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56521  Theology / General Theology / Re:What does it mean to “be saved”? on: February 14, 2004, 04:44:36 AM

I've been thinking quite a bit about little children, how Jesus loves little children, and how salvation is described as a simple, childlike faith in Jesus. Men have stacks of books that involve highly technical doctrinal beliefs, but this thread made me think of what a simple, childlike faith might be that really is Salvation, pure and simple.

I'm visualizing a 6-8 year old child kneeling in prayer and saying something like:

Jesus, mommy and daddy have been teaching me a lot about you. I learned about your life and what you did for me in Sunday School and from mommy and daddy.

Jesus, I believe you died on the cross for bad people, and I've been bad. I know you are God and you live in heaven, but I believe You will come live inside of me and forgive me for all of the bad things I've done. I'm real sorry about the bad things I've done. Daddy told me I could talk to you whenever I wanted to and that you would be my Father in Heaven if I believe in you and ask you. Jesus, I do believe in you, and I want you to be with me for the rest of my life. Jesus, would you forgive me for all the bad things I've done and come live in my heart?


Are there any technicalities here and missing PHDs, or do you think that Jesus took this little boy?

Love In Christ,
56522  Theology / Bible Study / Re:Two Minutes With The Bible on: February 14, 2004, 04:04:21 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Ambassador4Christ,

I wanted to tell you how much I enjoy the materials from the Berean Bible Society. You might remember that I subscribed some time ago. It is the same Berean Bible Society that furnished Bible study material for our Sunday School over 50 years ago. Their materials and studies are great. I might add their web site has wonderful materials and studies for Christians of various ages and levels of maturity.

I'm almost sure that I thanked you for making me aware that the Berean Bible Society is still running strong. Thanks Brother! I get their daily Email material and their material by mail. I plan to help them with whatever financial support I can and hope they are still running strong 50 - 100 years from now.

Love In Christ,
56523  Theology / General Theology / Re:The Jews. on: February 14, 2004, 03:49:06 AM
This is a fascinating but difficult topic. To understand it, I think we must forget about what man thinks and concentrate on what God thinks and what is taught in HIS WORD.

Before their rejection of Jesus, the Jews were God's chosen people (HIS own - Israel). Almighty God made covenants with his own, Israel, and God will honor and fulfill those covenants he made, regardless of their rejection of Jesus.

After Israel's rejection of Jesus, things get much more complicated. Some in Israel accepted Jesus and are New Covenant Christians. The Gentiles who accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour are also New Covenant Christians. In Biblical terms, it is correct for a Christian to say they are a chosen people and a Jew, but man will not understand or accept this.

This would make a great Bible Study. Almighty God will certainly fulfill HIS promises to Israel and HIS promises to HIS children of the New Covenant. Petro has already said it, God's children are Jews. In the eyes of men, minus the Biblical teaching, Jews are unbelievers, a race and ethnic origin that can be traced back to the Israel of old. Please, don't anyone get angry about this. It would be a difficult Bible study and impossible for men to understand without the Holy Bible.

Love In Christ,
56524  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our Soldiers on: February 14, 2004, 03:07:25 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Paul2,

THANKS BROTHER! I will definitely relay your thanks to my son and many other fine young men and women. This is also something I feel strongly about. I pray that we as a nation never treat our returning Armed Services like we did those returning from Viet Nam. Hug a soldier - smack a politician or movie star in the chops.

I think it's fine for the movie stars and politicians to debate all they want. When our sons and daughters boots are on the ground in service, it is time for the entire nation to give them whatever they need to win, survive, and come home. As a nation, that would certainly include support and whatever sacrifices we might have to make, be it gasoline rationing or whatever else it takes. This may be a sore subject for some folks. If so, it's the politicians and movie stars who deserve a smack in the chops, not the men and women who are carrying out their oath in honor.

Love In Christ,
56525  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our Soldiers on: February 14, 2004, 12:51:25 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to All,

I grew up with military families because my home has always been Lawton/Ft. Sill. I've had a chance to visit with many sharp folks in the Armed Services, including my son.

My son was talking about the long hours, and I do mean long. He's on an aircraft carrier, and he thought he had it easy because of not having to deal with bullets being fired at him and all the blowing sand. I've asked him and others how they feel about their mission, and I was very proud of the answers. Generally, everyone works as a team in a 100% effort to try to make sure their children and grandchildren don't have to fight terrorists on our streets of America. I think they are right, and I'm proud of them. All of them have critical job functions, regardless of whether they serve in the desert with a rifle or cook the meals.

Sincereheart, we should all be shedding a few tears and praying that God watches over them.

Love In Christ,
56526  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our Soldiers on: February 14, 2004, 12:25:35 AM
JudgeNot, me thinks that we just got zinged by Reba.   Cheesy

Reba, actually, my son taught me everything I know about pantyhose.   Cheesy   I had always wondered what those where, and then I found out they were used by soldiers in the desert.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.   Grin

Love In Christ,
56527  Welcome / About You! / Re:I'm new!! on: February 14, 2004, 12:13:31 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Palmoni,

Brother, I look forward to our fellowship. I also belong to an independent church. Our beliefs are pretty close to the Berean Bible Society. Regardless, you will find a lot of sweet Christians here from various denominations. I like the little brick and mortar church I go to, but I actually belong to the Church Which Is The Body of Christ.

Love In Christ,
56528  Theology / Bible Study / Re:Bible Facts! on: February 13, 2004, 08:48:35 AM
Thanks Brother Petro,

I'm positive that I missed many beautiful portions of Scripture. Isaiah is definitely a beautiful Book.

Brother, please feel free to join in. I would love to read and study the Bible facts that are the favorites of others.

Love In Christ,
56529  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our Soldiers on: February 13, 2004, 08:10:18 AM
Sister Reba,

I almost missed that beautiful letter from Paul Beiring. It was a real blessing, and I appreciate you sharing it with us. He is with Jesus, but it is always so hard for the families and friends. We recently had a memorial service for 8 Ft. Sill soldiers all killed on the same day. It is heart breaking.

Love In Christ,
56530  Theology / Bible Study / Re:I supposed I knew my Bible... on: February 13, 2004, 07:07:03 AM
Amen Brothers and Sisters!

I would like to second JudgeNot's double DITTO on A4C's post, but now I'm confused. I got out my scientific calculator and squared the cosign of the tangent exponentially and came out with two different answers = either three DITTOS or four DITTOS.   Cheesy

I have a lengthy list of topics and portions of the Bible I want to study. I'm fairly slow because I like to use contrasts and comparisons most of the time. There are other times when I simply enjoy reading a favorite portion, chapter, or book of the Bible.

I am completely spoiled in using a Bible Study Software package called e-Sword. I use the larger fonts and love the click and go to contrasts and comparisons. Brother Petro, you can flog me with wet noodles, but I enjoy the built-in dictionaries, commentaries, topic studies, language functions, supporting ancient history, and maps. It's probably slower the way I like to study, but I've got plenty of time and really enjoy it. I have a house full of books, but my eyes get tired pretty quickly with the small prints. In fact, my brothers and I own a large library of old and rare Bible study books that were passed down through several generations of preachers. Some of the books are 200 or more years old. One room of our church is set aside for everyone in the congregation to use.

Brother Petro, I understand your objection to using texts other than the Holy Bible and various study aids, and it might be detrimental for some people. However, for me, I would have to disagree and say that selected study aids enhance my study and increase my enjoyment of Bible study. Our pastor many times locks himself in our library and spends hours or days with various books, but the Holy Bible is always the primary source of study. The Holy Bible is also my primary source of study.

Love In Christ,
56531  Welcome / About You! / Re:I'm new!! on: February 13, 2004, 05:36:39 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Palmoni,

It sounds like you really enjoy studying God's Word. We are happy to have you. Is the Berean Research Center where you teach connected to the Berean Bible Society? If so, I love their materials and receive quite a blessing from them daily. Regardless, the term "Berean" indicates a workman who loves to study HIS WORD.

I sincerely hope you enjoy Christians Unite and look forward to our fellowship.

Jump in and have some fun.

Love In Christ,
56532  Welcome / About You! / Re:I'm new!! on: February 13, 2004, 05:23:17 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to TwinkleDust007,

YES!, another Okie - we have a small army now. I think there are three of us on Christians Unite now. Obviously, all of the Universities in Oklahoma are the finest in the world.

We also have a growing number of young adults on Christians Unite, many more than three. I'm one of the resident grandpas, and I sincerely hope you enjoy Christians Unite.

By the way, please don't pay any attention to what some of the Texans on the forum say about Oklahoma. They are just jealous, and they should be.   Grin

Love In Christ,
56533  Theology / General Theology / Re:Voting and the election process on: February 13, 2004, 04:51:47 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Claudius,

I think that the point has already been made about where you live, what the system of government is, and what constitutes the ruler. If you live in America, the President of the United States is a servant of the people. Everyone else who holds a public office is also a servant of the people. Our system of government guarantees the right of free speech to the boss, and the boss is the people. The laws are our laws, and they were written by our hired hands and servants. They perform the way we want them to, or we fire them.

There are laws to protect our servants while they fill the office we put them in, but those laws do not prohibit criticism. Our laws to protect our servants address the more obvious things like violence against our servants, threats against our servants, etc. The original concept of America was quite unique and still is in many respects. America was to be a nation where the people were ruled by Almighty God. If you wanted to make a military or political analogy of a chain of command, Almighty God is the King of Kings who can never be impeached, voted out of office, criticized, cursed, or disobeyed. The next in the military or political chain of command is the people, and the last are the servants and/or hirelings of the people.

This WAS America, but as a nation we are turning our backs on Almighty God, disobeying HIM, disrespecting HIS rule, and rebelling against HIS ways. America is deservedly more and more in decline and face the loss of HIS blessing if it continues. In fact, America may face HIS wrath if we don't turn from evil and yield to HIS will and purpose.

Some who wish to hasten our departure from Almighty God might wish to debate some of this. If so, they can look in the mirror and argue all they want.

Love In Christ,
56534  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Our Soldiers on: February 13, 2004, 03:52:58 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Sincereheart & JudgeNot,

Thanks very much for adding my son to your prayers. I've gotten to meet and talk with many of his mates. I quickly got the impression that many of them are Christians, sharp young men and women who believe in what they are doing. I was not surprised at all to learn that many of them really appreciate our prayers. You can count on me to pray for all of our men and women in the Armed Services and their families every day.

I also learned that they really enjoy getting some of the simple treasures from home (i.e. school children writing notes and drawing pictures for them). There's also a large number of common, ordinary items that they have a real hard time finding or buying, especially for the troops on the ground (i.e. baby wipes to get all of that blowing sand out of their eyes, ears, etc., all kinds of skin creme, sun block, batteries for personal radios, etc.). Here's a little grin for you: women's pantyhose are a premium item they make all kinds of usefull things out of. Folded and rolled in various ways makes pantyhose great for covering the nose, mouth, head, and ears in sand storms. We have collection centers at Lawton/Ft. Sill, and the entire community tries to make sure they get what they want and need. Count on 4 to 6 weeks for them to get packages of non-critical items that are not military supplies. They love homemade cookies and things like that, but you really must pack them correctly for any hope of being fresh (i.e. vacuum sealed plastic bags, wrapped in tin-foil, and double-boxed). You can also count on a certain percentage of perishables being ruined by inspections. I forgot to tell you the troops on the ground also like: (1) super thin, flexible, and tight woven gloves with velcro closures on the wrist, something like (nylon?) Aris driving gloves with very thin strips of leather on the fingers and palms. (2) Here's a big one: all kinds of underwear and socks that protect the body and wick moisture away from the body (Gortex I think?). These are expensive and usually found only in stores or catalogs for hunters and police officers. You want the keep cool and dry variety, not the keep warm and dry. These are like gold for the troops serving in the heat and sand.

Wherever you are, your community, civic organization, church, etc. can adopt a unit of just about any size, a ship, an air group, etc. Your local Post Office can give you lots of good information about packaging and avoiding a lot of the problems. They can also tell you about collection points to ship it with like packages that might get faster delivery.

Brother JudgeNot, I think it is time for you to give up your pantyhose and send them to the men and women in the desert. Brother, I'm sorry to tell you this, you look horrible in them anyway.   Cheesy    

Love in Christ,
56535  Theology / General Theology / Once More on Grace & Spiritual Fruit on: February 13, 2004, 02:16:01 AM
Hoekstra Devotion - February 13

Once More on Grace and Spiritual Fruit:

He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit . . . the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering . . . .  (Gal_5:22-23 and Phi_1:11)

As the Holy Spirit works the grace of God in our hearts, the various aspects of spiritual fruit are manifested through us. "The fruit of the Spirit is  . . . kindness." Kindness is moral goodness and integrity conveyed toward others. It includes showing concern and consideration to people, desiring not to offend them. "Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another" (Eph_4:31-32).

"The fruit of the Spirit is  . . .  goodness." Goodness is quite similar to the preceding term, kindness. The additional perspectives contained in goodness would be acts of generosity and beneficence. This somewhat repetitious concept indicates the high priority that God places upon our treatment of others.

"The fruit of the Spirit is  . . . faithfulness." Faithfulness embodies responsibility and loyalty. It also comprises reliability and consistency. "Moreover it is required in stewards that one be found faithful" (1Co_4:2).

"The fruit of the Spirit is  . . . gentleness." Gentleness is explained by such terms as meekness and lowliness. Such quality of character takes on special significance when we recall these words of Jesus. "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls" (Mat_11:29).

"The fruit of the Spirit is  . . . self-control." Self-control is a fascinating subject, because it is not what it seems to be at first. Natural human thinking would assume it refers to self keeping self under control. Such a description would have to be listed under the previous verses pertaining to "the works of the flesh" (Gal_5:19). Here, it describes the Spirit of God maintaining control over our lives.

When we reflect upon the fruit of the Spirit, the character of Christ typically comes to mind. This is appropriate, since godly fruit comes to us through the presence of Jesus in our lives. "Being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God." When we depend upon the Holy Spirit, He imparts the life of Jesus, our true vine, into and through our experience. The character of Christ is then seen in us. Consequently, all glory and praise goes to God!

Dear Lord Jesus, how I long to be more like You. I can easily be selfish, inconsistent, or out of control. I see that  only Your Holy Spirit working in me can bring the necessary fruit. Lord, I pray, work deeply in me by Your irreplaceable grace, for Your glory and praise, Amen.
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