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Quote from: cris on August 01, 2005, 08:52:33 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought the definition of a parted garment meant ............pants.
"parted garment"?? Which verse is this??
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on August 01, 2005, 09:21:57 PM
Quote from: cris on August 01, 2005, 08:52:33 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought the definition of a parted garment meant ............pants.
"parted garment"?? Which verse is this??
I'm curious about this also, I've never seen that.
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I have studied this subject extensively and I use the KJV. I have never come across this before.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on August 01, 2005, 09:21:57 PM
Quote from: cris on August 01, 2005, 08:52:33 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought the definition of a parted garment meant ............pants.
"parted garment"?? Which verse is this??
I'm having trouble with my computer. I just tried my son's dial up and it seems to be better but I don't know for how long.
In answer to your question about where the verse is about parted garments my answer is I don't know. I repeated what someone said about women's clothing KJV. I tried searching for it but nothing comes up. The jist of the post was, "well, do you still abide by not wearing "parted garments"" as was a biblical mandate to women. It was something like that and I think it was about 4 or 5 weeks ago. It's on CU somewhere. Maybe that person quoted from the original 1611 KJV. I'll keep looking. My first thought when I read that was, huh, there were no such things as "pants" back then. However, a parted garment today would be a pair of pants, wouldn't it? I think it might be on the KJV thread somewhere.
Or, could it have been a deleted post?
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I went to CU's search and cannot find it. It's here! I remember reading it because those words "parted garment" stuck in my mind. Oh, this is driving me crazy. Umm, now I'm wondering if there wasn't a link I clicked onto. I don't think so but I can't find it on here. I know what I'll do. I'm going to start a new topic. Maybe someone can come to our (my) rescue.
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The only verse I know of is this one:
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
And just to be fair, I took it from KJV, even though I prefer NIV.
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The KJV uses breeches in reference to a garment that was a wrap around their lower half. It also uses garment quite extensively. The 1611 KJV has fewer occurences of the word parted than does the KJV. It never mentions "parted garment".
The only time parted and garment appears in the same verse is in reference to Jesus garments being parted by the soldiers while he was on the cross.
I just found the post you are referring to:
http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?board=22;action=display;threadid=6809;start=msg101729#msg101729
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Quote from: Sammi on August 01, 2005, 10:35:59 PM
The only verse I know of is this one:
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
And just to be fair, I took it from KJV, even though I prefer NIV.
Sammi,
Which verse was that in the KJV? I'm willing to bet this IS the verse. Bettcha it's worded different in the original 1611 KJV or Darby's or Coverdale's bible.
I even checked the net and couldn't come up with it. I just came up with the verse about parting Jesus' garment at the crucifixion.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on August 01, 2005, 10:46:22 PM
The KJV uses breeches in reference to a garment that was a wrap around their lower half. It also uses garment quite extensively. The 1611 KJV has fewer occurences of the word parted than does the KJV. It never mentions "parted garment".
The only time parted and garment appears in the same verse is in reference to Jesus garments being parted by the soldiers while he was on the cross.
I just found the post you are referring to:
http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?board=22;action=display;threadid=6809;start=msg101729#msg101729
OK, when I came back I didn't scroll down to see this post. I just saw the one under the new topic and immediately clicked on it. See what excitement can do to ya!
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It was Deuteronomy 22:5.
Also I read that thread, but it didn't give a Bible passage reference.
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Quote from: Sammi on August 01, 2005, 11:13:50 PM
It was Deuteronomy 22:5.
Thank you Sammi. Now, at least a part of this puzzle is solved. We'll get the rest of the pieces in place, eventually. Then maybe your original question can get answered.
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August 01, 2005, 11:29:33 PM »
Quote from: cris on August 01, 2005, 10:50:21 PM
Quote from: Sammi on August 01, 2005, 10:35:59 PM
The only verse I know of is this one:
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
And just to be fair, I took it from KJV, even though I prefer NIV.
Sammi,
Which verse was that in the KJV? I'm willing to bet this IS the verse. Bettcha it's worded different in the original 1611 KJV or Darby's or Coverdale's bible.
I even checked the net and couldn't come up with it. I just came up with the verse about parting Jesus' garment at the crucifixion.
That is Deu 22:5. The following is taken from the 1611.
Deu 22:5 The woman shall not weare that which pertaineth vnto a man, neither shall a man put on a womans garment: for all that doe so, are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
I have six versions of the KJV. None of them use "parted garment" in any verses.
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I guess we're going to have to wait until Pilgrim logs on again and ask him directly where he got that verse.
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So my next question would be this. Would you take that to mean that the Church I was attending was twisting Gods word to fit their "doctrine"? That no woman was allowed to own or wear pants?
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Quote from: Sammi on August 01, 2005, 11:41:35 PM
So my next question would be this. Would you take that to mean that the Church I was attending was twisting Gods word to fit their "doctrine"? That no woman was allowed to own or wear pants?
I'm not sure I can say your chruch is twisting scripture. They believe this is what the scripture means. I don't think Amish women wear pants and I think they are Godly people. Notice, I said "think" because I don't know any Amish personally. I'm sure there are other denominations that believe women should wear dresses and not pants.
I guess one really needs to pray about something like this. If you're not convicted that women shouldn't wear pants, maybe you need to change churches. I don't really know what the answer is. I just know the bible says we live in the world but we're not supposed to be part of the world. Whether this verse includes women wearing pants, I can't answer. We live in a culture where pants wearing by women is commonplace. No one even discusses it. Whether it's right or wrong, I'm not sure.
Anyone else have an opinion about this?
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