I then told Bev Shea that the first I had heard him sing was in 1954 when I was part of a massive crowd of 120,000 at London's Wembley Stadium. I asked him for his recollections of those times in the UK.
"The Harringay arena seated some 12,000 and it was filled every night," he began. "And then someone thought of the idea of carrying the meetings by landlines to other parts of the United Kingdom. During the War, they had extra phone lines that they used and somebody saw those idle lines and got them all hooked up. And so one night we had some fifty areas hooked up to Harringay. They were listening in churches, auditoriums in Wales and Scotland, and Ireland. It was marvelous!"
Winston Churchill
I wondered if Bev Shea had ever met Winston Churchill during his visits to Britain.
"I never met him, but I heard Mr. Churchill in Parliament and I also heard his speech in Ibrox Stadium, Glasgow, when he was running again for Parliament. He talked for 70 minutes. I was sitting beside Mr. Graham and he was very impressed with Mr. Churchill's oratory."
The Queen Mother
He then spoke about an experience with the Queen Mother. "I never got to meet her before she passed away four years ago," Bev said. "But back in the fifties, when she was Queen she and King George VI decided to visit Washington, DC, Mrs. Roosevelt entertained them at the White House. There was some entertainment that night. They had Chief White Feather, an Indian who was an opera singer. He sang two arias and then, when the audience wanted more, he said, 'May I sing something from my heart' and then he sang, 'I'd Rather Have Jesus,' the song I had the privilege of writing the music to, but not the words; they were written by Rhea Miller. After he had sung that song, the Queen looked at him and said, 'That song bespeaks the sentiment of my heart and that of my husband.' Isn't that beautiful?"
Richard Nixon
Bev Shea then spoke of his encounters with Richard Nixon who attended the 1957 New York Crusade at Yankee Stadium.
"He came on a very hot night and we had about 90,000 people there," he said.
I then asked if he had ever sung for Nixon at the White House after he became president. "Yes, I did," he replied. "It was in the East Room and Mr. Graham spoke at the very first service he held there. Nixon had decided to hold Sunday morning services and not everybody agreed with the idea, but he liked to do that. Congressmen and others came, and I sang, 'How Great Thou Art.' Then we had had breakfast upstairs. Being a Canadian I thought that was really something.
"Afterwards, Nixon sat down at an old banged up Steinway piano and went up and down the keys and he began singing, 'He will hold me fast, for my savior loves me, so he will hold me fast.' I wondered where he ever heard that. I kept inquiring and I understand when he was thirteen or fourteen years of age he went to the Paul Rader meetings in Los Angeles and that was the signature song every night for the choir."
Favorite hymns
I then asked Mr. Shea to name some of his favorite hymns.
"I'm never tired of 'How Great Thou Art,'" he said. "It seems like I've sung it so many times but the words are almost like scripture, you know. And there are others that I like when I go to my the organ I have at home here or the piano I often sing, 'I Saw One Hanging In A Tree...' and also 'And can it be...' And then 'Great Is Thy Faithfulness' is another that I love. I knew the man who wrote the music for that. His name was William Runyan and he worked at Moody Bible Institute.
Guinness Book of World Records
Bev Shea then revealed that he has been honored by the Guinness Book of World Records for having sung before more people 220 million -- more than anyone else in history.
"They sent me a certificate that my wife, Karlene, framed and put on the wall here at my home," he said. "The truth is that they didn't come to hear me; they came to hear Billy Graham."
I interjected by saying, "Yes, but they came to hear you as well!"
Health
Bev suffered a heart attack in 2004. He spoke about his hospitalization in the same hospital where Billy Graham was also being treated.
"I wrote him a little note to that said, 'I don't like to leave you here, but they say I can go home now.'"
When asked how he would describe his friend, Billy Graham, he replied, "If he'd never met the Lord, he still would have been a gracious gentleman. But he met the Lord, the Lord transformed his life at a young age, gave him that great gift of just interpreting the Word and bringing in the net."
He said he meant by "bringing in the net" the invitation to receive Christ at the end of each service.
"When I sit there on the platform and pray, I have to admit that once in a while I peek and see them coming forward by the hundreds," he said. "What a thrill that is. And his son, Franklin, is being blessed and is doing very well. He's quite a preacher. I went down to Mobile, Alabama, with my wife and he had me do some numbers. We also did New Orleans with Billy and Cliff Barrows."
Karlene Shea
I then asked him how he met his present wife, Karlene.
"It has been 20 years of bliss," he said. "I was a widower for 10 years in a suburb of Chicago and that's a long time. When we were over in Korea in 1984, Billy brought me into his room and said, 'I've been talking to Ruth my wife in Montreat this morning on the phone and we think that 10 years is enough, and so he mentioned Karlene's name."
He was right, and Bev and Karlene were married in Montreat, North Carolina.
"Mr. Graham didn't do the service," said Bev. "We had pastor of our church here, and he put on his nice robe and we were married in Billy's home."
He said that he and Billy Graham keep in touch regularly. "He called me on the phone just the other day," he said. "He lives just a mile away from me."
What an example, that he, Mr. Graham and Cliff Barrows are for those who think we should retire at 65!
Note: I'd like to thank Robin Frost for transcribing this interview.
'I'd Rather Have Jesus'��'-At 97 years of age, George Beverly Shea is still singing for the Lord