Imminent Attacks

[2nd Timothy]

I guarantee would not want me to stand up and teach

About the only thing you have said so far that I would agree with I'm afraid.

If you make a military force of destabilization seem like some God-justified policing force, then you are the blinded ones, not me.

I notice you did not respond to Romans 13.  

While there is still a chance to be saved, we must be of the heart that all are the same as us.

Are you suggesting that one who differs with your sermon here is unsaved?  I certainly hope not!

[Soldier4Christ]

Amen DW and 2T.

lightsavour

The NT does tell about Soldiers not just a police force. A Roman Centurion was a soldier not just a police force. The Greek word stratiōtēs translated as soldier in the NT does mean  warrior, soldier, not police.

This is not a Canadian/United States disagreement and don't try turning it into one. No one here indicated such except yourself.

Now I ask the same question that 2nd Timothy did,

Are you suggesting that one who differs with your sermon here is unsaved?

[lightsavour]

no 2nd timothy i think your post was completely ignorant, and took things out of context that i said. which if i did stand up and preach aginst there would be MANY people to back me up. Many who you seem to think agree with you in trashing me without taking into account the full context.,.... esp about me referring to if people want to hear me preach or not. if i have the truth (understanding that i am preaching a need for salvation to the lost, not to us genuine believers) then you have NO right to dismiss Gods ability to use me. You do have a right to be ignopant though, but i would suggest your post/attitude just backs up my post by being unfounded and weak-hearted... the essence of this destablization force

God bless

[Soldier4Christ]

no 2nd timothy i think your post was completely ignorant

That is a direct attack against another. Attacks on others are against forum rules and will not be tolerated. Consider this a formal warning. 2nd Timothy did not "trash you", he simply asked a question.

[Soldier4Christ]

Brothers and Sisters,

I had this thread temporarily locked due to the problems occured on it. It is reopened now for a peaceful discussion of this subject if you wish to continue on it.

[2nd Timothy]

no 2nd timothy i think your post was completely ignorant, and took things out of context that i said. which if i did stand up and preach aginst there would be MANY people to back me up. Many who you seem to think agree with you in trashing me without taking into account the full context.,.... esp about me referring to if people want to hear me preach or not. if i have the truth (understanding that i am preaching a need for salvation to the lost, not to us genuine believers) then you have NO right to dismiss Gods ability to use me. You do have a right to be ignopant though, but i would suggest your post/attitude just backs up my post by being unfounded and weak-hearted... the essence of this destablization force

God bless

Perhaps my first post was a bit brash.   However, this truth that you are claiming, you have offered no scripture to back it up.   I am all ears and still waiting for your response to Romans 13.   Preaching to the lost for salvation is one thing, preaching to the choir is quite another.   All the Christians here that I am aware of have a heart for the lost, but that in no way scripturally prevents us from serving as soldiers in the military.   Even if that means taking up arms to defend our nation.   Show me scripture that says contrary.   You have hinted repeatedly that because we take this position that we are somehow preventing the Gospel from reaching muslims.    How does defence prevent that?

I will wait to hear your response to Romans 13....

::::goes and sits in corner for self appointed time out/cooling period:::  

[Soldier4Christ]

2T,

You won't be getting a response. There is none to be had. 

[airIam2worship]

2T,

You won't be getting a response. There is none to be had. 

Yeah 2T come on out if the corner, it seems that 2 threads started by the same person are nothing but argument on the part of the person that started it.
I pray that the light will come on SOON

[2nd Timothy]

2T,

You won't be getting a response. There is none to be had. 

:::comes out of corner feeling refreshed with new outlook on things:::  

Sorry if I was bit abrupt with this fella guys.  Just really burns my bacon when some one starts trying to teach something that scripturally doesn't jive.

[Soldier4Christ]

:::comes out of corner feeling refreshed with new outlook on things:::   

Sorry if I was bit abrupt with this fella guys.  Just really burns my bacon when some one starts trying to teach something that scripturally doesn't jive.

I saw no brashness on your part. It is sometimes necessary to just get to the point and that is what I saw.

[Shammu]

:::comes out of corner feeling refreshed with new outlook on things:::   

Sorry if I was bit abrupt with this fella guys.  Just really burns my bacon when some one starts trying to teach something that scripturally doesn't jive.

I know it, and most of the rest of us know it brother. Do you feel better, after your bout in the corner?

[2nd Timothy]

Do you feel better, after your bout in the corner?

Why yes I do!...lol

[Soldier4Christ]

It sounds like the corner is his "quiet place".

[Shammu]

I pray that the light will come on SOON

Sister, Keep Looking Up!

[nChrist]

:::comes out of corner feeling refreshed with new outlook on things:::   

Sorry if I was bit abrupt with this fella guys.  Just really burns my bacon when some one starts trying to teach something that scripturally doesn't jive.

2nd Timothy,

Brother, I don't think that you were abrupt at all. In fact, I think that you were short: 2 jabs, 1 left hook, 2 uppercuts, and 1 right cross. 

He was grossly misusing the Scriptures. I must add that he was the one who was abrupt (UNDERSTATED!), and that was from his first post here.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 5:1-2 NASB  Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.