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1  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: October 21, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.

 Hi and in Col  3:11  reads  , Where there   cannot be  Greek and  Jew ,  circumcision  and  un-circumcision  ,   Foreigner  , Scythian ,  slave ,  ( nor ) , but Christ   ( is )  the all things !!

 Please notice the Col 3:11 is the reverse of Gal 3:28  because is begining  with Jew and then Greek   ,  it Col 3:11  begins with there  CAN  NOT BE  GREEK  and that is because  Paul's message to only now primarily  to Gentiles as written in Gal 2:8  , and Rom 11:13  !!

 The  FOCUS  is now on Eph 3:8  !!

 dan p
2  Theology / Debate / Re: IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?? on: September 18, 2017, 02:14:31 PM
 Himand here is what I see in Rom 5:13 and 14 !!

 All should see that this is the  ONLY TIME  that a Human has  FREE WILL and will never happen again !!

 Why , because the text says soon , over the one's NOT  having sinned after the likeness of the transgression of Adam !!

 So what was the gospel preached at that time ?

 In Gen 4:4  is obviously that Abel and Cain knew what to bring to God ,as an offering !!

 Abel brought the firstling of his flock , a sheep !!

 Cain brought the fruit of the ground and God had no respect  , as Cain brought the  WORK  of his hands , like many do today !!

 So the you could called it , the  Gospel of  blood sacrifice ?

 The Pattern of the old creation was Adam  but the Jesus is the Pattern of the coming one ot New Creation !!

 So there is more than one gospel and I see 5 gospel through time , The Gospel of the Un-circumcision  ,   the gospel of the Circumcision  , Gal 2:7  the gospel ;preached to Abram  in Gal 3:8  , the Everlasting Gospel preached in Rev 14   and the gospel in Rom 5:14

 dan p

3  Theology / Debate / IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?? on: September 15, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
 Hi to all and when seeing other sites , they say that there is  ONLY  one Gospel  !!

 I believe that there is only one Gospel today , the Gospel of the Grace of God ! and saved  by the preaching of the  MYSTERY !!

 So is Rom 5:14 we read  , But death reigned from Adam  until Moses , even   over  the ones  NOT  having  sinned after the likeness of the trangression of Adam , who is a pettern of the coming  (* ONE  ) .

 My question to all is   How were people saved between Adam and Moses ??

 dan p
4  Theology / Debate / Re: Is love above faith? on: August 23, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
God is love (1 John 4:Cool.  Therefore, to have faith in God is to have faith in God’s unconditional love which enabled Him to offer His life as a sacrifice for those who hurt Him and were unfaithful to Him.  To have faith in His love does not mean that we merely know that He died for our sins (because even the devil knows that), but to put His love into practice; because, James (James 2:26) tell us that faith without works is dead faith. Furthermore, the scriptures tell us that love is above faith (1 Corinthians 13:2); love brings forgiveness of sins (1 Peter 4:8; Luke 7:47); acts of love are necessary in order to enter heaven (Matthew 25: 33-35); and forgive others in order to receive forgiveness (Luke 6:37). 

Therefore, is love above faith?

 Hi and in 1 Cor 13:13 it reads  , And now remains    faith   , hope    love    , these 3  things ,   but    ( the  )     greatest od these  ( is ) love  !!

 Why , because , when Christ comes back our   faith   and   hope   will  be made sight !!

 dan p
5  Theology / Debate / HOW WAS PAUL SAVED IN ACTS 9:6 !! on: August 09, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
  Hi to all and here is the third reason Paul was the PATTERN of  salvation for  TODAY !!

 Acts 9:6  And trembling and terrified , he said , LORD , what do you wish me to do  ?   And the LORD  said to him ,  Rise and go into the city and it will be told you what is necessary for you to do !!

 And Jesus was called  LORD , SIR  , MASTER  , SON OF God   and is Paul calling Jesus  LORD different this  TIME ??

 Read 1 Cor 12:3  Therefore , I make known to you that  NO  ONE     SPEAKING   by God's  Spirit  says Jesus  ( is )  Accursed  , and  No One is  ABLE  to   SAY   LORD  JESUS  except  by  ( the )  HOLY SPIRIT !!

 This then , means Paul was speaking by the Holy Spirit  !!

 This also means Paul has the  HOLY Spirit  because  Paul was saved at that point in Time  !!

 Thr first 3 verbs  ,  KNOWN  ,  SPEAKING   and  ABLE   are all in the PRESENT TENSE  and that means what happened then is  CONTINUOUS ACTION   forever and Paul is always  SAVED  !!

 The fourth verb is  the Greek word   SAY  and is in the  AORIST TENSE  and points back to the time that Paul called Jesus  LORD  !!

 So Paul was then  BAPTIZO / PLACED   into teh Body of Christ ,  1 Cor 12:13   , which is his second baptism  !!

 His third  BAPTISM  happens in  Acts 9:17 when Ananias  says to Paul  "  and might be  FULL OF HOLY SPIRIT  !!

 Please notice that Ananias did  NOT  say be  full  of  ( the  )   Holy Spirit  ,  BECAUSE the Greek ARTICLE  ( THE )  is  not in the Greek text and that means since the word  ( the ) is not  USED  Paul receives the  POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT   and that means Paul   RECEIVED  the Holy Spirit 3 DIFFERENT  WAYS  so count them before you get  UPSET !!

 dan p
6  Theology / Debate / SECOND PROOF THAT PAUL WAS SAVED BY THE MYSTERY !! on: August 09, 2017, 03:00:51 PM
 Hi to all and I believe in the verse that follow will show that Paul was the first one saved by Grace and the MYSTERY !!

 Gal 1:15  reads But when God was well pleased , the  ONE  having  SEPARATED  me from my mother's womb , and having called me by His Grace !!

 #1, The first verb is IT PLEASED / EUDOKEO   is in the Greek  AOTIST TENSE , ACTIVE  VOICE  and in the INDICATIVE MOOD  !!

 #2 , The AOTIST TENSE points to a once  only time point as to when Paul was called Gal 1:15 and also to Acyts 9:6 !!

 #3 , The ACTIVE  VOICE  means that the  subject , God  , separated Paul  from his mother's womb !!

 #4 The indicative Mood means Gal 1:15 is a  FACT  that it happened !!

 In Rom 1:1 it reads  , Paul a slave of Christ Jesus , a called apostle ,  Having Been  SEPARATED  for God's gospel !!


 #1 The PERFECT TENSE means that from the time of Paul being  separated  , called the AOTIST or the Past Tense and from then on it means Paul CONTINUES  to be an apostle forever as the PRESENT TENSE   means  continuous action !!

 #2 The Greek word  APHROIZO  can be translated by the following words  ,    SEPARATED  , LIMITED  or by  BOUNDARY !!

 #3 This means that   Paul  LIMITED  to only preach  the Gospel of God   and never preach the Kingdom of Heaven gospel !!

 dan p

7  Theology / Debate / WHAT 1 Cor 15:8 means for TODAY !! on: August 08, 2017, 06:43:56 PM
  Hi to all and 1 Cor 15:8 is just one of 3  proofs that the Paul was the the first one saved by Grace !!

 1 Cor 15:8 reads , And last of all  He was   SEEN / OPTANOMAI   is in the Aorist tense  , Passive  Voice   and in the Indicative Mood  , by me   also , as if it were an  UNTIMELY  BIRTH  / ERTROMA  !!

 #1, EKTROMA  means a miscarriage , abortion ot  OUT OF ORDER !!

 #2  Only Paul was a miscarriage  !!

 #3 The 12 born in  DUE TIME !!

 #4  This means that Paul was the beginning of the  Body of Christ  !!

 #5 ,Firist  saved by Grace as Gal 1:15  and Acts 9:6 have said !!

 #6 This also means that the  MYSTERY was born out of due time  !!

 #7  This also means  B O C  was born out of due time   and ETC , ETC  !!

  Like I have said  , this is just one proof !!

 dan p
8  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: August 08, 2017, 06:19:47 PM
So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.

 Hi and Gal 3:28   says THERE CANNOT BE / ENI   and is in the Greek PERSENT  TENSE  and that means that ALL  that are  PLACED  into the Body of Christ lose their  IDENIITY    because we are A new creation  " in Christ  "  Jesus !!

Col 3:11  is very similar to Gal 3:28 !!

 dan p
9  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 22, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
The correct answer is in the Scripture posted by Soldier4Christ.

 Hi , and the Ephesians verses I believe in , but you have not addressed why the 12 are  In or Out ??

 Gal 3:28 says  Neither Male nor Female , and that means no Americans or those abroad , Lose all Identity in the Body of Christ !!

 dan p
10  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 22, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
Eph 3:6  to wit, that the Gentiles are fellow–heirs, and fellow–members of the body, and fellow–partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,

Eph 4:11  And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12  for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:

Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

 Hi , and I gave one verse in Gal 3:28  that you did not reply to !!

 That is ,that in the Body of Christ   ALL   Lose their  Identiity and there is neither Jew or Greek , nor bond or free  Niether  Male nor Female .

So , those in the Departure /Rapture there are no Jews , and is very simple !!

dan p



11  Theology / Debate / Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 21, 2013, 07:37:45 PM
 Hi and there is no unity as to where the Body of Christ began  Nor  any Unity , if the 12 are out of the Body of Christ , even in Grace believers ??

 I see at least 4 reason why the 12 Apostoles are  OUT  , and one verse is Gal 3:28  is a killer verse !!

 What say you ??

 dan p
12  Theology / Debate / Re: women leaders and ministers on: May 21, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
 Hi , and I have never seen a Greek word for Deaconess in Strong's or in Vine's .

 Like always , many Greek words have more than one meaning .

 Many on the churchs that I have attended have a Board of Deacon , and some consider all members as Deacons or Servants .

In Rom 15:8 , " Now I say that Jesus Christ had become a  DIAKONOS/DEACON  of the Circumcision for God's truth ".

 There were no Deacon's in Jesus earthly ministry and that is why the translation here should be either  Servant or Minister .

 dan p

13  Theology / Debate / Re: Who has to repent ? on: April 14, 2012, 07:39:04 PM
Act 26:20  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

 Hi , and here is why I disagree with the Phrase I disagree with , and it is   "  DO  WORKS  "   meet for Repentance ??

 Rethink it  , "  DO WORKS  " !!!!

 How can dead people in Trespasses in sin ,  "  DO  WORKS  "  ??      1   Cor 2:14  for it is  FOOLISHNESS  to them and the bible is Spiritually  discerned !!

 dan p
14  Theology / Debate / Re: What 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 mean ?? on: February 07, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
 Hi Bother Jerry and the  CONTEXT  says it all .  dan p
15  Theology / Debate / Re: Is Matt 26:20-29 for us today ??? on: January 25, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Hi BJ , WHY NOT give your exegesis of Matt 26:20-29 , since you say that do not have the right Interpretation Huh  please do ,  dan p
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