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16  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our beloved Mr. Beepster on: August 14, 2004, 09:20:44 PM
Hi Tom,
You're still in my prayers.
Sorry I haven't been around much.
Long story, I'll explain later.

Be blessed!
17  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Bill of Non-rights on: July 31, 2004, 09:59:24 AM
18  Theology / Debate / Re:christian values on: July 27, 2004, 10:57:37 PM
i can't seem to understand when anti-abortion, the integrity of church and state, and anti-gay marriage became "christian values"
i mean when did jesus ever speak against abortion, gays, or the seperation of church and state?
however, jesus did speak for the weak, and those who have no voice

Well, Jesus is God. The Bible is His Word. The Bible speaks out against homosexuality and the killing of the innocent. Cant' get much more innocent than a preborn babe.

You're right Jesus did speak for the weak and those who have no voice. I have yet to hear a preborn babe speak up for themselves.

he despised the rich

He did??!! Where?

and the corrupt, and gave to those who were poor and the downtrodden
he cured the sick, and he preached to all


thus, i can't understand why christians today would claim that bush, and republicans, have the christian values, but kerry, and the democrats do not

In general, the democratic party has done more to promote homosexuality, abortion etc.

it would seem to me that democrats, not republicans, uphold far more christian values then the republicans do

It is the job of the followers of Christ to take care of the widows and orphans. That is not the governments job. Every time the gov't touches something, it ruins it. And we think we should give them our most helpless people to take care of? I think not!!

I care too much about our widows and orphans to willingly turn them over to a gov't who really doesn't care a bit about them.
19  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US Elections 2004 on: July 27, 2004, 10:47:47 PM
RE- take your post to the thread on cults and I'll meet ya there!
20  Entertainment / Laughter (Good Medicine) / Re:You Know You're From a Small Town If... on: July 27, 2004, 01:09:42 AM
True story ...

Our house is for sale we have found and commited to one we like in a very small town.... I set up the Postoffice box while up there for a week , a couple weeks later my DH John went up ... stopped at the PO said to the folks setting on the bench " Hi I am new here" befoere he could finish the postmaster said Hi John ..... Small town ....

When we moved to our town of about 700 people, I went to the town hall to take care of some business. I had never been there before, but they already knew who I was. Even called my by name.
DH grew up in a town of 59. However, some of his family has moved away so they are down to about 50 now.
21  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US Elections 2004 on: July 27, 2004, 12:09:46 AM
With regards to the Scriptures I have held the originals. I only know 5 others who can claim that. The words I protect have not been compromised by the filter of humans in the throes of greed and quest for power.

RE- You said there were 5 others besides yourself. Since you didn't tell us the names, I'm forced to guess.

Looking at recent history I come up with:
1- David Koresh
2- Jim Jones
3- Charles Manson.

Did you want us to go back farther in history to guess the others?

4- Victor Paul Wierwille
5- Joseph Smith.

I'm sure there are more than 5 others who've made the outrageous claims that you've made.
The company you're keepin' ain't so great!
22  Theology / Debate / Re:When does life begin? on: July 26, 2004, 11:50:35 PM
What methods of birth control are acceptable for couples to use?
23  Theology / Debate / Re:We Owe Children an Apology on: July 26, 2004, 11:43:34 PM
Awesome post!
24  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US Elections 2004 on: July 26, 2004, 11:41:54 PM
Well I am not surpised by the mean spirit I have met here. It is no different then the mean spirit that I imagine many of you have met on your alleged path to the House of the Father. In fact it is the same I imagine.

Although you guys could be a little more creative in your arrow slinging, I suppose. At least your resistance confirms that I am doing my job.  Jesus in the 1st century AD was also accused of being against God and more. He was likened to the fanatics of His day just as some of you have with me here. And then their's the Baptiste.
   But I am not a fundamentalist. For fundamentalism is responsible for most of the pain and suffering endured by humanity. And they do it 'under the name of god' which means they have fallen for the deception and are actually doing the bidding of the Great Deciever.

I am meek and so an easy target for your hate and ridicule.
I speak the truth people have forgooten so many rush to condemn my words.
I defend the Light and The Way with the sword of the TRUE WORD of The CHRIST and HIS FATHER. FOR HE IS MY FATHER TOO! He is also your Father but many of you have forgotten His face though you falsely claim to worship Him. And your rememberance of the face of your Father will come too late. So your little arrows of fear and hate and ridicule do little more then light my path into battle. Thanks for the heads up!

My whole long life I have been the recipient of your vulgar and mean spirit while you wore the cross over your heart.
I wore your spit and excrement and you made me bleed for your entertainment. And you did this to me claiming you were doing a Christian thing. But your actions reveal that you are worshipping a false idol whom you have confused for The Christ! Or worst you are worshipping an evil wolf wearing a lamb's coat and a fake crown. And so you run away from The Christ to call the devil Jesus. And then you run to people like me and try and slay my spirit and poison my heart. Jesus wept at the sight of your downfall and ignorant cruelty, for He felt abandoned. And I felt His tears fall onto me. Such heavy, beautiful, tragic things. And though at the time I was not worthy I asked if I may protect His tears from ever falling to Earth again. And He granted me this. He gave me His Words and I held them in my hand, and in my heart where they nourish me. It was so beautiful. I was a blind man seeing LIGHT for the 1st time and it became my turn to weep. We talked about how His words have been usurped and misconstrued by followers of the Great Deciever's progeny- fear, greed, power, and hate. Together we wept over how his name and the name of the will of Our Father was used to promulgate evil as a way to His table. How people are shielding themselves from the True Light of God under a blanket of convictions and have stopped seeking the Truth. And we both wept openly. He showed me each lost soul worshipping another under His sacred Name. He showed me the weapons used to destroy Christkind built falsley under His name. And He showed me each soul killed by someone brandishing His Name like a whore brandishes vulgarity in her dance.  And we wept until our tears wiped these horrid visions away or at least tempered them for they are with me now as I write this. He told me that each thing done to these souls would be attempted to be done to me. And so He made me a sacred cloak from His Light to protect me. And He taught me to forge a powerful sword from His words.
And then He let go of my hands and dropped me in a cave. In His 'penultimate embrace' he told me in the cave I would find three things. And if I were to find them I would emerge from the darkness of this cave into His Divine Light and be ready for battle as one of His Souldiers. And then I was to clear a path for Him. For He is coming to the earth again. But if came without a path of Light carved out of the cruel darkness of our land He would be swept away before He could even begin His work. Such is the way of the world right now and the way of religion.  
   In the cave I found the three things. The 1st was a scroll. I opened it but could not read it. The second was a cup, made of wood and filled with a fluid so clear it seemed to radiate. The third was a mirror. When I looked in the mirror I saw an ancient looking man looking back at me. There was a line for every lost or perished soul The Christ had shown me. And then I realized it was me in that mirror. Even though I had met the Christ when I was a young person living under the floorboards of society I was now an old man. And I wept once again. And in doing so I saw something in each tear. It was the Christ whom I saw in each tear. And from this I grew strong.
I gathered these three belongings, my only belongings ever really, and I walked through the cave for what seemed like years. The radiance of the cup my only source of light. Because of this I was knew I couldn't drink from it until I reached the light. And with the scroll tucked under my shirt, a companion for my heaving chest, I have emerged.

And once again on a supposed Christian place I meet the followers of the opposite. Those calling darkness Light and convictions and menadacity truth So my fight continues for the Lord.

And you will find His Souldiers in the walks of life of the meek. And most of you will walk right by us at best or condemn us in word or deed at worse. And we Souldiers will continue to fight and God Willing win in the end. But this is not preordained. For on the life of Earth humanity has existed for only a blink of the Earth's eye. We haven't even begun to walk on our own yet.

Oh, now I see why you don't want to get involved in the discussion on cults.
25  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US Elections 2004 on: July 26, 2004, 11:35:35 PM
RE- you took the time to attack my brothers and sisters in Christ, but you didn't have the time to answer my simple question to you. Who is Christ?

BTW- DreamWeaver started a thread on cults. Did you not see that one? I'll be more than happy to link it for you. Or you afraid to join in?
26  Theology / Debate / Re:When does life begin? on: July 26, 2004, 11:14:04 AM
I agree that life begins at conception.
Is it ok to use birth control pills?

Call me 'chicken', but I would like to see the reasoning of a few others before I make up my mind on that one.
My knee-jerk reaction is that any type of birth control used within the marriage to prevent conception is okay...

The main way that bc pills work is to prevent conception.
However, there is a back up to the pills that will prevent the fertilized egg from implanting in the womb.
This does not always work and sometimes a baby is born in spite of the abortificant factors of the pill.
However the abortificant factors work more often than not. Therefore the fertilized egg usually will not implant, causing the woman to miscarry usually before she suspects she is pregnant.

If life begins at conception, is it ok to use birth control pills?
Many Christians seem to think that it is ok.
But I don't see how it can be ok because I believe life begins at conception.
27  Theology / Debate / Re:Planned Bank Robbery on: July 26, 2004, 12:23:18 AM
Excellent post Candace!
28  Theology / Debate / Re:When does life begin? on: July 25, 2004, 11:44:07 PM
I agree that life begins at conception.

Is it ok to use birth control pills?
29  Theology / Debate / When does life begin? on: July 25, 2004, 04:00:06 PM
Some people have a hard time figuring out when a human becomes a human.
When do you believe life begins and why do you feel that way?
30  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US Elections 2004 on: July 24, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
His_Child said:
I just want to be the interior decorator.  

HS: I think that's a splendid idea!  Grin

I think Ollie should also create a brand new cabinet member in his new administration - "Secretary of Wisdom".  The wisdom secretary will stand behind a tall, offical looking podium and give confusing and evasive answers to simple questions.  

Oh - wait - there's already a position with that job description:  Press Secretary.   Grin  

I could be like Martha Stewart without the record!  Cheesy

I was just thinking how much money I could save this country because it really doesn't cost that much to decorate in Early American Goodwill.
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