The Atheist Test

[The Crusader]

The Atheist Test
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The Theory of the Evolution of the Coca Cola Can

Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock.  As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on its surface.  As time passed aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab.  Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky, and formed itself into the words "Coca Cola... 375ml.” Of course, my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident, is to move into an intellectual free zone.



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The Banana

Note that the banana:
1.Is shaped for human hand
2.Has non-slip surface
3.Has outward indicators of inward contents: Green-too early, Yellow-just right, Black-too late.
4.Has a tab for removal of wrapper
5.Is perforated on wrapper
6.Bio-degradable wrapper
7.Is shaped for human mouth
8.Has a point at top for ease of entry
9.Is pleasing to taste buds
10.Is curved towards the face to make eating process easy
To say that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to say that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Test One
The person who thinks the Coca Cola can had no designer is:
A. Intelligent
B. A fool
C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious
 


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Did you know the eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings, the focusing muscles move an estimated 100,000 times a day, and the retina contains 137,000,000 light sensitive cells?
Charles Darwin said. "To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."  If man cannot begin to make a human eye, how could anyone in his right mind think that eyes were formed by mere chance?  In fact, man cannot make anything from nothing.  We don't know how to do it.  We can re-create, reform, develop...but we cannot create even one grain of sand from nothing.  
Yet, the eye is only a small part of the most sophisticated part of creation - the human body.
George Gallup, the famous statistician said, "I could prove God statistically; take the human body alone; the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen, is a statistical monstrosity". Albert Einstein said, "Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe - a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble."


Test Two
Do you know of any building that didn’t have a builder?
Yes   No
Do you know of any painting that didn’t have a painter?
Yes   No
Do you know of any car that didn’t have a maker?
Yes   No
If you answered "Yes" for any of the above give details:


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Could I convince you that I dropped 50 oranges onto the ground and they by chance fell into ten rows of five oranges?  The logical conclusion is that someone with an intelligent mind put them there.  The odds that ten oranges would fall by accident into a straight line are mind boggling, let alone ten rows of five.


Test Three
From the atom to the universe, is there order?
Yes No
Did it happen by accident or must there have been an intelligent mind?
By accident    From an intelligent mind
What are the odds of 50 oranges falling by chance into ten rows of five oranges?



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The declaration, "There is no God," is what is known as an absolute statement.  For an absolute statement to be true, I must have absolute knowledge.  

Here is another absolute statement:  "There is no gold in China."


Test Four
What do I need to have for that statement to be true?
1. No Knowledge of China
2. Partial knowledge of China.
3. Absolute knowledge of China.


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Absolute knowledge of China is the correct answer.  For the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China, or the statement is incorrect.  To say, "There is no God," and to be correct in the statement, I must be omniscient.  I must know how many hairs are upon every head, every thought of every human heart, every detail of history, every atom within every rock...nothing is hidden from my eyes...I know the intimate details of the secret love-life of the fleas on the back of the black cat of Napoleon’s great grandmother.  To make the absolute statement, "There is no God," I must have absolute knowledge that there isn't one.

Let's say that this page represents all the knowledge in the entire universe, and let's assume that you have an incredible 1% of all that knowledge.  Is it possible that, in the knowledge that haven't come across, there is a ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?  If you are reasonable, you will have to say, "Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God" In other words, you don't know if God exists, so you are not an "atheist"—you are what is commonly know as an "agnostic."  You are like a man that looks at a building, and doesn’t know if there was a builder.


Test Five
The man who sees a building and doesn’t know if there was a builder is:
1. Intelligent.
2. A fool.
3. Has an ulterior motive.
 


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Perhaps you have the questions that you hold back from faith.  

First, almost every question you have about suffering humanity etc, can be adequately answered.

Second, we have faith in plenty of things we don't understand. Did you understand the mechanics of television before you turned it on?  Probably not, You took a step of faith, turned it on, and after it worked, understanding the mechanics wasn't that important.  We accept that there are unseen television waves right in front of our eyes.  We can't see them because they are invisible. For them to manifest, we need a receiver, then we can enjoy the experience of television.  God is not flesh and blood.  He is an eternal Spirit—immortal and invisible.  Like the television waves, He cannot be experienced until the "receiver" is switched on.  

Here is something you will find hard to believe: Jesus said, "He who has My commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me.  And he who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him" (John 14:21).  
Either that is true or it isn't.  Jesus Christ says that He will manifest Himself to anyone who obeys Him.  
Approach the subject the same way you approached your first television set.  Just take a small step of faith.  If it works, enjoy it, if it doesn't, forget it.

Or have you an ulterior motive?  Could it be that the "atheist" can't find God, for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman?  Could it be that your love for sin is clouding your good judgment?  If the Bible is true, and Jesus Christ has "abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel," then you owe it to yourself just to check it out.  Here is how to do that:


Test Six
With a tender conscience, check this list of the Ten Commandments:
Have I always loved my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength?
Yes No
Have I made a god in my own image - a god to suit myself?
Yes No
Have I ever used God\'s name in vain?
Yes No
Have I kept the Sabbath holy?
Yes No
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly?
Yes No
Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)?
Yes No
Have I committed adultery (includes premarital sex and lust)?
Yes No
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)
Yes No
Have I lied (including fibs & these questions)?
Yes No
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)?
Yes No


If you have broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die," for the "wages of sin is death."  We are all guilty of breaking the Commandments.  Listen to the voice of your conscience, and let it remind you of some of the sins of the past.  We are not perfect as we are commanded to be (Matthew 5:48), neither is our heart pure.  On Judgment Day our transgressions will be evidence of our shame.  Think of it: God has seen our every sin we have ever committed.  We share our thought-life with Him.  We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

<))><

[Ambassador4Christ]

I liked Crusader

God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

AMEN!!

[grace]

Re. God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

Actually, Ambassador, I'm not at all convinced that this is what Jesus did for us at all.

Not less, but far more.

-Grace

[Allinall]

I just want to say Crusader, that you have made a mockery of evolutionary process.






And I LIKE[/b] it!!!!!!!!  

[Ambassador4Christ]

I just want to say Crusader, that you have made a mockery of evolutionary process.






And I LIKE[/b] it!!!!!!!!  

DITTO

[Shylynne]

LOL! absurd in the highest degree!  

To make the absolute statement, "There is no God," I must have absolute knowledge that there isn't one

well said crusader!


my incredible 1%  

[The Crusader]

I just want to say Crusader, that you have made a mockery of evolutionary process.






And I LIKE[/b] it!!!!!!!!  

Thanks Allinall  

[Brother Love]

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The Theory of the Evolution of the Coca Cola Can

Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock.  As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on its surface.  As time passed aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab.  Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky, and formed itself into the words "Coca Cola... 375ml.” Of course, my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident, is to move into an intellectual free zone.



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The Banana
Note that the banana:
1.Is shaped for human hand
2.Has non-slip surface
3.Has outward indicators of inward contents: Green-too early, Yellow-just right, Black-too late.
4.Has a tab for removal of wrapper
5.Is perforated on wrapper
6.Bio-degradable wrapper
7.Is shaped for human mouth
8.Has a point at top for ease of entry
9.Is pleasing to taste buds
10.Is curved towards the face to make eating process easy
To say that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to say that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Test One
The person who thinks the Coca Cola can had no designer is:
A. Intelligent
B. A fool
C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious



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Did you know the eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings, the focusing muscles move an estimated 100,000 times a day, and the retina contains 137,000,000 light sensitive cells?
Charles Darwin said. "To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."  If man cannot begin to make a human eye, how could anyone in his right mind think that eyes were formed by mere chance?  In fact, man cannot make anything from nothing.  We don't know how to do it.  We can re-create, reform, develop...but we cannot create even one grain of sand from nothing.  
Yet, the eye is only a small part of the most sophisticated part of creation - the human body.
George Gallup, the famous statistician said, "I could prove God statistically; take the human body alone; the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen, is a statistical monstrosity". Albert Einstein said, "Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe - a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble."


Test Two
Do you know of any building that didn’t have a builder?
Yes  No
Do you know of any painting that didn’t have a painter?
Yes  No
Do you know of any car that didn’t have a maker?
Yes  No
If you answered "Yes" for any of the above give details:


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Could I convince you that I dropped 50 oranges onto the ground and they by chance fell into ten rows of five oranges?  The logical conclusion is that someone with an intelligent mind put them there.  The odds that ten oranges would fall by accident into a straight line are mind boggling, let alone ten rows of five.


Test Three
From the atom to the universe, is there order?
Yes No
Did it happen by accident or must there have been an intelligent mind?
By accident    From an intelligent mind
What are the odds of 50 oranges falling by chance into ten rows of five oranges?



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The declaration, "There is no God," is what is known as an absolute statement.  For an absolute statement to be true, I must have absolute knowledge.  

Here is another absolute statement:  "There is no gold in China."


Test Four
What do I need to have for that statement to be true?
1. No Knowledge of China
2. Partial knowledge of China.
3. Absolute knowledge of China.


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Absolute knowledge of China is the correct answer.  For the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China, or the statement is incorrect.  To say, "There is no God," and to be correct in the statement, I must be omniscient.  I must know how many hairs are upon every head, every thought of every human heart, every detail of history, every atom within every rock...nothing is hidden from my eyes...I know the intimate details of the secret love-life of the fleas on the back of the black cat of Napoleon’s great grandmother.  To make the absolute statement, "There is no God," I must have absolute knowledge that there isn't one.

Let's say that this page represents all the knowledge in the entire universe, and let's assume that you have an incredible 1% of all that knowledge.  Is it possible that, in the knowledge that haven't come across, there is a ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?  If you are reasonable, you will have to say, "Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God" In other words, you don't know if God exists, so you are not an "atheist"—you are what is commonly know as an "agnostic."  You are like a man that looks at a building, and doesn’t know if there was a builder.


Test Five
The man who sees a building and doesn’t know if there was a builder is:
1. Intelligent.
2. A fool.
3. Has an ulterior motive.



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Perhaps you have the questions that you hold back from faith.  

First, almost every question you have about suffering humanity etc, can be adequately answered.

Second, we have faith in plenty of things we don't understand. Did you understand the mechanics of television before you turned it on?  Probably not, You took a step of faith, turned it on, and after it worked, understanding the mechanics wasn't that important.  We accept that there are unseen television waves right in front of our eyes.  We can't see them because they are invisible. For them to manifest, we need a receiver, then we can enjoy the experience of television.  God is not flesh and blood.  He is an eternal Spirit—immortal and invisible.  Like the television waves, He cannot be experienced until the "receiver" is switched on.  

Here is something you will find hard to believe: Jesus said, "He who has My commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me.  And he who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him" (John 14:21).  
Either that is true or it isn't.  Jesus Christ says that He will manifest Himself to anyone who obeys Him.  
Approach the subject the same way you approached your first television set.  Just take a small step of faith.  If it works, enjoy it, if it doesn't, forget it.

Or have you an ulterior motive?  Could it be that the "atheist" can't find God, for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman?  Could it be that your love for sin is clouding your good judgment?  If the Bible is true, and Jesus Christ has "abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel," then you owe it to yourself just to check it out.  Here is how to do that:


Test Six
With a tender conscience, check this list of the Ten Commandments:
Have I always loved my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength?
Yes No
Have I made a god in my own image - a god to suit myself?
Yes No
Have I ever used God\'s name in vain?
Yes No
Have I kept the Sabbath holy?
Yes No
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly?
Yes No
Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)?
Yes No
Have I committed adultery (includes premarital sex and lust)?
Yes No
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)
Yes No
Have I lied (including fibs & these questions)?
Yes No
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)?
Yes No


If you have broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die," for the "wages of sin is death."  We are all guilty of breaking the Commandments.  Listen to the voice of your conscience, and let it remind you of some of the sins of the past.  We are not perfect as we are commanded to be (Matthew 5:48), neither is our heart pure.  On Judgment Day our transgressions will be evidence of our shame.  Think of it: God has seen our every sin we have ever committed.  We share our thought-life with Him.  We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

<))><

[Brother Love]

God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

<))><

[alice]

Interesting views expressed here.

Very entertaining.


Love and Peace
Alice

[musicllover]

YES YES, very interesssting, rubbing her chin but thinking. Why a banana? Banana, Banana Banana, Banaaannnaaa, Banana BBBBB NNNNAAAANNNAAA.........you know if you say it enough times its sound real stupid....I shall change its name, to...... yellow thingy......., TESTING Ok I am hungry for a yellow thingy, may I have a yellow thingy cream pie, I love yellow thingy splits,
      You know I have concluded that Adam who I believed named this fruit had the right idea...... I conclude that
Banana it has been Banana it shall continue to be.
       OK my brain is tired, my few brain celss are screaming for a break.......think I go eat a Ba-na-na. Good name.
musicllover
 

[orcalover]

Yes, it is very interesting that you think evolution is a process of chance. Evolution happens by mutation usually caused by changes in the environment, although random mutations do happen. Mutations are almost always a dominant trait, so if the mutation benifits an organism it will most likely survive to breeding age and pass on it's mutation to it's offspring. Another thing that is interesting is that you think evolution equals atheism, which is not true because evolution deals with life already being there and explains why we see so much diversity in life. It does not disprove nor prove a god.

[musicllover]

Yes, it is very interesting that you think evolution is a process of chance. Evolution happens by mutation usually caused by changes in the environment, although random mutations do happen. Mutations are almost always a dominant trait, so if the mutation benifits an organism it will most likely survive to breeding age and pass on it's mutation to it's offspring. Another thing that is interesting is that you think evolution equals atheism, which is not true because evolution deals with life already being there and explains why we see so much diversity in life. It does not disprove nor prove a god.

I don't agree, evolution does imply there is no God, because it teaches something contrarty to the word of God. You can NOT believe in or have a six day creation if you believe in the mutational process that evolution proclaims.
     I am not altogether sure that muations are usually the dominant trait, it depends on the alelles, 2 recessive is will obviously produce a reccessive gene, but NOT if this is a dominant trait present er you go with the word dominant. Recessive traits will show up something 1 out of 5 times in some plants when they have been purposely crossed. So it would have to takes several generations to bring about mutations in the animal kingdom, also the mutations are not GOOD either. mutations in the human DNA will cause that DNA to be useless it can't pass on anything that is good on a large scale like in macro evolution, mutation in humans cause albonism, retardations, drawfism etc etc etc.....I find it very hard to say mutations caused something to get better.
     It does not explain how life already being here, as far as this so called process goes it began with one cell that some how or another mutatated and WOW after a long long long long we have this wonderful world and people and and and......no no no no can't believe in that and the creation of the world as describe in the scriptures.
forever standing on the word of God,
musicllover