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1  Theology / Debate / WHAT IS PAUL'S FIRST LETTER TO US ?? on: July 05, 2018, 03:22:25 PM
 Hi to all and Paul is the   WRENCH  in most people theology !!    I remember when a  Acts 28er ,  and  HYPER- Dispensationalist asked  when the  BODY  of  Christ began  and his answer  was  , the  Body of Christ  began when Paul wrote his   FIRST  EPISTLE  , and the  28er   never ask if that is so , what book are you talking about and that was  years  ago . about 25 years ago !!

Today there is the  Acts 2  , Pentecostal  position  , the  Acts 9   dispensational  position  , the  Acts 7  position the  Acts 11  dispensational  position , the  Acts 13  dispensational  position  and the  Acts 28er  dispispenationalists   as to when the  Body of Christ  began !!

Gal 4:13  reads  ,  But    YOU  KNOW    that through  weakness  of the   flesh  , I  PREACHED   the  GOSPEL  to you the   first  time  !!

 #1  I believe that this is Paul's    first  book  !!

 #2 , The  first  verb is   YE  KNOW / EIDO   and is in the Greek  PERFECT  TENSE  , ACTIVE  VOICE  and a INDICATIVE  MOOD  !!

 #3 , The   PERFECT TENSE  means that from the  beginning of  the   Galatians  salvation   CONTINUES  until the  end of there  lives and also means  OSAS  !!

 #4 , The second verb is  I  PREACHED  THE  GOSPEL /  EUAGGELIZO    is in the  Greek   AORIST  TENSE and proves that  they were saved  under Paul's  earthly   ministry  !!

 #5 Gal 1:15  when Paul was   SEPARATED / APHORIZO    FOR God's  Gospel  !!

 #6  Rom 1:1  proves the Paul was   SEPARATED / APHORIZO   which is in the Greek   PERFECT TENSE   and that from then on , Paul was  LIMITED TO only preach the   Gospel of  God  !!

#7  This is why the  Acts 28er  or  HYPER- DISPENATIONALIST   refuse to accept  Paul's  letter as to the  Body of  Christ !!

#8  Gal 4:13  also  refutes  Matt 16:18  !!

dan p
2  Theology / Debate / Re: DOES JESUS HAVE THE BLOOD OF MARY WHEN HE WAS BORN ?? on: June 05, 2018, 03:33:02 PM
I will not get into a debate over this with you. Too many people over think this with the intent to question His divinity. I will also say quite definitively that scripture is quite clear. The answers are there if one but reads it with the spirit of God. Jesus was both fully man and fully God. The Bible states that it was so and that was of a necessity for the requirement of salvation for all. A good place to start in this study is in Hebrews 2.

 Hi and the reason I  brought this post up is because , yes He is the God-MAN   but his blood had to not br  TINTED   by human blood as His  blood had to be  spotless to be  EFFECT and cleanse all sin and so  fulfill  Heb 9:15  and Pay for of Israel 's sins that were   COVERED   by Israel's sacrifices !!

 And also that there some who promote Mary as the Queen of Heaven and say Mary  is  sinless !!

dan p
3  Theology / Debate / Re: DOES JESUS HAVE THE BLOOD OF MARY WHEN HE WAS BORN ?? on: June 04, 2018, 07:35:56 PM
  Hi and I believe that we have a problem   IF   Jesus  has MARY'S  BLOOD   !!   WHY ??

 No takers here ?

 dan p
4  Theology / Debate / DOES JESUS HAVE THE BLOOD OF MARY WHEN HE WAS BORN ?? on: June 04, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
  Hi to all  and did  Jesus have  Mary's  blood when Jesus was  born ??

  What say you ??

 dan p
5  Theology / Debate / Re: DOES ANYONE HERE BELIEVE IN KJV-ONLY ?? on: May 07, 2018, 02:09:11 PM
I'll speak for myself and say no. The Holy Bible wasn't written in English, so the KJV is just an English translation. The KJV translators stated in the introduction that they used numerous older translations AND that the KJV is not inspired by God. They basically said that they did the best they could but knew there were errors in the KJV. The original 1611 version of the KJV had alternate readings in the margins. There were multiple versions of the KJV, and I'm using the 1769 version of the KJV.

I like the KJV because I grew up with it, but I also use the ancient languages, ESV, NASB, and others. I think that the ESV and the NASB are both better word for word translations of the Holy Bible. I will no longer debate this topic because it ends up in bashing good translations of the Holy Bible, including the KJV.


 Hi and I agree with you , that only the originals are inspired  , and many get up set if you used  OR  change any wor !!

 In 1 Tim 1:4 the KJV uses the English words  " godly  edifying  "    BUT  the Greek word translated  " godly  edifying " is the Greek word  OIKONOMIA  which means  dispensation ! and they also  words that bare in   ITALICS   are added words in English !!

 I like you grew up with the KJV  and I prefer it  !!

 If you could see what they called me , an SCAMER ,  MISTIC , BIBLE CORRECTER  and  other words , all other sites would  BAN THEM   , O  WELL !!

 dan p
6  Theology / Debate / DOES ANYONE HERE BELIEVE IN KJV-ONLY ?? on: May 05, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
  Hi to all and many  do  believe in KJV-ONLY  and that means to many , that the  KJV   bible is  also inspired and also means they believe in  DOUBLE  INSPIRATION  ?

 If you do believe that the KJV-ONLYISM  , there are about 160 translations , are all  INSPIRED ??

 dan p

 
7  Theology / Debate / GAL 3:28 VS 2 COR 6:18 !! on: May 03, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
 Hi to all and in 2 Cor 6:18 reads ,  And I will be a Father to you and you will be sons and daughters to Me , says  ( the ) Lord Almighty !!

 And Gal 3:28 says that their are no Males and Females for you are all one  "in Christ Jesus !!

 How will you reconcile these to verses ??

 What say you ??

 dan p
8  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: October 21, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.


 Hi and in Col  3:11  reads  , Where there   cannot be  Greek and  Jew ,  circumcision  and  un-circumcision  ,   Foreigner  , Scythian ,  slave ,  ( nor ) , but Christ   ( is )  the all things !!

 Please notice the Col 3:11 is the reverse of Gal 3:28  because is begining  with Jew and then Greek   ,  it Col 3:11  begins with there  CAN  NOT BE  GREEK  and that is because  Paul's message to only now primarily  to Gentiles as written in Gal 2:8  , and Rom 11:13  !!

 The  FOCUS  is now on Eph 3:8  !!

 dan p
9  Theology / Debate / Re: IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?? on: September 18, 2017, 02:14:31 PM
 Himand here is what I see in Rom 5:13 and 14 !!


 All should see that this is the  ONLY TIME  that a Human has  FREE WILL and will never happen again !!

 Why , because the text says soon , over the one's NOT  having sinned after the likeness of the transgression of Adam !!


 So what was the gospel preached at that time ?


 In Gen 4:4  is obviously that Abel and Cain knew what to bring to God ,as an offering !!


 Abel brought the firstling of his flock , a sheep !!

 Cain brought the fruit of the ground and God had no respect  , as Cain brought the  WORK  of his hands , like many do today !!

 So the you could called it , the  Gospel of  blood sacrifice ?


 The Pattern of the old creation was Adam  but the Jesus is the Pattern of the coming one ot New Creation !!

 So there is more than one gospel and I see 5 gospel through time , The Gospel of the Un-circumcision  ,   the gospel of the Circumcision  , Gal 2:7  the gospel ;preached to Abram  in Gal 3:8  , the Everlasting Gospel preached in Rev 14   and the gospel in Rom 5:14

 dan p

 
10  Theology / Debate / IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?? on: September 15, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
 Hi to all and when seeing other sites , they say that there is  ONLY  one Gospel  !!

 I believe that there is only one Gospel today , the Gospel of the Grace of God ! and saved  by the preaching of the  MYSTERY !!

 So is Rom 5:14 we read  , But death reigned from Adam  until Moses , even   over  the ones  NOT  having  sinned after the likeness of the trangression of Adam , who is a pettern of the coming  (* ONE  ) .

 My question to all is   How were people saved between Adam and Moses ??

 dan p
11  Theology / Debate / Re: Is love above faith? on: August 23, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
God is love (1 John 4:Cool.  Therefore, to have faith in God is to have faith in Godís unconditional love which enabled Him to offer His life as a sacrifice for those who hurt Him and were unfaithful to Him.  To have faith in His love does not mean that we merely know that He died for our sins (because even the devil knows that), but to put His love into practice; because, James (James 2:26) tell us that faith without works is dead faith. Furthermore, the scriptures tell us that love is above faith (1 Corinthians 13:2); love brings forgiveness of sins (1 Peter 4:8; Luke 7:47); acts of love are necessary in order to enter heaven (Matthew 25: 33-35); and forgive others in order to receive forgiveness (Luke 6:37). 

Therefore, is love above faith?



 Hi and in 1 Cor 13:13 it reads  , And now remains    faith   , hope    love    , these 3  things ,   but    ( the  )     greatest od these  ( is ) love  !!

 Why , because , when Christ comes back our   faith   and   hope   will  be made sight !!

 dan p
12  Theology / Debate / HOW WAS PAUL SAVED IN ACTS 9:6 !! on: August 09, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
  Hi to all and here is the third reason Paul was the PATTERN of  salvation for  TODAY !!

 Acts 9:6  And trembling and terrified , he said , LORD , what do you wish me to do  ?   And the LORD  said to him ,  Rise and go into the city and it will be told you what is necessary for you to do !!

 And Jesus was called  LORD , SIR  , MASTER  , SON OF God   and is Paul calling Jesus  LORD different this  TIME ??

 Read 1 Cor 12:3  Therefore , I make known to you that  NO  ONE     SPEAKING   by God's  Spirit  says Jesus  ( is )  Accursed  , and  No One is  ABLE  to   SAY   LORD  JESUS  except  by  ( the )  HOLY SPIRIT !!

 This then , means Paul was speaking by the Holy Spirit  !!

 This also means Paul has the  HOLY Spirit  because  Paul was saved at that point in Time  !!

 Thr first 3 verbs  ,  KNOWN  ,  SPEAKING   and  ABLE   are all in the PRESENT TENSE  and that means what happened then is  CONTINUOUS ACTION   forever and Paul is always  SAVED  !!

 The fourth verb is  the Greek word   SAY  and is in the  AORIST TENSE  and points back to the time that Paul called Jesus  LORD  !!


 So Paul was then  BAPTIZO / PLACED   into teh Body of Christ ,  1 Cor 12:13   , which is his second baptism  !!

 His third  BAPTISM  happens in  Acts 9:17 when Ananias  says to Paul  "  and might be  FULL OF HOLY SPIRIT  !!


 Please notice that Ananias did  NOT  say be  full  of  ( the  )   Holy Spirit  ,  BECAUSE the Greek ARTICLE  ( THE )  is  not in the Greek text and that means since the word  ( the ) is not  USED  Paul receives the  POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT   and that means Paul   RECEIVED  the Holy Spirit 3 DIFFERENT  WAYS  so count them before you get  UPSET !!

 dan p
13  Theology / Debate / SECOND PROOF THAT PAUL WAS SAVED BY THE MYSTERY !! on: August 09, 2017, 03:00:51 PM
 Hi to all and I believe in the verse that follow will show that Paul was the first one saved by Grace and the MYSTERY !!

 Gal 1:15  reads But when God was well pleased , the  ONE  having  SEPARATED  me from my mother's womb , and having called me by His Grace !!

 #1, The first verb is IT PLEASED / EUDOKEO   is in the Greek  AOTIST TENSE , ACTIVE  VOICE  and in the INDICATIVE MOOD  !!

 #2 , The AOTIST TENSE points to a once  only time point as to when Paul was called Gal 1:15 and also to Acyts 9:6 !!

 #3 , The ACTIVE  VOICE  means that the  subject , God  , separated Paul  from his mother's womb !!

 #4 The indicative Mood means Gal 1:15 is a  FACT  that it happened !!


 In Rom 1:1 it reads  , Paul a slave of Christ Jesus , a called apostle ,  Having Been  SEPARATED  for God's gospel !!


 The Greek word  SEPARATED / APHORIZO  is in the Greek  PERFECT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and a PARTICIPLE  !!


 #1 The PERFECT TENSE means that from the time of Paul being  separated  , called the AOTIST or the Past Tense and from then on it means Paul CONTINUES  to be an apostle forever as the PRESENT TENSE   means  continuous action !!

 #2 The Greek word  APHROIZO  can be translated by the following words  ,    SEPARATED  , LIMITED  or by  BOUNDARY !!


 #3 This means that   Paul  LIMITED  to only preach  the Gospel of God   and never preach the Kingdom of Heaven gospel !!

 dan p


 
14  Theology / Debate / WHAT 1 Cor 15:8 means for TODAY !! on: August 08, 2017, 06:43:56 PM
  Hi to all and 1 Cor 15:8 is just one of 3  proofs that the Paul was the the first one saved by Grace !!

 1 Cor 15:8 reads , And last of all  He was   SEEN / OPTANOMAI   is in the Aorist tense  , Passive  Voice   and in the Indicative Mood  , by me   also , as if it were an  UNTIMELY  BIRTH  / ERTROMA  !!

 #1, EKTROMA  means a miscarriage , abortion ot  OUT OF ORDER !!

 #2  Only Paul was a miscarriage  !!

 #3 The 12 born in  DUE TIME !!

 #4  This means that Paul was the beginning of the  Body of Christ  !!

 #5 ,Firist  saved by Grace as Gal 1:15  and Acts 9:6 have said !!

 #6 This also means that the  MYSTERY was born out of due time  !!

 #7  This also means  B O C  was born out of due time   and ETC , ETC  !!

  Like I have said  , this is just one proof !!

 dan p
15  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: August 08, 2017, 06:19:47 PM
So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.


 Hi and Gal 3:28   says THERE CANNOT BE / ENI   and is in the Greek PERSENT  TENSE  and that means that ALL  that are  PLACED  into the Body of Christ lose their  IDENIITY    because we are A new creation  " in Christ  "  Jesus !!

Col 3:11  is very similar to Gal 3:28 !!

 dan p
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