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« on: March 07, 2006, 08:54:30 AM »

Pastor Roger and others here have put up some excellent posts on today's world events, and those are Biblical signs of where we are at prophecy-wise. But I feel some of the younger generation have a more difficult time understanding a lot of that because of the socialist ideas that have crept into our education system today. I served my country during the Vietnam War, so I'm a bit older, and remember growing up during the Cold War era when the battle lines against world Communism were clearly drawn. While in the USAF I even recall classroom instruction teaching about the principles and beliefs of the Communist system and how to recognize it. I've found too many young people today that lack understanding on that system, and how it is still operating today, and how God's Word reveals that Russia will be a major threat in the latter days before Christ's return. (See the latter day alignment of nations given in Ezekiel 38. The Hebrew for "chief" there, about the chief prince of Meshech, is the word 'Rosh', which scholars have revealed is from the word 'Rus', means the area of Russia.)

We are definitely not hearing the word Communism used in today's media like it was when I grew up. I've noticed a lot of young people today believe the false notion that we defeated Communism under the Reagan administration, when the Berlin Wall was allowed to come down, and the Soviets declared Perestroika. Sadly, too many of my generation believe that also. True, the Soviets have never defeated us on the battlefield, and they know they can never beat us on the battlefield. That's why they have resorted to a system to takeover the West from corrupting it 'within'. And it's not difficult to fathom that some our so-called leaders are helping them. That may be the really hard part to understand, why some of our own American leaders would turn against God, our nation, our military that's done such a good job, and sell us out.

First, here's some reference works for documentation on these things, just to show that I'm not popping all this out of nowhere:

1) "Proofs Of A Conspiracy", by John Robison (1798?). Robison was an English Mason, and wrote about events leading up to the French Revolution, and its connection with the Jacobin clubs of France in taking over the French lodges. He quoted from the secret papers found on the body of an agent of Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati, which outlined many ideas of a plan for world takeover. The Bavarian Illuminati was banned in Europe after those papers were discovered, but Weishaupt said it would go ten times greater into secrecy if its aims were ever found out. The ideals and principles in those papers reveal the plan that world Socialism and revolution to overthrow all governments and particularly Christianity, existed long before Marx or Lenin started Communism.

2) "The Naked Communist", by Cleon Skousen. Skousen was a 16 year FBI agent back in the 50's and 60's. He later was a professor at Brigham Young University (I am not a Mormon by the way; I'm a Protestant Christian). He wrote this in 1958. In it he outlined 45 points from the Soviet long-range plan to takeover the West. Some of those points can be clearly seen working today. This is by far the easiest book to read on the Communist ideology. Skousen gave a good warning for Christians with this work.

3) "New Lies For Old" by Anatoliy Golitsyn. He is an ex-KGB Colonel who defected to the United States in the 1960's with his family. He went to the U.S. State Department with a warning about the Soviet long-range strategy against the West. They didn't listen, so he got permission to write on it to the American public. His works have been ostracized by some so-called expert advisors on Soviet affairs from the Ivy League schools. Nevertheless, Golitysn predicted the Soviets would allow the Berlin Wall to come down if their 2nd phase disinformation strategy worked against the West. It happened a year later after he wrote this book, along with many other things he warns about. He reveals the Soviets changed their strategy after the Stalinist regime towards a more peaceful subversive strategy against the West. The long-range plan was devised in 1958, and has 3 phases. The last phase included the possibility in bringing the Berlin Wall down to seek a Socialist merger between East and West. He also reveals how religious summits have been held in Russia with Western religious leaders in getting them on the 'peace' plan, for the main purpose of pacifying the West towards disarmament. (Tell me that hasn't worked today!). Another matter he covers is how the Soviets planned as part of their long-range strategy to use Islamic terrorism against the West!

4) "Tragedy And Hope", by Carroll Quigley. Quigley was professor of history at Georgetown University (Bill Clinton studied under him there, and endorsed him). Quigley wrote this work in the early 1960's. He had to sue his publisher in 1966 to find out why they stopped printing his book. He found out the publishers had destroyed the printing plates, and said his book must have said something the Insiders didn't want known. 1300 pages and a hard read, but it's packed. Quigley claims he has been allied with what some have called the eastern seaboard 'Establishment' for most of his life, and that for two years he was allowed to see their secret records. His main argument was that the secret history has been a significant factor, enough to be known, and he didn't see why they wanted to keep it hidden. It really shows how vain Quigley is, because in it he reveals the connection of the British Round Table groups with the American Council On Foreign Relation (CFR), and the connection with the Rhodes Scholarship Trust founded in memory of Cecil B. Rhodes, the British merchant who owned gold and diamond assets in Africa.

Continued in Part 2...

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Continued from above...

Quigley revealed the hard part that's difficult to believe about some of our American leaders, and why those leaders do things not in our best interest while appearing to serve our nation the rest of the time. The Rhodes Scholarship program, he reveals, is really a school for future western leaders on the program of world Socialism towards a one world government. It's not just a program for smart people like most of us think (Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar by the way, and he went to Oxford for that schooling). Quigley also stated, in a matter of factly way, that the Establishment also sees no problem in working with the Communists, and often has done so. He does not talk about British Cosmopolitanism or Fabian Socialism, which one must learn from other sources for this tie in. The Fabian Socialists of Britain are for a one world Socialist state, just like the Communists. The difference is, the Fabian Socialists don't want to use force, but instead by bringing it through peacetime legislation, little by little (i.e. changing the laws). Whereas, the Communist system believes in using force.

How does all this affect us Christians? Well, it already has affected us, and many can't see it but seem to be groping in the dark for answers. God told us about this in His Word. It is written and will be understood if we listen to Him and ponder it.

One of the things Quigley reveals in his history about western leaders on the Socialist one world boat, is how those can include some very high upward leaders who profess Christ Jesus as their Savior. He shows that those leaders from America and Great Britain actually believe in a type of Kingdom of Heaven in the here and now sense, and that's it's their responsibility to help bring it to the whole world today. In reality though, those are really helping to fulfill Bible prophecy about the final one world 'beast' system that will be over all nations and peoples on earth, whether they know it or not. It appears they actually believe they can establish God's Kingdom in the here and now. This is why it is very difficult to argue with them, because they see themselves as the benefactors of mankind, and think they can bring peace on earth eventually. And many working for their system will have the same kind of world peace ideas, seeing themselves as unselfish helpers of mankind, when all along they are only being used to bring in the future rule of the Antichrist.

Why is God going to allow that one world system to happen with the Antichrist ruling over the whole world for the latter days? Ezekiel 38 and 39, the Book of Daniel, and our Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation give many of the answers to that. One of the main reasons God gives in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is about the battle of Hamongog, which is to be upon Russia and its allies when they come upon Israel to surround it. God is going to fight that battle, not us. In Daniel and Revelation He said the power of His people will be overcome by that system, but only for a short time. The reason is, if He allows us to defeat His enemies, then they won't get the full effect of knowing He is The GOD, and there is none other. This is why we are being allowed to be weakened today by Christ's enemies. The weapons we are to fight with is the whole Armour of God (Ephesians 6). It's written in Luke 21 that some believers on The Savior are to be delivered up in the latter days, to give a Testimony for Christ. And the adversaries who hear that from The Holy Spirit will not be able to gainsay nor resist what is said at that time.

The Bible blueprint for this future one world kingdom is the type of kingdom Daniel was under in old Babylon. God promised Israel they would go into captivity for 70 years, and not to raise up literal arms against it, and that they would dwell in Babylon and build houses and plant vineyards, and bear children, i.e. live in peace (see Jeremiah). After that 70 years captivity, many of Judah didn't want to return to Jerusalem because they had gotten so well established in Babylon. God is able to take care of His people. In the latter years of Daniel's captivity, that's when the false prophets had the king of Babylon setup the false golden image for everyone to bow down to at the sound of the psalter. In Rev.13 another false 'image' is to be setup for the latter days for all to bow down to. That's from the old Babylon captivity blueprint, which is an 'ensample' to us (1 Cor.10:11). Have Faith, for Emmanuel Christ is with us.

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2006, 10:38:55 AM »

Hi Dave,

Yes, I agree. I started my Navy career during Viet Nam so that puts us about the same age. I would venture to say that not only does the younger generation not get taught what communism truly is but it is going to the point that they are being taught that it is a good thing. We have many in government offices right now that are promoting communism. This is why I said in the early 70's that the only way communism was going to take over the U.S. was from the inside because they certainly couldn't beat us otherwise.

I am glad that you mentioned islam in this post. There is a thread on end times in the Bible study area that is covering what islam may have to do with this subject. I find your points on this interesting to say the least.


(btw, DreamWeaver is the one posting most of the news on the end times right here in the Prophecy - Current events area.)


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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2006, 01:32:14 PM »

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In reality though, those are really helping to fulfill Bible prophecy about the final one world 'beast' system that will be over all nations and peoples on earth, whether they know it or not.
They are simply being led to do Gods will, whether they know it or not.

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In Daniel and Revelation He said the power of His people will be overcome by that system, but only for a short time.
Seven years, of Tribulation. Or if you wish, 3 &1/2 years of Tribulation, 3 &1/2 years of Great Tribulation.

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(btw, DreamWeaver is the one posting most of the news on the end times right here in the Prophecy - Current events area.)
Brother, you have posted news on, the coming of the end times as well. So please take some of the credit.

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2006, 02:13:42 PM »


Brother, you have posted news on, the coming of the end times as well. So please take some of the credit.



I wasn't giving you all the credit, brother, just what's due.   Wink

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2006, 02:25:29 PM »

I wasn't giving you all the credit, brother, just what's due.   Wink


[THREAD HIJACK] But I like sitting in the background, unnoticed........ Smiley
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But I like sitting in the background, unnoticed........ Smiley

 Huh Lips Sealed Grin Grin
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But I like sitting in the background, unnoticed........ Smiley

Since when?    Huh Roll Eyes Huh  Undecided
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Since when?    Huh Roll Eyes Huh  Undecided

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I notice your smilie is pointing at you. Are you laughting at yourself?
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You just couldn't sit quietly in the corner could ya DW?
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2006, 02:47:47 PM »

You just couldn't sit quietly in the corner could ya DW?
In a corner, nope, I can't!

I'll see y'all later, my daughter is here to visit me. We had a wonderful day yesterday, when she came to visit me.[/THREAD HIJACK]
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