Baptism

[Lou]

If you assume that I am taking credit for my salvation, then you are judging my heart and the conditions for which I accepted Christ.

[Lou]

By the way, don't swear.  Just let your yes be yes and no be no.

[airIam2worship]

By the way, don't swear.  Just let your yes be yes and no be no.

Amen Brother Lou.

[Soldier4Christ]

Ruth I showed you those verses on acknowledging, believing, and repenting because you said that we did not have anything to do in the matter. To this we can also add seek. God plainly tells us that we must do these things in order to receive the power of His Salvation. You clearly called them works. It is not a matter of works, it is a matter of obedience. We are to be obedient to Him. If we do not obey and do these things then we are rejecting Him and He will reject us.

Mat 7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Mat 7:8  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


Luk 11:9  And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
Luk 11:10  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

[Soldier4Christ]

I add another Amen to that brother Lou.

[RKJ]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2006-04-12-baptism-trend_x.htm

"statistics find Americans slowly drifting away from the ancient baptismal ritual."

What is your experience at your church? What is your reaction to the article?

 
Topics long forgotten breed such feelings!

[airIam2worship]

Ruth I showed you those verses on acknowledging, believing, and repenting because you said that we did not have anything to do in the matter. To this we can also add seek. God plainly tells us that we must do these things in order to receive the power of His Salvation. You clearly called them works. It is not a matter of works, it is a matter of obedience. We are to be obedient to Him. If we do not obey and do these things then we are rejecting Him and He will reject us.

Mat 7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Mat 7:8  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


Luk 11:9  And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
Luk 11:10  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Amen Brother.

[Ruth]

So...nobody here is judging me? 

You sure have a funny way of showing that. 

Ok, I'm done with this topic.  It is clear we cannot agree.  However, I'm still open for questions.

[dan p]

Would anyone on this tread believe in Apostlic Seccession ?  By that I mean the chose of Pope after Pope in seccession ? Most of you would say Idon't believe in Apostlic Seccession. If it is true  , that you don't in Apostle Seccession, THEN WHY DO BELIEVE IN APOSTLIC BAPTISMS?   You can't be against apostlic Popes than deny apostlic baptism. Remember that the Gospel was still going th Jews only per Acts 11: 19. And you have to notice that only Jews were being baptized and not Gentiles.  Probably some one will mention Cornelius, but I have and answer for that. Those that believe IN BAPTISM will have to answer the difference between the formula of Matt 28: 19 in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the formula used in Acts 2:38 where they are baptized IN THE NAME THE JESUS CHRIST, AND WHAT IS THE DIFFENENCE ?  The Matt 28 passage , they have to go to all the world to use , the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, WHERE in Acts 2:38 it is for the murder of their Messiah.