Rational For Iraq War

[Bronzesnake]

Rationale For War
By Monte Kuligowski (10/21/04)

If you had just been rescued from a deserted island where you spent the last 15 years isolated from the outside world, you might conclude President Bush had no legitimate rationale for the Iraq War. Seeing the president tied to the stretching rack with Democrats and liberal news reporters working together to crank out an admission that the Iraq War was a mistake, you might conclude that perhaps it was.

Without having any reference point to draw from, you would think John Kerry and friends had always been against the war. You would conclude George Bush must have been the only man on the planet who believed Saddam Hussein was a threat to the United States. You would assume that Bush launched a war without congressional approval, promising he would either find WMD or apologize to the country while resigning in disgrace.

You wouldn’t know Saddam Hussein had been defeated by the United States and her allies in the Gulf War of 1991. You wouldn’t know Hussein signed United Nations Resolution 687, agreeing to allow thorough and ongoing inspections to make certain Iraq had no illegal weapons as a term of surrender. You wouldn’t know Saddam consistently and continuously refused to allow full inspection and monitoring, and thumbed his nose at the resolutions that followed. You wouldn’t know President Clinton tried to bomb Saddam into submission in 1998 with Operation Desert Fox. You wouldn’t know Clinton later wanted to remove Saddam from power, but was distracted with other pressing matters.

You wouldn’t know about 9/11. You wouldn’t know that although Sen. Kerry voted against the Gulf War (which had full U.N. support), he voted for the Iraq War (of which he says we rushed into alone). You wouldn’t know Mr. Kerry relied upon the same intelligence as the administration. You wouldn’t know that the words of Sen. Kerry before the war can be swapped with the words of President Bush without any discrepancies. You wouldn’t know that on Sept. 6, 2002 Kerry said:

“If Saddam Hussein is unwilling to bend to the international community’s already existing order, then he will have invited enforcement, even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act.”

You wouldn’t know the U.N. Security Council did indeed fail to act (over a period of 12 years). The inverse being that Saddam failed to comply.

You wouldn’t know that as war clouds were gathering Saddam bought extra time under U.N. Resolution 1441, which gave him over a year to get any illegal weaponry across the Syrian border. Although the Duelfer report confirms that Iraq had developed no new WMD programs, the report also acknowledges and refuses to rule out the possible exodus of any then-existing illegal weapons.

You wouldn’t know that not one member of the Kerry campaign presently appalled over the absence of WMD in Iraq is on the record prior to the war saying that Saddam had no such weapons.

You wouldn’t know Congress authorized the president to use military force against Iraq with the “Iraq War Resolution” by a vote of 296-133 in the House and 77-23 in the Senate, with the yes votes of Senators Kerry and Edwards. “The president is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.”

As further stated in the War Resolution, Sen. Kerry and the other lawmakers felt justified to authorize the use of force because, “The United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism,” and “Iraq’s ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction [are] in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other [Resolutions].”

Sen. Kerry also believed, as evinced by his vote, that, “members of al Qaida . . . are known to be in Iraq; Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens.”

On the day President Bush signed the bipartisan war resolution into law on Oct. 16, 2002, he clearly summed up the country’s rationale for war: Saddam Hussein “had a history of mass murder, of striking other nations without warning, of intense hatred for America and of contempt for the demands of the civilized world.” Per his history of compensating families of Palestinian suicide bombers, the president knew Hussein was promoting terrorism. President Bush also believed that Saddam had biological and chemical weaponry and was actively seeking nuclear weapons. So did the rest of the nation; including Sen. Kerry.

Although no nuclear weapons were found, the Duelfer report confirms that the oil-for-food scandal was part of Saddam’s plan to bypass sanctions/inspections and obtain the same.

Having just returned from your island, maybe you could make sense of the Kerry campaign and old media attempting to force Bush into saying the war was a mistake. But considering that these partisan conspirators know of the above “minor details,” their hypocrisy is simply inexcusable.

Bronzesnake

[sincereheart]

Facts and Figures
Education
3300 Iraqi schools renovated, or soon to be completed, since the overthrow of Saddam
   
9 Million New math and science textbooks printed and distributed with pro-Saddam propaganda extracted
 
85%  Primary and secondary schools that have re-opened since the overthrow of Saddam
 
159,000  Student desks distributed to Iraqi schools
 
81,735 Teaching kits distributed to Iraqi primary school teachers
 
Human Rights
71% Proportion of Iraqis in a February 2004 survey that said they expected their lives to be even better in a year
 
76,000 New jobs created by the Iraqi National Employment Program
 
600 New judges presently working in Iraqi Courts of Law
 
170 Newspapers currently published in Iraq
 
33% Percentage of Iraqis that receive worldwide information via satellite
 
70 Mosques refurbished by coalition forces
 
Healthcare
$1 Billion Current budget for the Iraqi Ministry of Health; 25 times greater than the $16 million annual budget under Saddam's reign
 
25% Increase in immunization rates among Iraqi children
 
75 Iraqi medical facilities refurbished by the Coalition Provisional Authority
 
700,000 Pregnant Iraqi women received a tetanus toxoid vaccination to improve their pre-natal healthcare
 
Infrastructure
500,000 Average increase in the daily number of oil barrels produced
 
16 Average number of hours of electricity for Iraqi citizens; a 40 percent increase from levels under Saddam
 
20 Million Iraqis of the country's 27 million citizens receive clean water due to new water and sanitation projects
 
1,005,580 Iraqi telephone subscribers; a 20 percent increase from under Saddam
 
Government and Politics
67 Iraqi cities with fully functioning municipalities only four months after the beginning of the war
 
85% Percentage of small Iraqi towns that had fully functioning municipalities only four months after the beginning of the war
 
81 Iraqi women serve on neighborhood and district councils around Baghdad
 
6 Iraqi women appointed as Cabinet-level ministers in the newly-formed Iraqi Interim Government
 
http://www.untoldiraq.org/page.cfm?id=7

[Brother Love]

A lot of Good info, thanks

[Tim Vaughan]

It would seem that sincereheart thinks that refurbishing Mosques and giving American money to foreigners is a valid justification for going to war.

[Pastor Roger]

It would seem that sincereheart thinks that refurbishing Mosques and giving American money to foreigners is a valid justification for going to war.

Is that all you got out of that?

It is not American money that is doing it. It is Iraq oil that is paying for it. The U. S. just took that money out of the hands of a ruthless tyrant and putt it into the hands of its people.


The point was in how the Iraqee people are benefiting from this.

[Tim Vaughan]

Is that all you got out of that?

The question was of justifying this war, so yes.

It is not American money that is doing it. It is Iraq oil that is paying for it. The U. S. just took that money out of the hands of a ruthless tyrant and putt it into the hands of its people.

Well, that was the theory going in, but is hasn't worked out that way, and you are the only one I've spoken to that hasn't realised it.

The point was in how the Iraqee people are benefiting from this.

The point had nothing to do with justifying an invasion, did it.

[sincereheart]

It would seem that sincereheart thinks that refurbishing Mosques and giving American money to foreigners is a valid justification for going to war.

ROFL! Definitely a male!  
It would seem that reading a woman's mind is not your strong suit!  

[Pastor Roger]

Well, that was the theory going in, but is hasn't worked out that way, and you are the only one I've spoken to that hasn't realised it.

You apparently haven't spoken to anyone that knows what is going on then. American money is being used there in the aspects of our troops. It is not being used to improve the lives of the Iraq people (the rebuilding of mosques, hospitals, schools, etc.) Anyone that thinks that have not looked at any facts.

The point had nothing to do with justifying an invasion, did it.

Improving the lives of the Iraqee people by removing them from the hands of an oppresive leader was in fact one of the reasons for the invasion that was given by the Bush administration before the war even started.

[Kalthzar]

Why isn't he invading other places then?

or will he?

[Pastor Roger]

Why isn't he invading other places then?

or will he?

That is a possibilty, if it is a plan I am sure that it won't be any time soon. Gotta take care of this one first and build up our troops.

[Kalthzar]

Where will the money for all of it come from -  i mean can you afford it, I beleive someone said that the american economey was already struggling...

[Pastor Roger]

The American economy is not as bad as some would make it out to be and it is getting stronger everyday.

As for the rational of the Iraq War.... as I said it was only one of the reasons. There were others.

[Kalthzar]

the only reason i can think of/remember that i was actually told about (I live in the UK see...)

i mean the problem over hear was Tony Blair promised us WMD and we got none (oh for a laugh...go to google type Weapons of mass destruction and press i'm feeling lucky, this is actually VERY old, so sorry if you know it already, (i think you can do french military victories as well))


So thats what got us over hear, sure we got rid of an evil dictator, but they exist in other places....


oh and i just checked Blackeyepeas said it was:

Is this socialism? Who's going to buy equipment, open new businesses, and create new jobs? Who's going to help the already struggling businesses around the country? Who pays taxes when these businesses go under and bankrupt?

in relation to Kerry saying he would cut back the tax cuts on the rich americans and invest it on education and healthcare

actually just go to the Whatever Means Necessary thread in the Prophecy section

[2nd Timothy]

Saddam is/was a weapon of mass distruction!    And thats exactly what we got.

Grace and Peace!

[Kalthzar]

Saddam was a person, he is capable of what all people are capable of.