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« on: August 18, 2020, 01:56:47 PM »

Hi and we see that Titus says nthat an  ELDER must be the husband of one  WIFE .

 I have seen Pastors and Elders ,  NOT  ALLOWED  ,  to be Pastors or that anyone  SIT  on an  Elder  Board because of a  DIVORCE .

 How do you see it ?

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2020, 04:29:14 PM »

Wrong verse, Titus 1:7 I believe is the verse that you wanted.

Dan, what if the pastor, elder is a widower??

1 Corinthians 7:8-9  I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Timothy 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully

Remarriage after the death of a spouse is absolutely allowed by God, I myself am a widower and have been a pastor.

The first qualification of an elder/deacon/pastor is to be “above reproach” (1 Timothy 3:2). If the divorce and/or remarriage had no biblical grounds, then the man has damaged his testimony in the church and community; the “above reproach” qualification will exclude him from the pastorate rather than the “husband of one wife” requirement. An elder/deacon/pastor is to be a man whom the church and community can look up to as an example of Christlikeness and godly leadership. If a past divorce and/or remarriage detracts from this ideal, then he should not serve in the position of elder/deacon/pastor. It is important to remember that, even though a man is disqualified from serving as an elder/deacon/pastor, he is still a valuable member of the body of Christ. Every Christian possesses spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:4–7) and is called to participate in edifying other believers with those gifts (1 Corinthians 12:7). A man who is disqualified from the position of elder/deacon/pastor can still teach, preach, serve, pray, worship, and play an important role in the church.

However if the divorce happen before he became a Christian, then that does not reflect upon his testimony

Bob
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2020, 07:02:46 PM »

Wrong verse, Titus 1:7 I believe is the verse that you wanted.

Dan, what if the pastor, elder is a widower??

1 Corinthians 7:8-9  I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Timothy 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully

Remarriage after the death of a spouse is absolutely allowed by God, I myself am a widower and have been a pastor.

The first qualification of an elder/deacon/pastor is to be “above reproach” (1 Timothy 3:2). If the divorce and/or remarriage had no biblical grounds, then the man has damaged his testimony in the church and community; the “above reproach” qualification will exclude him from the pastorate rather than the “husband of one wife” requirement. An elder/deacon/pastor is to be a man whom the church and community can look up to as an example of Christlikeness and godly leadership. If a past divorce and/or remarriage detracts from this ideal, then he should not serve in the position of elder/deacon/pastor. It is important to remember that, even though a man is disqualified from serving as an elder/deacon/pastor, he is still a valuable member of the body of Christ. Every Christian possesses spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:4–7) and is called to participate in edifying other believers with those gifts (1 Corinthians 12:7). A man who is disqualified from the position of elder/deacon/pastor can still teach, preach, serve, pray, worship, and play an important role in the church.

However if the divorce happen before he became a Christian, then that does not reflect upon his testimony

Bob

 Hi and I did leave out  Titue  1:6  where it says ONE WIFE .

 I believe that divorce is  possible by 1  Cor 7:15 if an  unbliever would say says I am leaving !

 Do you notice that Titus 1:6  says the  husband  of  ONE  WIFE  and not the other  way  and the ONUS  seems to be on the  HUSBAND .

 I am still looking  for a better answer , IF  there is ONE !

dan p
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2020, 10:01:11 AM »

When studying this subject we must not put emphasis on just a few verses but rather take into account the entire verses of the subject which is to include all portions that teach on the subject of marriage and/or divorce. We also should not forget that Paul was once a murderer and blasphemer before becoming an apostle and elder.



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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2020, 07:29:09 PM »

When studying this subject we must not put emphasis on just a few verses but rather take into account the entire verses of the subject which is to include all portions that teach on the subject of marriage and/or divorce. We also should not forget that Paul was once a murderer and blasphemer before becoming an apostle and elder.





 Hi and in Phil 3:6  , that under the LAW  , Paul was  BLAMELESS !

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