Global Warming

[nChrist]

The "Greener Skies 2008" conference had just heard from David Archibald, a solar scientist asserting that climate change is mostly dictated by solar cycles, not carbon dioxide levels, as conventional wisdom suggests.

           ROFL!

IMAGINE THIS! - Solar cycles could actually have something to do with heat and cold. I thought this WAS conventional wisdom!

UM? - Solar Activity Increases = More Heat

UM? - Solar Activity Decreases = Less Heat

UM? - Dramatic Solar Activity Change = Dramatic Earth Temperature Change

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I thought that the above is almost as basic as light when the sun comes up and increasing darkness when the sun goes down.   

BUT, not all of us can be Al Gore, nor do we wish to be Al Gore!

[Soldier4Christ]

Al Gore is always in the dark so he couldn't tell that it gets cooler at night without the sun. What was it that he said about a flat earth ....

 

[nChrist]

Al Gore is always in the dark so he couldn't tell that it gets cooler at night without the sun. What was it that he said about a flat earth ....

 

    

We might have to find another way of explaining things to Al - maybe pictures that he can color with crayons. Explaining things to Al all at once would  be too much, so let's go SLOW!

 
 

[Soldier4Christ]

 

That's a good idea. Wouldn't want him to suffer from sun shock.

[HisDaughter]

Al Gore is always in the dark so he couldn't tell that it gets cooler at night without the sun. What was it that he said about a flat earth ....

 

Remember he's the same one that laughed at Ollie North when Ollie tried in vain to warn us about the most evil man he had ever encountered.  Goes by the name of Osama bin Laden.

[nChrist]

First movie of 'tsunami' on Sun
By Paul Rincon
Science reporter, BBC News, Belfast

'Tsunami' speeds through the Sun's atmosphere (Nasa Stereo Consortium)

Astronomers have captured the first footage of a solar "tsunami" hurtling through the Sun's atmosphere at over a million kilometres per hour.

The event was captured by Nasa's twin Stereo spacecraft designed to make 3D images of our parent star.

Naturally, this type of tsunami does not involve water; instead, it is a wave of pressure that travels across the Sun very fast.

Details were reported at the UK National Astronomy Meeting in Belfast.

   In half an hour, we saw the tsunami cover almost the full disc of the Sun
David Long

In a solar tsunami, a huge explosion near the Sun, such as a coronal mass ejection or flare, causes a pressure pulse to propagate outwards in a circular pattern.

Last year's solar tsunami, which took place on 19 May 2007, lasted for about 35 minutes, reaching peak speeds about 20 minutes after the initial blast.

Co-author David Long, from Trinity College Dublin (TCD), Ireland, commented: "The energy released in these explosions is phenomenal; about two billion times the annual world energy consumption in just a fraction of a second.

"In half an hour, we saw the tsunami cover almost the full disc of the Sun, nearly a million kilometres away from the epicentre."

His colleague Dr Peter Gallagher, who is also from TCD, said the shockwave moved out exactly like a tsunami on Earth.

"A series of troughs and crests in pressure causes it to propagate outwards. But on the Sun, we have hot gas," he explained.

"When I’m talking to someone in a room, my voice is carried by pressure waves in the gas that's between us; it's the much the same on the Sun."

However, it was not exactly the same, Dr Gallagher added, because on the Sun, magnetic fields also helped the waves along. The phenomenon is therefore known as a magneto-acoustic wave.

Theory problem

Solar tsunamis were originally discovered by the Soho spacecraft almost a decade ago.

However, the observations did not fit at all well with theory: the problem was that the waves were travelling too slowly.

After the two Stereo spacecraft launched in 2006, scientists were able to get images of the Sun at a much higher rate than was possible with Soho.

And when they observed a solar tsunami again last year, their observations matched theoretical predictions.

   

"We found that the speed was probably twice as fast as we had previously thought," Dr Gallagher told BBC News.

"We've seen from this set of observations that if the time interval between images is too long, it’s easy to underestimate the speed that the waves are moving."

With Soho, the researchers were only able to take images in the upper section of the corona - the outer part of the Sun’s atmosphere.

Stereo's Extreme Ultraviolet Imager (EUVI) instruments monitor the Sun at four wavelengths, which allowed astronomers to see how the wave moved through the different layers of the solar atmosphere.

"We were able to show for the first time that this wave actually propagates almost all the way from the surface of the Sun to high up in the Sun's atmosphere," said Dr Gallagher.

The researchers even saw the pressure wave bouncing off irregular regions of the Sun’s atmosphere, generating reflections or diffraction patterns - exactly as tsunamis have been observed to do on Earth when they crash against land.

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[nChrist]

UM?  Common sense might cause many to wonder if a Solar Tsunami could have any impact on temperature change. BUT, let's forget it because that would involve LOGIC, and we wouldn't want LOGIC or COMMON SENSE to prevent AL GORE and HIS FRIENDS from making piles of MONEY on THEIR GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD!

[HisDaughter]

UM?  Common sense might cause many to wonder if a Solar Tsunami could have any impact on temperature change. BUT, let's forget it because that would involve LOGIC, and we wouldn't want LOGIC or COMMON SENSE to prevent AL GORE and HIS FRIENDS from making piles of MONEY on THEIR GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD!

What's this?  Sarcasm?..........


















then you're a man after my own heart!   

[nChrist]

What's this?  Sarcasm?..........


















then you're a man after my own heart!   

    

YES!

[Soldier4Christ]

Top hurricane scientist
cools to global warming
New study suggests storm frequency, intensity
may not substantially rise during next 2 centuries

One of the most vocal scientists in the field of hurricane prediction has backed away from his earlier certainty of a link between global warming and stronger hurricanes after developing a new forecasting technique that suggests a moderate increase – or even decline – in storm activity over the next 200 years.

Kerry Emanuel, a climate scientist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and his co-authors published their findings in the March issue of Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.

"The results surprised me," Emanuel told the Houston Chronicle.

Emanuel's latest research tackled a problem facing hurricane prediction efforts based on climate models. Most such models, used to predict global atmospheric conditions for centuries in the future, are unable to detect individual tropical storms.

The new technique pioneered by Emanuel "downscales" the simulations by creating "seeds" of tropical systems – bits of computer code – throughout the climate model to see how they behave in terms of its global predictions.

Simulations conducted in the study satisfactorily reproduced past hurricane fluctuations, convincing the researchers it could be used for more accurate predictions.

Emanuel and his colleagues found reduction in the number of hurricanes around the world over the next two centuries with increases in intensity in some regions.

"The models are telling us something quite different from what nature seems to be telling us," Emanuel told DotEarth, the New York Times science blog.

"There are various interpretations possible, e.g. a) The big increase in hurricane power over the past 30 years or so may not have much to do with global warming, or b) The models are simply not faithfully reproducing what nature is doing. Hard to know which to believe yet.

Emanuel was among the first to publish his belief global warming was responsible for the increased number of tropical storms making U.S. landfall during the 2004 and 2005 season. Just three weeks before Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, Emanuel, in a paper published in Nature, wrote that a key measurement of the power dissipated by a storm during its lifetime had risen dramatically since the mid-1970s.

In the future, Emanuel concluded, 2005's hurricane activity would become the norm rather than the exception.

As WND reported, lawyer and environmentalist Robert Kennedy Jr. cited that study in blaming the Bush administration for the catastrophic damage caused by Katrina.

"The science is clear," wrote Kennedy, son of slain New York Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, in a commentary at HuffingtonPost.com. "This month, a study published in the journal Nature by a renowned MIT climatologist linked the increasing prevalence of destructive hurricanes to human-induced global warming."

The presumed global warming-hurricane link was used in promotions for Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," with a satellite image of a hurricane emanating from a smokestack.

Emanuel "had the good fortune, or maybe the bad fortune, to publish when the world's attention was focused on hurricanes in 2005," Roger Pielke Jr., who studies science and policy at the University of Colorado, told the Chronicle. "Kerry's work was seized upon in the debate."

Now the debate may go in a different direction.

"The take-home message is that we've got a lot of work to do," Emanuel said of his latest findings. "There's still a lot of uncertainty in this problem. The bulk of the evidence is that hurricane power will go up, but in some places it will go down."

[Soldier4Christ]

Bush prepares global warming initiative
'Attempt to move the administration and the party closer to the center'

President Bush is poised to change course and announce as early as this week that he wants Congress to pass a bill to combat global warming, and will lay out principles for what that should include.

Specifics of the policy are still being fiercely debated, but Bush administration officials have told Republicans in Congress that they feel pressure to act now because they fear a coming regulatory nightmare. It would be the first time Mr. Bush has called for statutory authority on the subject.

"This is an attempt to move the administration and the party closer to the center on global warming. With these steps, it is hoped that the debate over this is over, and it is time to do something," said an administration source close to the White House who is familiar with the planning and who said to expect an announcement this week.

The source requested anonymity to be able to speak on a sensitive matter still under debate. Given the arguments at the White House over the extent of the action to take, it is not clear exactly what Mr. Bush will propose, the adminstration source said.

Still, Republican members of Congress who were briefed last week let top administration officials know that they think the White House is making a mistake, according to congressional sources and others familiar with the discussions. Opponents said Mr. Bush could be setting off runaway legislation, particularly with Democrats in control of Congress.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino would not say whether an announcement is imminent. She said discussion has continued on how to follow up on Mr. Bush's call at the Group of Eight summit last year for the U.S. to lead on a post-Kyoto Protocol worldwide framework.

The administration also is trying to head off what it sees as a regulatory disaster. Environmentalists say greenhouse gases can be regulated under existing rules under the Clean Air Act, the Endangered Species Act or the National Environmental Policy Act, and have filed lawsuits to try to force action. The Bush administration and others want to avoid a web of rules and regulations for businesses.

"The embedded regulatory trajectory that we're on is a train wreck," Mrs. Perino said. "For those who want reasonable and responsible action, it is worthwhile to have a constructive conversation as we work to keep the developing nations in this process in a way that will work to solve the problem without harming the economy."

She said the administration's discussions, both internally and with Congress, are building toward an expected debate on climate change in the Senate in June and toward the next G-8 meeting in July, when the U.S. would like to have a more specific conversation about goals for cutting greenhouse-gas emissions.

At the end of this week, U.S. officials will be in Paris for a meeting with officials from other major economic powers, where climate change is expected to be on the table. Sources in the administration and in Congress say this meeting explains the White House push.

Mrs. Perino, though, stressed that the White House does not expect countries to come to the meeting with specific proposals.

Many scientists say humans are contributing to climate change through increased carbon dioxide emissions from industry, power generation, automobiles and other sources. Some governments, including European nations, have enacted rules to try to limit their emissions, though opponents say those rules end up hurting their economies without much environmental benefit to show for it.

With Sens. John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the remaining major presidential candidates, all favoring new controls on greenhouse-gas emissions, Mr. Bush could be trying to lay the groundwork for the next president.

All three candidates are on record in favor of a cap-and-trade system, such as the Europeans have. The system sets an overall limit on carbon emissions and allows polluters to buy credits from companies that stay below their carbon targets.

The congressional and administration sources said it's not clear whether Mr. Bush will go that far this week.

But Brian Kennedy, spokesman for the Institute for Energy Research, said Mr. Bush should realize that the U.S. is already ahead of the Europeans.

"U.S. taxpayers are already spending more than $40 billion a year to address climate change, and to date we're achieving better results than the Europeans are under a bureaucratic regulatory framework," he said. "That should be kept in mind before any rash — or political — decisions are made inside the White House. Excessive regulations would come with significant economic consequences and additional costs for consumers."

Christopher C. Horner, author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming," said the Bush administration should have seen the regulatory problems long ago and that the president is trying to solve them the wrong way.

"There's a way to responsibly do this, but calling for a bill isn't it. Democrats — and all presidential candidates — desperately want Bush to take ownership of the issue before he goes, leaving them free of the burdens of responsibility for their rhetoric," Mr. Horner said.

He said Mr. Bush should have been spending the past two years pointing out that even as the U.S. reduces the rate of growth of carbon emissions, it is taking manufacturing jobs from Europe. Nations that adopted strict carbon emissions are facing economic consequences while finding the goals impossible to meet, he said.

"The U.S. is the world leader in reducing the rate of growth of CO2 emissions while also growing its economy — faster on both counts, as with population as well, than its principal antagonist, Europe, which is suffering for reasons of political 'face' under a failed scheme that the Democrats and McCain amazingly want to burden us with," he said.

James L. Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, and Keith Hennessey, a domestic policy adviser to Mr. Bush, got an earful Wednesday when they briefed House members on the options the White House is considering.

One person familiar with the meeting said several members, including Republican Reps. John Shimkus of Illinois and F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. of Wisconsin, told the White House it was making a mistake if it called for congressional action.

Spokesmen for both congressmen said their bosses didn't want to be interviewed about the meeting, which they regarded as private. Steve Tomaszewski, a spokesman for Mr. Shimkus, said the congressman's exchange with administration officials was intended to let them know the prospects under a Democrat-controlled House.

"He was emphasizing that whatever proposal the administration might be discussing would not be received favorably by the majority in Congress," Mr. Tomaszewski said. "The speaker is pretty much focused on a cap-and-trade, and anything less that you might propose would likely not be received favorably. Small steps aren't what they're looking at right now."

[nChrist]

I'll go ahead and say it:  BIG MONEY HAS BOUGHT EVERYONE! - INCLUDING PRESIDENT BUSH!

AL GORE'S FRAUD AND CON GAME WORTH 36 + BILLION DOLLARS SHOULD BE STOPPED DEAD IN ITS TRACKS! EVERYONE INVOLVED SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!

[HisDaughter]

Bush prepares global warming initiative
'Attempt to move the administration and the party closer to the center'

President Bush is poised to change course and announce as early as this week that he wants Congress to pass a bill to combat global warming, and will lay out principles for what that should include.

This is as far as I got and I'm too disgusted to read the rest.  Good Grief.  Has everyone gone mad?

[Soldier4Christ]

This is as far as I got and I'm too disgusted to read the rest.  Good Grief.  Has everyone gone mad?

Almost everyone.

[Shammu]

Almost everyone.

Yuppers!!



They need to And look to God, for their answers!!