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Quote from: twin_trip_mommy on March 25, 2004, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: ebia on March 23, 2004, 02:17:53 PM
Where does the bible say that God intends those rights to apply, in full, to the unborn? It doesn't - it's an assumption. It's an assumption I happen to agree with but you're only kidding yourselves by pretending it's clear cut.
As it is written in
Psalm 139: 13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,
16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
I don’t know if I would call it assumption or interpretation. I guess some would. My understanding of these verses is He knew me before I was born. He created me, He knit me together. All my days were planned. I don’t think anyone should have the right to end that life that God created. So therefore All life from conception to natural death belong to Him the creator of life and no one has a right to take that life.
The bible tells us that God knew us before we were even concieved - do you regard preventing conception as murder?
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All life from conception to natural death belong to Him the creator of life and no one has a right to take that life.
I take it you only eat minerals then?
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I don’t know if I would call it assumption or interpretation. I guess some would. My understanding of these verses is He knew me before I was born. He created me, He knit me together. All my days were planned. I don’t think anyone should have the right to end that life that God created. So therefore All life from conception to natural death belong to Him the creator of life and no one has a right to take that life.
AMEN SISTER! - That's the facts and much more. God knew you before the foundation of the world, and he also knew the number of hairs on your head before the foundation of the world. It's not interpretation or assumption - JUST FACTS.
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Ebia -
The bible tells us that God knew us before we were even concieved - do you regard preventing conception as murder?
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All life from conception to natural death belong to Him the creator of life and no one has a right to take that life.
Ebia -
I take it you only eat minerals then?
Ebia,
You know that you don't have a Biblical stance on abortion. Everyone else knows it also. Your sidebar questions on such a serious topic are really petty. If you wish to use the Bible on the issue of abortion, abortion is wrong. You know it, and everyone else knows it. I never cease to be amazed how some folks claiming to be Christians try to make intellectual nonsense more important than the Holy Bible.
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Ebia -
The bible tells us that God knew us before we were even concieved - do you regard preventing conception as murder?
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All life from conception to natural death belong to Him the creator of life and no one has a right to take that life.
Ebia -
I take it you only eat minerals then?
Ebia,
You know that you don't have a Biblical stance on abortion. Everyone else knows it also. Your sidebar questions on such a serious topic are really petty. If you wish to use the Bible on the issue of abortion, abortion is wrong. You know it, and everyone else knows it. I never cease to be amazed how some folks claiming to be Christians try to make intellectual nonsense more important than the Holy Bible.
You haven't demonstrated it from the bible though. You can claim you have as much as you like, the fact remains that you haven't & can't.
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wow they found life on mars!!!!!!!!!
the news media and liberal wackos are all excited over this, spec of dried up life.
good thing they didnt find a 3 month old fetus , or a 9 month old partail birth aborted baby because that wouldn't have counted ,thats not life
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Quote from: BUTCHA on March 26, 2004, 09:08:49 PM
good thing they didnt find a 3 month old fetus , or a 9 month old partail birth aborted baby because that wouldn't have counted ,thats not life
Show me one significant person or organisation that says a fetus isn't life.
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the pro abortion people dont concider it life they cant because then it would be murder. thier argument is its not able to live alone if we take it out so it dont count, or the women has rights but the woman in the womb dont?
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Quote from: BUTCHA on March 27, 2004, 01:48:20 PM
the pro abortion people dont concider it life they cant because then it would be murder.
Wrong - a tree is alive, but cutting it down isn't murder.
thier argument is its not able to live alone if we take it out so it dont count, or the women has rights but the woman in the womb dont?
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Their argument isn't that it isn't alive, but that it isn't fully human with all the rights that being human entails. Big difference.
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An unborn child is human. it is not a plant nor a puppy it is a live human. It is not dead. We are not born perfect nor do we grown into human perfection. We as humans are never complete our bodies change contiunesly. At what stage of life is it a right of one human to kill another? Scripture says simply dont kill.
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Quote from: Reba on March 27, 2004, 07:33:20 PM
An unborn child is human. it is not a plant nor a puppy it is a live human. It is not dead. We are not born perfect nor do we grown into human perfection. We as humans are never complete our bodies change contiunesly. At what stage of life is it a right of one human to kill another? Scripture says simply dont kill.
so true, right on Reba
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Quote from: Reba on March 27, 2004, 07:33:20 PM
An unborn child is human. it is not a plant nor a puppy it is a live human.
Say's who? That's your opinion; it's also my opinion, but it isn't self evident that a 4 cell embryo is fully human.
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At what stage of life is it a right of one human to kill another? Scripture says simply dont kill.
Of course there is a cut off - there always is - or do you treat (human) eggs and sperm the way you treat an adult human?
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Scripturaly speaking 'seed' seems to be very importiant.
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Scripturaly speaking 'seed' seems to be very importiant.
Perhaps, but would you regard castration or having one's ovaries removed as murder?
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March 28, 2004, 09:44:23 AM »
Gone over the edge huh?
Baby killers and those who support them in any way are murders murders of the helpless. You and those like you do not deserve the time of day. Your words support abortion you are a murder.
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