrupled in 20 years, 53 bird species face extinction, World must fix climate in 10 years, Air pollution shrinks fetus size. THIS IS CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING!!!" said another.
When the Heartland Institute held its conference in New York in March, WND reported more than 100 internationally prominent environmental scientists argued that global warming is, instead, a natural process and not the result of human activity.
"The purpose of the conference is to provide a platform for the hundreds of scientists, economists, and policy experts who dissent from the so-called 'consensus' on global warming," said Bast.
"Is global warming 'An Inconvenient Truth,' as Vice President Al Gore charges, or a 'Global Warming Swindle?' Harriet Johnson, spokeswoman for the Heartland Institute asked in a statement distributed at the conference.
"The alarmists in the global warming debate have had their say – over and over again, in every newspaper in the country practically every day and in countless news reports and documentary films," a notice on the Heartland Institute website said. "But they have lost the debate."
In one of the papers released, environmental scientist S. Fred Singer's "Nature, Not Human Activity Rules the Climate" summarized a three-year international scientific research project conducted by the Nongovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or NIPCC.
He said the climate is affected by many factors, but what can be ruled out by scientific evidence is that greenhouse gases are an important factor in causing global warming.
Yup, that our kids of today.
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Yup, that our kids of today.
It is not the fault of the kids of today but rather it is because of the teachers insisting on indoctrinating children instead of teaching them.
But Maureen Martin, a senior fellow for legal affairs for the institute, told WND that it was heart-breaking to see the results of such indoctrination of students.
"It's tragic," she said. "The kids were terrified."
She said some of the students expressed their belief they would be dead in 10 years.
The district's allowance of such teachings is "shameful, especially when there's a divide in the scientific opinion," she said.
Yes, it is tragic that political indoctrination does this to kids.
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BLUNTLY - Al Gore's Global Warming con game is nothing but a
HUGE HOAX
- one where quite a few rich people will steal 36 Billion Plus from average working people. It won't accomplish a single thing or address a single problem.
In fact, their con game will cause all kinds of new problems OVER AND ABOVE THE HUGE SWINDLE!
The con game will remove money that would have been used for necessities by many families.
NEWS FLASH! - GOD is in charge of the climates. GOD will change them according to HIS time and purpose. Man has no control over the sun or GOD. A time of GOD'S Wrath may be nearing called the Tribulation Period, and no power in the Universe will be able to slow, hasten, or stop it. It will happen precisely at GOD'S Appointed Time that was set before the foundation of the world.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on May 09, 2008, 10:26:37 AM
It is not the fault of the kids of today but rather it is because of the teachers insisting on indoctrinating children instead of teaching them.
That's not want I met, but I'm was wrong about all kids, thus. It's very tragic like you said.
Quote from: blackeyedpeas on May 09, 2008, 10:41:21 AM
BLUNTLY - Al Gore's Global Warming con game is nothing but a
HUGE HOAX
- one where quite a few rich people will steal 36 Billion Plus from average working people. It won't accomplish a single thing or address a single problem.
In fact, their con game will cause all kinds of new problems OVER AND ABOVE THE HUGE SWINDLE!
The con game will remove money that would have been used for necessities by many families.
NEWS FLASH! - GOD is in charge of the climates. GOD will change them according to HIS time and purpose. Man has no control over the sun or GOD. A time of GOD'S Wrath may be nearing called the Tribulation Period, and no power in the Universe will be able to slow, hasten, or stop it. It will happen precisely at GOD'S Appointed Time that was set before the foundation of the world.
Amen!
Sadly, most of these people are not thinking "what to think".
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An excellent article that gives one real confidence in our scientists and environmentalists. The article gives information provided to various media by some well known geologists of their times as well as the claim to an ice age given by environmentalist at the first Earth Day, April 22, 1970.
Fire and Ice By R. Warren Anderson, Research Analyst and Dan Gainor, The Boone Pickens Free Market Fellow
Following is a time line of articles posted in two well-known news papers that is excerpted from this article.
A New York Times-line
Sept. 18, 1924 “MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age”
March 27, 1933 “America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776;
Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise”
May 21, 1975 “Scientists Ponder Why World’s Climate is
Changing; A Major Cooling Widely
Considered to Be Inevitable”
Dec. 27, 2005 “Past Hot Times Hold Few Reasons to Relax
About New Warming”
A Time Magazine Time-line
Sept. 10, 1923 “The discoveries of changes in the sun’s heat
and the southward advance of glaciers in
recent years have given rise to conjectures of the
possible advent of a new ice age.”
Jan. 2, 1939 “Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when
they were boys are quite right... weather men have
no doubt that the world at least for the time being is
growing warmer.”
June 24, 1974 “Climatological Cassandras are becoming
increasingly apprehensive, for the weather
aberrations they are studying may be the
harbinger of another ice age.”
The entire article is a blast. It shows the fallacies of climate change enthusiasts. I can't link to the article because of advertising and donations requests but I'm sure you can find numerous copies of it by doing a web search on the title.
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Quote from: Pizza_Mahal on May 09, 2008, 10:14:32 AM
The district's allowance of such teachings is "shameful, especially when there's a divide in the scientific opinion," she said.
This is a big statement and could apply to more than just what is taught about global warming in our schools.
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Revelation 8:1
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
For further study - Revelation 8:1-13
As we come to another chapter in the book of Revelation, we move into the second set of seven judgments, the seven "trumpet judgments". Actually the last of the seven "seal judgments" is found also in chapter 8, verse 1.
The seven "trumpet judgments" come out of the last "seal judgment" as is the case with the seven "vial judgments" coming out of the last, seventh, "trumpet judgment".
Notice that the seventh "seal judgment" is "silence in heaven about the space of half an hour", verse 1. The reason for the "silence", I believe, is because the "great cloud of witnesses", Hebrews 12:1, is "awestruck" by the six previous "seal judgments" and the seven "trumpet judgments" to follow.
I would like for you to notice what has been termed "ecological judgment" will be released on the earth in these first four "trumpet judgments". The fact is, we hear alot about "global warming" and "climate change" in the media these days.
I believe "global warming" is impossible because Jesus Christ created the heavens, the earth and all that is in them, Colossians 1:16, and He holds it all together, Colossians 1:17.
God is in charge and nothing can happen to this "earth" unless He allows it to. No act of man can overrule God's plan. However, as our text tells us, there will be "ecological judgments" upon the earth during the time of the seven year Tribulation Period in the future.
The first "trumpet judgment" is a third part of the trees and all the grass on earth burning up. "Trumpet" number two is a third of the sea turning to blood, one-third of the fish in the sea dying and one-third of the ships upon the seas being destroyed.
Next, the third "trumpet" judgment, is one-third of the rivers, ponds, lakes and fountains of water becoming bitter, so much so that many on the earth will die from drinking this water. The judgments now shift to the heavens, the sun, moon and stars lose one-third of their light and their is more darkness than usual upon the earth, which is the fourth "trumpet" judgment.
Verse 13 reveals that from here, continuing into the Tribulation Period, it gets worse. The three "woes" are to follow. which are the last three "trumpet judgments". We'll look at the "woes" in another devotional reading.
We all must make it a point to give out the gospel to lost people every day. The Rapture could happen, today.
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The Bible and 'global warming'
I can certainly understand why neo-pagans like Al Gore believe, despite overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary, man-made, catastrophic global warming is the gravest threat to the planet.
What I can't understand is why people who claim to believe in the Bible as the inerrant, inspired Word of God do so.
Even more difficult to comprehend is why some evangelical Christians are caught up in the notion that government and international action are the proper methods to fight this phantom threat.
First of all, in Genesis 8:22, we're told of a promise by God never to use global floodwaters again as a means of destroying life on Earth. In that promise, the Bible explicitly states: "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."
In other words, no more cataclysmic floods – the result Al Gore promises in the near future as a consequence of global warming. Just as importantly, there is another promise there that cold and heat shall not cease.
What does that mean?
It means God controls the world's temperature, not man. God controls the climate, not man. God controls the earth's "eco-system," not man. God controls our environment, not man.
It is so presumptuous and haughty of believers and non-believers alike to think man is in control of the destiny of the planet God created for us.
If it were so, would he not have warned us? With all of the prophecies in the Bible, should we not expect to be told that such matters are actually in our hands? Why would we be told exactly the opposite throughout scripture?
It's not that the Bible tells us there are no consequences for our actions on the planet. In fact, it quite explicitly does. But it is not the production of carbon dioxide that God finds offensive. It is the commission of sin. Nowhere in the Bible does God ever suggest that producing CO2 is sinful.
Keep in mind, it is not a pollutant. It is a naturally occurring gas – just like oxygen. God created CO2, not man. And nature's God still produces a lot more of it than does man.
In Isaiah 49, in a passage evangelicals believe represent the words of Jesus Himself, there is another promise – that those who follow Him would never perish from the heat of the sun.
"They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor the sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them," it says in Isaiah 49:10.
If cataclysmic global warming represented a real threat to believers, would God have made such a promise through Isaiah?
That is not to say heat will never be used as a means of judgment. In fact, it will be according to the Bible.
We are told in:
Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
What this means is that scorching heat will be used as a judgment against non-believers, and, most importantly, that God and God alone has the power over such calamities.
Yes, there will come a time when the Earth is destroyed – and intense heat will be the mechanism God employs. But we are not talking about a rise of a few degrees over centuries. We're talking about heat so severe it melts the very elements that comprise the Earth.
That comes in a day that sounds very much like the time in which we live. It is described in 2 Peter 3:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
Are today's evangelicals who agree with the worldly that the greatest threat to mankind is represented in catastrophic, man-made global warming without spot and blameless?
It is sheer folly and ego for man to believe he controls the destiny of God's creation. But it is even more disgraceful when those who claim to believe His Word preach a false gospel of global warming that directly contradicts the entire body of scripture.
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