Woman Preachers

[Jabez]

How do you feel about this?
1 corinthians 14:34

[Tibby]

Oh boy...

[Heidi]

Where in the bible does it say that women should be preachers?

[Royo]

I agree wth Tibby.  "Oh boy".
But might as well add this scripture also. [1 Tim. 2.12].

[Saved_4ever]

This has been hashed several times.  Here is the last one

[ebia]

Where in the bible does it say that women should be preachers?

Where in the bible does it say that women should be school teachers, or bank managers, or church flower ladies?

[sincereheart]

What are 'church flower ladies'??

[ebia]

What are 'church flower ladies'??

Probably an English phenomenon.  Old ladies with blue rinses in cardegans who arrange the flowers etc in church.

[Symphony]

The bible verses referred to ebia, are about exercising authority over men.

In the Episcopal gay minister controversy this summer, one lady on network news said, "You didn't say anything when we ordained women ministers."(in 1976).

Statistically, women approve more of homosexuals than men do.  This is understandable.  Women can be friends much easier with them, at ease, etc.  

It's perfectly understandable then why a church increasingly peopled with women ministers, would then be very open to gay ministers.  

That's how the evil one gets his foot in the door.

It's not b/c women are any more evil than men.  It's just becuase through their peculiar sympathies, Satan can work his evil magic also.  

And so you see it happening.

And so Paul in Jabez's original scripture there above, and in 1Tim2:11,12, is fairly strict about it--obviously, now, for good reason, as we see being played out before our very eyes.

But to answer the question...  To me, it's merely a practical question.  Are there no men around, then the women will have to do it.

But if there are men around....then, ahem....

   



 

[ebia]

The bible verses referred to ebia, are about exercising authority over men.

Symphony misses the point again.  

[Heidi]

Ebia, I've noticed that you disagree with just about everybody. We're not out to discount your beliefs, we're all here to explore what God's telling us to come to a better understanding of them. A black and white approach to beliefs, excludes, rather than includes.

I sense a real resistance to submitting to God's word in you. If the bible says homosexuality is a sin then it's a sin. Instead of declaring that it isn't, (Which is playing God), it would be far more useful to try to understand what God means when He says that. Just because we don't always understand God's meaning doesn't make Him wrong. It just means we are ignorant at the time.

It's the same in the case of women. Our generation doesn't understand what God means about women's roles because our generation is a reaction to many generations of oppression against women. But someday, as we feel less oppressed, we might better understand God's meaning. The bible has timeless principles, and they will be better understood during some eras more than others.

[Jabez]

thank you for the responses,sorry to ask a qeustion that has been asked. i should have searched first.

[ebia]

I sense a real resistance to submitting to God's word in you. If the bible says homosexuality is a sin then it's a sin.

Lets leave this one on one side, rather than reduce all threads to the same discussion.

Instead of declaring that it isn't, (Which is playing God), it would be far more useful to try to understand what God means when He says that. Just because we don't always understand God's meaning doesn't make Him wrong. It just means we are ignorant at the time.

I'm not sure what this is aimed at.

It's the same in the case of women. Our generation doesn't understand what God means about women's roles because our generation is a reaction to many generations of oppression against women. But someday, as we feel less oppressed, we might better understand God's meaning. The bible has timeless principles, and they will be better understood during some eras more than others.

You're assuming that your understanding of God's will is the correct one.

[Heidi]

Ebia,are you sure enough of your opinions to attack the opinions of others? I haven't heard one intelligent discernment from you on this forum. You seem to see everything as a debate. You say you are a Christian but your lack of understanding of the bible betrays that statement. Discernment comes from the Holy Spirit. Since you have so much trouble discerning what God means, I doubt very much that you have the Holy Spirit inside you. I'm sure you'll say, "that's just your opinion." Yup, it very much is.  

[ebia]

Ebia,are you sure enough of your opinions to attack the opinions of others? I haven't heard one intelligent discernment from you on this forum.

Translation, "I haven't ever heard you agree with me".

You seem to see everything as a debate. You say you are a Christian but your lack of understanding of the bible betrays that statement.

Translation, "I haven't ever heard you agree with me".

Discernment comes from the Holy Spirit. Since you have so much trouble discerning what God means, I doubt very much that you have the Holy Spirit inside you.

Translation, "I haven't ever heard you agree with me, therefore you are ungodly because God agrees with me".