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« on: December 29, 2007, 01:35:08 PM »

True believers are people who believe God.  They, therefore, value what God says and stands for; keep His commandments (John 14:15; 1 John 2:3-6); and live a Godly life.  Shouldn’t they, therefore, like Jesus, love those who hate them (Luke 6:27) and sacrifice their own interest in order to compensate for the offenses their offenders have caused them?  God stayed faithful to His people although they abandoned Him and were unfaithful to Him.  Shouldn’t true believers, therefore, always stay faithful to their spouse; even if their spouse has been unfaithful to them (Hosea 3:1)?  In addition, because God is love, true believers will have an absolute trust, that through love all problems can be solved.  Shouldn’t they, therefore, not resort to law suites (1 Corinthians 6:7), revenge (Romans 12:19) and war (Matthew 5:21-22; Matthew 26:52; Ephesians 2:14-16 & Zech 4:6)?
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God stayed faithful to His promise although we were unfaithful to Him, betrayed Him and killed Him. He expressed it by accepting death in order to compensate for our sins. Furthermore, He commands us to love one another in a similar manner (Jn 13:34).
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 12:54:25 PM »

True believers are people who believe God.  They, therefore, value what God says and stands for; keep His commandments (John 14:15; 1 John 2:3-6); and live a Godly life.  Shouldn’t they, therefore, like Jesus, love those who hate them (Luke 6:27) and sacrifice their own interest in order to compensate for the offenses their offenders have caused them?  God stayed faithful to His people although they abandoned Him and were unfaithful to Him.  Shouldn’t true believers, therefore, always stay faithful to their spouse; even if their spouse has been unfaithful to them (Hosea 3:1)?  In addition, because God is love, true believers will have an absolute trust, that through love all problems can be solved.  Shouldn’t they, therefore, not resort to law suites (1 Corinthians 6:7), revenge (Romans 12:19) and war (Matthew 5:21-22; Matthew 26:52; Ephesians 2:14-16 & Zech 4:6)?

to surrendersacrifice:

I wish that you were a member of my church, so that we could set down on a one to one basis, and discuss the
things that have obviously harmed you.
We as christians are children of the most high God,The el-shadaiah(the God who is more than able to meet the need)
Yes we are to love unconditionally, and yes we are to forgive, and forget, those who have harmed us. We
are told by our savior that he will disipline those who have done us wrong.
But I ask you to understand as well that we did not become throw rugs for everyone we meet to trample under
their feet. WE SERVE THE LIVING AND RISEN SAVIOR.We are children of the king, and have to right to come
BOLDLY before him, not as servants with our hat in our hand, but as children knowing that he will answer, and
meet our needs.
The book of Joel tells us that we will take back, by force, the things that the enemy of our soul has taken!
We can do ALL things thru Christ who strengthens us, including, and especially living a joyous and overcoming
life. We are the head and not the tail the book of Isaiah tells us. We are leaders, not follower, we are greater than
anything this world has to stand against us, and we are CHILDREN OF THE KING!
The only time we should sacrifice our desires, and needs for others, is when that sacrifice will further the kingdom of
our Lord. Being meek does not mean being  a throw rug, it means not speaking untill you have something worth
saying. We have something worth saying every time we promote the truth of the gospel.

respectfully your friend in Jesus

ravenloche
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if not you, who? if not now, when?
if not here, where? if it is to be it is up to me!
John 3:17 for he came not into the world to condemn the world, but that the world thru him might be saved! Rom 8:1 there is therefore no con-
demnation to those who are in
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 01:08:57 PM »

to surrendersacrifice:

I wish that you were a member of my church, so that we could set down on a one to one basis, and discuss the
things that have obviously harmed you.
We as christians are children of the most high God,The el-shadaiah(the God who is more than able to meet the need)
Yes we are to love unconditionally, and yes we are to forgive, and forget, those who have harmed us. We
are told by our savior that he will disipline those who have done us wrong.
But I ask you to understand as well that we did not become throw rugs for everyone we meet to trample under
their feet. WE SERVE THE LIVING AND RISEN SAVIOR.We are children of the king, and have to right to come
BOLDLY before him, not as servants with our hat in our hand, but as children knowing that he will answer, and
meet our needs.
The book of Joel tells us that we will take back, by force, the things that the enemy of our soul has taken!
We can do ALL things thru Christ who strengthens us, including, and especially living a joyous and overcoming
life. We are the head and not the tail the book of Isaiah tells us. We are leaders, not follower, we are greater than
anything this world has to stand against us, and we are CHILDREN OF THE KING!
The only time we should sacrifice our desires, and needs for others, is when that sacrifice will further the kingdom of
our Lord. Being meek does not mean being  a throw rug, it means not speaking untill you have something worth
saying. We have something worth saying every time we promote the truth of the gospel.

respectfully your friend in Jesus

ravenloche

Amen!

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 03:07:13 PM »

"at war"

Paul did not write that we were to put on the bed clothes of God, it is the Armor of God.  To be used to protect us from the attacks of Satan.  And we are not defenseless in that.  We can have the Sword of the Spirit, not the spaghetti strand of limpness.  We are at war, at war with Satan every minute of our day. 

And ravenloche.... AMEN!
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 06:29:42 PM »

True believers..Those who live the Word not just talk about it..
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