US Elections 2004

[Shammu]

My question:

"1. A woman is raped and gets pregnant; who wants a baby from this method?"

sincereheart's answer:

"The couple who have tried for years and can't have one? "

Give your head a shake. This is the most awful response and the most ridiculous statement I think I have every heard in my entire life. I nearly dropped my coffee in my lap when I read it! It virtually tells a <potential> rapist that its ok to rape as the woman might not be able to have a child from her current lover/wife.

I'll bet my entire life savings and my home that you'd think different if it happened to you.

It may sound ridiculous to you, you who are lost to faith. To some one who has faith, its not ridiculous.
Have you ever heard of adoption?? By your responce I would say you never have.........
I think you would loose your entire life savings and your home, to make that type of bet. Again it is a matter of faith.

[anduril]

"Have you ever heard of adoption?? By your responce I would say you never have."

Actually, I was adopted, right at birth. So, I know plenty on the subject.

I also know women who have been raped. Their lifes are forever altered. I can only image. Mental and physical changes a woman must go through. Its a woman's choice. Wrap your head around this one: would you rather have a woman go into a back alley with a coat hanger or have a doctor ready at a safe, clean place? Feel the reality kick in?

[sincereheart]

My question:

"1. A woman is raped and gets pregnant; who wants a baby from this method?"

sincereheart's answer:

"The couple who have tried for years and can't have one? "

Give your head a shake.

I am still shaking my head!

This is the most awful response and the most ridiculous statement I think I have every heard in my entire life.

Then you haven't had a lot in life to deal with!  

I nearly dropped my coffee in my lap when I read it!

Gotta be careful with that coffee- hope it's not too hot!  

 

It virtually tells a <potential> rapist that its ok to rape as the woman might not be able to have a child from her current lover/wife.

You mean a rapist won't rape someone if they know a woman can have an abortion?   Haven't learned much about rapists, have you?

I'll bet my entire life savings and my home that you'd think different if it happened to you.

You'd be homeless and broke!  

There are so many couples who can't have children who would be more than happy to adopt an innocent baby; and a child conceived by rape IS an innocent!

[sincereheart]

Actually, I was adopted, right at birth. So, I know plenty on the subject.

But not enough to realize that a couple would be more than willing to adopt a child conceived by rape?  

I also know women who have been raped. Their lifes are forever altered. I can only image. Mental and physical changes a woman must go through. Its a woman's choice. Wrap your head around this one: would you rather have a woman go into a back alley with a coat hanger or have a doctor ready at a safe, clean place? Feel the reality kick in?

I would rather she give the child up for adoption than to have the child murdered!
Let this reality kick in:
A woman who's been raped has enough to try and handle WITHOUT knowing that she had an innocent child murdered! Giving that child up for adoption gives her the option of knowing that she did make something good come out of something awful!
Rape IS awful! The fear and powerlessness of having something done to your body without your consent is horrible! To turn around and do worse to another life will only add to it!  
Rape has long term consequences. So does abortion. Neither are ever 'over'!

[Shylynne]

well said sincereheart!

I'll bet my entire life savings and my home that you'd think different if it happened to you.

 
You'd be homeless and broke!  
 
 amen!  

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

I think the following Scripture will be one on my favorites for some time to come.

Isaiah 5:20  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Abortion is evil, just as many other things are evil that some are trying to thrust upon our nation.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[anduril2]

sincereheart;

It's a woman's choice, being a woman you should appreciate that.

My Quote:
Actually, I was adopted, right at birth. So, I know plenty on the subject.

But not enough to realize that a couple would be more than willing to adopt a child conceived by rape?

I wouldn't notice or know the difference if I was aborted.

You may decide to carry a baby conceived by rape, thats your choice, just don't expect everyone to follow your choice.

DreamWeaver;

sincereheart's answer to my opinion (and many other people I have asked the same question) is ridiculous. You're right on one thing; I guess I never had faith in Christianity...nor do I want it. If you want to turn a blind eye to life then thats your choice.

Blackeyedpeas;

Quote: "
Abortion is evil, just as many other things are evil that some are trying to thrust upon our nation. "

This coming from a Christian with "Love in Christ" and " (aka: 357magnum)" in the same sentence?

[Shammu]

DreamWeaver;

sincereheart's answer to my opinion (and many other people I have asked the same question) is ridiculous. You're right on one thing; I guess I never had faith in Christianity...nor do I want it. If you want to turn a blind eye to life then thats your choice.

That may be ridiculous to you, but not to a Christian. See you are the one turning a blind eye, not me. You have a choice, the lake of fire or eternal life.  What you do will effect you for all time, after you die. "Torment" or "Joy," those are your only choices.

Oh by the way, my screen name is after the song, "DreamWeaver" by Gary Wright.

Go in peace with God
DW

[nChrist]

anduril2 said:

Blackeyedpeas;

Quote: "
Abortion is evil, just as many other things are evil that some are trying to thrust upon our nation. "

This coming from a Christian with "Love in Christ" and " (aka: 357magnum)" in the same sentence?  

I'm a retired and disabled police officer. I did 25 years in law enforcement. 357 Magnum was the name of my Christian and Law Enforcement Bulletin Board for many years, and it is also my handle on the Internet. A 357 Magnum was my duty weapon for most of those 25 years.

How about "anduril"? What is the significance of that?

[anduril2]

DW, with all due respect you are turning a blind eye. I have an open mind to everything, not just one aspect or one religion. As I mentioned before I think everyone is right. Whatever 'belief system' works for you is best.

BTW, I don't believe in the devil either, it wouldn't like my stubborn attitude or my self determination  

[Shammu]

DW, with all due respect you are turning a blind eye. I have an open mind to everything, not just one aspect or one religion. As I mentioned before I think everyone is right. Whatever 'belief system' works for you is best.

BTW, I don't believe in the devil either, it wouldn't like my stubborn attitude or my self determination  

No, my eyes are wide open. You are the one I feel sorry for.............

What are you going to do, when everything happens (prophecy), thats in the Bible?  

[anduril2]

Yes, your eyes are wide open however, they are enclosed within the limits of the Bible.

Don't feel sorry for me, I'm going to be just fine.

[anduril2]

anduril2 said:
How about "anduril"? What is the significance of that?

"Anduril" is the name of the sword Aragorn used in Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King.

The name has no significance other than I happen to really like that series. Great show, if you haven't already seen it.

[sincereheart]

from anduril2:

I wouldn't notice or know the difference if I was aborted.

No you wouldn't. But the one who had you aborted would.  

You may decide to carry a baby conceived by rape, thats your choice, just don't expect everyone to follow your choice.

My 'choice' would be to do away with rape AND abortion. Adding murder after rape isn't.  

sincereheart's answer to my opinion (and many other people I have asked the same question) is ridiculous.

Ridiculous? Hmmmm..... Sad that a viable option is considered to be so. But it makes it no less viable.  

If you want to turn a blind eye to life then thats your choice.

And I suppose you don't see the irony here?  

[Shammu]

I'm glad you answered sincereheart. Since anduril2, thinks a guy wouldn't know nothing about rape, or abortion.