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« on: June 30, 2007, 02:55:41 PM »

What are your guidelines for Christians when it comes to music?  Do you think all Christians should only listen to specifically Christian music? Is music divided into secular and Christian or is it all just music, good and bad? Is there good secular music and bad Christian music?  Should people only sing about God or are other topics okay too?  Do you think only hymns are acceptable? Would you shun people who are inclined to think differently about music than yourself or do you think it's no big deal? What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 12:45:50 AM »

Hymns came from melodies of composers..as well as melodies of familiar tunes...
It is so easy to know the guidelines of music...as all we do is to glorify God...when a Christian has to debate a music issue...then it is not glorifying God...but man...much of the Christian music today has no melody and much of it is sparse on lyrics...it is wise to use music that is scripturally sound...

I went to a concert of a major Christian artist and in the whole concert...Jesus was mention 1 time...It cannot be Christian music if it does not lift up the name of the Lord...but many artist are afraid their music will not reach a larger crowd...so many compromise...Hymns that are forgotten should be brought back...not because the music is what is called outdated...but because the words are sound...this is the music that edifies the body and brings glory to the Lord when it is scripturally sound..
Music is not part of worship..but praise...as the music did not enter into the temple...so...if one hears Christian music..let it be scripturally sound and with respect in it's presentation...and very important...those who lead music were skilled in the word and many put talent before the word thinking it is more important...and nothing is more important than the word of God...


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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 12:06:13 AM »

I have always been a music lover.  Before I became a Christian my musical taste was pop and hard rock which included some of what were clearly satanic-influenced bands.  After I was saved one of the first things the Lord changed about me was my musical tastes.  In fact, I took a hammer and smashed to pieces all of my rock albums that I had collected over the years. The music of the world no longer appealed to me.  I began to listen to Christian music and that became my strict preference.  It is the only kind of music I will spend money for.  It doesn't matter to me if it is contemporary Christian music, southern gospel, black gospel, praise & worship, inspirational, instrumental or traditional hymns.  As long it lifts up the name of the Lord and gives Him praise and glory I will like it. 

When I listen to Christian music I want to be able to know it is a Christian song when I hear it.  Lyrical content, therefore, is very important to me and is a factor in how I evaluate a Christian song.  One of the best things about the old traditional hymns of the Church is that they are scripturally based and doctrinally sound.  They can actually teach you doctrine when you listen to them.  That cannot always be said about the modern music of the Church.  To be frank, some of the contemporary Christian music out there is hard to distinguish from the world.

I don't judge anyone for listening to secular music and I don't shun them because of their musical tastes.  I know that some Christians still like to listen to it.  However, I would object if my unsaved neighbor was playing very loud music all night long until 4:00 AM...lol.

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 12:37:59 AM »

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However, I would object if my unsaved neighbor was playing very loud music all night long until 4:00 AM...lol.

I think that i would object if loud music of any kind were played all night long by my neighbors. 

 Wink Cheesy Cheesy

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 02:14:04 AM »

You wouldn't have to worry about me, Pastor Roger.  I wear headphones.  Cool  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 02:45:45 AM »

I could't help but think how music has become more important in the worship service.  One Easter, I told the choir we would not sing Easter Sunday as there was scheduled so many songs and it was as if Easter Sunday was a concert.  I told the choir the word is more important and it is not good to have so much music and 15 minutes of the Word.  Secular music is what many listen to because it stirs the flesh emotions..and we live by faith, not emotions, but if one wants to listen to secular music (which is hard to escape as it is played in stores, offices, etc..)then..let them without murmuring..It is not that we can listen to christian music 27/ 7 but how we live our life 27/7..
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2007, 08:03:14 AM »

I am a avid Country music fan. I am not particularly fond of our australians, some are alright but I love the american country. I found that a lot of them are Christian and stand for similar morals and such. They also sound better and have a better beat! My favourites are Rascall Flatts, Brooks and Dunn, Montgomery Gentry, Josh Turner(He has a really great voice), Rodney Atkins, just to name a few!

As for neighbours having their music up loud, just last night our new neighbour had his music up really loud and all we could hear was the 'thump,' 'thump' coming through the walls! I believe my mum called the cops about 3 am. I thought that this morning I should play my Christian music or Country (because they are not hugely popular in this area) up really loud and about 8 in the morning!! Tee Hee!!
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2007, 05:07:25 PM »

However, I would object if my unsaved neighbor was playing very loud music all night long until 4:00 AM...lol.

 
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My nearest neighbor lives about 1/2 mile away. Grin Grin
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 11:07:45 AM »

My absolutely most favorite kind of music is southern gospel quartets. There are also several soloists I like. I also like waltzes, big band music, and most anything from the 1950's and EARLIER. Very little good music was written after the 50's except for gospel music--in my opinion.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 11:08:28 AM »

Well I have to say that God created music and I love pretty much everything....except for maybe the Cyrus family....Both Billy Ray and Miley Smiley

My favorite band is the Beatles.  And I love to listen to our contemporary Christian station in town, but unfortunately it appears their selection of music is somewhat limited so you tend to hear the same song(s) quite often in short amounts of time. 

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 10:36:22 PM »

Hello Everyone,

I'm a noob here.  Have already enjoyed the good natured banter here.

I go to a conservative church and like the teaching.  I moved out to SoCal from the Midwest where I had attended a church that had peppy music.  I don't have a problem with peppy worship music, but I can see where some think it might be used to hype the people.  The true intent should be to honor and glorify God.  It should be heartfelt for sure, we've been blood bought.  We had an associate pastor step in at the church I'm going to.  He's older and an elder in the church.  I like him.  I respect him, but he succeeded in getting my dander up.  During his sermon from the pulpit, he made an unsubstantiated claim that Rock music is bad... of the devil.  I've been told that includes Christian Rock.

I treat this subject delicately, because I don't want it to spiral into a vitrolic spittin contest.  I talked with a friend who goes to the church, and they affirmed the associate pastor, but based it on personal opinion that secular rock was bad, therefore Christian rock having been derived from the secular was equally as bad.  My dander was starting to get the best of me.

I approached another friend outside of that church, but a Christian as well.  She said something pretty cool.  Delve into the Word on a Biblical Quest, so I'm kind of like on a journey now.  It's been fun.  I use web tools for referencing the Bible, and I found a site that referenced Hebrew musical instruments.  I want to continue this journey, please pray for me.

I briefly looked at what other people on the web had to say about Christian rock and was sorely disappointed.  We're some example to the world on that account.  Both sides are strongly opinionated and have not conducted themselves wisely in my eyes.

I know that this is a tough issue the Christian church faces today.  I've heard that churches have split over this.  It seems to be drawn on generational lines.  At my old church, a member of the band got an earful from one of the older guys... that because the older people had most of the money, the younger people should remember that and not forget the hymns.

What can we do about this, before it rips about the church.  So much for the Devil ripping away, let the Christians do it for him.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 11:01:41 PM »

Hello MM,

Welcome to Christians Unite forums.

I've heard the same thing said by some about Country and Western music. There is some Country Christian music that I like and does glorify God. There is also a lot of it that does just the opposite. I'm not much for most music that today is called rock but I do enjoy on occasion listening to some of the early Christian rock of 50's and 60's. My favorite music though is Christian Appalachian Hillfolk music. The people of the hills always sang from the heart and it was always sweet with memories of God in every word.

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 09:47:02 AM »

MM

There are some things to note.  First is that no where in the Bible does it say Rock music is bad.  As a matter of fact what the Bible has to say about music is that God created music.  And I feel that qualifies all music, yes even things like death metal.  I speak only of the music and not of the lyrics.  The Bible does not say anything about God creating lyrics, that was left to us. 

Another thing is that based on the Biblical principles since there is nothing specifically stating that certain types of music are good or bad then it is man imposing his judgment on what is good or what is bad...and that is what Got Adam in trouble to begin with.  The Bible gives us very clear moral and ethical boundaries of what is good or bad.  And personally I feel that if something specific is not mentioned then as long as it praises God then it is not my place to cast any sort of judgment upon it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 10:49:18 AM »

Good Morning,
There is no verse in the Bible that says Rock music is dead wrong.  I guess where I got my dander up was that the man was speaking from the pulpit making a declarative statement.  I agree we make our own opinions on this one, be they along generational lines or personal preference.  I am open to wise instruction.

I can see with my own eyes what bands have sacrificed to make it to the top in the secular world and the price being at the top has been.  I know that lyrics are messages that can get stuck in this head of mine.  To borrow an engineering phrase GIGO garbage in garbage out.  It's a fine line where you draw that line.  I will say that I have enjoyed many a secular tune.

I know that Satan is the Great Deceiver.  I have learned on my quest that the first musical instrument was created prior to the dawn of man.  According to the Bible, when God created Satan, he was created with a tabret and pipes in hand.  I would surmise that Satan has great prowess in music, as I'm sure God wouldn't have wanted to listen to unskilled drum play and squeaky pipes a blowing.  Smiley  I also know that according to the Bible, there is nothing new under the sun, music is not new.  We ourselves are keenly affected by music and God made us.  Satan knows that music can be used for ill-work.

With regards to Christian Rock...  I firmly believe that if it was created to honor and glorify God, then amen, go for it.  Doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.  I personally look for sincerity in music.  Sometimes I wonder if the intent is to honor God or make Christian music because it sells, but that too is again subject to personal opinion.  God knows the heart.

BTW, I really appreciate your tagline Brother Jerry.

Thanks for engaging me in this conversation.  My musical tastes run the gamut.  I love many of the olde hymns.  Many of the new worship songs are well loved as well.  Keith Green's music blows me away with his sincerity.  Have a good day.

Sincerely,
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 11:57:53 AM »

According to the Bible, when God created Satan, he was created with a tabret and pipes in hand.


I do realize that some refer to Ezekiel 28:11-19 using it to refer to satan and therefore call him the angel of music. This scripture is actually speaking of King Tyre as we can clearly see in Eze 28:2 where Ezekial is being told to say these words to "the prince of Tyrus". The reference is in how he was born into royalty. The reference of Eden, the tabret and pipe is the depiction of this and has nothing to with satan. The Bible tells us that satan was originally the "bringer of light" (2 Pet 1:19), the "Morning Star" (Isa 14:12 ) hence the reason for the Latin name of Lucifer. This was taken from satan and he became the angel of darkness.

We do know that angels sing and play music however we don't know what kind it is. We simply know that it is beautiful to God and to all others that hear it.

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