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1  Theology / Debate / Re: WHY DID JESU ACCEPT WATER BAPTISM BY JOHN ? on: April 13, 2023, 03:52:51 PM
We  should  all  know  that  THE  APOSTLE  JOHN  was  sent ,  first  to  be  made  manifest to  Israel  . there am  i  come to  baptizing with  water and  not  sent  to  Gentiles .

Peter  was  sent to  Israel in  Acts 2:36  and  38 .for  water  baptism and  REPENTANCE , and  what  Christ  have  to  REPENT  of , check  Gen  6: 6  and  7 to  see what God  had  to  repent  of !

 One  reason  Christ  accepted  water  baptism , was  to  fulfill  all  righteousness , so  what does  that  mean ?

 dan p

 
2  Theology / Debate / WHY DID JESU ACCEPT WATER BAPTISM BY JOHN ? on: March 24, 2023, 07:54:26 PM
Acts  2:38  says  Repent and and  let each  of  you be  BAPTIZED  in  the  name of  Jesus  Christ for  the  forgiveness of  sins and  you  will receive the  gift  of  the  Holy  Sprot ?
In  Matt  3:15 Jesus  says for  thus it  becometh us  to FULFIL all  Righteousness .

 #1  What  righteousness  did  Jesus  mean ?

 #2 Did  Jesus  ever  REPENT of  anything ?

dan p
3  Theology / Debate / Re: when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: April 01, 2022, 03:37:44 PM
 And I am on 5 different  web sites and talk to people all  around the world and reply to different points of view  like Calvinist , Covenant  theology ,  ETC

Is and 11 year old to young to for some of these  debates as I   attended a Pentecostal , Nazerene ,  So Baptist , GRACE CHURCH  , Adventist and some spoken in Tongues and many believe that  WATER  BAPTISM  SAVES .

 I do not believe I have done any thing wrong , and explain why I did something wrong and point out what scripture corrupted ,  PLEASE ?

 dan p

 
4  Theology / Debate / Re: when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: March 29, 2022, 03:32:46 PM
 And nhere isnwhat  Acts 3:20 ,  when Peter again  used the  KEYS  OF  HEAVEN  and here Peter is  LOOSING  , and verse 20  reads and  HE SHALL  SEND / APOSTELLO is in the  SUBJUNCTIVE  MOOD  which means that  God will  send Christ back OR  not send Christ .

The  Greek  JESUS / LESOUS  is in the  ACCUSATIVE  CASE and  CHRIST / CHRISTOS  is  also in the  ACCUSATIVE  CASE .

The next  Greek words  THE  ONE / HO  is a  DEFINATE ARTICILE  and is pointing  Only to  Jesus .

The  next  Greek  words , HAVING  BEEN  PROCLAIMED /is in the  Greek  PERFECT  TENSE , PASSIVE  VOICE  and is  a  PARTICIPLE  which is the word  HAVING  as  Participles always   end in  ING

 AND  before unto  YOU / HYMIN  is a  PERSONAL  POSSESSIVE  PRONOUN  in the  DATIVE  CASE .

PERSONAL  POSSESSIVE  PRONOUN  means refers to  things that  belong to a  specific  person .

The  DATIVE  CASE  , means it is the  direct  object ,

dan p



5  Theology / Debate / Re: when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: March 28, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
And I consider your reply not  valid  and do you say that Peter only used the KEYS  only one time ?

 dan p
6  Theology / Debate / Re: when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: March 22, 2022, 03:12:08 PM
 I see in Acts 2:38 , where  Peter  FIRST  used  the  KEYS o the  KINGDOM  of  HEAVEN and called on  Israel  to repent .

 Here was  then  LOOSING / LYO on  Earth  and the  LOOSING  in  HEAVEN  and if Israel  repent , Jesus would  come  back , as Acts 3:20 !!

 what say you ?

By the  way the  Greek word LOOSING  is in the  Greek  PERFECT  TENSE !!

 dan p
7  Theology / Debate / Re: when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: March 22, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
 I see in Acts 2:38 , where  Peter  FIRST  used  the  KEYS o the  KINGDOM  of  HEAVEN and called on  Israel  to repent .

 Here was  then  LOOSING / LYO on  Earth  and the  LOOSING  in  HEAVEN  and if Israel  repent , Jesus would  come  back , as Acts 3:20 !!

 what say you ?

By the  way the  Greek word LOOSING  is in the  Greek  PERFECT  TENSE !!

 dan p
8  Theology / Debate / when did Peter use the keys of the KINGDOM of Heaven ? on: March 14, 2022, 02:12:21 PM
 In  Matt  16:18 it says that thou art  Peter ,and  upon this  rock I   WILL  BUILD my  church .

 The  Greek words I  WILL  are in the Greek   FUTURE  TENSE .

 Did  Peter build a  church  ,  NO !!

In Matt  16:19 , Peter was  given the  KEYS  to the  Kingdom of  Heaven .

 So when did  Peter  use the  KEYS  to  BIND  and  LOOSE ?

By the  way the  Greek  word  BIND /DEO  and the  Greek word  LOOSED / LYO  are in the  Greek  PERFECT  TENSE , PASSIVE  VOICE  and  is a  PARTICIPLE .

 What say you ??

dan p



9  Theology / Debate / Why many people avoid dispensations , even some dispensationlists ? on: December 13, 2021, 08:32:44 PM
And here is what I see .

#1 They do not know and do not have knowledgeable  teachers .

#2 Do not know how Paul was saved .

#3 Never understand when Paul received thr  Holy Spirit .

 # 4  And some believe that we are under the  New  Covenant .

#5  And many believe we will go thru the Great  Tribulation .

#6 Many believe that Paul  Water  Baptized .

#7 Many say that the  Body of  Christ is the  Bride of  Christ ,

#8 Even when Jeremiah 3:14 that  Christ is married  to Israel and  Judah .

#9 Many still  fail to  see that Israel has been  set aside , 2  Cor 3:18 , Acts  27 and 28 >

 #10 Do not has a verse as how a Jew can be saved  today ?

#11, Never  explain how  believers , know why they will be  resurrected ?

 #12 Fail to see that even during Paul's ministry there were 3  Programs operating at the same time .

#13 And by  1  Tim 1:4  , that to be in the  FAITH you should  know dispensationalism .

#14 And many believers do not realize that the bible has MANY  figures of speech are called  ELLIPSIS , APOSIOPESIS , MELTONYMY and even OXYMORON andn there are many more . are just a fewof them .

dan p
10  Theology / Debate / Re: Losing Religion to Find Salvation on: July 20, 2021, 02:19:39 PM
Amen

 I wish that all could have been  there  in  person to hear the full message .

 dan p
11  Theology / Debate / Losing Religion to Find Salvation on: July 19, 2021, 02:08:23 PM
 The  story is told about a  man that fell into a  pit and could't get himself out .

 A philosopher came along and  reasoned with him why there are  pits in our  world .

A Psychologist came  by and  researched the  procedures by which he landed in the pit , and tried to help him to accept his  pit .

A religious man came by and told him to keep trying to pull himself up by his bootstraps to keep working at getting  out that pit .

A  Christian  scientist came along and  said ,  You only  think you"re  in a  pit .

A televangelist came by to raise 50  million dollars to  minister to his  needs and told him that  his lack of  faith led him to be in this pit .

A politician came by and  volunteered to start a  National  Pit  Elimination  Program

A county inspector said , Did  you have a  permit for that pit ?

An  optimist said  " Things could be  worse .

A pessimist claimed ,  Things are  gonna get much  worse .

But  Jesus  Christ came and   He  lifted him out of his pit .

Outside of  Christ , each of us are in a  PIT  we can't get ourselves out of , a  PIT  of  sin , death  , condemnation and  judgment  .

We are without strength and  unable to save  ourselves , and we each need  a  Savior .

Religion doesn't save anyone .

Only  Christ  saves , Rom 10: 9 and Paul  says , That in  ME  , FIRST / PROTOS  Christ  Jesus might show forth all  longsuffering for a  PATTERN of the ones coming to believe on HIM unto everlasting life .

This is a message by   Pastor  Kevin  sadler , of  BBS .

dan p

12  Theology / Debate / Re: WHO BELIEVES THAT PAUL WATER BAPTIZED ?? on: July 16, 2021, 03:17:44 PM
There is a difference in searching to insure that we have the correct word of God and that of debating.

To remove all doubt about Baptism in water and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. In Mathew chapter 3 we see where Jesus was Baptized both by water and has he came out of the water was then blessed by God with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Mat 3:1  In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 
Mat 3:2  And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 
Mat 3:3  For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 
Mat 3:4  And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 
Mat 3:5  Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 
Mat 3:6  And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. 
Mat 3:7  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 
Mat 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 
Mat 3:9  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 
Mat 3:10  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 
Mat 3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 
Mat 3:12  Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. 
Mat 3:13  Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 
Mat 3:14  But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 
Mat 3:15  And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 
Mat 3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 
Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit cannot be done by man but by God alone. Man can only Baptize by water. We see in the following verses where Jesus tells his Apostles to Baptize in his name.

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 
Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 
Mat 28:20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

We are told to follow in His footsteps so as He was Baptized with water so should we also.

1Pe 2:21  For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

As for the reading of this in the Greek language... The Greek word for Baptism whether it was with water or with that of the Holy Spirit it is the same. The difference is that only one of them actually saves as we see spoken of in (Eph 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism) the other of which is the Baptism in water is only a public declaration of faith and obedience, the following in His steps.



And here is my last reply as to  1 Cor 1:15 .

Verse 15 begins with Lest   ANYONE /  UN  is a Greek  Disjunctive Particle , Negative and anyone can  google it and see what a  Disjunctive  Particle , Negative means and look up  G3361 and it means Not , Neither , and no one can than say that I had  baptized for  my  NAME .

Just check the  Greek text as I did and you will  see the Greek  word  UN .

dan p
13  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: July 10, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.

 I  did not say that Nor does the  text say that .

The  KJV says There is  NEITHER /OV  , Jew  nor  Greek .

 There is  NEITHER / OV  bond nor free .

there is  NEITHER / OV  male  nor  female .

 The  Greek word for  NEITHER  is the   Greek word  OV  which is a  DISJUNCTIVE  PARTICLE , NEGSATIVE  PRONOUN  and when you understand what that means that is a  FINAL  CONCLUCSION  it  is a  new  body  " in  Christ " .

dan p
14  Theology / Debate / Re: ARE YOU SURE YOU WILL BE RESURRECTED ? on: June 26, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
 And just last week , Im heard a knock on  my door , a  salesman and found out , he  believed in Baptism for  the dead .

 They believe in the  bible and also there Historical  book .

 But could not explain  verse 3 , Greek word HIS / AUTOS  which is a Personal possessive  Pronoun  in the  Genitive  Case .

 Or explain 6:4  NOT / OV  which is a  Disjunctive  Particle  Pronoun , which is NEGATIVE .

 Check  blue  Letter  Bible and all will see , what I saw .

 dan p
15  Theology / Debate / Re: ARE YOU SURE YOU WILL BE RESURRECTED ? on: June 25, 2021, 08:00:27 PM
And there are answers to  1 Cor 15:29 and we know that the  Sadducee , did not believe in the  resurrection .

1  Cor  15:29 is there for a  reason and I will present my explanation of it .

 Reading  Rom 6:3  that as many were PLACED / BAPTIZO into His  death .

And by the way the  Greek word HIS /AUTOS is a  Personal possessive  pronoun . And in verse 4 we were through this  BAPTISMA   (  which is the  Holy spirit which means that He is the only  BAPTIZER  )   in the age of  Grace , like in Eph 4:5  , called   ( ONE BAPTIZER  )

 So all believers That are in the  B O C  will be  resurrected , because threy are baptized for the dead , by the  Holy  Spirit .

 dan p
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