Obama

[HisDaughter]

I was talking to a friend last night and I thought he had a great idea.  Every lawyer/politician should be required to work for one year (minimum) in a blue collar job before ever being considered for political leadership.  And they don't get to live with mom or dad.  They need to pay rent, utilities, take a bus, etc. so that they can experience first hand what it cost and what it's like to live on the kind of budget we need to.  Want extras?  Movies, camping trip, new shoes?  Well then lets see how you handle your budgeting issues.

Oh and another idea we had was that they be required to do some kind of community service like help out at one of our homeless missions, visit and participate in activities at a nursing home, daycare center, etc.

[Soldier4Christ]

That would be a good idea but many of these people would see it as more of a reason to institute socialism.

[Soldier4Christ]

Another Weatherman terrorist
key player in Obama campaign
Communists, socialists, anarchists
also part of support organization

One of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization is a signatory to an independent organization acting to ensure the election of Sen. Barack Obama, WND has learned.

The group in question, Progressives for Obama, also includes among its ranks many former members of the 1960s radical organization Students for a Democratic Society, from which the Weathermen splintered, as well as current and former members of other radical organizations, such as the Communist Party USA and the Black Radical Congress.

In its creed, first published in March in the Nation magazine, the Progressives for Obama founders state their organization descended from the "proud tradition of independent social movements that have made America a more just and democratic country."

Progressives for Obama stated it can help the Illinois senator's ascent to highest office by contributing funds, using the Internet to reach "millions of swing voters;" defending Obama against negative attacks and making its agenda known at the Democratic National Convention.

"Progressives can make a difference in close primary races like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon and Puerto Rico, and in the November general election," the founders state.

The founders stress it is crucial to form a grassroots leftist movement to ensure Obama does not stray too far to the center, claiming other grassroots liberal movements have successfully pressured U.S. presidents into creating new policy:

    It was the industrial strikes and radical organizers in the 1930s who pushed Roosevelt to support the New Deal. It was the civil rights and student movements that brought about voting rights legislation under Lyndon Johnson and propelled Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy's antiwar campaigns. It was the original Earth Day that led Richard Nixon to sign environmental laws.

    And it will be the Obama movement that will make it necessary and possible to end the war in Iraq, renew our economy with a populist emphasis, and confront the challenge of global warming. We should not only keep the pressure on [Obama] but also connect the issues that Obama has made central to his campaign into an overarching progressive vision."

Among the signatories and endorsers to Progressives for Obama is Mark Rudd, one of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization. Rudd worked closely for years with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers, whose association with Obama has generated controversy for the presidential candidate.

Rudd originally was a top member of the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, leading the famed 1968 Columbia University strikes in which hundreds of students seized several university buildings. He also served as spokesman for the strikes, attracting international media attention.

In 1968, Rudd traveled with the SDS to Cuba, defying U.S. travel bans, where he says he was heavily influenced by the legacy of Che Guevara and by Cuban-style revolution. When he returned to the U.S., Rudd advocated for Columbia's chapter of the SDS to carry out militant, aggressive action, but he was turned down.

A bio published on his own website explains Rudd worked to form the Weathermen as a radical alternative to the SDS and for white Americans to eject their "white skin privilege" and begin "armed struggle" against the U.S. government.

The Weathermen took responsibility for bombing U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.

Rudd went underground in 1970, when a bomb exploded in a townhouse in Greenwich Village in New York City, killing three of his comrades. He lived for seven and a half years in hiding as a fugitive, finally surrendering in 1977, facing only low-level state charges after federal charges against Weathermen leaders had been dropped. He resurfaced as a teacher in New Mexico.

As late as 2005, Rudd wrote an editorial in the Los Angeles Times lamenting the state of the antiwar movement in the U.S.

"What's hard to understand – given the revelations about the rush to war, the use of torture and the loss of more than 2,000 soldiers – is why the antiwar movement isn't further along than it is. Given that President Bush is now talking about Iraq as only one skirmish in an unlimited struggle against a global Islamic enemy, a struggle comparable to the titanic, 40-year Cold War against communism, shouldn't a massive critique of the global war on terrorism already be underway?" he wrote.

Rudd condemned the Weathermen's decision to embark on an "armed-struggle," calling it "stupid" since the violent acts led to the group's demise.

Rudd didn't condemn the terrorism itself, only its contribution to the downfall of the Weathermen.

Rudd declined to speak on the record to WND, explaining an interview may spark more Weathermen controversy for Obama.

Rudd is just one of scores of radicals involved with Progressives for Obama.

The group was founded by four individuals with ties to extremist groups:

    * Tom Hayden, a former state senator who was a founder and principal organizer of the SDS. Discover the Networks notes Hayden, previously married to actress Jane Fonda, traveled many times to North Vietnam, Czechoslovakia and Paris to strategize with communist North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America's anti-communist efforts.

    * Bill Fletcher, a former Maoist and current leader of Democratic Socialists of America or DSA. The New Zeal blog notes Fletcher was also a founder of the Black Radical Congress, closely linked to the Communist Party USA, which advocated for "progressive social justice, racial equality and economic justice goals within the U.S.

    * Barbara Ehenreich, an honorary chairman of DSA who was formerly active in antiwar movements in which some notorious radicals took part.

    * Actor Danny Glover, a member of the Black Students Union, who has visited Venezuela, making guest appearances on President Hugo Chavez's television and radio talk show. He reportedly has accepted loans of about $20 million from the Venezuelan government to make a movie about a Haitian revolutionary leader.

The Progressives for Obama webmaster is Carl Davidson, a former vice president of the Students for a Democratic Society, who has traveled to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro.

The signatories and endorsers of the Obama activist group, listed on the Progressives website, include scores of well known communist, socialist and anarchist activists and former SDS members.

The Obama campaign was not prepared to comment on the links to Rudd and other extremists in the allied organization.

[Soldier4Christ]

[nChrist]

I can see that the cartoonists are going to have a field day. Consider this one snagged.   

[Soldier4Christ]

Prosecutors for Obama hunting for 'lying ads'
'Truth Squad' using sheriffs, DAs to police bias against candidate

A team of Obama-supporting prosecutors and sheriffs in Missouri is preparing to pursue legal challenges to any presidential campaign ads deemed to be false or misleading.

KMOV-TV in St. Louis reports District Attorney Robert McCulloch, a past president of the National District Attorneys Association, said that whether the ads could be attributed to an opponent's campaign itself, or another organization, "If they're not going to tell the truth, somebody's got to step up and say, 'That's not the truth. This is the truth.'"

The effort appeared to be part of a move by the Obama campaign to block advertisements to which it objects. The campaign also sent "threatening" letters to several news agencies in Pennsylvania and Ohio demanding they stop airing ads exposing Obama's gun stance, according to the National Rifle Association.          

The NRA's Political Victory Fund condemned the attempt at censorship.

"Barack Obama and his campaign are terrified of the truth," said Chris W. Cox, chairman of organization. "Sen. Obama's statements and support for restricting access to firearms, raising taxes on guns and ammunition and voting against the use of firearms for self-defense in the home are a matter of public record. NRA-PVF will make sure that everyone knows of Obama's abysmal record on guns and hunting."

The Obama campaign declined to respond to a WND request for comment.

The NRA said Obama sent "cease and desist letters" to news outlets in the two states, "denouncing the ads and demanding their removal from the airwaves."

"Barack Obama would be the most anti-gun president in our nation's history. That's the truth," said Cox. "NRA-PVF has the facts on our side. No amount of running from or lying about his record and then intimidating news outlets in the hope of deceiving American gun owners and hunters is going to work. Those strong arm tactics may work in Chicago, but not in Pennsylvania and Ohio, and not as long as NRA-PVF has anything to say about it."

The warnings were from Obama lawyer Robert Bauer, who told station managers that in order to stay in the Federal Communication Commission's good graces, they should not air the ads.

Josh Marquis, an Oregon prosecutor who serves as a spokesman for the NDAA, said the comments from Missouri don't sound like the McCulloch he knows.

"I'm really surprised. I know Bob," Marquis told WND.

The KMOV report said the Obama campaign asked members of Missouri's law enforcement to target anyone who "lies" or issues misleading television ads. Formation of the Obama "Truth Squad" was the result, the report said.

McCulloch declined to return a call from WND seeking comment.

The KMOV report said the campaign was being conducted by McCulloch and another prosecutor, Jennifer Joyce, along with a number of sheriffs throughout the state.

"They will be reminding voters that Barack Obama is a Christian who wants to cut taxes for anyone who makes less than $250,000 a year. They also say they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that violate Missouri's ethics laws," the report said.

"We want to keep this campaign focused on issues," Joyce told the station. "We don't want people to get distracted. Missourians don't want to be distracted by the divisive character attacks."

The campaign was assembled to "set the record straight," they said.

Officials with the Missouri Sheriff's Association declined to talk about any sheriffs who might be involved in the campaign.

At the blog Gateway Pundit, the reaction was immediate.

"St. Louis and Missouri Democrat sheriffs and top prosecutors are planning to go after anyone who makes false statements against Obama during his campaign. This is so one sided I can't even being to describe how wrong this agenda is," writes blogger Jim Hoft.

Hoft said Joyce and McCulloch "are threatening to bring libel charges against those who speak out falsely against Barack Obama."

Missouri blogger Doctor Bulldog commented: "Don't think they will stop with just the local radio and television stations. Oh, no. We bloggers are NEXT on the chopping block! It doesn't matter if it is the truth. It only matters if Obama deems it a lie (i.e. – something that can cause damage to his bid to be president). Basically, NO ONE is free to criticize Obama here in Missouri"!!!"

In the St. Louis Examiner, a commentary said, "Look, politicians are all about lies. It may be annoying (I find it entertaining), but that's for their opponents and good-government groups to counter – not law enforcement. … Even if the officeholders joining the 'truth squad' are nominally stepping out of their official roles in order to put on their (political) party hats and play politics, it's inappropriate. They wield too much power to use it to wag their fingers at people who say un-nice things about political hopefuls. Prosecutors and sheriffs are, after all, normally thought of as people with the clout to put their targets behind bars."

Marquis told WND politicians keep their right to have a political opinion and express it, but the DA's organization strives hard not to be partisan.

[HisDaughter]

Who does this guy think he is!  I've never seen such strongarm tactics in a race of any kind before.  It's amazing.  He thinks he's above the law and anything and everyone else and he will bully his way through or try, anyway that he can.  The problem is nobody is "lying" about him.  They don't have to.  There's enough truth out there to sink him if folks would just open their eyes and ears. 
I could say more but I don't want to start a rant this late at night.  I have to get up for work tomorrow morning.
The only thing I can give the guy is he's got nerve.  And he certainly gets on mine! 
I thought Hillary was going to shoot him or something.  What happened to that idea? 

[nChrist]

UM? - It sounds like Obama is practicing DICTATORSHIP tactics. After all, that would go right along with all the SOCIALIST agendas. It's an absolute NO - NO for law enforcement agencies to get involved in things like this. It's almost like approaching THOUGHT POLICE and things like that just don't happen in a FREE country. WE HAVE CIVIL (NOT CRIMINAL) COURTS THAT RESOLVE ISSUES LIKE THIS!

This is OUTRAGEOUS AND STUPID! Does anyone really want law enforcement to get involved in what is perceived to be lies? IF SO, LET'S START WITH THE POLITICIANS! - NOT THE PEOPLE! I do think that law enforcement would do a much better job of determining TRUTH than politicians, but that's not what we pay law enforcement to do. If we did, many politicians would be sitting in jail. By the way, actions like this by law enforcement would be ILLEGAL and a VIOLATION OF CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! I would hope that most DAs, Prosecutors, and Law Enforcement agencies have enough common sense to STAY OUT of things like this. Acting under COLOR OF LAW on things like this would also result in CRIMINAL and CIVIL remedies against Law Enforcement. This would especially be true for any management or supervision directing these actions. In short, something like this would be SILLY and EXPENSIVE. DID I MENTION CHILDISH!

[Soldier4Christ]

This is just showing his muslim upbringing and explains why he gets along so well with them. After all that is exactly what they do ... lie and lie some more yet get very upset and even violent if someone tells the truth about them calling it lies.

[Shammu]

This is just showing his muslim upbringing and explains why he gets along so well with them. After all that is exactly what they do ... lie and lie some more yet get very upset and even violent if someone tells the truth about them calling it lies.

BINGO, and we have a winner. Brother those are my thoughts as well.

[nChrist]

This is just showing his muslim upbringing and explains why he gets along so well with them. After all that is exactly what they do ... lie and lie some more yet get very upset and even violent if someone tells the truth about them calling it lies.

By the way, I did watch the debate last night between McCain and Obama. I realize that I'm biased, but I thought that Obama was disrespectful to McCain. Obama acted like a disrespectful little boy having a no-win argument with his dad. In short, I thought that McCain won the debate in a BIG way. I don't give points for being slick and pretty, and I subtract points for being a condescending elitist. Being a condescending elitist is especially bad when one doesn't have a position to COME DOWN from. In case you're wondering, I don't think that Obama has a position to COME DOWN from. The kindest thing I could say is that Obama is a green kid who should be LOOKING UP to a man like John McCain. I thought that Osama Obama's constant reference to Senator McCain as "John" was intentionally rude and disrespectful.

[Soldier4Christ]

Especially so with the tone that he said John in. The eye rolls, smirks and even show of hatred in his body language when McCain spoke said a lot to me. They had some sort of meters set up at the debate that was supposed to show the results of how the body language affected the people. Somehow Osama Obama had a much higher rating than McCain did when Obama was speaking of tax cuts. In fact it was the highest of both of them with both republicans and democrats. I don't understand it.

[nChrist]

Brother Roger,

I don't know how others rated the debate, but a Fox Poll had 82% saying that John McCain won the debate. I'm sure there are other polls, but the individual opinions of voters is all that's going to matter in the end. I wouldn't vote for Osama Obama if John McCain slept through the debate and said absolutely nothing. I don't want any part of the Socialist big government garbage. With Obama, we are actually watching the BIGGEST ULTRA-LIBERAL SOCIALIST that could be found running for President. It wouldn't take him and his friends long to destroy what's left of this country. BUT, I'm too shy on this matter.

[Soldier4Christ]

The current Congress is doing a good job of destroying the U.S. as it is. I agree though that Obama would be the clincher that would finish this nation completely. It will be just like the meeting that he just headed in Washington ... complete chaos only it won't be just in Washington it will be nation wide.

[Soldier4Christ]

THE ENEMY WITHIN

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.” — Cicero (106-43 BC)