True teachings vs. false teachings

[His_child]

Jesus never called Joseph, His father, never. The only father he referred to is his Father in heaven. John, 1:12-13, "Yet to all received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to be children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God." That's what being born again means. Ever since being born again, I have never called anyone else my father but God alone. My biggest objection to the catholic church is that they deliberately USE the name father for someone who is not even a blood relative of the people who call him father! There is NO reason to take the title "Father", much less Holy Father, especially when Jesus told us NOT to. I can understand if Christians still want to call their earthly father 'father' , although I don't condone it, but a Christian church giving a title to a religious leader (which was the context in which Jesus explains this) deliberately disobeying him is a slap in Christ's face. There is absolutely NO reason to do this. None. You don't have to believe His words but instead can give them YOUR interpretation, but i believe them exactly as they were written. I'm not the one who is interpreting them. I simply believe them. A child would take the same meaning from them that I do. He wouldn't try to twist them to fit his own agenda. There really is no point in continuing this exchange. I have explained why I believe his words. It is because people don't believe his words that there are so many miscommunications and distortions in understanding scripture. Again, "The work of God is this; to believe in the one He sent." You don't have to believe Him. You can think He should have said more than that. That's your choice. But I believe Him.  

What did Jesus call Joseph then?
The 10 Commandments tell us to honor our father and mother.
Proverbs talks many times about honoring our father.


I don't think that we should give the title Father (upper case F) to any man- that should be saved for our Heavenly Father. However, the Bible does refer to our paternal parental figure as our father (lower case f).

[ebia]

Jesus never called Joseph, His father, never.

How do you possibly know this?  Do you honestly think the only words Jesus ever said to St Joe are the two sentences in Luke Ch 2?

I can understand if Christians still want to call their earthly father 'father' , although I don't condone it,

So what word would you have them use?

I'm not the one who is interpreting them. I simply believe them.

Until you get over this, you'll never understand where you are going wrong.  Words don't mean anything until you interpret them.  To say I believe the words but I'm not interpreting them is meaningless.

A child would take the same meaning from them that I do.

Maybe, maybe not.  Either way it's still an interpretation, and not necessarly the correct one.

[ebia]

I don't think that we should give the title Father (upper case F) to any man- that should be saved for our Heavenly Father. However, the Bible does refer to our paternal parental figure as our father (lower case f).

But capitalization is a modern, man-made concept.  

[Nickolai]

Please forgive me Heidi.

[Gracey]

You forget ebia, Heidi probably thinks that everything Jesus ever said is written in the Bible.

Nickolai;

That was unkind. Post what you want TO her, but it's not nice to post something like that about her.

I thought better of you.


grace and peace
Gracey

[Nickolai]

You forget ebia, Heidi probably thinks that everything Jesus ever said is written in the Bible.

Nickolai;

That was unkind. Post what you want TO her, but it's not nice to post something like that about her.

I thought better of you.


grace and peace
Gracey

You're right, that wasn't very nice.  I deleted the post.

[Gracey]

Nickolai - bless you