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The "Gospel of Judas"
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You know I really have to laugh when I see all the fuss about the so called “Lost Gospel Of Judas” This is just the latest of many attempts being made by an overwhelmingly atheistic media which has shown a programmatic hostility to orthodox Christianity and an odd sympathy for heresy.
Here’s a sample of the kind of outlandish language being used to describe this text… “
One of the most significant biblical finds of the last century—a lost gospel that could challenge what is believed about the story of Judas and his betrayal"
of Jesus.” First of all, this text is not, and never has been “Biblical” in the sense that it is any part of accepted cannon. These kind of wild statements are purposefully designed to fool the unlearned. It’s a common example of the kind of hostility toward orthodox Christianity we see all too often in media today.
Anything, which puts a literal rendering of the Holy Bible into question, is given “academy award” status, and promoted as being “authentic” yes, the texts are authentic as far as actually existing, however, the texts were not added into the cannon because they were written hundreds of years after the accepted Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, which date back to within 40 to 70 years after the actual events took place, and if you believe the latest evidence, the four gospels are probably much closer than the 40 to 70 years being ascribed to them at present.
This “Judas gospel” is part of the Gnostic writings, which are not “Gospels” but, rather, could be loosely referred to as “scriptures”, and more correctly referred to as a disingenuous attempt to rewrite the legitimate Gospels. Right from the start, the names prescribed to the Gnostic “gospels” are forgeries.
The Gnostic “gospel” of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary (Magdalene) etc. None of these scriptures were written by the authors ascribed to them, these scriptures are falsified right from the start.
If we’re going to make such grandiose statements such as “One of the most significant biblical finds of the last century—a lost gospel that could challenge what is believed about the story of Judas and his betrayal” in reference to this “Gospel of Judas nonsense, then we may as well add the “scriptures” of David Koresh and Jimmy Jones to the list as well.
John
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Amen brother. We know that the true Gospels were written much earlier than the ascribed timeframe popularly given to them. They were written by the eyewitnesses to the events of Jesus' life and were written during the time of their ministry's.
The false gnostic writings were written by indivivduals that wanted to destroy the word of God and support their false teachings. These people that are supporting such things today are getting desperate and will grab at anything to deceive the public into their way of thinking.
They will se in the end their mistake and will have to account ofr it personally when it is too late for them to change their minds.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on April 19, 2006, 12:06:29 PM
Amen brother. We know that the true Gospels were written much earlier than the ascribed timeframe popularly given to them. They were written by the eyewitnesses to the events of Jesus' life and were written during the time of their ministry's.
The false gnostic writings were written by indivivduals that wanted to destroy the word of God and support their false teachings. These people that are supporting such things today are getting desperate and will grab at anything to deceive the public into their way of thinking.
They will se in the end their mistake and will have to account ofr it personally when it is too late for them to change their minds.
Guess who bought the Judas gospels, and had them plastered all over the media Pastor Roger....
National Geographic! These clowns keep posting articles about the solid evidence for evolution, only to have articles which are exclusively evidence for microevolution!
EEEDEEOTS!
There's hardly ever a serious program on TV which takes the true Gospels and presents the very solid evidence for their reliability. But the second one of these flood "experts" comes on TV, or a new "gospel" is found such as this goofy Judas stuff, then it's all - sing along now!
"overtures, curtain lights, this is it, the night of nights, and oh what fun we'll have! On with the show this is it!"
John
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LOL ........ the cartoons are more educational than they are. It would figure that NG would do such after all look at who is running the show there.
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We have the Da Vinci Code, The gospel of Judas, The Jesus Pares and now we have The Jesus Dynasty. It is yet another book touting archaeological "evidence" that is blasphemous to say the least. It questions the Bible in aspects like Joseph and Jesus being a carpenter. Calling Him a "day laborer" instead. It also questions Jesus' lineage claiming it is not what the Bible says it to be. There is even a claim that the tomb of the "royal family" of Jesus has been located along with the bones of Mary Magdelene and other members of Jesus' family including the bones of Jesus.
These people just will not give up until they think that the truth of Jesus has been buried for good.
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Y'all know the closer we come to the end of Grace. The more, and more this will happen. How did the song go.............
"Baby you ain't seen nothing yet."
I think we have a little longer before Jesus calls us home.
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Quote from: DreamWeaver on April 19, 2006, 04:33:30 PM
Y'all know the closer we come to the end of Grace. The more, and more this will happen. How did the song go.............
"Baby you ain't seen nothing yet."
I think we have a little longer before Jesus calls us home.
Yes, we will see more of these things and they will pick up in intensity and speed.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on April 19, 2006, 05:20:34 PM
Yes, we will see more of these things and they will pick up in intensity and speed.
It's getting increasingly harder for those people who are actually seeking the truth with all these "expert" testimonials around.
The good news for today is that I went for a long drive to Toronto with my friend Dave, who I posted about a while back - he's the guy who totally rejected Jesus and got hostile about it. Dave is actually wanting me to tell him all about Jesus today, and it appears that he is heading in the right direction my brothers!
John
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Quote from: Bronzesnake on April 19, 2006, 10:22:24 PM
It's getting increasingly harder for those people who are actually seeking the truth with all these "expert" testimonials around.
The good news for today is that I went for a long drive to Toronto with my friend Dave, who I posted about a while back - he's the guy who totally rejected Jesus and got hostile about it. Dave is actually wanting me to tell him all about Jesus today, and it appears that he is heading in the right direction my brothers!
John
Praise God! That's great news brother.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on April 19, 2006, 10:40:23 PM
Praise God! That's great news brother.
Yes it is great news my brother, and thank you, because I know you, and others were praying for Dave!
John
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Quote from: Bronzesnake on April 19, 2006, 11:51:56 AM
Anything, which puts a literal rendering of the Holy Bible into question, is given “academy award” status, and promoted as being “authentic” yes, the texts are authentic as far as actually existing, however, the texts were not added into the cannon because they were written hundreds of years after the accepted Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, which date back to within 40 to 70 years after the actual events took place, and if you believe the latest evidence, the four gospels are probably much closer than the 40 to 70 years being ascribed to them at present.
This “Judas gospel” is part of the Gnostic writings, which are not “Gospels” but, rather, could be loosely referred to as “scriptures”, and more correctly referred to as a disingenuous attempt to rewrite the legitimate Gospels. Right from the start, the names prescribed to the Gnostic “gospels” are forgeries.
The Gnostic “gospel” of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary (Magdalene) etc. None of these scriptures were written by the authors ascribed to them, these scriptures are falsified right from the start.
John
you said it all right there Brother.
I read a little of the "gospel of mary" when I heard about the contiversy over it...................it's crap. you can tell right away that it is a self serving (not God serving) piece of junk that someone thought they could rattle the faith with.
Didn't waste any more time with the "other" gospels.
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Brothers and Sisters,
I don't think it's a coincidence that the devil is bringing the gnostic writings to light again. The gnostic writings represented the devil's attempt to stop or confuse GOD'S WORD then, and that's all they are worth now.
We do know that GOD'S WORD was not stopped, and the devil has not been able to destroy it over all these years. The only tool that the devil has is confusion, and he uses that with cunning quite well.
I think that all Christians should easily recognize that all of the things of the LORD are under assault from just about every angle. This is a time to stand up and speak up. It's always a time for prayer and asking GOD to strengthen us, guide us, and mold us for HIS use to say and do the things that bring GLORY to GOD.
Men trying to bring glory to themselves should be a hint that they are probably a false messenger and false teacher. The same would be true for men trying to bring glory or acceptance of things of this world. Christians should expect many false messengers and false teachers. It's sad that the Bible tells us that they will deceive many, so we know beyond any doubt that many will be deceived. Our part will be to yield to GOD'S WILL and go forth with whatever work HE has for us to do.
Brothers and Sisters, we should go forth gladly and with joy.
Love In Christ,
Tom
Philippians 3:8-9 NASB More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
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Quote from: Bronzesnake on April 19, 2006, 10:22:24 PM
It's getting increasingly harder for those people who are actually seeking the truth with all these "expert" testimonials around.
The good news for today is that I went for a long drive to Toronto with my friend Dave, who I posted about a while back - he's the guy who totally rejected Jesus and got hostile about it. Dave is actually wanting me to tell him all about Jesus today, and it appears that he is heading in the right direction my brothers!
John
Amen Bronzesnake,
Brother, this is more good news to give thanks for. The Holy Spirit has softened Dave's heart, and he's now ready to hear the Word of God. Brother, we both know that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Many will be praying that Dave accepts JESUS soon.
It's a beautiful thing to watch when someone starts seeking JESUS. JESUS is waiting with open arms.
Love In Christ,
Tom
Ephesians 5:1-2 NASB Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on April 19, 2006, 05:20:34 PM
Yes, we will see more of these things and they will pick up in intensity and speed.
Amen Brothers, that means one thing we all have our work cut out for us we need to get more people to know the REAL TRUTH before their minds are so warped with all this nonsense. The sad thing about it is that a lot of people are allowing their eternity to be chosen for them by not searching for the REAL TRUTH, and when it's presented to them their minds are so full of the garbage they've read, seen or heard that it is difficult for them to
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That is satan's tactic, that is how he works, thank God we know better, and that we are in a position to be able to teach others and lead them to Christ before it's too late.
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Quote from: Bronzesnake on April 19, 2006, 10:22:24 PM
It's getting increasingly harder for those people who are actually seeking the truth with all these "expert" testimonials around.
The good news for today is that I went for a long drive to Toronto with my friend Dave, who I posted about a while back - he's the guy who totally rejected Jesus and got hostile about it. Dave is actually wanting me to tell him all about Jesus today, and it appears that he is heading in the right direction my brothers!
John
AMEN!! Thats great news brother. I will keep praying for Dave.
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