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« Reply #480 on: August 14, 2008, 07:00:20 PM »

Sounds like a very intelligent man to me.
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« Reply #481 on: August 14, 2008, 07:06:20 PM »



Great sign!
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« Reply #482 on: August 14, 2008, 07:18:02 PM »

THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

John McCain
Congress: 26 Years
Military : 22 Years
 
 
Barrack Obama
Congress: 143 days
Military: 0

 Just think how great a professional of any kind you could be with only 143 days of experience!!!
 
 People want change so badly? . . . . maybe we should lower the experience requirement for doctors, lawyers,  airline pilots, etc. This would cause some change!
 
Obama's 143 Days of Senate Experience
 
 Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama  have in terms of actual work days? Not much.
 
 From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory Committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.  That's how many days the Senate was actually in  session  and working.
 The one single Senate committee that he headed never
 even met once.
 
 After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he
 was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the
 Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR,
 
 JFK and Ronald Reagan.
 
 Think about it.......143 days -- 20.4 weeks -- 4.7  months ...
 

 Our children spend more time in pre-school getting  ready  for kindergarten.
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« Reply #483 on: August 15, 2008, 11:37:49 PM »

Sounds like a very intelligent man to me.


Hello Pastor Roger,

YES - Thomas Sowell is a brilliant man. I've enjoyed his writing for many years. He writes frequently for Christian conservative publications. He's also known by many as an intellectual, but most of his views are simply common sense and morals. From everything I know about him, I would love to see someone like Thomas Sowell running for President. He does have a lengthy reputation as Godly, moral, patriotic, and as one of the great thinkers of our time. I'll just say that I already have a great amount of respect for Mr. Sowell, and I don't understand why we don't have people like him to vote for. Mr. Sowell rightly pointed out that SIMPLY race or gender should not be a determining factor for who we vote for. On the other side of the coin, race or gender should not be a negative factor. "Who will do the best job" for GOD and country should be the determining factors for how we vote. Back to Thomas Sowell - he is a brilliant man, but he's also respected by many people with just plain common sense. Thomas Sowell is also an intellectual, but I think he will be remembered the most for his wisdom and common sense on many issues.

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« Reply #484 on: August 16, 2008, 01:33:47 AM »

Just looking at what this gent has said in the past...

Obama accuses Christian Right of hijacking faith 
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Posted: 06/23/07 06:41 PM [ET] 
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) strongly criticized Christian conservatives Saturday, saying they had “hijacked” faith and are using it to drive a wedge between people.

“Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart,” Obama said at the United Church of Christ in Hartford, Connecticut.

The presidential candidate stated that the “so-called leaders of the Christian Right” have been “all too eager to exploit what divides us.

“At every opportunity, they’ve told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their Church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage; school prayer and intelligent design,” he said. “There was even a time when the Christian Coalition determined that its number one legislative priority was tax cuts for the rich. I don’t know what Bible they’re reading, but it doesn’t jibe with my version.”

Obama told his audience that he is getting a sense – after talking to Americans all across the country – that there is something missing in their lives.

“They want a sense of purpose, a narrative arc to their lives,” he said. “They’re looking to relieve a chronic loneliness. And so they need an assurance that somebody out there cares about them, is listening to them – that they are not just destined to travel down that long road toward nothingness.”

This feeling, he added, is what he experienced as a young community organizer in Chicago.

“Slowly, I came to realize that something was missing as well – that without an anchor for my beliefs, without a commitment to a particular community of faith, at some level I would always remain apart, and alone,” he said. Obama became a member of the United Church of Christ after his arrival in Chicago.

The senator called for the days to continue in which faith brought people together.

“So let’s rededicate ourselves to a new kind of politics – a politics of conscience,” ha said. “Let’s come together – Protestant and Catholic, Muslim and Hindu and Jew, believer and non-believer alike. We’re not going to agree on everything, but we can disagree without being disagreeable. We can affirm our faith without endangering the separation of church and state, as long as we understand that when we’re in the public square, we have to speak in universal terms that everyone can understand.” 
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« Reply #485 on: August 16, 2008, 01:38:00 AM »

Barack Obama targets the religious Right
Democratic nominee Senator Barack Obama is aiming to lure members of the religious Right, the movement that twice helped George W Bush win the White House.
 
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Last Updated: 1:40PM BST 12 Jun 2008

His campaign is set to launch the Joshua Generation Project, an initiative that will include household gatherings, blogs and concerts, to attract young evangelicals and Catholics ahead of November's US presidential election.

The campaign has noted an "unprecedented energy" among young religious people for the Illinois senator and aims to bring them into a new coalition of voters that will include non-devout youth, independent voters and some Republicans.

Earlier this week Mr Obama in his home city Chicago held a meeting with 30 religious leaders, authors and theologians, many of them who have not declared their support. In what was wide-ranging, two-hour discussion, spokesman for Franklin Graham, who succeeded his father as head of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, said on Wednesday that he found the senator "impressive" and "warm".

David Brody, senior correspondent with the Christian Broadcasting Network, said the presence of several conservative figures at the meeting was a "really big deal", adding it "may be a signal that Obama's campaign is ready to break down the traditional wall of separation between conservatives and liberals when it comes to religious talk".

Mr Obama is aware that by supporting abortion and gay marriage he will prevent many religious conservatives from voting for him, but he nonetheless hopes that his "outreach" will help defuse the cultural conflict that has marked the US for several decades.

"Reaching out to the faith community is a priority for Barack Obama and will be a priority under an Obama administration. This is one of several meetings he will have over the coming months with religious leaders," said Obama campaign spokesman Jen Psaki.

He is however straying onto relatively friendly territory. For all his difficulties with his controversial former pastor, the Rev Jeremiah Wright, the 46-year-old first-term senator he is known as a genuine, practising Christian.

His Republican rival for the White House, Senator John McCain, may be "pro-life" but is no darling of the Religious Right, whom he once called "agents of intolerance", and lacks the inspiration on other issues offered by Mr Obama. He is struggling to mobilize what is a key section of the Republican base to work on his behalf.

Growing numbers of influential evangelical leaders such as Rick Warren and Joel Hunter have addressed the need to depoliticize the movement, which from the late 1970s onwards became identified with the Republicans.

Evangelicals make up the biggest religious group in the country, with 26.3 of the population, while in a 2004 study 56 per cent described themselves as Republican.

Abortion and gay marriage have been regarded as non-negotiable issues, but more now see "whole of life" as more important, and have embraced causes such as climate change, Darfur and poverty, opening the door to voting for a candidate such as Mr Obama.

"Many of them have become very disillusioned with the Republican Party for the way they have been used. Their issues were raised in campaigns and not acted on," said Os Guinness, a leading evangelical scholar, adding that he once heard a senior White House staffer refer to evangelicals as "useful idiots".

"We are now seeing the end of the dominance of the Religious Right, the coalition that made it so powerful is breaking up," he said.

Mr Guinness, who has lived in the US for 20 years, recently launched an "evangelical manifesto" with seven other theologians condemning Christians on the Right and Left for "using faith" to express political views "without regard to the truth of the Bible".

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« Reply #486 on: August 16, 2008, 01:46:35 AM »

Obama Making Christian Push
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Saturday, June 21, 2008; Page B09

WASHINGTON -- With the Democratic presidential nomination in his grasp, Sen. Barack Obama is making a full-throttle push for centrist evangelicals and Catholics.

It's a move that's caught some conservative evangelicals off guard. They say they are surprised and dismayed to see a liberal-minded politician attempting to conscript their troops. At the same time, they say that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has done little to court their affections.

"I've never seen anything quite like it before," said evangelical author Stephen Mansfield, who wrote "The Faith of George W. Bush" and has a forthcoming book about Obama.

"To be running against a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, and to be reaching into the Christian community as wisely and knowledgeably as (Obama) is -- understanding their terms and their values -- is just remarkable."

This month, the Illinois senator held a closed-door meeting in Chicago with almost 40 Christian leaders, including evangelical heavyweights such as the Rev. Franklin Graham, publishing magnate Steve Strang and megachurch pastor Bishop T.D. Jakes.

Obama's campaign is also launching a grass-roots effort, tentatively called Joshua Generation, with plans to hold concerts and house meetings targeted at young evangelicals and Catholics.

A political action committee set to launch this month, the Matthew 25 Network, plans to direct radio advertising and mailers to Christian communities while talking up Obama in the media. The group is not officially tied to the Obama campaign.

Obama's emphasis on faith outreach plays to his strengths, campaign observers say. The senator is at ease speaking about religion and preaches a message of forging common ground with disparate communities.

Still, some religious leaders wonder whether Obama's Christian-focused outreach might alienate Jewish and Muslim voters, for example, not to mention the Democratic Party's large secular wing.

"You really have to consider the question: What message does this send to people of other faiths?" said the Rev. Romal J. Tune, a Washington pastor who works on religious outreach with the Democratic National Committee.

Joshua DuBois, Obama's director of faith outreach, said the campaign is "not solely focused" on evangelicals and Catholics but "committed to reaching people of faith broadly and trying to bridge religious divides."

Nonetheless, Obama has clearly learned a lesson from previous, unsuccessful Democratic presidential candidates: Ignore -- or dismiss -- evangelicals at your peril.

Despite the concerted push, Obama faces a tough task in trying to loosen the GOP's hold on a majority of white churchgoers. A recent poll by Calvin College found McCain leading Obama 57 percent to 25 percent among evangelicals and 43 percent to 35 percent among Catholics.

"Right now there's really more continuity than change" among religious voters, said John C. Green, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. "But we're at the beginning of the campaign, and what campaigns try to do is change people's minds."

Obama may have done some of that at the Chicago meeting, which one adviser described as a "Nixon goes to China" moment.

Abortion and gay marriage -- issues on which he openly disagreed with many of the evangelical leaders in the room -- dominated the discussion, according to participants.

Still, Strang wrote in a blog, Obama "won over the loyalties of many."

"He came across as thoughtful and much more of a 'centrist' than I would have expected," Strang wrote, adding that he hopes McCain will host a similar gathering.

Mansfield said he sees similar political acumen in the Joshua Generation program. Often used as a "mobilizing phrase" among evangelical church youth groups, the name refers to the biblical story of Joshua, who did what Moses could not: lead his people into the Promised Land.

"The impressive thing about Obama is that he knows this," Mansfield said. "This is language you expect to hear at a youth rally, not from the presidential campaign of the most liberal member of the Senate."

The Matthew 25 Project, named after the biblical passage in which Jesus promises eternal life for those who care for the least and the lost, will be led by Mara Vanderslice, a young evangelical who briefly led faith outreach for the 2004 campaign of Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and later founded a respected political consulting firm.

About 40 people turned up for a $1,000-a-head Washington fundraiser this month to hear about the group's plans for targeting Catholics, moderate evangelicals, Hispanic Catholics and Protestants, Vanderslice said.

The PAC is just one "piece of the faith outreach puzzle," said Mike McCurry, a former press secretary for President Bill Clinton who is advising the project.

"For evangelicals, obviously this is an uphill battle. No one is proposing that we go and win a majority of them," McCurry said. But there are significant numbers of moderate Christians "and we need to reach them."
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« Reply #487 on: August 16, 2008, 01:51:00 AM »

Obama Wows the Religious Right
Posted December 5, 2006
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WASHINGTON—American politics took an important turn last week at a church in the foothills of Southern California’s Santa Ana Mountains.

When Rick Warren, one of the nation’s most popular evangelical pastors, faced down right-wing pressure and invited Sen. Barack Obama to speak at a gathering at his Saddleback Valley Community Church about the AIDS crisis, he sent a signal: A significant group of theologically conservative Christians no longer wants to be treated as a cog in the Republican political machine.

For his part, Obama, the former community organizer from Chicago, showed why he is this moment’s hottest commodity in 2008 presidential politics, even though he has not entered the race yet.

For a quarter-century since the rise of the Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition, white evangelical Christians have widely been seen as a Republican preserve. No one did a more comprehensive job of organizing them than President Bush, and he carried the white evangelical vote in 2004 over John Kerry by a margin of nearly 4-1. Many of the most politically active evangelical leaders have insisted that the morally freighted social issues—abortion, stem-cell research, gay marriage—took priority over all questions.

Enter Warren, or Pastor Rick as he likes to be known. Warren is no political liberal. On the contrary, his views on the hot-button issues are reliably conservative, and he has said that members of his sprawling Orange County congregation probably vote overwhelmingly Republican.

But Warren speaks for a new generation of evangelicals who think that harnessing religious faith too closely to electoral politics is bad for religion, and who are broadening the evangelical public agenda to include a concern for global poverty and the scourge of AIDS.

Warren is also the most gifted religious entrepreneur since Billy Graham. Warren’s book “The Purpose Driven Life’’ has sold in the tens of millions, and his specific model for the mega-church has spread all over the country. He is not building a new denomination. He is building a new network, and it’s powerful. Warren and his wife, Kay, have made alleviating the AIDS crisis in Africa one of the central components of their mission.

And thus it came to pass that when Warren called a conference at his church last Friday on World AIDS Day, among those he invited were two potential presidential candidates. It was unsurprising that one of them was Sen. Sam Brownback, the Kansas Republican and a loyal social conservative who has taken up the AIDS issue with passion and commitment.

But when the other invitee turned out to be Obama, parts of the old evangelical political apparatus took after Warren as a heretic. Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy Council, declared that Obama’s views on abortion—Obama is pro-choice—represented “the antithesis of biblical ethics and morality’’ and insisted that Warren had no business inviting him to Saddleback.

Warren’s church issued a statement reaffirming its strong opposition to abortion, but Warren did not back down. Indeed, he seemed to revel in rejecting the old evangelical political model. “I’m a pastor, not a politician,’’ Warren told ABC News. “People always say, ‘Rick, are you right wing or left wing?’ I say I’m for the whole bird.’’

When it came his turn to speak, Obama took on the moral message of evangelical AIDS activists—and then challenged them.

“Let me say this and let me say this loud and clear: I don’t think that we can deny that there is a moral and spiritual component to prevention,’’ he declared. “In too many places ... the relationship between men and women, between sexuality and spirituality, has broken down and needs to be repaired.”

Then Obama got to what “may be the difficult part for some,’’ as he put it, that “abstinence and fidelity, although the ideal, may not always be the reality.’’

“We’re dealing with flesh-and-blood men and women, and not abstractions,” Obama said, “and that if condoms and potentially things like microbicides can prevent millions of deaths, then they should be made more widely available. ... I don’t accept the notion that those who make mistakes in their lives should be given an effective death sentence.”

That Obama received a standing ovation suggests that Warren is right to sense that growing numbers of Christians are tired of narrowly partisan politics and share his interest in “the whole bird.’’ In their different spheres, Warren and Obama are both in the business of retailing hope.

One more thing: If you read Obama’s speech, you’ll realize he demonstrates a much truer Christian spirit than the GOP masterminds who have recently tried to push people away from Obama by pointing out that his middle name is Hussein.

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« Reply #488 on: August 16, 2008, 02:00:38 AM »

Again, just looking at his past to get an idea of his present character...

ELECTION 08: Obama slams 'Christian Right,' voices faith in testimony; ...

Posted on Jun 28, 2007 | by Jennifer Thurman

WASHINGTON (BP)--Sen. Barack Obama, D.-Ill., spoke openly about his religious views at a United Church of Christ meeting June 23 in Hartford, Conn., saying the religious right had played a role in "hijacking faith."

"Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and faith started being used to drive us apart," Obama said. "Faith got hijacked, partly because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, all too eager to exploit what divides us.

"At every opportunity, they've told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design."

However, the rest of Obama's 30-minute message focused on an intimate retelling of his conversion experience, which David Brody, senior national correspondent for the Christian Broadcasting Network, commended in his weblog, "The Brody File."

"Besides Obama, how many times have you seen a presidential candidate get up in front of a large crowd and talk in depth about his salvation? I'll give you the answer: Zero," Brody said. "For Obama to stand up and talk about how Jesus changed his life, my friends that takes guts. You may disagree with everything he's about, you may disagree with his policy goals but as Christians, shouldn't we like it when someone talks about Christ being the missing ingredient in his life?"

Obama spoke about working alongside churchgoers to rebuild poor neighborhoods in Chicago in 1985, an experience that led him to begin attending Trinity United Church of Christ, which culminated in his conversion.

"I learned that my sins could be redeemed. I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, He would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in Him. And in time, I came to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world and in my own life," Obama said.

"It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and ... kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt I heard God's Spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth and carrying out His works."

Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church with 1.2 million members that is considered one of the most liberal among the Protestant churches.
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« Reply #489 on: August 16, 2008, 02:05:10 AM »

Hello MangoMan,

THANKS!

Obama is trying to present himself as all things to all people, and we all know that's impossible. Frankly, the presentation of himself is orchestrated lies, and few probably have a clue about what Obama actually believes unless they do considerable research on their own. I did that and kept copies. As a Christian looking at NOTHING but BIBLICAL principles, Obama has NOTHING for me or my family. I can do without all the political tags. If I pay any attention to GOD'S WORD, I would NEVER vote for a person like Obama. Bluntly, that would be calling evil good, and I won't do that.

Isaiah 5:20-23  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!  21  Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!  22  Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:  23  Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

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« Reply #490 on: August 17, 2008, 10:57:50 PM »

Was young Obama Indonesian citizen?
Document, travel suggest 'Barry Soetero' member of world's largest Muslim country

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Indonesian school registration for "Barry Soetoro" (AP photo)
JERUSALEM – Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life?

That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, ever since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship.

An investigation into Indonesian citizenship law and a review of Obama's biography and travels suggest the Illinois senator at one point may have been a citizen of Indonesia. That would not necessarily disqualify Obama to run for president, but it could raise loyalty concerns.

A 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced last week on the Daylife.com photographic website showing an image of Obama's registration card at Indonesia's Fransiskus Assisi school, a Catholic institution.

In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim.

Jack Stokes, manager of media relations for the AP, confirmed to WND the picture is indeed an AP photo. It was supposed to accompany an AP story last January refuting charges that Obama attended an Islamist school, but the picture was not used.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was later enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school.

Obama's campaign did not return repeated WND phone calls and e-mail queries the past week asking for a clarification regarding the school documentation listing the presidential candidate's citizenship as Indonesian.

Obama spokesmen have in the past stated the candidate is a natural-born citizen amid rumors he may have been born in his father's home country of Kenya, but the campaign has not addressed whether Obama became a citizen of Indonesia at any point.

Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the presidential candidate was two years old. Dunham and Obama Sr. are reported to have later divorced. Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, and moved to Indonesia sometime between 1966 and 1967.

It was not clear whether Soetoro adopted Obama, either in Hawaii or in Indonesia, but there is strong circumstantial evidence that he did as far as Indonesian law was concerned.

In Indonesia, which was under tight rule in 1967, Obama clearly took on the last name of his stepfather in school registration documents. All Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards, or Karty Tanda Pendudak's, which needed to bear the student's legal name, which should be matched in public school registration filings.

Following his enrollment at the private Assisi school, Obama attended public schooling in Indonesia until he returned to Hawaii at age 10. According to Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian citizens in public schooling.

Obama arrived in Indonesia at about the age of five according to most accounts, although it was possible he arrived at the age of six, according to a few sources. If Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama at age five or younger, than Obama would automatically have become an Indonesian citizen according to the country's laws in the 1960's, which stipulated any child aged five or younger adopted by an Indonesian father is immediately granted Indonesian citizenship upon completion of the adoption process.

Lolo Soetoro could have adopted Obama in Hawaii, although such an adoption would not have necessarily been recognized by Indonesia.

Indonesian law at the time also did not recognize duel citizenship, meaning if Obama became Indonesian, then as far as that country was concerned, his U.S. citizenship was no longer recognized by Indonesia. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen.

In a revelation that raised a few eyebrows, Obama last April disclosed he traveled as a college student to Pakistan in 1981.

"I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college – I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," Obama reportedly stated at a fundraising event.

The senator had not previously discussed any trip to Pakistan, either in his books or in scores of policy talks regarding Pakistan.

Prompted by Obama's statements, ABC News contacted the presidential candidate's campaign, which affirmed that in 1981 – the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University – Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. Obama then went on to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from that country, the campaign said.

Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, said the campaign, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule. It was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance. It would have been easier for someone to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship. The country's bylaws require any Indonesian citizen living abroad for more than five years to formally declare his intention to return, otherwise risk losing his citizenship status. The law does not necessarily mean Indonesian citizenship would be immediately lost. The law can be overruled by ministerial order.

Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, he stated he did not have any former names.

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« Reply #491 on: August 17, 2008, 11:07:22 PM »

Obama goes ballistic over Corsi best-seller
Issues blistering 40-page report challenging WND reporter's high-flying, No. 1 exposé

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With the wreck of John Kerry's "swiftboated" 2004 campaign in his rearview mirror, Barack Obama and his surrogates are wasting no time mounting a counterattack against WND staff writer and columnist Jerome Corsi, the co-author of the Swift Boat Veteran's for Truth's "Unfit for Command" and the author of current No. 1 New York Times best-seller, "The Obama Nation."

Obama advisers have been tracking Corsi's media appearances, quickly telephoning producers to react to the book's charges, and last night, the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign issued a 40-page response to the book.

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor accompanied the release with a shot at Corsi, calling him a "discredited liar who is peddling another piece of garbage to continue the Bush-Cheney politics he helped perpetuate four years ago."

"His is just one of what will likely be many more lie-filled books rushed to print this election cycle, which are cobbled together from debunked Internet sources to make money and advance a partisan agenda," the spokesman said. "We will respond to these smears forcefully with all means at our disposal."

"The Obama Nation" is ranked No. 1 among all books at Amazon.com and will debut at No. 1 on the New York Times non-fiction best-seller list next week. The book already has secured the Times' top spot for the following week, as the Democratic National Convention gets under way.

The Democratic National Committee has its own rapid response team to take aim at Corsi's book, with an e-mail  sent out yesterday saying, "One of the most vile smear peddlers of the 2004 election has found a new target. … We cannot afford to let Corsi get away with the same dirty tricks that fooled so many people in 2004. We can't rely on the media to hold him accountable – in fact, the sheer brazenness of the lies is attracting even more coverage. The media have shown that they aren't going to stop him. It's up to you to spread the truth. …"

At the time of this story, Corsi had not had a chance to see Obama's 40-page rebuttal, but he responded to the strong counter-surge against "The Obama Nation," a book with some 600 footnotes that portrays the Illinois senator as a radical leftist whose handlers are presenting him to the nation through a carefully crafted cult of personality.

Corsi told WND the campaign has largely chosen to respond to his book with a series of personal attacks.

"Derision and ridicule are the lowest form of argument, suggesting the Obama camp already has lost the debate," he said. "The Obama camp and its supporters appear to be in disarray over the book, responding almost irrationally with an endless string of epithets and insults."

Corsi charged Obama "has intentionally manufactured a cult of personality in order to discourage any attempt to examine or comment critically upon any aspect of his background."

"Critics such as myself are immediately branded as 'racists' to discourage readers from reading and evaluating the book for themselves," he said.

'Vicious innuendo'

Obama aides are feeding producers of Corsi's media interviews with a number of his past controversial quotes and insisting campaign surrogates, equipped with talking points, be allowed on the shows to counter the book, according to the blog Talking Points Memo.

The online watchdog Media Matters, which says its purpose is to counter the "lies" of the right, sent senior fellow Paul Waldman up against Corsi on CNN's "Larry King" show Wednesday night.

Waldman charged that four years after "Unfit for Command," Corsi "has come out with another book that is also riddled with distortions and falsehoods. So the question is, why on earth would anyone listen to what he has to say about Barack Obama?"

In a heated exchange, Waldman accused Corsi of "spreading this incredibly vicious innuendo."

Corsi shot back: "This is typical Media Matters. They bring you on the show and they bait you up, don't give you a chance even to respond."

Corsi told WND that Media Matters "has intentionally misrepresented my arguments so they can 'prove' as 'false' claims I never made, while proclaiming 'mistakes' over trivial points in the book they chose to nit-pick in support of their obvious leftist political agenda."

Prior to publication of Corsi's book, Obama created a website FightTheSmears.com to respond to a host of charges largely circulating on the Internet. A FightTheSmears "Action Wire" uses the campaign's extensive e-mail list to respond to charges.

An e-mail issued yesterday said, "Right now, vile smear-peddler Jerome Corsi is back with a new book of lies – this time about Barack Obama. ... We'll need the combined efforts of every member of the Action Wire to push back against this year's vicious Republican attack book."

Kerry's deputy campaign manager Steve Elmendorf told the Politico he believes that in hindsight, the Massachusetts Democrat's 2004 campaign "made a mistake in not responding more forcefully."

Elmendorf offered advice to Obama's handlers.

"It's on the front page of the New York Times," he said, referring to a Tuesday story on Corsi's book. "It's number one on the New York Times best-seller list. Right now, I would be very aggressive with reporters and factually going through the book and responding and making it clear that this is a bunch of bullsh-t."

On Wednesday, Kerry himself launched a website called Truth Fights Back challenging the book. It was accompanied by an e-mail to former supporters headlined, "Book on Obama Hopes to Repeat Anti-Kerry Feat."

'An agenda here'

As even a popular late-night comedy show has acknowledged, Obama has many defenders in the mainstream media, and some apparently have joined the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee's battle against Corsi's book.

The media watchdog Newsbusters, which responds to left-leaning media bias, pointed to CNN's treatment of the book Wednesday. In the segment, anchor Suzanne Malveaux worried aloud to former Clinton aide Paul Begala that Obama might not be responding fast enough to attacks against him, thereby "falling into the same trap as John Kerry."

Introducing the segment, the "Situation Room" host "didn't hesitate to make unequivocal claims as to the Corsi book's inaccuracy," Newsbusters said.

Malveaux said:

There's a new book out about Barack Obama, and it is not flattering. The facts are mixed with accusations about Obama that are misleading or just flat-out wrong. Yet despite all of this, there is concern that author's claims might catch on with some voters. Our CNN's Jessica Yellin joining me now, and Jessica, the author even admits that there is an agenda here behind this book."
Newsbusters contributor Mark Finkelstein pointed to the irony of expressing concern that authors might have an agenda, noting the invitations and respectful treatment offered anti-Bush administration authors such as Seymour Hersh and Ron Suskind.

CNN played only a brief clip from a Fox News appearance by Corsi.

The network's Yellin said Corsi's book "alleges Obama is on the extreme left of American politics and has extensive connections to Islam and with radical racial politics. This despite the fact that for months Obama's been explaining he's not Muslim."

But Newsbusters's Finkelstein pointed out Corsi doesn't claim Obama is a Muslim and, with regard to the radical racial politics charge, notes the National Journal's rating of his voting record as most liberal in the Senate and the Democrat's close ties to black liberation theology adherents Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Rev. Michael Pfleger.

Meanwhile, customer rankings of the book at Amazon.com reflect the sharp contrast of opinions: They either love it or they hate it. Of 555 reviews, 183 give the book a five, the top ranking, while 329 score it a one. The combined total for the three rankings in between is just 43.

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« Reply #492 on: August 17, 2008, 11:23:03 PM »

Obama's Jihad: Jakarta to the Whitehouse

How many Americans know that when Obama had his bloviating screed "The Audacity of Hope" was translated into Indonesian - the title went from "The Audacity of Hope" to "Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse". The man is dishonest about his Islamic leanings. From An American expat Living in Indonesia:



When I first saw the recently released Indonesian translation of Barack Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming The American Dream", over here in Southeast Asia I was completely taken aback not only by the violent imagery in new title of the book, "Menerjang Harapan: Dari Jakarta Menuju Gedung Putih", but by the fact that it was not really a translation at all, but rather a completely different title than the original book.

A correct translation of the title of Obama's book would have been "Keberanian Harapan: Pemikiran Untuk Meraih Kembali Impian America" which translates into "Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming The American Dream". However, the title for the Indonesian translation of Barack Obama's book is "Menerjang Harapan: Dari Jakarta Menuju Gedung Putih" which translates into "Assault Hope: From Jakarta to the White House".

The problem with direct translations is that often times they never make sense. The words "menerjang" (assault or attack) and "harapan" (hope or expectation) make sense when used separately, but used together, the term "menerjang harapan" makes no sense in Indonesian. But while the term makes no sense, it does however present a mental picture to the native Indonesian speaker, the imagery of a "hopeful assault" a "struggle for victory" or to put it more bluntly, a "jihad", or as the Indonesians see it, Obama's "jihad" for the Whitehouse. For the native Indonesian speaker, this figurative language creates a mental image whereas the translation of the book's title can actually come to mean "Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse".

Why would the publishers drastically change the title of the book for the Indonesian translation and make use of such figurative language? Your guess is as good as mine, but it would seem that Barack Obama is quite interested with promoting himself in Southeast Asia as a crusader for the cause of Indonesia's Muslims.

I've only just picked up the book, but judging from the changed title I'm sure we're in for a lot more surprises inside.
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« Reply #493 on: August 18, 2008, 12:24:58 AM »

The article states that Jerome Corsi, author of "The Obama Nation", is a reporter for WND. This alone tells me that it will be impossible to just dismiss the contents of Obama Nation as lies. In fact, I would assume that it's ALL TRUE. Anyone with common sense who has been conscious over the last months would have a huge list of serious questions about Obama. We don't even know what Obama's real name is yet or whether he's a U.S. citizen or not. I JUST WANT THE PEOPLE TO HAVE THE TRUTH! From everything I've seen for myself about Obama so far, I suspect that the truth will be UGLY! THE FIRST THING I WANT TO KNOW IS HIS REAL NAME AND CITIZENSHIP!

So far, it appears that everyone has given Obama a free pass on just about everything, and THAT CAN'T HAPPEN with a candidate for President. Everyone is scared to death of being accused of being less than politically correct. The TRUTH is more important, and at least a PORTION of the NEWS MEDIA needs to do some HONEST WORK for a change. They can start by proving the allegations against Obama as either TRUE or FALSE! ISN'T THIS WHAT THE NEWS MEDIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?
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« Reply #494 on: August 18, 2008, 05:56:15 PM »

Have you ever heard that a dog "knows" when an earthquake is about to hit?

Have you ever heard that a dog can "sense" when a tornado is stirring up, even 20 miles away?

Do you remember hearing that before the December tsunami struck Southeast Asia, dogs started running frantically away from the seashore, at breakneck speed?


Do you know that dogs can detect cancer and other serious illnesses and danger of fire?

Somehow they always know when they can 'go for a ride' before you even ask and how do those dogs and cats get home from hundreds of miles away?

I'm a firm believer that animals  - and especially dogs - have keen insights into the Truth.

And you can't tell me that dogs can't sense a potentially terrible disaster well in advance.


Simply said, a dog just KNOWS when something isn't right .. . when  impending doom is upon us . . they'll always try to warn us....!





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