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« Reply #615 on: November 03, 2009, 09:42:37 AM »

Hmmmmm

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

Jonah 2:5-6 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head. 6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

God talks, and man still doesn't listen to God. The proof has been in the Bible for 2,000 years. Even man discovers something new, God has talked about it in the Bible.



Ancient Truth from God's Word that man is just now discovering! I love things like this that humble man, especially those who mock God and His Word. As for me, I love the beauty of God's Truth that He has revealed to us. The day will come when He will reveal much more, and all will be beyond our imagination.

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« Reply #616 on: November 20, 2009, 01:10:18 PM »

Hacked e-mails show global-warming fraud?
Top climate-research center confirms authenticity of data posted on Internet

Officials at a key global warming research center in the United Kingdom are authenticating a series of e-mails and other documents apparently taken from their computer system by a hacker but they cannot explain what was meant by references to a "trick" that would "hide the decline," nor their e-mail exchanges instructing the deletion of certain items.

According to the Australian Investigate magazine, it was a 62 MB Zip file including documents, e-mail exchanges and other information from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit that apparently was posted by an unidentified hacker on a Russian web server.

Phil Jones, chief of the center, confirmed to the magazine the documents appeared accurate and authentic.

"It was a hacker. We were aware of this about threee or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and e-mails," he said.

"It's completely illegal for somebody to hack into our system," he told the magazine.

Author James Delingpole noted in a UK Telegraph column the "most damaging revelations … are those concerning the way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause."

He cited this e-mail with it's possible admission of manipulation, "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd (sic) from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

And this expressing internal doubts: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."

Further, there was an exchange suggesting the suppression of information: "Can you delete any e-mails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis."

"And, perhaps most reprehensibly," Delingpole suggested, "a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank, whose views do not have a scrap of authority."

He cited this e-mail: "This was the danger of always criticizing the skeptics for not publishing in the 'peer-reviewed literature.' Obviously, they found a solution to that – take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I think we have to stop considering 'Climate Research' as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal. We would also need to consider what we tell or request of our more reasonable colleagues who currently sit on the editorial board…What do others think?"

The fact is despite the politically correct global warming alarmism promoted by a financially vested former vice president Al Gore and others, thousands of scientists are skeptical about the accuracy, level and cause of "global warming."

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, even has suggested to members of Congress that they consider the joint opinion of nearly 32,000 scientists, including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s, who agree humans have nothing to do with any "global warming."

Paul was referring to the Petition Project, which actually was launched some 10 years ago when the first few thousand signatures were assembled. Then, between 1999 and 2007, the list of signatures grew gradually without any special effort or campaign.

But in the last few years, and especially because of the release of the movie "An Inconvenient Truth" by Gore, the campaign has been reinvigorated.

"Mr. Gore's movie, asserting a 'consensus' and 'settled science' in agreement about human-caused global warming, conveyed the claims about human-caused global warming to ordinary movie goers and to public school children, to whom the film was widely distributed. Unfortunately, Mr. Gore's movie contains many very serious incorrect claims which no informed, honest scientist could endorse," project spokesman and founder Art Robinson has told WND.

Robinson, a research professor of chemistry, co-founded the Linus Pauling Institute of Science and Medicine with Linus Pauling in 1973, and later co-founded the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.

Paul cited the petition results in his statement to Congress.

"Our energy policies must be based upon scientific truth – not fictional movies or self-interested international agendas," Paul said. "They should be based upon the accomplishments of technological free enterprise that have provided our modern civilization, including our energy industries. That free enterprise must not be hindered by bogus claims about imaginary disasters."

The petition states:

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

Robinson has warned that there are some very serious ramifications to assuming "global warming" results from mankind's actions and therefore those behaviors all need to be halted.

"The campaign to severely ration hydrocarbon energy technology has now been markedly expanded," he said. "In the course of this campaign, many scientifically invalid claims about impending climate emergencies are being made. Simultaneously, proposed political actions to severely reduce hydrocarbon use now threaten the prosperity of Americans and the very existence of hundreds of millions of people in poorer countries," he told WND.

Warned Paul, "Above all, we must never forget our contract with the American people – the Constitution that provides the sole source of legitimacy of our government. That Constitution requires that we preserve the basic human rights of our people – including the right to freely manufacture, use, and sell energy produced by any means they devise – including nuclear, hydrocarbon, solar, wind, or even bicycle generators.

"While it is evident that the human right to produce and use energy does not extend to activities that actually endanger the climate of the Earth upon which we all depend, bogus claims about climate dangers should not be used as a justification to further limit the American people's freedom," Paul said.

"The world is currently cooling; electorates are increasingly reluctant to support eco-policies leading to more oppressive regulation, higher taxes and higher utility bills; the tide is turning against Al Gore's Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. The so-called 'skeptical' view is now also the majority view," Delingpole said in his commentary.

Investigate magazine quoted Jones denying there was any attempt to mislead or conceal.

"They're talking about proxy data going further back in time, a thousand years, and it's just about how you add on the last few years, because when you get proxy data you sample things like tree rings and ice cores, and they don't always have the last few years," he said.

He said he could not recall what he meant when he wrote about a plan to "hide the decline."

In the e-mail, dated 10 years ago, Jones wrote: "Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998. Thanks for the comments, Ray. Cheers, Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit."

The documents also included a message dated just a few weeks ago from Kevin Trenberth to Michal Mann about the "BBC U-turn on climate."

"Well I have my own article on where the heck is global warming? We are asking that here in Boulder where we have broken records the past two days for the coldest days on record. We had 4 inches of snow. The high the last 2 days was below 30F and the normal is 69F, and it smashed the previous records for these days by 10F. The low was about 18F and also a record low, well below the previous record low. This is January weather (see the Rockies baseball playoff game was canceled on saturday and then played last night in below freezing weather)."
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« Reply #617 on: November 24, 2009, 01:36:32 AM »



Hmmmmmm, I worked out the math, (yes I was bored) for the sea rising. Do you know that a 3,000 foot volcano underwater will raise the surface of the sea 3 feet. There has been quite a bit of underwater volcano activity in the oceans of the world here of late.

Now with the talk of islands sinking, seems they should be suing the sea, not countries  which have no blame in the rise of the sea. Or better yet, sue the underwater volcanoes which is causing the rise of the ocean waters.
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« Reply #618 on: November 24, 2009, 08:11:01 AM »

If they thought they could get money from the sea by suing it then I am sure that they would do just that. After all that is what this global warming farce has become ... a way for more money and bigger government.

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« Reply #619 on: November 29, 2009, 06:54:58 PM »

I'll just say that I'm really enjoying the exposure of the Global Warming scam and con game. It would be wonderful if those like Al Gore are charged with various CRIMES - like FRAUD - obtaining money by false pretenses. Lots of money has already been taken, but maybe the rest of this CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY can be stopped.
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