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16  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Babylon the Great is Falling on: August 10, 2004, 01:10:06 AM
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That explains why we have full support from all the nations we reign over to rebuild Iraq!    Wink

Grace and Peace!

We?

I am not of the Governing body and as of late I am reserved in shouting of my public pride. "In God we Trust" is now yelled from the Outside!

If you are not in the governing body I guess you haven't realized there is no "we" now...

Answer me this:

At what point in your doctrine does scripture turn from yesterday and reveal tomorrow?

Today?

Please use Chapter and verse.

Peace.
17  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 10, 2004, 12:51:14 AM
 Cool If only your examples would hold up.

I believe the example you gave from Genesis was nice but it in no way even claims to connect to the portion of Revelation in question. At best it would indeed be as you declared and at worst a stumbling block.

And as far as a man child that shall be caught up unto God you have forgotten of the one to be sent by the Lord from the Father. And the Lord will not rule all nations at His coming because they shall be destroyed and but one kingdom shall remain.

In wisdom and from experience I will not build nor add onto this further because first you would have to explain all the portions of your theory that fail using Israel as the woman.

The woman that rode in on the beast is indeed the USA riding in on the UN when it was even young with 7 - 10 - 7 instead of 7 - 10 - 10 in it's youth. In your example Jerusalem would become the great city and would be the whore of Babylon. (blowout)

You are going to find that the more you try to prove your theory the more you will actually disprove it.

Revelation 12 is indeed the USA.

And tell me...

This Mystery Babylon you keep mentioning, are you talking about the parable - Mystery, Babylon, The Mother etc...?

If so it is even more simple than you think, but I am not sure you are talking about that parable.

There is no portion of scripture too hot to handle and you will find that after hammering out a portion it suddenly fits perfectly to another, and another, and another in todays events and times. History will find you seeking what has been. Prophecy is for today.

Meanwhile, unto each his own and may we answer only unto Him.

(I am still smiling from you claimimg Jerusalem rules the earth, I live in the present and only DC is doing whatever they please even as we speak)

Ain't Truth grande?

Peace.
18  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Why Study Bible Prophecy? on: August 09, 2004, 08:47:00 PM
 Cool Probably not my friend.

It is scheduled to go public this fall.

It goes hand in hand with www.TheLambsBook.com and it is visited by only those who have found it by accident while it, and it's parts have been under construction.

Poke around. You will find an eye opening item now and then.

The only thing most do not like is to find someone trying to teach something that is actually easy to disprove but they have been repeating and teaching it so long they can not admit it is false. How can they explain being wrong to those who listened?

That is the death of Truth.

In your service.

John.
19  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Babylon the Great is Falling on: August 09, 2004, 08:39:15 PM
 Cool You can't run from the facts!

There is but one city which rules the kings of the earth this day. And that is Washington DC. It is found nestled within a great nation and at the present has turned on it's public body with great abominations. That nation is symbolized by a woman standing in water, and the whore dressed in scarlet, that is said to be her mother, is sitting, just to help you see the two.

About one more large piece of information showing this administration has deceived the people and you will see Babylon fall friends. The people will rise and gut the way it is. Of course we are a little ahead of ourselves on the timeline, but "shortly" to say the least.

I am sure it is hard with just a piece here and there, but the Revelation of Jesus Christ is alive today.

Lamps full?

Trim?

John.

20  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 09, 2004, 08:29:08 PM
 Cool Scripture on America?

Revelation 12 is a perfect outline and the old teaching of it describing Jerusalem falls short on several levels. At the time of the writing it is said to appear in heaven not yet even upon the earth and Jerusalem was long since seen. The easiest and best way to see the woman is to realize scripture describes a woman a dragon and a bear...

There are but three super powers in recent times, can you name them?

In reading pay close attention to key elements that no scholar can ignor...

The Moon is one symbol for Christ and His works ( it is established as the moon forever. The lessor light to rule over darkness and we are the darkness ) but all things are beneath His feet.

There are two women and one is in the midst of the other and described as a great city which rules the kings of the earth. There is but one and they just told the rest of the world to stand down to prove it.

I also believe that one "must" know history to be lead to the Truth. As long as along the way they move foward and do not get stuck in the past. My point is that no matter what you "think" scripture is describing living events that fall into place for the finder and the events are found in the last days. Ever one of them.

A lot more on the Woman of many waters

The USA is not only found but is central in the events of the last days.

Come into today gang, and see what is written after you close the books. It is all around you!

If you just know where to look.

John.

21  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Why Study Bible Prophecy? on: August 09, 2004, 12:50:38 PM
 Cool Yes we are checking out your forum.

Very big!
22  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 09, 2004, 12:47:32 PM
 Cool Wheew that is a lot!

The problem is that it is easily destroyed by the Truth.

From the name of Blasphemy, to the simple fact that all of these kingdoms you have taken the time to interject into a dead beast, have no power today. There is but one Super Power and one Organization that will soon rival it.

I suggest you try again and see what World Order does include the many powers you have described and also learn when scripture has actually described different things.

The seven kings are in and of themselves separate and serve to mark a section of time early in the development of the World order. But they are also hinted about with the tale of a bear with three ribs in it's teeth. You know five have fallen, and the eighth is of the seven. Five from eight equals three? Bear? Check your history a little closer to now.

The test is to see if we can.

Three examples of the one that was, and was not, and yet is.

1.
The UN was a world power.
The UN was told to stand down by the US.
The UN will soon be very rich by loans through the Monetary fund and World Bank and with the slightest bobble in International currency will rule currency exchange and value. The US made a critical mistake when they shipped their industrial base out of the country. It made then vulnerable.

2.
After five of the leaders had come and gone, we can find a time frame as of late when Russia had a ruler who got sick. He was the sixth and he got very ill. He was replaced by another temporarily until he was well and he then returned to power. Russia then failed and even banks closed starting a wave of troubles they have not yet recovered from completely.

3. The computer was the largest and most actively growing industry prior to 2000. The millenium scare almost killed it. Afterwards it has grown less but has become firmly rooted in American as well as the worlds culture and means.

All three of these are found within the portion of the tale you have spent all those words working around. And when scanned they provide an actual time frame you can see that contains past, present, and future. Now we are looking at Truth and seeing what time it is. And if truth we can watch and see if the next portion revealed comes to be in order and on time. This is Revelation and the will of the Lord who gave it.

Now.

Why would a clip from one scene be tossed into a clip from another scene?

In order to hide what the Lord intends to reveal in the last days we are told of the method.

John is told to take the book, and eat it up, and what is sweet upon his lips is to be bitter in the belly. He has taken the tale and mixed it up, and what is sweet (revealing and easy to understand) has been made bitter (hard to understand and scarey). This also carries through to the entire bible. Just lighter than Revelation.

I have also noticed slightly altered wording in the bible references used. Please do not attempt to decipher scripture via slang or altered text. Hebrew to start, a little Greek and such if you can read the original scriptures, and The Original King James Version of scripture must be used if you are to have any chance.

You see the UN is the 7-10-10 and the link provided above can fill in the blanks well. This is a prophecy for our day, and not some long drawn out sterile vision of days past. Shame on all who profess to know for stature and in the endeavor mislead others with false doctrine.

I can reveal the portion of scripture described in few words.

The UN will soon come to great power and after a colapse in the marketplace, will use the computer and the world wide web to regulate wire and none paper currency exchange globally. The US will be faced with singularity or compliance. The mark is a card and secret numbers, or a web site to visit, or a web-site of your own to try and sell through. Of course each is important as you don't need a web-site to physically go to a shop but you would then have to have the same item and secret code no matter which method you chose. It is further resolved that the name of the beast in control is the sixth letter of the Hebrew Alphabet and what better langauge to use than your native tongue when the Lord gave us the WWW. We can further deduce that the UN is the name of blasphemy as UNanything blasphemes that thing into it's complete opposite.

Rich - UNRich, Worthy - UnWorthy, - etc...

I have revealed more of current and factual revelations, sent in advance by the Lord, than 2000 years of study in this few moments. And here is the best part. You can look, see, and watch as the picture I reveal grows into reality and comes to be. Scripture came long ago for a time in the future called the last days. It is for, about, and contains those days with a sprinkle of yesterday for good measure. (In one generation these saying shall be proved, I come that you may know the truth, unto all things there is a season)

Why would anyone prepare a tale of yesterday only, to explain a prophecy for the end times?

What do you do when it doesn't fit?

Pieces of the Lord's Puzzle...

Seven heads, ten horns, ten crowns.
The key of David.
Three sixes.
Woman clothed with the sun.
Woman clothed in scarlet.
The Mark.
Seven Kings.
Daniel's four kings and another.
Michael.
Another Book.
The Altar.
Man Child.
Mystery Babylon.
Little horn.
He goat.
Four Horsemen.
Seven seals.
And the list goes on and on...

We don't need no yesterday, and trust me, this is what has come and gone. We need today, and look, you can see it all right now. That is, and was, and will be the Lord's mission when He laid out the Truth that is to be revealed at the end. And with scripture rightly divided you can see a clear picture of the day His are told to prepare for. Not a fuzzy picture of the past.
 
In your service.

Come see me, and we can walk the path which is Truth.
23  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Why Study Bible Prophecy? on: August 08, 2004, 07:24:27 PM
 Cool Flashlight?

TCForums
24  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Babylon the Great is Falling on: August 08, 2004, 07:19:54 PM
 Cool Amen!

In 2000 we were all over the local DC news standing outside the hall of justioce with our signs.

Babylon is Fallen!

Woman of many waters topic at TCForums
25  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 08, 2004, 07:01:05 PM
 Cool Much to learn in little time.

Revelation 13 discussion at TCForums

Seven Heads of Daniel - I must check that one...

In your service.
26  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:TheGreatBattle on: July 06, 2003, 12:14:57 AM
I started laying it out but it took too long...

Please notice the repeats and same statements when reading scripture. It is the biggest clue to time frames as you can always overlay them even if before and after move fast or slowly by. They are the markers.

In Revelation 20: around the activity you describe satan is into the pit over and over as he actually enters only twice. Once repeated as when he is bound for a thousand years, and once when he is cast in forever.

Though they are sometimes large and sometimes small slices of the same time it gets harder to match events exactly because it gets harder to know when events start and stop.

But with practice you can do it exactly.

The time frame of the scripture we are discussing ranges from:


Earliest -  T minus 1821 days

Latest -  T minus 1004 years 339 days


Earliest and Latest being the beginning of their respective event cycles, and not the end, and it is all based upon this day.

The question is:

Who will see and say if it is Truth?

Is the above indeed Truth?

Is it Not?

We could honour opinions eternal and only know at the end of these things.

But the over lay is close to those who rise from the pit as clues are best when reversed. If being cast into the pit is bad, rising from, is, got to be good! You know what I am sayin?

One fact remains:

While light, and yet a yoke, He can make it easy, He can make it hard!

One can only Hope to be right with Him and behold.

Peace my Friend.

TC


27  Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ? on: June 28, 2003, 10:55:58 AM
Wheeeeeew!

What is Up in the Cyber-Body?

I must first admit that after intent study as I began this set of threadly's, I did slack off and quick read to the end. I saw a few things I just wanted to mention if you do not mind, of course...

Good stuff popping up here and there, good points, questions, etc. Passion and kindness that compared to the world today can bring a tear to the trained eye because it is rarer than you think.

I will further clear the air with a quick admission: I am a Bible Nerd! Long Time, been there done that...and I have a couple of things I just wanted to share from an oldie with hours of Flight time, You know what I am say-in?

You gain levels as you study that can not be faked nor forgotten. You see things besides just main keywords like law, and salvation, and Believe, and well you get the idea.

Example:
You find that knowing Him really means knowing Him. You hear Him speak within scripture and you notice after a while you can tell when He is talking to one group and later just by the tone you know unto whom He is speaking then also.

Anger in "Think not that I come to save, But to DESTROY"  and you see the Tare being scolded and warned to Fear The Lord!

Love in "I come not to Destroy, but to save that which was Lost!"

You know who is being spoken to but some how never log it as being very important. After learning this well, and feeling what He must have felt while speaking, you quickly learn how to know He is talking to more than one group throughout the tale, and when.

Holy - Rare
Righteous - Few
Unjust - Many
Filthy - Most

As a matter of Fact this knowledge of Him is so important He has enclosed four examples every time (almost) He had the chance within scripture just to make this stick out as much as possible.

Look for clusters of four from the following examples within scripture, see for your self If what I am trying to share with you is a fact or fiction:

Grass
Trees
Suns
Moons
Locust
Scorpion
creepy thing
Fowls of the Air
Canker Worm
Spider
Conie
Vine
Branches
Fig Tree
Olive Tree
Wheat
Tare


The list is very long so I will not attempt to post it all, and the above are not linked but instead in random order, so you will be looking for "any" four, not just any order of the ones listed.


Conclusion:

Every One here seems to be in Love with Jesus Christ.

They desire to Know Him even while He is away, and with little to go on they press on doing the best they can with what they have got.

As I read your posts here I see the tale differently because of the levels I have running at all times. I see as He turns His head speaking unto one, and then the other. I feel in His Heart a great depression as He must sound angry because it is so hard for Him to even sound Mean. I myself must confess in finding New examples and subjects within scripture that I have never before had time to explore, and I tear them up! (Get into them so deep they bust...), but my interest is deeper than who He is speaking to at any given moment, I use these levels to better position myself into Hearing Exactly what He says.


Scripture is still fresh with me, as if new each time.

But I know Him. I follow Him in the Word, Yes, but also at every turn of the Head, and every change of the Tone. This is all I have found missing that is a must Have unto all who desire to know Him. To know unto whom is being spoken too is Key when rightly dividing the Word. We all use this every day as you might be sweet all day and then have to yell at some jerk who leaves a dog out That's too big and actually a danger to others. Should you think Me always sweet and find me foney because you saw me yell once, will you think I mean all dogs or just that one,  that is the sway of something besides the Rock. Knowing me would cause a close one to know exactly how I felt and why I was saying what I was saying. Every time He speaks He may be talking to a different group. If one group takes all things spoken as unto them only, you would be looking at exactly what is wrong with the union of Churches today.

What Union you say?

Exactly!

All of these studies are good in the Word, but let's remember we are supposed to be getting to know Him, not each other.

Please get to know Him, so that you can better believe Him.  

It is a pleasure to serve.

John.
28  Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ? on: June 25, 2003, 10:42:50 PM
From The Mouths of Babes?
29  Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ? on: June 24, 2003, 10:42:46 PM
If Christ were to yell in a Forest, and no thing were to Hear it, Christ hath not yelled at all.

"I am" is easy, it is even a good nickname, but to hear is only lessor than to believe.

What did He say?
30  Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ? on: June 22, 2003, 02:21:54 PM



Here is wisdom:

To know there is a God is not enough, we must know what He has said. "Every Word that proceedeth..."

He is The Word. Hear Him as you gaze into His face, leap over the wonder knowing it will be clear once you know enough.

Great is the day you have put it down for a moment and temptation has become distasteful.

Washed in the Blood, and that's a Fact.

I Love the Facts of Jesus.

Peace.

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