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« on: May 01, 2004, 09:38:28 PM »

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 Do you think bush sending troops to iraq to destroy family, houses, lives etc was a good thing to do? Angry Huh
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2004, 09:55:28 PM »

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 Do you think bush sending troops to iraq to destroy family, houses, lives etc was a good thing to do? Angry Huh

Do you think it was a good idea for the world to ignore a madman barbarian who killed 1/2 million or more innocent people and supported terrorism around the world? This would not include the invasion of other countries and the hosts of people who were tortured and lived.   Huh
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2004, 10:03:04 PM »

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 Do you think bush sending troops to iraq to destroy family, houses, lives etc was a good thing to do? Angry Huh
a good thing ? no absolutely not. just the right thing to do..
its a good thing al gore wasnt president thank you florida Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2004, 12:59:39 PM »

Do you think bush sending troops to iraq to destroy family, houses, lives etc was a good thing to do?

Yep. You make it sound, though, like every other war in history hasn't torn apart families, houses, and lives. War does that.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2004, 05:57:41 PM »

Saddam was bad yes...but bush has done worse..he said he was going to free the people...but now look at iraq..
what has he done? what?
All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2004, 08:29:13 PM »

Saddam was bad yes...but bush has done worse..he said he was going to free the people...but now look at iraq..
what has he done? what?
All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?

Absolutely YES!

If I was younger and able, I would sign up and go myself. I would much prefer to fight terrorists on their soil instead of waiting for them to come again to kill our innocent women and children on our soil. It's really very simple. The young men and women in the US Armed Services fight to protect their families. Their hope is their children and grandchildren won't have to fight the same enemies. Their determination is that our freedom and way of life will be preserved. YES!!!!, there is a time for men and women of courage to stand up and fight.

Saying that Saddam was better for Iraq is like saying Hitler was better for the Jews.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2004, 01:03:59 AM »

Saddam was bad yes...but bush has done worse..he said he was going to free the people...but now look at iraq..
what has he done? what?
All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?
     Yes  Look at WW-2 it took years for Europe, Japan to recover, many more were killed & mained, but the alturnative is unthinkable.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2004, 07:03:21 PM »

Saddam was bad yes...but bush has done worse..he said he was going to free the people...but now look at iraq..
what has he done? what?
All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?

Yeah, I'm looking, but I don't see what you are seeing.

Don't forget, Forrest, that to the US's efforts, Japan and Germany are some of the most prosperous countries in the world now! It took years and years, but look how they are doing. Personally, I'm against all this American anti-imperialism...
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2004, 09:00:21 PM »

Saddam was bad yes...but bush has done worse..he said he was going to free the people...but now look at iraq..
what has he done? what?
All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?
You might ask why do some keep blowing themselfs up trying to kill the us soldiers, the sooner the terrorist let the muslims take cotrol and stop the killing the sooner bush will with draw and then he will spend billions of the us tax payers money to improve the lifes of the common folk so the can live free and equal. but unfortionatly that will never happen ,but that is what he would like to do. but the radicals do not want it to be .                        praying for all the soldiers and their children and all the inisent in the war,.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 10:18:14 AM »

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I agree with Blackeyedpeas too. Absolutely yes. Ya know I am really tired of the War is wrong, blah blah propaganda. There was "war" in biblical days too ya know. I am also tired of how so many people are content with what happened on 9/11. Like "Oh, it wasn't that bad....we probably deserved it..." That sort of attitude. Lemme ask you Muslim, did you have anyone who died in those buildings? A family member? A friend? Did anyone you know or related to you die on those planes or in the field that day? Just curious. Probably not, because you might have a different view on things. While the killing is unfortunate, we are not a cowardly nation! We stand up when someone attacks us & I for one am glad that I have bold president who does such. I don't ask anyone to agree with me, but that is how I feel.
May I ask you something Muslim? What would you had the US do? Give them a slap on the wrist & say "Now now, that wasn't nice...Next time your gonna be in trouble...." (Total sarcasm) I mean really? Sit back & just let it go? You think this is the end? That the 9/11 was a one time thing & it will never happen again? That is exactly what the terrorists want us to believe. Where we get so comfortable that it's never going to happen & then when you least expect it--AGAIN! In close, Absolutely it was & is right and I pray everyday for all the soldiers and I know we are doing the right thing.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2004, 10:21:55 AM »

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All I was asking was...do you agree with him going there?


Absolutely - if I wasn't too old - I'd re-don my Ranger gear and go fight.  Better your women and children than ours.  

The news of 9/11 resulted in people dancing with joy in the streets of a number of Muslim countries.  

NO leader from the Muslim religion stepped forward to condemn the actions or the celebration and to stop killing of innocents.  Until that happens, I have no choice to believe that it truly is a religion by the sword.  

I will continue to pray for you folks but I will also remain prepared to defend me and mine from an active, ongoing threat.

So - again - yes I think we should be there, and in Syria and  Iran and any other country that houses a religion that does not condemn suicide bombing and the killing of innocents.

And as a "By the Way", we have consistently placed our soldiers in harms way in a greater degree - just to ensure we don't kill innocents.  If we weren't concerned about that our response to the desecration of the 4 bodies would have been to destroy the entire city.



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And as a "By the Way", we have consistently placed our soldiers in harms way in a greater degree - just to ensure we don't kill innocents.  If we weren't concerned about that our response to the desecration of the 4 bodies would have been to destroy the entire city.

Instead it appears the response to was to systematically torture and sexually abuse prisoners - and take photographs to show how much "fun" it was. Reports are now saying that children were included in the torture.

Way to go.
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Instead it appears the response to was to systematically torture and sexually abuse prisoners - and take photographs to show how much "fun" it was. Reports are now saying that children were included in the torture.

Way to go.

Oklahoma Howdy to Broken,

That's certainly a horrible criminal act, and those involved should be prosecuted to the limit of the law. For the military people involved, that would mean Leavenworth Federal Prison, and that would be too good for them.

A tiny few have smeared the reputation and sacrifice of the many. It's also a horrible thing for the many to bear any punishment or disgrace for something they had no part of. If I were the parent of a young man or woman who gave their life in honor, I would be angry that anyone did something so gross and illegal that it cast a shadow on the honorable service of all. I would be demanding the harshest penalties of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. I'm not a parent who lost a loved one, but I demand the most harsh justice possible. The service of all but a tiny few has been in honor.

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2004, 09:32:43 PM »

“Estimates vary, but at least 80% of the Male prison population in the United Kingdom has suffered some form of sexual abuse, either as children or adults, and many men have been subjected to rape and/or sexual abuse by other prisoners, and in some cases, have also been sexually abused by staff in the jails.”
Source: survivorsswindon.com

Statistics for the U.S. are similar, if not higher.

My question:  Where is the liberal bleeding and outrage for those in our own prisons?  Does the victim have to be an Iraqi for it to be inhumane?  If you listen to NBC, CBS, ABC, BBC, CNN the answer is a resounding YES!  

I’m trying to put this in perspective.  OK – An army private committed prisoner abuse in Iraq.  So, we have a private who reports to a sergeant who reports to a lieutenant who reports to a captain who reports to a major who reports to a colonel who reports to a general who reports to another general who reports to a joint chief of staff who reports to Rumsfeld.  So that makes it Rumsfeld’s fault and he should be hanged.

Wow! It’s all so clear now!  So, if these incidents mean we should impeach the president and leave Iraq, shouldn’t similar measures be taken for rampant prisoner abuse in the UK and the US?  That makes perfect since to me.  In the UK they need to hang Blair for prison rape, then everyone in the UK (well – ok – only those who wear some kind of uniform – soldiers, police, postmen…) must abandon the Islands.  It’s the only solution!  The same for the US.  Prison rape is rampant – we must impeach Bush and everyone who wears a uniform should run like a lemming into the sea.  That will insure peace and harmony among the masses.

Yep.  That’s the only solution.

(I once read about a liberal with common sense.  Of course – it was fiction.)  Grin

I hate election years.  I hate politics.  I pray for the soldier caught in the middle.  

May the Lord watch over them, protect them and and lead them not into temptation, but deliver them from the evil one.
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2004, 11:34:06 PM »

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(I once read about a liberal with common sense.  Of course – it was fiction.)  

I hate election years.  I hate politics.  I pray for the soldier caught in the middle.  

 Grin  Of course it was fiction!!, but we knew that already.

We need to take the high ground again. I think that our first step should be to send all the politicians and lawyers to an isolated island and send the ACLU to be their government.

There would be wailing and gnashing of teeth all over that island. It would be like Jerry Clowery up in the tree fighting a mountain lion and hollering, "SHOOT UP HERE AMONGST US, ONE OF US GOTS TO HAVE SOME RELIEF!"

You have heard Jerry Clowery, right, or is he just known in the South?   Grin   Grin  The above was a quote from Jerry.

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