Construction of Image of the Beast in Australia

[Dawn]

Have a look at the immense construction of the Image of the Beast in Canberra, Australia at end time prophecy site www.martyrsofrevelation.com. Give any thoughts and comments.

[ebia]

Have a look at the immense construction of the Image of the Beast in Canberra, Australia at end time prophecy site www.martyrsofrevelation.com. Give any thoughts and comments.

I wouldn't describe Parliament House as the most beautiful building in the world, but satanic it is not.  Shame your images don't work, but I've seen the building for real anyway.

Go and find another bridge.

[Dawn]

Sorry to disappoint but Masonic and occultic symbolism is strongly evident in the Canberra design. Academics and commentators have concurred - I refer to Associate Professor Peter Proudfoot of the New South Wales University 'The Secret Plan of Canberra, 1994, UNSW Press' and Beck H. Parliament House Canberra, A Building for the Nation, 1996, The Watermark Press. Also try downloading the free online book that has selected blueprints and photos in chapter 10.

I suggest you take the advice of G Polya 'It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand'.  

[Tibby]

You do know Ebia is located in New Zealand, right?

I also don't see what makes the picture so Satanic. I didn't know Satan invented the Pyramid.

I'm also glad to know Bush is the Antichrist. I was not aware of this.

[Dawn]

The occult and Freemasonry have greatly employed the use of symbolism. I realise that many do not recognise or know the meaning of their spiritual significance. Nonetheless the fact remains that occultists and the like use and recognise symbolism. A number of symbols or images have been integrated into the Canberra design and the New Parliament House. The Image you are referring to is of the Goat of Mendes with headdress or crown and is the best known representation of Lucifier in occultism. I would recommend researching the topic and related issues on the internet etc to gain a greater appreciation of it's significance.  

As for Ebia located in New Zealand - I fail to see the point. Many people living in Canberra itself would be equally ignorant of the influences that shaped it's design.  

[ebia]

As for Ebia located in New Zealand - I fail to see the point. Many people living in Canberra itself would be equally ignorant of the influences that shaped it's design.  

FWIW, I'm in Victoria, not N.Z.

Look hard enough, and you can "find" this sort of stuff anywhere.

[Symphony]

Thanks Dawn.

I don't quite see what you're referring to in the pictures.

But I can only agree that as our governments become increasingly amoral or atheistic/pagan, that the resulting vacuum will only be replaced.  It's simply a reversion to where we were when/before Julias Caesar happened upon the Druids.  It's no surprise to see such effects to once again appear.

All of the western governments, of which I believe NZ has been at the notable vanguard, have descended gradually into the socialism mandate--a replacement of faith in God to faith in our worldly governement/s.  Couple this with an increased enchantment with interfaithism and the occult.   America is certainly setting itself up for such.

So if there are any occult effects there, it would be only predictable, to my mind.

[Dawn]

Thanks for your comments and you are totally correct. It certainly is a sad state of affairs in the world. Regarding the building, there is more than just one 'image'. Masonic symbols have been incorporated into the design of Capital Hill and the Parliament House building itself, to the extent that the building is a Masonic temple, although it functions as a Parliament. To give an example, in the House of the Temple in Washington D.C. (33rd degree Supreme Council of the Masonic Lodge - see their web site for photos) there is a black granite altar in the Temple Room, likewise there is the same stone in the Member's Hall Parliament House. The architectural layout is that of a temple (see online book for correlations with St. Peters in Rome and Masonic temples). The geometric floor in the Great Foyer has been taken from the Pantheon in Rome - temple to the pagan gods. The columns from the Palace of Persepolis in Persia and the front portico from the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut, Upper Egypt. Finally take a look at the map of Canberra at the end of chapter 10 - where the major roads form the Masonic pyramid as depicted on the US Great Seal (reverse side). The Parliament is located in Capital circle - the location of the All Seeing Eye on the US Great Seal. It is the image of Washington - Canberra is aligned to face Washington - the final temple of the Antichrist and his image. What Revelation 13 says is that the Image receives delegated authority to give the decree of Rev. 13. So have a closer look at the info in the online book at www.martyrsofrevelation.com.

[Symphony]

Yep, we're descendents of all the ancient orders.  

Tomorrow(oops, today) the new ICC (in Belgium?), Internat'l Crim'l Court, is deciding on the 400-mile long concrete and steel wall Israel is building.

--a world court deciding on something major Israel is doing.

Couple this with Mel Gibson's "Passion" coming out this week.

And the new disregard by gays in San Francisco(Gov Swarz "asked" the state's Atty Gen to step in; he declined).  Rumor this eve that Chicago is next--predicting a national gay sweep--a possible nightmare for the Democrats, and this being an election year--the next eight months critical.

A convergence of major events, global, simultatneously.

Matt Drudge this evening on his radio program, saying that people are already planning to see the Passion again--and they haven't even seen it the first time yet.   Speculation on the movie's gross--he asked, What If--What If it breaks all box office records??

On Masonic--I recall a two volume book set--c. about 1888, when I was researching the Masons, a full page lithograph of George Washington, in Masonic garb(the mason's apron)...and insignia...

[ebia]

Thanks for your comments and you are totally correct. It certainly is a sad state of affairs in the world. Regarding the building, there is more than just one 'image'. Masonic symbols have been incorporated into the design of Capital Hill and the Parliament House building itself, to the extent that the building is a Masonic temple, although it functions as a Parliament. To give an example, in the House of the Temple in Washington D.C. (33rd degree Supreme Council of the Masonic Lodge - see their web site for photos) there is a black granite altar in the Temple Room, likewise there is the same stone in the Member's Hall Parliament House.

Which proves what - granite (black or otherwise) has been used for for all sorts of things for a very long time.   If I knew a satan worshiper called Dawn, would that prove that you are also a satan worshipper?

The architectural layout is that of a temple (see online book for correlations with St. Peters in Rome and Masonic temples).

So it looks a bit like the world's most famous Church, therefore it's dedicated to satan?      Masonic Temples also take some of their design from churches, so if Parliament House takes some of it's inspiration from churches (a good thing) then it's bound to have certain similarities to masonic temples.

The geometric floor in the Great Foyer has been taken from the Pantheon in Rome - temple to the pagan gods.

And also a great piece of art.

Finally take a look at the map of Canberra at the end of chapter 10 - where the major roads form the Masonic pyramid as depicted on the US Great Seal (reverse side). The Parliament is located in Capital circle - the location of the All Seeing Eye on the US Great Seal. It is the image of Washington - Canberra is aligned to face Washington - the final temple of the Antichrist and his image. What Revelation 13 says is that the Image receives delegated authority to give the decree of Rev. 13.

LOL

Whatever it is you're taking, I wouldn't take so much of it if I were you.

So have a closer look at the info in the online book at www.martyrsofrevelation.com.

No thanks.  If you want to discuss it, discuss it here and stop plugging the book.

[Dawn]

Ebia, In order to discuss the topic one must be at least acquinted with the subject matter - hence the references to some academic sources and the online book - which I might add is free out of concern for persons like yourself - that they may at least be aware of it and have the opportunity to examine it. So please don't shoot the messenger. The design of the New Parliament House and it's parallels with Masonic design is no coincidence as the chief architects Ehrman B Mitchell Jr. and Romaldo Giurgola, born and trained in Rome, were high degree Freemasons. The Masonic design is self-evident. As for some aspects of the design (e.g. black granite altar stone etc), anyone who is a Freemason or familiar with religious and occultic history will immediately recognise it's spiritual significance. The designer of Canberra - Walter Burley Griffin from Chicago was also a Freemason and delved into mysticism and the occult. As Associate Professor Proudfoot from the NSWU says 'Inspiration for the Griffins' Canberra design is drawn from both ancient spiritual ideas and the Griffins' understanding of geomancy...Canberra, therefore, as affinities with Stonehenge, sacred Glastionbury, ancient Egyptian temples and pyramids..' p.4. You may think that the Pantheon features some great pieces of art - I might remind you that the Pantheon was built as a temple (rebuilt by Hadrian in the 2d century) to the pagan god's of Rome and worshipped in by the very same Roman Emperors that persecuted and butchered Christians by the thousands. In 609 AD it was disgracefully consecrated as a 'church' by the Roman Catholic Pope - the very church that would undertake its own persecution of Protestants during the Inquisitions. So this is no light matter or a joke - this information is extremely important for Christians to know. Before hastily writing do some homework.  

[ebia]

Ebia, In order to discuss the topic one must be at least acquinted with the subject matter - hence the references to some academic sources and the online book - which I might add is free out of concern for persons like yourself - that they may at least be aware of it and have the opportunity to examine it. So please don't shoot the messenger.

If you want to debate it in a public forum (ie here) then you'll have to bring the arguments here and discuss them yourself, not just point people off to a couple of books all the time.

The design of the New Parliament House and it's parallels with Masonic design is no coincidence as the chief architects Ehrman B Mitchell Jr. and Romaldo Giurgola, born and trained in Rome, were high degree Freemasons. The Masonic design is self-evident.

When any one says anything is self-evident, I usually get very suspisious or cynical, or both.

As for some aspects of the design (e.g. black granite altar stone etc), anyone who is a Freemason or familiar with religious and occultic history will immediately recognise it's spiritual significance.

Even if true, the onus is on you to prove that symbolism is:
a.  deliberate
b.  intended to be interpreted the way you interpret it.

The designer of Canberra - Walter Burley Griffin from Chicago was also a Freemason and delved into mysticism and the occult.

As an archtect, I expect
he'd have had a hard time of it if he wasn't a mason.  Now I'm no fan of the masons, but its been pretty hard to progress in some professions without at least nominal membership.

You've got to demonstrate that this symbolism is deliberate and intended.  The fact that you're claiming symbolism from everything from the masons to pagans to christianity (the RCC) doesn't make your case look strong.

As Associate Professor Proudfoot from the NSWU says 'Inspiration for the Griffins' Canberra design is drawn from both ancient spiritual ideas and the Griffins' understanding of geomancy...Canberra, therefore, as affinities with Stonehenge, sacred Glastionbury, ancient Egyptian temples and pyramids..' p.4.

As an architect I'd expect him to draw on this sort of range of places.  BTW, Glastonbury's status is as much fueled by its christian links as anything else, and Stonehenge is an amazing place - a perfectly reasonable source of inspiration.

You may think that the Pantheon features some great pieces of art - I might remind you that the Pantheon was built as a temple (rebuilt by Hadrian in the 2d century) to the pagan god's of Rome and worshipped in by the very same Roman Emperors that persecuted and butchered Christians by the thousands.

Doesn't stop it being great art.

In 609 AD it was disgracefully consecrated as a 'church' by the Roman Catholic Pope - the very church that would undertake its own persecution of Protestants during the Inquisitions.

What's this got to do with the price of fish?

So this is no light matter or a joke - this information is extremely important for Christians to know. Before hastily writing do some homework.  

So far, you've failed to give me one consistent reason why I should.

[Dawn]

Ebia, any good argument is supported by sources and facts not just diatribe. I am sure many people will find the references helpful. Obviously your discussion is descending into point scoring and emotions, perhaps with some sensitivities regarding Freemasonry and pagan sites. You certainly do not seem to acknowledge the occultic or satanic undertones or the influence it exerts. I found some of your answers disconcerting especially if you are a Christian - if I may ask - are you a Christian? Paganism (Stonehenge included) and Freemasonry do not mix with biblical Christianity.

[Dawn]

On Masonic--I recall a two volume book set--c. about 1888, when I was researching the Masons, a full page lithograph of George Washington, in Masonic garb(the mason's apron)...and insignia...

This earlier posting by Symphony is a key to understanding why so many Masonic symbols have been used in Washington D.C. and even on the US dollar bill. Many of the founding fathers were Freemasons. Out of interest, the All-Seeing Eye depicted within the capstone on the US Dollar bill, is actually the Ut Chut (also spelled Wedjat) Eye and is associated both with Osiris and the god Horus (Ra Hoor Khuit). An ancient Egyptian coffin text refers to it as the All Seeing Eye of Horus (Lucifer).

I should also say that many Freemasons of the lower degrees do not realise the full extent of occultism in the Lodge. But Jesus Christ calls them out and we must pray that many will have the spiritual darkness over their eyes broken through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the Cross of Calvary.

[Early57]

why not expened this much energy on learning about Jesus and let the devil building go.

Of course I looked at your devil building and I don't see the devil there.  It is a pretty big building, and has a lot of nice features.

But is it not counter productive to build a religious building down under.  it would make more cents to build it in the middle east, say, somewhere like Isreal, for instance.  or even Iraq and maybe, but this is just a guess, Rome or Greece;  why not try Iran.

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Early57