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« on: July 12, 2008, 08:48:33 AM »

I hape veen watching recently on my BBC iPlayer a prog on the US Capital Building.  The grandeur and size of this building will blow your mind.  No expence spared when it was built.  President Washington was wealthy enough to get it built.  Then President Jefferson added to the splendour with so many beautiful sculpture.  I find especially with sculpture it gives great dignity to the heritage of the great people of the US.  Sadly this building was built by slaves.  That is the only problem so lets hoped they were treated properly.  Lets hope someone wasent standing nearby with a whip to keep them working.  Let my people go as this building was built as a symbol of freedom.  I symphasise strongly with all underdogs.  Anybody who is being unfairly treated needs help.  I get the impression that now today in the US there is more respect for everybody.  Maybe someone reading this can explain the latest on this.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 11:16:10 AM »

Every nation has somewhere in it's history at least one atrocity. Slavery is one that has blighted many nations around the world and still does in some. The U.S. was no exception to this. Thank God that there were eventually some good people that came forward to put an end to it.

Yes, there were slaves that were used to build the White House. There was an architect by the name of James Hoban that was hired for the White House construction that used 5 black slaves to help him on this construction project. Bladensburg Foundry provided a bronze statue to the White House that was responsible for casting it. The statue was a symbol of freedom around the world, the Freedom Statue that was placed on top of the dome of the White House.

A number of other slaves were used at quarries that provided material in the construction of the White House.

Although there are many laws today in the U.S. to prevent such travesties the hatred by both sides in this situation still lingers on in many. While the majority of people have gotten over it and learned to accept all people as equals there are those small but widely spread minority groups that just won't let go. The KKK and NAACP are a prime example of this. People just won't learn that hatred is a bad thing for all involved.


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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 01:53:50 AM »

I'm sorry for being so late in getting involved in this thread. It hasn't been that long ago that it wasn't unusual for people of any color to be slaves in one way or another. The term "indentured servant" is a perfect example of this. Many people didn't have the money to buy land, houses, and things of great value - especially when they were young and starting out. There wasn't any credit system like the one they have today, so many only had one thing to offer to get started - their labor. They gave "x" number of years of labor for a piece of land as an example. Another common example in the 1600-1700s was for payment of passage to escape oppression and tyranny. If you guessed escape to America, you would be right.

Another more recent example of something most people would call a form of slavery is share-cropping. This is really little more than working a piece of land in exchange for part of the crop. Whether this was fair or not depended on the land owner. My grandfather on one side of my family was a share-cropper, so this should give you an idea about how recent this was.

If one reads about early American History, they will find out that a fairly large percentage of the first settlers were slaves of one type or another of all colors. A fairly large percentage were also prisoners serving out sentences from England with their labor. I might add that many of those sentences involved religious crimes of heresy against the then Church of England. Many others were hunted for the same crimes, and this convinced them to become indentured servants to pay for their passage to the "New World". One must consider that LABOR was a major and accepted method of payment for all kinds of things: going to school, learning a trade, buying ANYTHING they didn't already have the money to purchase. As a result, there was a very interesting mixture of people settling the New World - from criminals - to voluntary servants - to involuntary servants. It's interesting to note that indentured servants had an enforceable contract. This was also a time when it was common to have a debtor prison system of some sort. Labor was a commodity that was bought and sold. So, voluntary servant would not be correct in many of the cases called "indentured servants". It would have been a crime to leave. The person holding the contract did own the servant until the contract was paid off. There were examples of all kinds that folks today wouldn't understand, but it was common practice at one time. Here's a couple more examples:  1) a man might trade a good horse or mule for a wife;  2) a man might make one of his children an indentured servant to buy a good horse or mule. If people didn't come from a rich family, labor was the only other thing they had to pay with. By the way, most of the transactions were NOT the type that one could change their mind. So, people of all colors in just about all families have slaves of one type or another in their family heritage. A large percentage of people also have either religious criminals or people who served time for debts in their family heritage. Their labor was PROPERTY that was owned, bought, sold, and traded - SO they were property and NOT free to leave. I did not mention this to try and minimize in any way the suffering in Black Slavery. The vast majority of Black Slaves were completely innocent of anything, were captured like animals, and sold into slavery. There was NOTHING voluntary or right about this at all.

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