Imminent Attacks

[sincereheart]

Firstly, the fact that one or two out of a hundred Christians might get the message from God to be a soldier...

I don't imagine anyone actually believes that God calls all Christians to be in the military- But He has called many in the military to follow Him. That does not make the military a Christian organization. Nor does it make it UNChristian to serve militarily. But that holds true in other jobs/careers, too. There ARE Christian doctors and police and teachers and ... but that does not make the organization that employs them "Christian". But it does mean that there are Christians in the organizations.

Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him.
1 Corinthians 7:20

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Colossians 3:22-24

Also see 1 Peter 2.
 

The feeling of God cringing in me when I am told that the job of a soldier in todays world is to be a trained assassin...

You were told that by one recruiter and so it stands that he speaks for all the military? And why were you even talking to a military recruiter if you had no intention of joining?

BUT NONE OF YOU CAN SHOW ME A VERSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT GIVING JESUS/GODS/HOLY SPIRIT APPROVAL TO BE A PART OF OUR COUNTRIES MILITARY FORCES.

See Above.

btw, take into account "soldier" in NT, actually means police officer.

What is a 'centurion'?

Commander of a hundred men.

Original Word ekatontarxh
Transliterated Word Hekatontarches
1. an officer in the Roman army

Original Word kenturiwn
Transliterated Word Kenturion
1. centurion, an officer in the Roman army

CENTURION As the name implies, hekatontarches or hekatontarchos, kenturion, Latin centurio, was the commander of a hundred men, more or less, in a Roman legion. Matthew and Luke use the Greek word while Mark prefers the Latin form, as he does in the case of other words, seeing that he wrote primarily for Roman readers. The number of centurions in a legion was 60, that being at all epochs the number of centuries, although the number varied in the cohort or speira. The ordinary duties of the centurion were to drill his men, inspect their arms, food and clothing, and to command them in the camp and in the field. Centurions were sometimes employed on detached service the conditions of which in the provinces are somewhat obscure. Men like Cornelius and Julius... They and other centurions mentioned in the Gospels are represented by the sacred writers in a favorable light.

Centurion
[ARMY]
II. ROMAN ARMY.--The Roman army was divided into legions, the number of which varied considerably (from 3000 to 6000), each under six tribuni ("chief captains,") who commanded by turns. The legion was subdivided into ten cohorts ("band,") the cohort into three maniples, and the maniple into two centuries, containing originally 100 men, as the name implies, but subsequently from 50 to 100 men, according to the strength of the legion. There were thus 60 centuries in a legion, each under the command of a centurion. In addition to the legionary cohorts, independent cohorts of volunteers served under the Roman standards. One of these cohorts was named the Italian, as consisting of volunteers from Italy. The headquarters of the Roman forces in Judea were at Caesarea.

"The centurions mentioned in the New Testament are uniformly spoken of in terms of praise, whether in the Gospels or in the Acts. It is interesting to compare this with the statement of Polybius (vi. 24), that the centurions were chosen by merit, and so were men remarkable not so much for their daring courage as for their deliberation, constancy, and strength of mind.", Dr. Maclear's N. T. Hist.

[airIam2worship]

He was grossly misusing the Scriptures. I must add that he was the one who was abrupt (UNDERSTATED!), and that was from his first post here.

AMEN, BEP's, I've noticed that many who join and don't introduce themselves, just sort of jump right in and start an argument, don't stay very long.
that is good.
God separates the sheep from the goats.

[Soldier4Christ]

I don't imagine anyone actually believes that God calls all Christians to be in the military- But He has called many in the military to follow Him. That does not make the military a Christian organization. Nor does it make it UNChristian to serve militarily. But that holds true in other jobs/careers, too. There ARE Christian doctors and police and teachers and ... but that does not make the organization that employs them "Christian". But it does mean that there are Christians in the organizations.

Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him.
1 Corinthians 7:20

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Colossians 3:22-24

Also see 1 Peter 2.
 
You were told that by one recruiter and so it stands that he speaks for all the military? And why were you even talking to a military recruiter if you had no intention of joining?

See Above.

What is a 'centurion'?

Commander of a hundred men.

Original Word ekatontarxh
Transliterated Word Hekatontarches
1. an officer in the Roman army

Original Word kenturiwn
Transliterated Word Kenturion
1. centurion, an officer in the Roman army

CENTURION As the name implies, hekatontarches or hekatontarchos, kenturion, Latin centurio, was the commander of a hundred men, more or less, in a Roman legion. Matthew and Luke use the Greek word while Mark prefers the Latin form, as he does in the case of other words, seeing that he wrote primarily for Roman readers. The number of centurions in a legion was 60, that being at all epochs the number of centuries, although the number varied in the cohort or speira. The ordinary duties of the centurion were to drill his men, inspect their arms, food and clothing, and to command them in the camp and in the field. Centurions were sometimes employed on detached service the conditions of which in the provinces are somewhat obscure. Men like Cornelius and Julius... They and other centurions mentioned in the Gospels are represented by the sacred writers in a favorable light.

Centurion
[ARMY]
II. ROMAN ARMY.--The Roman army was divided into legions, the number of which varied considerably (from 3000 to 6000), each under six tribuni ("chief captains,") who commanded by turns. The legion was subdivided into ten cohorts ("band,") the cohort into three maniples, and the maniple into two centuries, containing originally 100 men, as the name implies, but subsequently from 50 to 100 men, according to the strength of the legion. There were thus 60 centuries in a legion, each under the command of a centurion. In addition to the legionary cohorts, independent cohorts of volunteers served under the Roman standards. One of these cohorts was named the Italian, as consisting of volunteers from Italy. The headquarters of the Roman forces in Judea were at Caesarea.

"The centurions mentioned in the New Testament are uniformly spoken of in terms of praise, whether in the Gospels or in the Acts. It is interesting to compare this with the statement of Polybius (vi. 24), that the centurions were chosen by merit, and so were men remarkable not so much for their daring courage as for their deliberation, constancy, and strength of mind.", Dr. Maclear's N. T. Hist.

Amen sister. We all have our calling in life. Each of us serves Him in a different line of work. We cannot all be a hand or foot.

[Soldier4Christ]

AMEN, BEP's, I've noticed that many who join and don't introduce themselves, just sort of jump right in and start an argument, don't stay very long.
that is good.
God separates the sheep from the goats.

Amen sister. 

[Shammu]

God separates the sheep from the goats.

AMEN sister, allow me to add................

Matthew 31-46 31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.  32 All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;  33 And He will cause the sheep to stand at His right hand, but the goats at His left.  34 Then the King will say to those at His right hand, Come, you blessed of My Father [you [g]favored of God and appointed to eternal salvation], inherit (receive as your own) the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.  35 For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you [h]brought Me together with yourselves and welcomed and entertained and lodged Me,  36 I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me [j]with help and ministering care, I was in prison and you came to see Me.  37 Then the just and upright will answer Him, Lord, when did we see You hungry and gave You food, or thirsty and gave You something to drink?  38 And when did we see You a stranger and welcomed and entertained You, or naked and clothed You?  39 And when did we see You sick or in prison and came to visit You?  40 And the King will reply to them, Truly I tell you, in so far as you did it for one of the least [[k]in the estimation of men] of these My brethren, you did it for Me.  41Then He will say to those at His left hand, Begone from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels!  42 For I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink,  43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome Me and entertain Me, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me [l]with help and ministering care.  44 Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You? 45 And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [[m]in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me. 46 Then they will go away into eternal punishment, but those who are just and upright and in right standing with God into eternal life.

Resting in the hands, of the Lord.
Bob

2 Samuel 22:51 He is a Tower of salvation and great deliverance to His king, and shows loving-kindness to His anointed, to David and his offspring forever.

[nChrist]

AMEN, BEP's, I've noticed that many who join and don't introduce themselves, just sort of jump right in and start an argument, don't stay very long.
that is good.
God separates the sheep from the goats.

Hello Sister Maria,

I've thought about this many times, and I think that you are right. We've even had groups of people come here with nothing but an agenda to cause trouble. It boils down to the fact that the devil is not going to like any person or group trying to serve the LORD. So, we should expect to be attacked by the devil when God's Work is being done. In all reality, we should simply smile and work even harder when the devil attacks. It's very unfortunate that the devil causes many Christians to become discouraged and give up.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Matthew 11:28-30 NASB  "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.  "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.  "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

[airIam2worship]

Hello Sister Maria,

I've thought about this many times, and I think that you are right. We've even had groups of people come here with nothing but an agenda to cause trouble. It boils down to the fact that the devil is not going to like any person or group trying to serve the LORD. So, we should expect to be attacked by the devil when God's Work is being done. In all reality, we should simply smile and work even harder when the devil attacks. It's very unfortunate that the devil causes many Christians to become discouraged and give up.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Matthew 11:28-30 NASB  "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.  "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.  "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

BEP's, I haven't been a member of the forum for even a year yet, but I have noticed that most of the 'trouble makers', once they are exposed and the truth is presented to them they flee, just as the Bible says resist the devil and he will flee from you. All we have to do is keep speaking the truth and backing it up with God's Word and they just don't want to hang around much longer once they have been proven wrong, they even take offense and star name calling and you can just see how their vocabulary changes. Oh well, I am so thankful that we have the Sword of the Spirit, and that we can call on Jesus at any time and the Holy Spirit teaches us what to say.

[sincereheart]

"lightsavour" has been registered since June 04, 2003. Though I disagree with many of his/her opinions, I can't say that his views are uncommon. Many believe that Jesus was a pacifist. The view most were raised with was of a white Jesus with blue eyes that was somewhat wimpy.

[nChrist]

BEP's, I haven't been a member of the forum for even a year yet, but I have noticed that most of the 'trouble makers', once they are exposed and the truth is presented to them they flee, just as the Bible says resist the devil and he will flee from you. All we have to do is keep speaking the truth and backing it up with God's Word and they just don't want to hang around much longer once they have been proven wrong, they even take offense and star name calling and you can just see how their vocabulary changes. Oh well, I am so thankful that we have the Sword of the Spirit, and that we can call on Jesus at any time and the Holy Spirit teaches us what to say.

Hello Sister Maria,

Some trouble-makers do flee, but there are others who just get angry and try harder to disrupt the peace and fellowship here. I really think that very few people know what goes on behind the scenes to preserve Christians Unite as a place for Christian family fellowship. Some of the cases are almost beyond belief, and we have those on a fairly regular basis.

Regardless, you are 100% correct that the Word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword. Exposure to this mighty weapon has shaped many millions of lives. Many lost people don't yield with their first or second exposure to God's Word, but God's Word keeps working on them and they eventually give their lives to JESUS. This is just one reason why we know that the promise of God is true: HIS WORD will never return void. We know that many will reject JESUS to the end of their lives, but that still doesn't mean that the effort to reach them was wasted. God may use that effort for the people around them.

Sister, I also love what you said about the Holy Spirit teaching us or telling us what to do with the lost. If God gives us an opportunity to witness, God will also equip us to do His Will. Many Christians say that they lack confidence or they don't know what to say, but it's amazing how God works. I'm thinking right now about children witnessing to their own parents and how this might be the most difficult example of witnessing. BUT, we know that God uses children to do His Will. I know there are times when the polished pastor with all of the degrees fails, and God may use a child or a person with much less skill to bring a lost person to Christ. All we have to know is GOD works in whatever manner HE Will.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Ephesians 5:19-20 NASB  speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord; always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;

[nChrist]

"lightsavour" has been registered since June 04, 2003. Though I disagree with many of his/her opinions, I can't say that his views are uncommon. Many believe that Jesus was a pacifist. The view most were raised with was of a white Jesus with blue eyes that was somewhat wimpy.

Hello Sincereheart,

Sister, you make a very interesting observation, and it's quite true. I have two perceptions of Jesus Christ in my thoughts almost continually: one from Matthew and one from Revelation. The contrast is dramatic but completely TRUE. YES, we do have a kind, loving, and merciful JESUS with His arms outstretched to the lost. Those who reject HIM as Lord and Saviour will meet the JESUS of Revelation, The LORD of LORDS pouring out His terrible wrath on evil.

I do think that it's interesting to hear how many people think that JESUS might have looked when He walked this earth 2,000 years ago. Some might base their thoughts simply on His kindness and mercy, but others might add in the rigors of His life and ministry. I would suspect that He was a very strong man, far from being a wimp.

Sister, I think this would make a very interesting Bible study.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 9:9-10 NASB  The LORD also will be a stronghold for the oppressed, A stronghold in times of trouble;  And those who know Your name will put their trust in You, For You, O LORD, have not forsaken those who seek You.

[airIam2worship]

AMEN, Brother. My daughter sends my 3 little grandaughters to church on Wednesday and Sunday every week, and they come home telling their mom and dad all about Jesus. The 4 year old told her on Sunday, "Jesus is the Rock". my daughter was surprised that they have learned so much. That makes me happy. Now my daughter is contemplating going to church too. She was saved at the age of 12, but she slowly drifted away from the things of the Lord. But God in His ever loving mercy and grace, never gives up on His own. And no one can snatch one of His out of His hand.
Hallelujah!

[Soldier4Christ]

Amen Brother Tom, I too think it would make an interesting Bible study.

Personally I when I think of Jesus it is as a loving Father. One that is gentle and willing to give His very life for those that He loves. One that was not afraid to stand up to the masses of Israel and tell them how wrong they were. One that faced the Roman courts without fear even knowing what was soon to happen to Him. A person with the strength and will to face the trials of the flesh, even satan himself, and remain victorious. Not a weak person at all. Yet the kindest most gentle person that every lived. He was also humble in that He did not think Himself above getting down and in the dirt to help those that He loves so very much.

[airIam2worship]

Hello Sincereheart,

Sister, you make a very interesting observation, and it's quite true. I have two perceptions of Jesus Christ in my thoughts almost continually: one from Matthew and one from Revelation. The contrast is dramatic but completely TRUE. YES, we do have a kind, loving, and merciful JESUS with His arms outstretched to the lost. Those who reject HIM as Lord and Saviour will meet the JESUS of Revelation, The LORD of LORDS pouring out His terrible wrath on evil.

I do think that it's interesting to hear how many people think that JESUS might have looked when He walked this earth 2,000 years ago. Some might base their thoughts simply on His kindness and mercy, but others might add in the rigors of His life and ministry. I would suspect that He was a very strong man, far from being a wimp.

Sister, I think this would make a very interesting Bible study.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 9:9-10 NASB  The LORD also will be a stronghold for the oppressed, A stronghold in times of trouble;  And those who know Your name will put their trust in You, For You, O LORD, have not forsaken those who seek You.

I just can't resist throwing my 2 cents in. So here goes.

I think Jesus was very authorative, and yet humble enough that little children felt so comforted by Him and around Him. He certainly was not a wimp, although He was meek, and mild. When I read in the Gospels of Matt 21:13, Mark 11:17, and Luke 19:46; I can't help but imagine His zealousness not only for His Father's House, but for righteousness as well. I picture Him as having had such power and authority that no one even dared say one word. Those are just some of my thoughts. Maybe others have additional thoughts or even different views, and I agree with you BEP's this would make a very interesting Topic to study.