When does life begin?

[JudgeNot]

...let me tell you very clearly that being pro-choice is not pro-abortion.

     

[2nd Timothy]

Jennings: If you believe that life begins at conception, is even a first-trimester abortion not murder?

Kerry: No, because it's not the form of life that takes personhood in the terms that we have judged it to be in the past. It's the beginning of life. Does life begin? Yes, it begins

"Personhood in the terms that we have judged it to be in the past"??   Not sure I understand that.  

But, if I had been aborted in the first trimester, my personhood would not be here today?   I think he is just trying to appease both sides here.

Grace and Peace!

[Evangelist]

(Doesn't that verse imply we were spirit before we were 'life'? Or.. does it imply God knew we were going to be born?)

I don't know that it implies the existence of our spirit before we were "life" in the same context and connotation that it means to the Mormon, for example.

But.....since God is omniscient, it would certainly suggest that He knew all about us before we ever attained "personhood" (isn't that a namby-pamby way of saying something?)....or life.

Because of the Mormon conception of pre-existence (and the eastern idea of the same/reincarnation), I'm not really enamored with the idea of being a disembodied spirit floating around "up there" waiting to be put somewhere.

Simply, God knows us before we are conceived.....I would then take that to mean that He knows we are alive by His definition....not the Supreme Courts.

[ravenloche]

Even the scriptures tell us at conception. Look in Jer. the first
chapter and see when the L-rd called him to preach

[His_child]

What methods of birth control are acceptable for couples to use?