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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2003, 10:44:04 PM »


Well, the first thing here, in any conflict, is to desperately pray about it.  Believe me, I'm in one myself and yes, it takes even a "seasoned" Christian time or muscle to once again come around to praying about some things--we are so desparate to figure things out on our own.  

Anyway, maybe Whitehorse's above in Post #18, might come closest for me:

It seems the key is in the fact that he feels you're getting in the way of their relationship. If your roommate has confided in you about their relationship, that may give you some clues. It's quite possible that you are having a good influence on your roommate. Maybe she's sticking to her values and her boyfriend is nonplussed with that.

One idea is to talk to him without your roommate there to add to the balance one way or another. Maybe you could let her know you're planning on talking to him, and then go knock on his door before they have any chance to discuss it; ask him why he is angry.

If you speak gently and take a spirit of compassion and concern (as hard as I know that will be) he is more likely to confide in you. Try to see how he is looking at it even though he is completely in the wrong-because then he is more likely to be honest. It's a good idea to do this after you've forgiven him so you won't feel tempted to use it against him next time he offends you.

I hope that helps; I don't know the situation etiher, so I'm just guessing. What I'm wondering is, is your roommate a Christian? Because it seems she's dating someone who is not. Maybe your roommate is your one link to this guy. If so, the problem proabably exists there, whether for good or not. Especially if you don't know why he is angry with you.

But it seems she's jumping back and forth between the two of you, agreeing with him about his social obligations, and yet he says she's siding with you.


WH has hit on a number of points accurate to me here; just one, possibly, that he's jealous of you or, perhaps more to the point, AAAA, he's jealous of his girlfriend confiding in you about him(if that is the case).  Some guys may be laidback about that.  Others not so well.  Possibly, through no fault of your own, he may still see you even as a meddler.  If any of this is the case, hmmm, well, he needs to grow up and relax a little bit.  From your despription, he sounds uptight. or highstrung.  

WH seems to be giving some helpful advice there.

Primo, tho, prayer works many wonders.  I've prayed about a number of mine, and they've worked out very well.  Thank you Jesus.

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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2003, 11:46:06 PM »

I'm just as lost as y'all are about why he hates me so much - it has absolutely nothing to do with religion.  He makes fun of the way I talk (I'm from the north, this school is in the south), my intelligence, my appearance, my social skills, my relationships, my everything.  He has called me everything from a liar to a whore to a b*tch, has placed giant insects on my desk, in my face and in my hair, has messed with my cell phone while I was at class one day and changed it to spanish, has turned my posters upside down and re-hung them, and has generally made my life a living hell.  Even my roommate is confused - when she asks him why he's so cruel he can't give her a reason, and when she asks him to be nice he *cries* and accuses her of taking my side...he's told her multiple times that I'm hurting their relationship!!!

It's gotten so bad that I recently applied for a room change but unfortunately I found out today that all of the dorms are full...with waiting lists. Tongue So I'm stuck.  My roommate's not the problem - she's awesome, but her boyfriend is a JERK.  He's made me so miserable that I've even thought of transferring schools.  He's made me cry more times than I can count.

Sound like the model Christian to you?

A4C - nice sarcasm, but it wasn't called for.

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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2003, 11:49:27 PM »

Romans, it's great that you want to see him saved and I love that you're willing to be concerned for his eternal state.

But I'm thinking it isn't just the behavior that is making people question this guy's salvation-it's the doctrine. And it's true we don't know everything, but here is someone who says that he can do whatever he wants and then God will save him. This is not at all the spirit behind Revelation chapters 1-3, or those verses above. God saves us through faith, but there's a tremedous difference between faith and presumption.

The question is, can he be saved by this doctrine he's carrying? It's a valid thing to question. Because if he doesn't have the right doctrine, he may miss the boat unless someone points out to him that this kind of faith cannot save.

I share your concern for his salvation, and for AAAA's wellbeing in all of this, too. She's saying his behavior is causing her grief.  Embarrassed

I understand what you are saying and I think we are all of the agreement that his doctrine is incorrect.  Romans 6 address people who are 'saved' who continue sinning because they think it is alright.  Paul corrects them in this doctrine, but does not say they are not saved.  He says why would you want to live that way?  Don't you know who you are?  But he never says "You are not saved."  This guy falls into the category of believers in Chapter 6.  Also, we don't know if he actually believes what he said to AAAA.  It could be that when she confronted him with the truth of how he should act, he defensively rebutted with this statement, but in his heart he really knows she is right and he really doesn't believe he can just do anything.  We don't know the battles that are going on in his heart.  All I'm saying is that we don't have enough information, and we definately don't have the right ... to judge this man's salvation.  If he was here, we'd lovingly and gently correct him.  In lue of that, we have tried to give AAAA some advice in how to handle it and through her, he may see how he should have acted.  I just get concerned when people judge other's salvation based on a few peices of information.  We all agree that their is only one thing that saves you "faith in Christ."  If he confesses that, then it's end of discussion regarding his salvation.  Now... we can discuss his behavior, and his beliefs regarding Christianity.  But if he has truly accepted Christ, then who are we to say he is not saved?  The last time I check, God didn't give me that power.  

I will gently and lovingly instruct.  I will give advice as God lays it on my heart.  I will tell my story of what happened to me and how God has changed my life.  And I will leave the judging up to God.  Too many times people accuse Christians of being judgemental.  The unfortunate truth is we have earned many of the labels put on us.  I wish us to change that and to get back to the root of Love that Christ taught us.  I wrote a post over in "You name it" in regards to how Christians should act.  I just get concerned when we do not exhibit the love Christ calls us to show.  

This may be a point where we just disagree.  But I just don't see the  how we can judge this man's salvation based on one doctrine that Paul addresses to saved people that hold this.  Paul says it is wrong, but not that they are not saved.  More than this one isolated incident with this man, on a larger issue, we should refrain from judging anyone's salvation.  If we are going to get to the point of looking at doctrine belief as the litmus test for Christianity, then we will get to the point of arguing how much water it takes in a baptism in order for one to be saved.  Let's not part fellowship over these types of doctrines.  Let's gently correct one another, pray for one another, and have "faith" that God is sanctifing all His saints in His time.  I thank God for the patience he took with me.  Can we have that same patience for fellow saints?
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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2003, 10:32:33 AM »

What's your roommate doing about all of this? Does she stand back and watch it? The fact that she "loves" a man who treats her roommate the way this guy apparently treats you sounds like she has a few screws loose....especially if this guy is doing it to get your attention. I know i would lose tremendous respect for my husband if he acted like this around ANYBODY, mych less someone i cared about. Does she justify it?
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2003, 12:49:27 PM »

Romans 6 address people who are 'saved' who continue sinning because they think it is alright.  Paul corrects them in this doctrine, but does not say they are not saved.  He says why would you want to live that way?  Don't you know who you are?  But he never says "You are not saved."  This guy falls into the category of believers in Chapter 6.  ..............We don't know the battles that are going on in his heart.  All I'm saying is that we don't have enough information, and we definately don't have the right ... to judge this man's salvation.  ............... I just get concerned when people judge other's salvation based on a few peices of information.  We all agree that their is only one thing that saves you "faith in Christ."  If he confesses that, then it's end of discussion regarding his salvation.  .................  But if he has truly accepted Christ, then who are we to say he is not saved?  The last time I check, God didn't give me that power.
We canít judge either way as to whether someone IS or IS NOT saved, only God knows the heart.
But it is possible to see if the evidence of salvation is there. I have failed the test more than once. If someone really knew me they could feel that I was not saved, sometimes I wonder myself. But then God chastises me and through the hurt I have comfort.
This is the test God gives us.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

We will not keep His commandments perfectly, we have a physical body that has strong sinful habits built in.
We canít set up our own test and claim we are saved because we have done the necessary work, faith is a work. Salvation is by grace and not by works.

1 Thessalonians 1:3  Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

I do not agree with your statement:
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We all agree that their is only one thing that saves you "faith in Christ."  If he confesses that, then it's end of discussion regarding his salvation.
Not only is faith a work but believing and confessing is because of Gods work on us.

Romans 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Proverbs 16:1  The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.
John 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

We do not keep Gods commandments entirely by our effort. If we are saved then it is because God has changed our heart, we are born again. This heart change gives us the desire to keep Gods commandments.

Ezekiel 11:19  And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Ezekiel 11:20  That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Hebrews 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Hebrews 10:17  And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

We canít change our hearts, just as we canít contribute to our birth. Has this guy been changed? I donít know. But if we go by what AAAA says we can see that this ďchristianĒ  does not show any desire to keep Gods commandments.
What is the second of the commandments?

Matthew 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.
Matthew 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
1 John 3:23  And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 3:24  And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Such an important commandment to break.
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2003, 01:56:29 PM »

Left Coast,

We agree that we can't judge this man's salvation.  We agree that there will be fruits and evidence of salvation.  I disagree that we can judge his fruits based on this one un-Christian like behavior.  Would you say that most Christians have someone in their life that they cannot stand?  Someone that they have negative feelings for?  I know of MANY Christians who profess to having someone they can't stand.  And the ones that don't profess it, probably have those feelings and just don't admit it.  If we use this as the litmus test, then we could say that no one on the face of the planet is saved.  I'm just concerned that we find it so easy to judge someone else when we ourselves practice the same behavior.

In regards to keeping the Commandments ... this verse is often misunderstood.  The key is in the word "keep".  John is not saying that if we break one of the commandments, then we do not know God.  If you take this literally, I can see where you might draw this conclusion.  The only way I can explain this passage is to draw an analogy.  In the old days, sailors sailed the sea by the stars.  They picked a star and sailed to it.  The star guided their ship.  Often, they would stray off course and then they would re-line up with the star and keep going.  This is the context of "keeping" the commandments.  It's not that we fullfill and never break a commandment, but if we guide our lives by the commandments and if we stray, then we re-line back up to them.  This is what was meant by "keeping" the commandments.  The work "keep" was meant like the guiding star in our life.  I don't know if I explained this correctly, but this is the true context of this verse.

As far as faith being a work ... we'll just have to agree to disagree.  Your statements seem to imply you are a bit of a Calvinist.  I'm Ok with that if you are.  I happen to believe in free will.

As far as his incorrect belief that he can do whatever he wants.  I fully agree that this is an incorrect doctrine.  But this does not negate his salvation.  Again ... Paul addressed this in Chapter 6 of Romans and he never says that they are not saved.  He chastises them for holding this belief, but he never says they are not saved.  Unless we are willing to tear chapter 6 out of our Bibles, we should take this to heart.  What I say is one of 3 things.  Either 1) he has recieved some false teaching somewhere or 2) he really does not believe it and was just lashing out at AAAA in a defensive mode or 3) he does believe it and this is just one of the things God will convict him of during his sanctification process.

My main point to make is this ... who are we to say a man is not saved based on some negative behavior.  We all have people that we are not fond of.  Can any man really say that they love every person as themselves?  If you say yes, then let me give you an scenerio.  If you had cancer and the only way you could cure yourself was to sell your house in order to pay for it.  Would you do it?  Of course you would.  Now there are people all around us every day that in dire need of financial support.  If we love them as ourselves, wouldn't we sell everything that is not a necessity to us (at the very least).  For those that are pointing fingers that he is breaking the commandment of loving thy neighbor as thy self ... Be warned.  We are ALL guilty of this to an extent.  Who are we to say that he is worse than us?  I guess it's easier to point a finger in order to take the focus off ourselves.

My friends.  Let's show love and compassion and patience with our neighbors.  Let's not judge another's salvation.  If we see something we disagree with, then gently correct and leave the judging to God.  Here is a most dangerous thing to pray .... "Lord, will You please forgive me based on how I have forgiven everyone else around me."  Think about it.
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2003, 07:01:39 PM »

Romans, I see what you're saying about loving instruction and I support that wholeheartedly. I think part of what makes encouragement an effective tool in Christian growth is in discernment, in seeing the heart of the person. What worked for you may not work for this guy. At any rate, he cannot be saved if he thinks he can presume upon grace, because the Bible actually does say that if we continue willingly in sin, there is now no more sacrifice for sin.

A lot of good verses were posted, and I think Ollie pointed out this one:
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:26. 

Then there is the parable of the wedding garment. The man who did not have one was cast from the wedding.

22:1And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

22:2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

22:3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

22:4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

22:5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

22:6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

22:7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

22:8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

22:9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

22:10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

22:11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

22:12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

22:13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

22:14For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 22:1-11

The man in this parable was willing to come. But he did not have the righteousness.

And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Revelation 19:8

So it isn't so much a matter of being judgmental or impatient, it's a matter of truth. If he doesn't know the truth, how can he ever be sanctified? I realize in your situation you're referring to sanctification, and that's true of every Christian. We all go through sanctification. But how can this guy be sanctified if he thinks he can be a Christian without it? That error, if he reamins in it, will cost him his soul.

I realize your situation is different. But with him, what seems loving and what is loving are two different things, I'm afraid.  Undecided

But I agree with you that people should be encouraged into the kingdom, not barred from the kingdom by a misguided notion that the rest of us are without sin, because that isn't the case. You made some great points.
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2003, 08:51:38 PM »

Whitehorse,

Nice post.  A point I was also trying to point out is that everyone of us has willfully sinned. We all have sinned and knew full well that we were sinning.  We cannot use that as a litmus test.  I don't mean to sound like I am fully disagreeing with everyone here.  I am in full agreement that these actions are wrong and that he is holding an incorrect doctrine.  But if he is seeking Christ (and we don't know), then I believe with every once of my being that God will show him the correct doctrines and convict his heart.  

The thing that concerned me was when I started hearing people say he was not saved.  I have heard way to many Christians in my day judge other people's salvation when they were guilty of doing things just as bad.  I just wanted to say that we should take out the planks in our eyes before we jump on the judging bandwagon and look at the splinter in our neighbor's eyes.
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2003, 12:25:32 AM »

Whitehorse,

Nice post.  A point I was also trying to point out is that everyone of us has willfully sinned. We all have sinned and knew full well that we were sinning.  We cannot use that as a litmus test.  I don't mean to sound like I am fully disagreeing with everyone here.  I am in full agreement that these actions are wrong and that he is holding an incorrect doctrine.  But if he is seeking Christ (and we don't know), then I believe with every once of my being that God will show him the correct doctrines and convict his heart.  

The thing that concerned me was when I started hearing people say he was not saved.  I have heard way to many Christians in my day judge other people's salvation when they were guilty of doing things just as bad.  I just wanted to say that we should take out the planks in our eyes before we jump on the judging bandwagon and look at the splinter in our neighbor's eyes.
I agree completely that we can not know who is and who is not saved.
However we can determine whether the evidence points to one who is most likely saved or most likely not saved. We are only dealing with a hypothetical anyway, all we have is AAAAís testimony.
On the other hand we can judge ourselves.
I am a divorced man. As long as my ex-wife lives I canít remarry.
While I comforted an old friend whose husband walked out we found ourselves attracted to each other. I loved the companionship, and the intimacy, I hated the sin.
Our sin didnít hurt anybody, it was against God only. It ate at me, and ate at me. Finally I had to break it off.
I found when in the relationship I couldnít read Gods word, I didnít pray, my relationship with God deteriorated. I couldnít look at God without feeling shame.
I had to question my own salvation. I just donít believe a child of God can continue in sin. It goes against our born again nature. The scripture seems to support that.

Romans 7:22  For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Romans 7:23  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Romans 7:24  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Romans 7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

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I used to believe in the freewill gospel, fortunately God didnít allow me to shut my mind. I am a seeker of the truth. It was hard for me to see that salvation was entirely Gods work, Now I wonder how I could have ever believed in freewill.
Think about the paralyzed man in Mark. His friends lowered him through the roof so Jesus could heal his body. Instead Jesus forgave him his sins, He saved the man. No freewill choice. Boom! saved.

Mark 2:5  When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.

Do you consider yourself born again? I am sure you do, you seem to be. God chose that term very deliberately. What can we contribute to our birth. Can we decide not to be born?
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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2003, 11:28:28 AM »

 Sounds like  'saved' is correct in post 32.

In reading this thread i couldnt help but think of  young boys pulling pranks on girls  cuz they  'liked'  em.

 Why is youth waisted on the young Tongue sheesh
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2003, 03:23:19 PM »

I have read through all of your posts - wow, such a huge response! - and it would take me forever to respond to all of them, so I'll try to reply in general.

Whitehorse, thanks for your concern.  I am also a little concerned for my roommate...she has tried to talk to him multiple times regarding this issue but he just cries and says that she's "taking my side".  This weekend he even gave her an ultimatium - either she sides with him, or sides with me.  He got QUITE angry because after our 8am classes, she eats breakfast with me (he's welcome to join our table, which has usually been the case) instead of leaving me to go sit a table alone with him.  He told her that I should've either left the table and gone somewhere else once he arrived, or she should've left the table to go sit with him.  And the worst part - I didn't even say anything to him!!!  I ate my breakfast in silence and didn't even look at him - I only talked with my roommate asked me a question.  

So yes, it concerns me that he feels so threatened by me that he gave his girlfriend an ultimatum.  To me, that's abuse.  Your boyfriend (or significant other) should NEVER dictate who your friends are, who you can talk to, etc. etc.  That is mental abuse.  I'm also a little confused...I know that I could never be in love with someone who treated me nicely but was so bitterly cruel to another person (who has done nothing).  A good quote - "A guy who is sweet to you but rude to the waitress is NOT a good guy."  It's so true.

Yes, my roommate is a Christian as well.  She seems to have a better grasp of the basic idea of Christianity but she still sat there and nodded her head when her boyfriend said that "You don't have to be nice just because you're a Christian.  ALL you have to do is believe in Jesus."

It still confuses me as to how someone like him could, on a technicality, get into heaven.  It also irritates me that he is getting FULL tuition on a special scholarship for all 4 years...and the scholarship is based on academics, leadership, and *CHARACTER*.  

As for those of you who advised me to go to his room when my roommate wasn't there and talk to him...no way.  I would be physically afraid to go in there by myself, especially if HIS roommate was there.  He's free to come and go into our room as he d*mn well pleases (my attempts to make him leave are useless - he totally ignores me), but it's well understood that should I ever set foot in his room, I'd be sorry.  I've been yelled at to get out before (despite my roommate's protests to let me stay because I wasn't doing anything!), and when I didn't leave immediately, I was dragged roughly off the couch by my ankles and shoved out, with the door slammed behind me.  Doesn't matter that my ROOMMATE was the one who invited me to come over - I didn't just invite myself in.  Not something I care to repeat.  

Bottom line - I don't want to get him angry.  I refuse to confront him out of the subject because if I did...I don't want to know what would happen.  I often lock the door to my room during the day so he won't just come in, looking for my roommate.  I don't like him being here when I'm alone.

For those of you who think that he "likes me" - think again.  Calling someone a slut, whore, b*tch, liar...harassing them constantly, calling them a "psycho", messing with their stuff while they're not there, talking badly about them behind their backs, saying that they "hate my presence", and spreading lies about a person...that's not "liking someone".  There's a difference between a guy joking around with a girl because he likes her, and a guy making a girl's life a living hell...to the point where she considers transferring college or applies for a room change.  

Thanks for all of your help. Smiley

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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2003, 03:33:43 PM »

I pray that God, I know that is not your thing, gives you wisdom.
It won't hurt to ask for His wisdom, even if you don't believe in Him.
By what you have said this guy has a serious power issue.
I hope your roomate and friend sees the light.
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2003, 05:25:23 PM »


Yes, he does seem to have a power, or control, issue.

Maybe this, AAAA... It also irritates me that he is getting FULL tuition on a special scholarship for all 4 years...and the scholarship is based on academics, leadership, and *CHARACTER*....

...has become a problem for him, and he doesn't realize it.  It's gone to his head maybe...

I'm sorry it's like this for you.  Believe me, I KNOW the roomate problems; not very pleasant.  Mine were Phi Beta Kappas, tops in the class, aggressive, studious and contempuous of me "the Christian".  Two months b4 graduation, one of them, whose thin stature I noticed belied a rather distending abdomen, came to the apartment reported doctor diagnosed leukemia--his spleen twice its normal size.  A pre-med double major, straight A's all the way--med schools were asking him to come to their school.   *sigh*

Two months later we were all graduated, but we never saw each other again.  But I had had the chance to explain the Garden of Eden's "freedom" of choice, and the free gift of God.

As difficult as these moments are, best always to treat them thoughtfully, carefully, as best you can, and with prayer in Jesus' Name...

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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2003, 02:17:48 AM »

You just might be surprised at what some people will do when they like someone.  You see you may be a threat to his relationship BECAUSE he likes you.  The thing you've done wrong is nothing except that he probably likes you.  I doubt he can handle that.

I have seen so many different types of people and how they act.  I still think he likes you but doesn't want to because his world would be all messed up.  He may have control issues as well but still.  His defence against his feelings are to mock, make fun of you ,and be just plain rude.

I think you need to work on some thigns a well.  If someone pestering you is enough for you to change schools I'd hate to see what happens to you in the real world.  I have had PLENTY of people in the owrk place that drive you nuts.  Sometimes (most of the time) it's even your boss.  You can't just go running away everytime someone ticks you off.  It's something you will need to learn to deal with.  You mind as well do it now.

Your best deffense against him is to simply ignore him.  If he makes threats, or physically confronts you, you do have RA's and other such peoples at school to help you out.

I'm also curious as to why you would ever go to his room regardless of who invited you.  You know he can be quite a pain in the butt, and your roomate has no say in inviting you there either.

mmmm, to be young again.
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2003, 07:25:08 AM »

Sorry.  Ol' boy grabs a girl for any reason and throws her out of a room and I'm poundin' him!  I like Mr. 5020's idea!  GET THE WHOLE DEFENSIVE LINE TO POUND HIM!!! Unless of course, he's on the football team...

I still think that the boy can be saved.  And AAAA, he's right.  If saved, he's still saved.  He's also terribly wrong to think that just because he gets into heaven someday, that there will be no punishment for his sinning against you.  He's saved, not by what he does, but by what Christ did.   Smiley

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