I am sorry but I don't really understand what is going on in this thread. Quite a few harsh words are going on but the questions asked are those that I wonder about, as well. I wonder about many things, that is why I hope to learn here.

I, too, wonder about salvation, though not necesarrily how the Protestant faith sees it but Christianity in general. As can be seen in my other threads and I also wonder if one needs to be baptized to be truely reborn.

I, too, wonder about things like people being so good in life going to hell because they may not have knowledge of Jesus or, like me, doubt from time to time, or wonder if they are worthy. The things going on in the world sometimes make it so hard to believe in a loving God, and in Jesus. Not because I feel that God should stop all the horrible things, but because I feel that people get so used to all the darkness and hatred and such that is around them, that something so good seems so hard to believe.

I admit I doubt, and don't know the answers to so many questions. I admit that sometimes I find my faith shakey because I fear I am doing things wrong in my faith so God and Jesus won't hear me, or sometimes even wonder if God does exist, though deep down I know He does..but still..(I hope I make some sort of sense).

And as for the Bible, I am ashamed to say that I can not make much sense of some of the quotes even, because of the way that they were written. How to find the right message when struggling with the words as they are? And there are so many different versions and translations of the Bible too, and people saying there are lost chapters, and what might they say?

All in all, Sleeker is not the only one with questions and doubts and simply not knowing things. I am sure many of us are looking for the truth, seeking knowledge. I know that I am.

Therefore I cannot understand the harsh words in this thread...

It is human nature to doubt things. Even Thomas, one of the 12 Apostles, doubted that Jesus arose from the dead and had to see with his own eyes and to actually feel of His wounds.

I agree with Bronzesnake that the best way to get your answers is one on one with a Bible believing Pastor at a Bible believeing church.

If you are not comfortable doing that or it just is not possible for you to do I would be glad to answer any of your questions that I can. If a person is honestly seeking answers, I am happy to help them find those answers in the Bible and to understand them.

He is not, but if he bases salvation on being a Christian who believes in Jesus as the Son of God, or to a harsher degree, only Protestants, and not being inherently good, then I've lost some (not most) respect of him.

Denominations (Protestant or elsewise) is not the key here. Denominations is something that man has come up with, teaching various doctrines and not necessarily the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. The Doctrine of Jesus Christ is what counts. No matter how hard we try we, while in the flesh, cannot be good enough to enter into heaven.

Rom 3:10  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Gal 2:16  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

I said before It takes more than just believing in you must also believe on.

Act 16:31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


I hope and pray for your sake that your respect for Him increases and not decreases.

Finally, was there a tremendous statement made when the President and First Lady walked in the open air without the protection of the bullet-proof limo?

I thought the same thing when I saw that.

 

It isn't done yet? It isn't done yet? It isn't done yet?

Can ya tell I'm anxiously waiting?

 

Bronze. How about letting all of us know when it's done. I already believe in creation without having any more proof than that of the Bible  but I would still like to see what you have.

Which is it my confused friend? are you an evolutionist - a Mormon - or a Christian? There is only one truth, pick a side and go with it, get off the fence before your bum gets sore!  

 

Evangilist put it quite well in another thread. That fence will be turning into a sword.

 EYOUCH! Talk about a split personality!!

Those who are wize will get to the "bottom" of that remark.

Bronzesnake

   

 

Bronzesnake

I have only one question...what does EYOUCH mean?  

EYOUCH = It hurts pretty bad.  

[no exception]

I am not being ignorant. The truth is one of the questions you asked was about Salvation. A Christian would have known the answer because the answer is what it takes to become a Christian.

I was wondering about the finer points in the Protestant stance of salvation.  I got them.  The main thing I was wondering was if there is an exception to some non-Christians for salvation.  You said there was no exception.  I believe that's just discriminating against them, in fact, a form of bigotry in my opinion, and is used as a threat to try and convince conversion.

Anyways, I'm a Christian.  It's that simple.

I'm sorry that you feel that God is a bigot.

 

This was evident from the start. Christians wouldn't have asked  such questions. They would already know those answers.

All right, now you're just being ignorant and ignoring the facts.

I am not being ignorant. The truth is one of the questions you asked was about Salvation. A Christian would have known the answer because the answer is what it takes to become a Christian.

Which is it my confused friend? are you an evolutionist - a Mormon - or a Christian? There is only one truth, pick a side and go with it, get off the fence before your bum gets sore!  

 

Evangilist put it quite well in another thread. That fence will be turning into a sword.

Bronze,

Told you he wasn't a Christian.

This was evident from the start. Christians wouldn't have asked  such questions. They would already know those answers.

energizerbunny,

Amen! I hope that you are not feeling as though her blood is on your hands. You say that you did witness to her. That puts it back in her hands.

Keep up the faith and the good works.

Praying for others to awaken.

[of which I'm a part of,]

Pastor Roger don't waste your time with this guy. Just look at the rest of his posts here, he's no Christian.
This wannabe future astrophysicist is a troll - there's no doubt in my mind that there's no mind in his doubt.  

Ahh...  I must've missed this post.  I'm Christian, and have been my whole life.  I don't get what my wanting to be an astrophysicist has to do with anything.  I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to gain a better understanding of the Protestant beliefs.  I'm also trying to represent those who have no other representatives (like Mormonism in the other thread, of which I'm a part of, and evolution in a different thread, which I do believe, but I try to show how it fits with the Bible).  

I'm both an evolutionist, and a Christian (not of the Mormon sect either).

 

Bronze and Shylynne,

I agree with you both.

I'll let the scriptures answer that for you as it is quite clear.


Mat 18:3  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

If he truly believed and truly repented of His sins.

Is there a certain way he has to repent?  Or could he just have said, "I'm sorry for what I did," immediately before he committed suicide?

Act 8:22  Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.


If the point that you are getting at is can a person wait until just before they die, living and doing as they want to until then and then repent, then I say read this:

Luk 12:42  And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
Luk 12:43  Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Luk 12:44  Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
Luk 12:45  But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
Luk 12:46  The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
Luk 12:47  And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Luk 12:48  But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.



1Jo 3:18  My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
1Jo 3:19  And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
1Jo 3:20  For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
1Jo 3:21  Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

I don't see where you got your definition of "cult."  I still think they are just really, really radical Christians.

The word Christian mean a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings. The Mormons do not fall into this category.