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« on: June 17, 2003, 02:56:17 AM » |
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wake up people of course they can scare you with threats about what happens to you when you die because you have no way of proving them wrong.. so how do they know. because a book they FOUND said so! give me a break...
please open your minds to tolerance and stop preaxhing and start living!
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2003, 03:26:45 AM » |
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"-that which is known about God is evident within them;for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks;but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures."(Romans 1:18-23)
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2003, 12:49:36 PM » |
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wake up people of course they can scare you with threats about what happens to you when you die because you have no way of proving them wrong.. so how do they know. because a book they FOUND said so! give me a break...
please open your minds to tolerance and stop preaxhing and start living!
I'm not scared in the least, but it sounds like you are terrified my friend, and angry. Also, the "Book" was never lost, so how could it have been "found" and who is "they"? As far as tolerance goes, it appears that you have little or no tolerance for Christians. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2003, 03:35:39 PM » |
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Quote from Freedom_Writer today at 2:56:17am: wake up people of course they can scare you with threats about what happens to you when you die because you have no way of proving them wrong.. so how do they know. because a book they FOUND said so! give me a break...
please open your minds to tolerance and stop preaxhing and start living! Christianity is not real? Then why is it real? Wake up? I'm already awake. Who says we're scared by threats? If you believe in God, obey His commandments, love others, and repent for your sins, you won't have to be scared of "threats". Who's they? Now be careful with that argument. I can easily say "life evolves. But how do "they" know? Because the "Origin of Species" By Charles Darwin says so". Open my mind to tolerance? What is that supposed to mean? And what is preaxhing? Is that actually a word? Or do you mean "preaching"? Now, who says I'm not living? I live like a normal person. I do what a normal person does. I go outside. I eat. I sleep. I enjoy things...many things for that matter. I like to star-gaze. I like Astronomy. I like playing basketball and football. I have friends. I'm living. However, I want to give at least a small portion of my time concentrating on studying scripture and praying to God. I hope God guides you to Him. God bless. |
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2003, 03:51:34 PM » |
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i would also like to point out that Christianity never has been and never will be in any way, shape or form a "blind leap" of faith as some think. the Chistian faith is rooted in historical facts and real evidence. however, all the evidence in the universe will not convince someone who does not want to beleive. even if i were to demostrate that the Christian faith is real and that the ressurection of Christ is a historical fact, you would still have to decide weather you are going to open your eyes to the truth or continue rejecting God. ultimately it is a decision. when people reject Christ, it is not that they "cant" beleive, it is that they "wont" beleive.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2003, 03:58:17 PM » |
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That's pretty much it. It's not that people can't believe in
God, it's that they won't believe in God. However, it's entirely
that person's decision if they want to believe or not. We're
just here to spread God's Word, and to help people realize
the truth ( but the Bible and God do most of it.)
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2003, 09:06:49 PM » |
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freedom_writer.
would you happen to be an agnostic, atheist, or maybe new age? if you don't believe in GOD, that's your right. please don't condemn us if we don't care to follow your way of thinking. if you're referring to our pastors scaring us with threats; i don't think so. i know what is going to happen to me when i die....DO YOU?
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2003, 03:40:08 AM » |
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BDoggy,
Look, you are entitled to believe in what you believe, but
please don't say belief in Christianity is not a matter of faith because it is.
How do you know the bible is in reality the word of God? Faith.
How do you know the bible is just not some interesting fairytales some people decided to make up? Faith.
I'm not saying, don't believe it if you choose to. Just don't tell people it is not based on faith, that's all. Ok.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2003, 05:21:02 AM » |
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Quote from Freedom_Writer today at 2:56:17am: wake up people of course they can scare you with threats about what happens to you when you die because you have no way of proving them wrong.. so how do they know. because a book they FOUND said so! give me a break...
please open your minds to tolerance and stop preaxhing and start living! Christianity is not real? Then why is it real? Wake up? I'm already awake. Who says we're scared by threats? If you believe in God, obey His commandments, love others, and repent for your sins, you won't have to be scared of "threats". Who's they? Now be careful with that argument. I can easily say "life evolves. But how do "they" know? Because the "Origin of Species" By Charles Darwin says so". Open my mind to tolerance? What is that supposed to mean? And what is preaxhing? Is that actually a word? Or do you mean "preaching"? Now, who says I'm not living? I live like a normal person. I do what a normal person does. I go outside. I eat. I sleep. I enjoy things...many things for that matter. I like to star-gaze. I like Astronomy. I like playing basketball and football. I have friends. I'm living. However, I want to give at least a small portion of my time concentrating on studying scripture and praying to God. I hope God guides you to Him. God bless. Amen Brother Love  |
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2003, 10:12:05 AM » |
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Thanks bro.  |
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2003, 04:58:51 PM » |
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questions-WOW!! you totally missed what i said. show me where i made the statement that beleiving in Christ is not a matter of faith.  ya know, i'm trying to be polite, but i REALLY do not appreciate it when people put words into my mouth!  all i said was that beleif in Christ is not a 'blind' faith. it is supported by evidence. and yes, when someone rejects or accepts Christ, it is a choice. i never once said that faith is not involved! faith itself is a choice. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2003, 05:36:24 AM » |
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BDoggy,
"i would also like to point out that Christianity never has been and never will be in any way, shape or form a "blind leap" of faith as some think. the Chistian faith is rooted in historical facts and real evidence."
You never said faith was a part of it. You said it was not a leap of blind faith, and that the Christian faith is rooted in historical facts and real evidence.
Without faith, whatever historical facts and real evidence you are referring to, is meaningless. Faith is the key root of the Christian religion, and by not mentioning it you gave the impression that "faith" either is not an ingredient or is not an important part, and therefore not worth mentioning. The fact that you said it is not a blind leap of faith, does not automatically suggest you are saying faith is involved. That is why I said what I did.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2003, 05:59:26 AM » |
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Thanks bro. No Bro Thank You Brother Love |
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2003, 06:10:55 PM » |
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questions-once again, where did i make the statement that faith in Christ is not a matter of faith? furthermore, how does me saying that the Christian faith is supported by evidence imply that it is not a matter of faith?? i stand by my words. Christianity is not, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be a 'blind' faith. why do you think that evidence and faith are in opposition to one another? or am i misunderstanding what you're saying? i am beginning to think that you and i have a completely different defenition of the word 'faith'. so, let me ask you; what do you think faith is??
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"Virtually every theological heresy begins with a misconception of the nature of God."
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2003, 08:01:13 PM » |
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wake up people of course they can scare you with threats about what happens to you when you die because you have no way of proving them wrong.. so how do they know. because a book they FOUND said so! give me a break...
please open your minds to tolerance and stop preaxhing and start living!
Your intolerance is showing, as is your preachiness. It all boils down to your post being hypocritical. You are asking Christians to do things that you do not do as your post is witness. |
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