I'm no political scientists myself.I do know political history for the United States and as it is placed in the Bible. That is enough for me to feel that I have enough of a knowledge to be an effective voice. Just how effective that voice is will be up to God but it is something that I feel that I must do. Fight the good fight.

[HE IS ALL ONE AND THE SAME]

Michael Servetus
is well known for
using  his human reasoning power to reject  scripture's teaching
on One true God in three person's.
John 20:17
........................

Hopefuly none of us will not be  so reasonable .

Christianity needs "not" to be made "reasonable".
for it is human  reason that  needs to be made more Christian.
Romans 11:33-36

human  reason needs to hold it self "captive to Scripture".
Gods word! 2 corinthians 10:5

Pastor Roger,

Prove to me how Servetus in regard with his view in God reject the scriptures teaching?

I think the Trinity teaching is more by product of human reason, and even become unreasonable doctrine.

I never said anything about Servetus or his teachings nor do I intend to do so. There are some people that twist the teachings of the Trinity into something that it is not nor has it ever been.

The teaching of the Trinity is very often misunderstood. Some think that it is the teaching of three separate gods. It is not three separate gods. It is ONE GOD in three manisfestations, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Even though the word "Trinity" is not used in the Bible it does teach us just this .... ONE GOD in three different manifestations. Just because this word was not used in the Bible does not make it false. There are many words used today that were not used in the Bible. It does not make them false unless the meaning behind them, the context, is false.

Another example is calling the beast of Revelations the anti-Christ. There are those that will dispute this unendingly. Anti-Christ means to be against Christ. The beast of Revelations is against Christ and all that is Christ therefore it is also ANTI-CHRIST.

Some go so far as to say that you can only use the word Yeshua when referring to Him. Others say it must be YHWH and to use any other name is blasphemy.

Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Jehoshua, God, YHWH, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit or hundreds of others,

HE IS ALL ONE AND THE SAME

When it comes to politics I am not the least bit hesitant to say what I think and you are right "There has very definitely been a breakdown in character, both personally and nationally." Our country and its politicians have changed dramatically and for the most part it is for the worst.

Both parties of the '50s are different than they are now. The Democratic party has changed the most drastically leaning way far into socialism. Both parties have made many consessions, compromising their platform in order to attempt to gain more public support through swaying toward what they think the general public opinion to be.

Christianity needs "not" to be made "reasonable".
for it is human  reason that  needs to be made more Christian.
Romans 11:33-36

human  reason needs to hold it self "captive to Scripture".
Gods word! 2 corinthians 10:5

Amen.

Hi pocket,

I can't speak of the reason that this was called Christians Unite either. I do believe that it is possible though for Christians to come to together in a peaceful manner to discuss minor doctrinal differences. Please take a few moments and read through the forum rules if you haven't already done so. It may help with some of the questions that you have. The rules are located at the top of each segment of the board.

If you still have any questions please feel free to ask.


Moderator

There is no Democrat that is anything like Ike. In fact there are very few Republicans that are even the least bit similar to Ike.  The old General was definitely one of a kind.

[HE IS ALL ONE AND THE SAME]

The teaching of the Trinity is very often misunderstood. Some think that it is the teaching of three separate gods. It is not three separate gods. It is ONE GOD in three manisfestations, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Even though the word "Trinity" is not used in the Bible it does teach us just this .... ONE GOD in three different manifestations. Just because this word was not used in the Bible does not make it false. There are many words used today that were not used in the Bible. It does not make them false unless the meaning behind them, the context, is false.

Another example is calling the beast of Revelations the anti-Christ. There are those that will dispute this unendingly. Anti-Christ means to be against Christ. The beast of Revelations is against Christ and all that is Christ therefore it is also ANTI-CHRIST.

Some go so far as to say that you can only use the word Yeshua when referring to Him. Others say it must be YHWH and to use any other name is blasphemy.

Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Jehoshua, God, YHWH, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit or hundreds of others, HE IS ALL ONE AND THE SAME

A Democrat whose eyes have been opened.

I agree with the General. Political debates have little effect on the Troops. It is when it becomes more than that as it did during Viet Nam, when the general public became involved with major protests, disrespectful attitudes towards the Troops and actual support and encouragement of the enemy. When political debates continue without resolve it always flows over into the general public causing more divisions and general unrest. It is time for more politicians to wake up, open their eyes and take appropriate action instead of causing divisions that will politically turn this into another Viet Nam.

My prayers are with you Cris.

Hawaii coast line collapses, lava flows

HONOLULU, Dec. 1 (UPI) -- A 40-acre section of the Hawaii Volcanoes National Park's coastline collapsed this week, producing a six-foot-thick geyser of molten rock.

The Tuesday collapse exposed a 60-foot cliff face, with the lava spurting from a lava tube that was ripped open. But the lava geyser was quickly disappearing as the molten flow hardened and began forming a new coastal rock bench, the Honolulu Advertiser reported Thursday.

The collapse was the largest since the Kilanea Volcano began erupting in 1983, the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory said.

The event started shortly before noon Tuesday and continued for several hours, accompanied by explosions, flying gobs of molten rock, and boulder missiles, the Advertiser reported.

The collapse opened an underground stream of lava that flowed from the cliff face at the rate of about four truckloads of lava per second, rangers told the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

State officials had kept visitors away from the area since June, following warnings from geologists of an imminent collapse.

Volcano Sends Plume of Ash Into Air Outside Mexico City
From the Associated Press
MEXICO CITY -- Mexico's Popocatepetl Volcano sent a gritty cloud billowing into the sky outside Mexico City early Thursday.

Officials warned nearby residents to protect themselves against the rain of ash the eruption will likely cause, and some was reported to have fallen on the town of Amecameca, in Mexico state.

he eruption sent a plume of ash almost 5 kilometers (3 miles) into the air, and was accompanied by about 30 minutes of light seismic activity, Mexico's National Disaster Prevention Center reported.

The 17,886-foot (5,450-meter) volcano has been intermittently erupting since December 1994.

In July, the volcano sent a column of hot ash 1.5 miles (2.5 kilometers) into the air and spat red-hot rocks. But it didn't threaten residents living at the volcano's base.

Third quake quivers Qeshm Island

The third earthquake measuring 3.8 on the Richter scale hit suburbs of Qeshm Island in southern Hormuzgan Province at 01:28 hours local time on Friday (2158 GMT) Thursday night.

The seismological base of Tehran University's Geophysics Institute registered the tremor in an area measuring 26.81 degrees in latitude and 56.03 degrees in longitude.

There are no immediate reports of any damage or casualty.

Earlier in the day, the island was rattled by a 4.3-magnitude earthquake, which caused no casualty or damage to property. It occurred at 04:04 local time (0034 GMT) on Thursday morning.

The first and killer earthquake struck Qeshm last Sunday with a magnitude of 5.9, killing 10 people, injuring scores of others, and flattening several villages.

Having an area of 1,500 square kilometers, Qeshm is the biggest island of the Persian Gulf.

The island is one of Iran's lucrative commercial and fishing ports. Hara Forest nestled in the island is a must-see spot.

The island has a population of more than 100,000.

 Earthquake Jolts North Sumatra, Indonesia   
      
An earthquake measuring 5.4 on the Richter scale rocked Indonesia's North Sumatra province on Friday, but there were still no reports on fatalities or damage caused by the quake.

The quake took place at 10:08 a.m. local time with its epicenter at about 3.5 degrees northern latitude and 94.5 degrees eastern longitude, Antara news agency quoted the head of Tanjung Perak Surabaya Maritime Meteorology and Geophysics Agency (BMG) Eddy Waluyo as saying.

Indonesia is located on the Pacific Rim of Fire, where the meeting of continental plates causes highly volcanic and seismic activity.

6.0-intensity earthquake shakes Pagan

By Ferdie Dela Torre
Reporter

Friday, December 02, 2005

A 6.0-intensity earthquake occurred 249 kilometers north of Pagan, but Anatahan Volcano's seismicity remains at background levels, according to the latest volcanic activity report from the Emergency Management Office and the U.S. Geological Survey.

EMO and USGS said the 6.0 tremblor occurred at a depth of 46 km. on Tuesday at 2:41am.

Citing a report from the National Earthquake Information Center, the two agencies reported another tremblor with a magnitude of 4.8 located 188 kilometers south east of Pagan at a depth of 57 kilometers on Saturday at 5:07pm.

Sporadic earthquake activity also recorded to have appeared on the Sarigan seismometer.

EMO said satellite imagery has not shown visible ash emissions since Sept. 3, 2005.

Two weeks ago, a 5.8 intensity tremblor occurred 160 miles north of Uracas.

In April 2005, Anatahan Volcano spewed out ash to 50,000 feet in its strongest historical eruption.