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16  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 22, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
The correct answer is in the Scripture posted by Soldier4Christ.



 Hi , and the Ephesians verses I believe in , but you have not addressed why the 12 are  In or Out ??

 Gal 3:28 says  Neither Male nor Female , and that means no Americans or those abroad , Lose all Identity in the Body of Christ !!

 dan p
17  Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 22, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
Eph 3:6  to wit, that the Gentiles are fellow–heirs, and fellow–members of the body, and fellow–partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,

Eph 4:11  And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12  for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:

Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.



 Hi , and I gave one verse in Gal 3:28  that you did not reply to !!

 That is ,that in the Body of Christ   ALL   Lose their  Identiity and there is neither Jew or Greek , nor bond or free  Niether  Male nor Female .

So , those in the Departure /Rapture there are no Jews , and is very simple !!

dan p

 

 



 Hi
18  Theology / Debate / Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ? on: May 21, 2013, 07:37:45 PM
 Hi and there is no unity as to where the Body of Christ began  Nor  any Unity , if the 12 are out of the Body of Christ , even in Grace believers ??

 I see at least 4 reason why the 12 Apostoles are  OUT  , and one verse is Gal 3:28  is a killer verse !!

 What say you ??

 dan p
19  Theology / Debate / Re: women leaders and ministers on: May 21, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
 Hi , and I have never seen a Greek word for Deaconess in Strong's or in Vine's .

 Like always , many Greek words have more than one meaning .

 Many on the churchs that I have attended have a Board of Deacon , and some consider all members as Deacons or Servants .

In Rom 15:8 , " Now I say that Jesus Christ had become a  DIAKONOS/DEACON  of the Circumcision for God's truth ".

 There were no Deacon's in Jesus earthly ministry and that is why the translation here should be either  Servant or Minister .

 dan p

 
20  Theology / Debate / Re: Who has to repent ? on: April 14, 2012, 07:39:04 PM
Act 26:20  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.



 Hi , and here is why I disagree with the Phrase I disagree with , and it is   "  DO  WORKS  "   meet for Repentance ??

 Rethink it  , "  DO WORKS  " !!!!

 How can dead people in Trespasses in sin ,  "  DO  WORKS  "  ??      1   Cor 2:14  for it is  FOOLISHNESS  to them and the bible is Spiritually  discerned !!

 dan p
21  Theology / Debate / Re: What 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 mean ?? on: February 07, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
 Hi Bother Jerry and the  CONTEXT  says it all .  dan p
22  Theology / Debate / Re: Is Matt 26:20-29 for us today ??? on: January 25, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Hi BJ , WHY NOT give your exegesis of Matt 26:20-29 , since you say that do not have the right Interpretation Huh  please do ,  dan p
23  Theology / Debate / Re: How many PLANS of salvation are there ?? on: January 25, 2011, 08:34:03 PM
 Hi BJ  , how is dispensation spelled in English in Eph 3:2 Huh?

 Is it  OIKONOMIA ?   

 I rest my case .  Maybe you need a new dictionary ??   dan p
24  Theology / Debate / Re: What 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 mean ?? on: January 25, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
What makes you think that Jesus is speaking of only an assembly of believers and not the entire assembly of believers, which is the body of Christ?  Which also begs the questions how do you differentiate between the Body of Christ and the whole of all believers?

And please it is not so much that I missed anything, but that you have not explained your position well enough.  Smiley

 Hi BJ , and my laptop quit working and a friend is getting going again and I needed some time to rest as , like many seniors I have medical problems .

 What most believers seem to always forget , is  CONTEXT and the Gospels are all written to God's covenanted people , the Jewish .

  Just look at Matt 26:28 , it is blood of the New Covenant

 Which was shed for the  MANY and How  MANY  is  Many ??

 So , who is He talking too and who are the  MANY Huh


 It is the Jews  and from your repeated questions , it looks like you will never understand what I write , o well .


25  Theology / Debate / Re: What 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 mean ?? on: January 20, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
Dan,

You may attempting to learn a little Greek, but I would also recommend you learn to post a point.  Your post is all over the place with no substance to let anyone know what you are really talking about.

You start with thisNow there is a lot to cover in Chapter 16 of Matthew.  I mean there is the Pharisees testing Jesus, Peter confessing to Jesus, Jesus foretelling of His death, and tons of minor details in between.  So what in Matthew 16 are you referring too?

 Hi Bother Jerry and am sorry that you are missing my teaching on Matt 16 . 

 #1 , THE WORD CHURCH in Matt 16:18  is talking about an Assembly of believers   NOT  the Body of Christ , and do you see that  BJ

DAN P
26  Theology / Debate / Re: What 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 mean ?? on: January 19, 2011, 07:46:03 PM
no Dan.  I should not have to explain anything.  You were the original poster here.  You were the one trying to make a point and you are the one who is failing miserably at that.

If you are getting something from verse 14 you should explain what it is you are trying to say.

If you have some other meaning than what the verse plainly states in verse 14 or verse 17 then it is on you to explain what it is you are talking about.


 Hi Bother Jerry , so do not debate , for this is what this site is for , and I am on many sites , best to you , as I will not demand that you debate , but it does look bad for you , dan p
27  Theology / Debate / Re: How many PLANS of salvation are there ?? on: January 19, 2011, 06:49:42 PM
Hi Bother Jerry and even when I explained what  OIKONOMIA  means in the Greek  you stumble at what Paul means by it , so let me clarify for you .

 OIKOS means House .

 NOMOS means Law .

 Check VINE'S  and clear it up /

 So what does  house law's means and what i8s Paul talking about so , lets give an example first .

 Under the Law of Mo0se they had 613 laws that governed Israel , agreed ??

 Under Pauline truth the laws the govern us are the following ;

Justification

Reconciliation


Indwelling Holy Spirit


Eternal life
 
New nature


Grace of God , that is what the Dispensation that Paul is talking about .


 These are what is  not in the Old Testament  dan p
28  Theology / Debate / Re: How many PLANS of salvation are there ?? on: January 18, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
 Hi Brother Jerry , so where were Dispensations created "  by man "  , and you wrote that and what do explain Eph 3:1-9 or maybe the Holy Spirit messe3d up by inserting 1 Cor 9:`7  where The  Holy Spirit says that  A   Dispensation  of the Gospel is committed unto me .

 Or , explain Col 1:25  " according to the DISPENSATION  of God that was given to me for you , to  FULFILL  the word of God .

 I would like to hear your answer !   dan p
29  Theology / Debate / Re: How many PLANS of salvation are there ?? on: January 15, 2011, 07:27:31 PM
Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 Hi Rhys , and you are saying what of the  OP Huh
30  Theology / Debate / Re: How many PLANS of salvation are there ?? on: January 15, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
it is still all one plan. Salvation through Christ.

 Hi David James and without the shedding of blood , Heb 9:22  , there is no forgiveness of sins , but the Law ,  New  Covenant and Grace are different !

 And God has earthly people and Heavenly people .
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