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Question: When does life begin?
Conception - 6 (75%)
Implantation - 0 (0%)
1 month after conception - 0 (0%)
Some time in the first trimester - 0 (0%)
Some time in the second trimester - 0 (0%)
Some time in the third trimester - 0 (0%)
Birth - 0 (0%)
Undecided - 2 (25%)
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2004, 04:15:50 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2004, 05:05:24 PM »

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Jennings: If you believe that life begins at conception, is even a first-trimester abortion not murder?

Kerry: No, because it's not the form of life that takes personhood in the terms that we have judged it to be in the past. It's the beginning of life. Does life begin? Yes, it begins


"Personhood in the terms that we have judged it to be in the past"Huh??   Not sure I understand that.  

But, if I had been aborted in the first trimester, my personhood would not be here today?   I think he is just trying to appease both sides here.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2004, 05:16:42 PM »

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(Doesn't that verse imply we were spirit before we were 'life'? Or.. does it imply God knew we were going to be born?)

I don't know that it implies the existence of our spirit before we were "life" in the same context and connotation that it means to the Mormon, for example.

But.....since God is omniscient, it would certainly suggest that He knew all about us before we ever attained "personhood" (isn't that a namby-pamby way of saying something?)....or life.

Because of the Mormon conception of pre-existence (and the eastern idea of the same/reincarnation), I'm not really enamored with the idea of being a disembodied spirit floating around "up there" waiting to be put somewhere.

Simply, God knows us before we are conceived.....I would then take that to mean that He knows we are alive by His definition....not the Supreme Courts.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2004, 05:28:22 PM »

Even the scriptures tell us at conception. Look in Jer. the first
chapter and see when the L-rd called him to preach
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2004, 11:50:35 PM »

What methods of birth control are acceptable for couples to use?
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