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Title: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 19, 2004, 12:56:49 PM

Israel and current events.


I have been watching news events for sometime now as it relates to end time events.   All recent world events, and especially things going on in the Middle East appear to be building to a climax.   Me and Tom (BEP) have been talking about this a little bit, and I wanted to start a series of posts concerning some of what the Bible has to say about what’s going on in our time, and why the world is obsessed with peace in the nation of Israel.    So primarily I will be dealing with Israel.   Later on we might move to Daniel and Revelation.


Before I get into this, I want to say that I realize this is a difficult subject for some on the board.   There are a few who have strong views concerning Israel, end times, and eschatology in general.   I encourage a healthy discussion, but would prefer if we can avoid debate.   My purpose for posting this is to discuss current events in relation to prophecy, and allow Gods word to demonstrate it's accuracy as the Lord Himself has declared.    The study is rather lengthy so I will have to break it up into parts….bear with me.


Bible Prophecy

Most people in our day and age view Bible prophecy as some sort or fortune telling machine of gloom and doom for mans future and how the world will end.      This is not what Bible prophecy is all about.    Prophecy is the unfolding of Gods plan for mankind laid out in His word.   Unlike man, God is looking at the whole picture, and sees from beginning to end what is going to take place.   This is an important aspect of Gods word, because it declares the truth and accuracy of scripture by foretelling mankind what He is going to do, and then bringing it to pass.    Only the One True God of heaven can do this.   Look at what God himself says about this.

 Isa 14:24  The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:


Isa 48:3  I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.


Here, God swears on His Holy Name that if He says it, He will do it, and it WILL happen!  He is going to do it!!!  What a proclamation from the Lord.    So prophecy is very important from Gods perspective.  He uses it over and over in scripture to show mankind that He alone is God, by declaring things that He will do ahead of time, then bringing them to pass just as He has said.    His Glory, Power, and Wonder are declared in these things.



ISRAEL

To start off, the main focus of my own study was to look into the restoration of Israel as a nation.   So I’m not going to spend much time on Gods judgment of Israel, but rather His promise to return them to the land.    

There are numerous prophecies in the Bible.   The most prophecied events in scripture concern the first and second coming of Messiah.   All the prophecies concerning Jesus coming into the world as our saviour were 100% fulfilled by Christ in the New Testiment.   We still await fulfillment of the second coming of Christ, which I believe is very close to happening now.

The second most prophesied event in scripture concerns the restoration of the nation of Israel.   Now for those of you already squirming in your chairs and frowning at the screen, before you ignore the rest and skip down to the “Reply Button” and set me straight, hear me out.    Gods word is pretty explicit about this as you will see.    To understand what is going on with Israel, we need to back up to where it all originates from.  


In Genesis, God told Abram that He would make a great nation out of him and his children.  


Gen 12:1  Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Gen 12:2  And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


God tells Abram that He is going to bless and make a great nation out of him, and bless all the families of the earth through this nation.   The greatest blessing mankind ever received came from the nation of Israel.   That came to pass by God sending His Son, Jesus Christ through the Nation of Israel and dying for all peoples of the earth.   God truly has blessed the world through Israel, the decendants of Abram.  Gods salvation came through them.

To prove this to Abram, God entered into a covenant to assure Abram that He would do what He had promised.   This covenant however is not like the covenant God made with Moses.  In the covenant with Moses, both parties entered into it, and conditions or terms of being faithful were required to maintain it.    The covenant with Abram was an unconditional covenant, and one that God alone was bound by as scripture will show.

Gen 15:7  And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Gen 15:8  And he (Abram) said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
Gen 15:9  And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
Gen 15:10  And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.


In the Old Testament, when two parties entered into a binding agreement, a blood ceremony like this was preformed.   Certain clean animals were parted or halfed, and both parties would hold hands and walk between the parted animals and the covenant was complete and binding for both parties.   You can imagine Abrams excitement as he carfully prepared the animals and waited for God to show up.   Well, guess what?   A deep sleep came over Abram before God arrived.

Gen 15:12  And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.


While Abram slept…note verse 17 very carefully!

Gen 15:17  And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
Gen 15:18  In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:



Did you see it?   God Himself, represented by the smoking furnace and burning lamp passed through the pieces while Abram slept.   God bound Himself to the promise He had made to Abram!   All Abram had to do was receive the benefit of it.    The parallel between this blood covenant and the blood covenant God made through Christ on the cross is not by chance.   Christ alone fulfilled Gods righteousness and justice when He alone died on the cross for man.   All man has to do is receive the benefit of that promise by faith.   Just like Abram!   Neat huh?

OK so getting back to the promise to Abram.   The focus of this promise is Abraham and his decendants Isaac, Jacob = Israel, and it is an everlasting covenant that God himself is bound to.

Psa 105:6  O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.
Psa 105:7  He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth.
Psa 105:8  He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
Psa 105:9  Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
Psa 105:10  And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
Psa 105:11  Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:



A couple of points here.  
a.  Abraham, and decendants – children of Jacob – nation of Israel - called chosen.
b.  His covenant is everlasting with Israel, and remembered.
c.  Specifically names the land as inheritance.

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Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 19, 2004, 12:58:02 PM
Now as we know, Israel did not remain in the land after they came into it.   God later passed judgment on Israel because of sin and scattered them through out the world.    This was also prophecied in Eze chapter 6.

This largely happened in 70 AD when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the temple.   Since then, the land has changed hands many many times through out history.    But God was not finished with the nation of Israel.   His blood covenant could not be broken Or His good name was at risk.   After 20 centuries of being dispersed through out the world, against all probability, Israel once again became a Nation as of 1948.   For anyone doubting this event was prophesied in scripture just look at the following prophetic passages concerning the restoration of Israel.  (Note for those in contention: we are still waiting for the spiritual restoration portions of these which will take place eventually, most likely during the tribulation period, as well as the entire portion of the land of Canaan to be held.)

 
Jer 30:2  Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
Jer 30:3  For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.


Eze 20:41  I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.
Eze 20:42  And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers.


(Ezekiel 34:26-27,30 NIV)
 '"I will bless them and the places surrounding my hill. I will send down showers in season; there will be showers of blessing. The trees of the field will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crops; the people will be secure in their land. They will know that I am the LORD, when I break the bars of their yoke and rescue them from the hands of those who enslaved them....Then they will know that I, the LORD their God, am with them and that they, the house of Israel, are my people," declares the Sovereign LORD.'


Eze 34:13  And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.



Eze 36:24  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Eze 36:25  Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Eze 36:28  And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

(from verse 36 we see where Israel as a nation will eventually be born again)


Eze 39:27  When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28  Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.


Some may be asking at this point…Why is all this so important?  Again, because Gods name is at stake.   Remember, He passed through the halfed pieces binding Himself to His own promise.   His everlasting blood promise to Abram must be kept.   God cannot lie or break a promise.   Listen to what God says about why He will restore them to the land…



Eze 36:22  Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
Eze 36:23  And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.




God says it's for His names sake!!!     Most of Ezekiel 36 and 37 deals with this in great detail.   I would encourage and careful read of these chapters for anyone having doubts about this.   Also of interest in history, is how the Jewish people were looked down on.   Countries of the world know the Jews were called Gods chosen people, yet they were dispised among those foreign lands and profaned, just as God points out in verse 23.   Gods name was being tarnished.   The Lord also declares that the heathen as well as the Jews are going to know that He is the Lord of Host.   We are still waiting for this, but that time is rapidly approaching.


It's important to note at this point, that out of roughly 13,000,000 Jews in the world today, only 5,000,000 of them currently reside in Israel.   Many are still in other nations.    Also unknown by a lot of people; Jews currently in Israel for the most part are atheist.   There are a small number that hold to Jewish faith, such as the Orthodox group, but by and large most Jews are not too concerned with faith.   This brings me to my next point.   Out of all the prophetic verses we just read, God declares again and again that after they return to the land they will KNOW HE IS THEIR GOD.   If the first part of these passages have been fulfilled, then it seems to me we must be getting close the second part of these prophetic verses, when Israel as a nation is going to know their God and be spiritually restored.   Seeing Israel in the land again is the most amazing prophtic thing to happen since the crucifixion of Christ, and should raise eyebrows of those looking for the soon return of the Lord to this earth to reign over it, in that Land as KING!  

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Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 19, 2004, 12:59:41 PM
CURRENT  WORLD EVENTS


The importance of the nation of Israel appearing in 1948 cannot be overstated in regards to the end time.   Israel being restored to the promise land is a marker for just how close we are to the end of the age and the return of Christ.


Mat 24:32  Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


I believe these verses are speaking specifically about Israel becoming a nation again.   That generation is alive today, and getting old I might add.

In current news, we see a lot of talk about the creation of a Palestinian state.   Land for Peace is usually the term used.   The world views a two state solution as key to world peace and the fight against terrorism.   The problem is, the land belongs to God who promised it to Abraham’s decendants.   Not the Palestinians.   Look at what God says about the land in Leviticus.

Lev 25:23  The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.

Once again, the nation of Israel fails to heed Gods word and acknowledge Him as their Lord, and is attempting with the worlds help to trade Gods land for peace!  (which we know will never happen with out Christ).   If Israel gave up everything, but one square foot of land in Israel, that would not be enough for the Palestinians.   They have one objective and that is to completely destroy Israel.  I believe this is an effort by Satan himself to prevent God from fulfilling His promise (as if that could be done).   Israel WILL eventually take possesion of ALL the land of Canaan.  But right now the world is not concerned with Gods promises or His good name.

The world in it's own attempt to bring about peace apart from God, is willing to trade God’s land to Israel’s sworn enemy.   How that for irony.   The world is on a collision course with God which will be the worst times ever known to man.   Also prophecied in scripture.

Mat 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Without getting directly into the popular end time prophecy of Daniel and Revelation, we can start to see just by looking at the nation of Israel just how close we are to the end.    Satan still thinks he can win, and theres no question that he wishes to prevent God from keeping His word to restore the land of Israel to it's rightful owners  -  The decendants of Abraham, Gods chosen people.   The entire tribulation period is all about Satan deceiving Israel into false peace, and then attempting to destroy them with the wars that ensue.   If you have any doubt that we are rapidly approaching that time, just sit down and watch CNN, FOX, or MSNBC for about 30 mins.   Israel and mid-east peace dominates the news these days.   The worlds lust for “peace and security” apart from God, will instead bring His wrath!

1Th 5:3  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.


The time is growing short!   Prophecy which was written thousands of years ago are coming to light in our
time.    We can see this coming about just from looking at Israel in prophecy.   There is quite a bit more
going on in the world that relates to other things in scripture.    I will try to touch on these shortly in other
posts.


Promise of Salvation

If you have been reading this, and do not know the Lord as your personal saviour, God has a promise just for you.   His Son paid your sin debt in full.   He fulfilled Gods promise of salvation for all men…for YOU!   But you must accept the benefit of His Grace and receive this promise.  

Rom 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

None of us can measure up to Gods standard.    But He made a provision for us to be justified in
His sight.    

Rom 3:24  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25  Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


Christ shed his own blood just for you friend.  You can be made just in the eyes of the Lord by faith in what Christ did for you on the Cross.  His covenant is free for all who receive it.   Paul tells us…


Rom 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


It's that simple.  Confess the Lord with your mouth and believe that Christ died and rose from the dead, and you will be saved!   This is Gods promise to you.   The time is growing shorter by the day.   Won’t you ask him into your heart today?

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 20, 2004, 05:02:31 AM
2nd Timothy:
You have gone to great leangths to show that you do not understand that we are not living in the "end times" of Biblical prophesy.

We may very well be living in the "last days" of this dispensation of grace, "which was kept secret since the world began."

There are, no doubt, events happening today that are leading up to the fulfillment of the Biblical prophesies.

When one studies Acts 3:15-20, one can see that the "last days" (Tribulation) had already started at Pentecost. Those "last days" are the 70th week of Daniels prophesy in chapter 9. Joel speaks of them in 2:28-32. In fact, Peter, in Acts 2, quotes Joel almost word for word.

Peter knew exactly where he was in the timetable of prophesy because he was speaking "as the Spirit gave them utterance" (vs 4), and Jesus, before returning to heaven, had opened the understanding of the OT Scirptures to His disciples (Luke 24:45).

The Tribulation that started in Acts 2 was interrupted when God set the nation of Israel aside after the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7, and ushered in this unprophesied "dispensation of grace"; with the raising up of Saul/Paul (Acts 9). The Tribulation will again resume after ths "dispensation of grace" has been raptured. That will be when "the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" (Rms11:25).

In order to fully understand exactly were we are in God's timetable today, we must understand "the Mystery" that was revealed to the Apostle Paul, Not the prophetic Scriptures of the OT.

In his book "Things That Differ" Pastor Stam list 14 basic things between PROPHECY (P) AND THE MYSTERY (M).

1. (P) Concerns a kingdom; a political organization (Dan. 2:44, Matt. 6:10).

(M) Concerns a body; a living organism (I Cor. 12:12,27, Eph. 4:12-16).

2. (P) The kingdom to be established on earth (Jer. 23:5, Matt. 6:10).

(M) The body given a position in heaven (Eph. 1:3, 2:5-6, Col 3:1-3).

3. (P) Christ to be its King (Jer. 23:5, Isa.9:6,7).

(M) Christ its living Head (Eph. 1:19-23,Col. 1:18).

4. (P) The kingdom prophesied "since the world began" (Luke 1:68-70, Acts3:21).

(M) The body chosen in Christ before the world began, but "kept secret sincethe world began" (Rom. 16:25, Eph.1:4-11, 3:5-9).

5. (P) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations (Isa. 60:10-12, 61:6).

(M) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God (Rom. 10:12, 11:32,Eph. 2:16,17).

6. (P) The Gentiles to be blessed through Israel’s instrumentality (Gen.22:17,18, Zech. 8:13).

(M) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinacy (Acts 13:44-46,Rom. 11:28-32).

7. (P) The Gentiles to be blessed through Israel’s rise (Isa. 60:1-3, Zech. 8:22,23).

(M) The Gentiles blessed throughIsrael’s fall (Acts 28:27,28, Rom.11:11, 12, 15).

8. (P) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such (Isa. 2:4, Ezek. 37:21, 22).

(M) The mystery concerns individuals (Rom. 10:12, 13, II Cor. 5:14-17).

9. (P) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth (Isa.2:3, 4, 11:1-9, etc.).

(M)The mystery concerns "all spiritual blessings in the heavenlies" (Eph.1:3, Col. 3:1-3).

10. (P) Prophecy concerns Christ’s coming to the earth (Isa. 59:20, Zech. 14:4).

(M)The mystery explains Christ’s present absence from the earth (Eph. 1:20-23, Col. 3:1-3).

11. (P) In prophecy salvation by grace through faith alone is not contemplated.

(M) Salvation by faith alone lies at the very heart of the mystery (Rom. 3:21-26, 4:5, Eph.2:8,9).

12, (P)The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve (Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26).

(M) The proclamation of the mystery committed particularly to Paul (Eph.3:1-3, 8-9, Col. 1:24-27).

13 (P) The prophetic program revealed through many of God’s servants (Luke 1:70, II Pet. 1:21).

(M) The mystery revealed through one man; Paul (Gal. 1:1, 11, 12, 2:2, 7, 9,Eph. 3:2,3).

14. (P) Old testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made known through them (Dan. 12:8-10, 1 Peter 1:10-12).

(M) Paul both understood and longed that others might understand the mystery revealed through him. (Eph.1:15-23, 3:14-21, Col. 1:9 -10, 2:1-3).

I highly recommend that you read this book. It can be read on line and is shown at the end of Brother Love's postings.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Much and Love The Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 20, 2004, 08:41:44 AM
I'm not sure you understood completely what I was saying, but thats OK.

If you do believe that the 70th week started in Acts 3 you will probably want to start another thread and discuss that there.  I have no intention of debating all the various end-time doctrines here, but rather allowing scripture to demonstrate we are fast approaching the coming of the Lord and His judgment on a Christ rejecting world.   Israel becoming a nation again, is but one indication it is near.

Thanks for your kind words however.

Maranatha!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 20, 2004, 09:15:47 AM
2nd Timothy posted:
Quote
I'm not sure you understood completely what I was saying, but thats OK.

BigD responds:
It appeared to me that you were saying that we are nearing the "end time" of Bible Prophesy, and that by Israel becoming a nation in 1948 was an indication of that. Also you use of -

"Mat 24:32  Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

I believe these verses are speaking specifically about Israel becoming a nation again.  That generation is alive today, and getting old I might add." -

indicates to me that is exactly what you are saying.

If I have mis-read what you said, then please correct me.

2nd Timothy continues:
Quote
If you do believe that the 70th week started in Acts 3 you will probably want to start another thread and discuss that there.  I have no intention of debating all the various end-time doctrines here, but rather allowing scripture to demonstrate we are fast approaching the coming of the Lord and His judgment on a Christ rejecting world.   Israel becoming a nation again, is but one indication it is near.

BigD responds:
My intention was not to start a debate, but to show you that we are not in the "end time" of Bible prophesy, and that Israel of today is not the God restored Israel of Bible prophesy.

The Israel of today was brought into existance by the workings of man through the UN.  When God restores Israel it will include all the land mentioned in Genesis 15:18.

Also, I tried to point out to you that the "last days" that Peter spoke of in Acts 2 was the beginning of the Tribulation. If you believe that I am in error on that account; then I would appreciate it if you would correct me.

If you would like to make this a debate and start a new thread, then I would be more then willing to discuss this matter there.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!





Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 20, 2004, 09:51:52 AM
Moving right along  ;D


To continue this study, I wanted to look into the history of the Esau and Jacob, and how that translates to current world times.   I have been doing quite a bit of reading in Ezekiel, and chapter 35 says some things that raise my eyebrows a bit.

In the OT, Isaac and Rebekah had two sons - twins!   Esau and Jacob.

Gen 25:22  And the sons struggled together within her. And she said, If this is right, why am I this way? And she went to ask Jehovah.
Gen 25:23  And Jehovah said to her, Two nations are in your womb; even two peoples shall break from your body. And one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
Gen 25:24  And her days were fulfilled to bear. And behold! Twins were in her womb.
Gen 25:25  And the first came out, all of him red like a hairy robe; and they called his name Esau.
Gen 25:26  And afterward his brother came out, and his hand was holding to the heel of Esau; and his name was called Jacob. And Isaac was a son of sixty years when she bore them.


Jacob went on to have twelve sons, which became the 12 tribes of Israel.  Esau's came to settle in Mount Seir

Gen 36:8  And Esau dwelt on Mount Seir. Esau is Edom.

and his people became known as the Edomites.

Looking at a few maps we can see where the 12 tribes wound up and where Edom is.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/antsy/maptribesofisrael.gif)

Edom is in the lower portion of this map.   Now today, Jordon is largely the remnant of the Edomites and mostly Islamic.  

Current map.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/antsy/Israel-map.gif)


So now what?

We know from scripture that a Jewish temple will be rebuilt at some point on the temple mount, and the Antichrist himself will sit in this temple and declare himself to be God.

2Th 2:4  the one opposing and exalting himself over everything being called God, or object of worship, so as for him "to sit in the temple of God" as God, setting forth himself, that he is God. (also see Dan. 11:36; Eze. 28:2 )

This is all future and has not happened yet.

We also know that the 3rd most holy Isamic place resides in that very spot.  The Dome Of the Rock.   Something has to happen here in order for the Jews to be able to re-build this temple.    Many have speculated that the peace deal the Antichrist will confirm with the Israel will somehow involve a re-building of the temple.   Others think an earthquake or some un-foreseen event will knock down the Dome of the Rock and Israel will seize the mountain.   I don't know how it will happen, but we know that it will happen.  

 I did come across some interesting scripture which I am certainly open for discussion on concerning a possible occurance.   It sounds possible that this may be speaking specifically about the current setting.

Eze 35:1  Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 35:2  Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it,

Remember, this is where Esau came to settle earlier....
 
Eze 35:3  And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir, I am against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee most desolate.
Eze 35:4  I will lay thy cities waste, and thou shalt be desolate, and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.

Once again, Edom is largely Jordon in our time.   Looking at it from a spiritual perspective, Jordon is an Islamic nation, including the palestinians.   These people sit in Jordon and the palestinians the west bank.   We also know that they are responsible for many terrorist acts against the Jews.   Read the next few verses...

Eze 35:5  Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:

(the part about calamity and time that their iniquity had an end....I am unable to explain....perhaps when the Jews were scattered and what happend to them by Hitler?)

Eze 35:6  Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.

Sounding very much like terrorists and events today.

Eze 35:7  Thus will I make mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it him that passeth out and him that returneth.


Interesting language is it not?   So what am I getting at here.   Well, again from a spiritual perspective, the Dome of the Rock is in the hands of these Islamic people (Edomites).  God is going to cut off him that passeth out and him that returneth.   Hmmmm.

There is a verse in Obadiah which is extremely interesting in this regard...

Oba 1:21  And saviours shall come up on mount Zion (the temple mount) to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.


I have heard it said, that some messianic Jews believe this phrase in Obadiah could be interpreted "to Judge the Dome of the Rock".    

All I can say to that is WOW!   Is it possible we are about to see the Jewish temple guards rush up onto the mountain and seize the Dome of the Rock in order to re-build their temple?   I'm not sure but these passages do make me wonder about this...a lot!

Anyone have any thoughts about this?

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 20, 2004, 09:56:59 AM
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If you would like to make this a debate and start a new thread, then I would be more then willing to discuss this matter there.

I have already stated that I am not going to debate it.  By all means begin your own thread and have at it, if thats your desire.    :)    

Grace and Peace!



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: The_8th_Person on November 24, 2004, 12:04:52 AM
2T thank you for this post and taking the time to study all of this. I have read some and have saved it to read later.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 24, 2004, 02:28:38 AM
Dome of the Rock, walls falling down. I remember reading about this earlier this year.

23 February 2004
The Dome of the Rock is an, Islamic museum in the Western Wall area which had collapsed and about the large bulge in the southern wall of the Temple Mount and the large bulge and crack on the eastern wall of the Temple Mount. We also wrote about the prophetic promises of God that, in the endtimes, He would remove the foreign pagan mosques and the foreigners from His holy mountain, the Temple Mount, through an earthquake. Zechariah prophesied the following endtime Word of God.

Zechariah 14:3-7 "Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand on that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in its midst toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall be moved toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And you shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal; yes, you shall flee, like you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah; and the Lord my God shall come, and all the holy ones with you. And it shall come to pass on that day, that there shall not be bright light nor thick darkness; But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night; but it shall come to pass, that at evening time there shall be light."

This endtime event has already started. It began with the earthquake of 11 February, the collapse of walls, the bulges, and the crack. It is now focused on the roof of the Dome of the Rock which stands on the holy site of God. We also wrote that seismologists had stated that a major earthquake will occur in the near future in Israel, the center of which will be on the Temple Mount and Jerusalem. The result will be the collapse of all the buildings there. All of this leads to the fulfillment of God's endtime promises and plans for His holy mountain. It is a clear message from the God of Israel that the Third Temple is soon to be rebuilt. All these events will be brought about by God. He is determined to bring His prophetic endtime Word to pass, as He is carrying out His redemptional prophetic endtime events with His people. We are a blessed generation to live and experience the fulfillment of these endtime events. The eyes of everyone should be lifted to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the main focus of all the endtime events. Time is short.

The endtime vessel of God, The Temple Mount and Land of Israel,  which is dedicated to the rebuilding of the Temple in our lifetime, will continue its holy campaign even more intensively to bring its holy cause to pass in the life of our generation as God decided.

Go in peace with God.
Bob
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Ha! I found it.
http://www.templemountfaithful.org/News/20040204.htm
Temple Mount Wall Collapses
   After centuries with no structural problems, suddenly walls in the southern area of the Temple Mount are collapsing. Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazal, who heads a committee for preventing the destruction of antiquities on the Temple Mount, said that the collapsed wall looks terrible and might cause a series of collapses. View of the collapsed wall on the Temple Mount

It is not the first time that something critical has happened recently on the walls of the Temple Mount. On Tisha B’Av 2001 a huge bulge formed on the southern wall of the Temple Mount. The bulge measured 25 meters [82 feet] high and tens of meters wide running westward from the south-eastern corner (the Pinnacle of the Temple) to an area below the El Aqsa mosque, which is built on the southern wall of the Temple Mount. The ancient Herodian wall bulged as much as 90 centimeters [3 feet]. The archaeologists and engineers who checked the bulge said that there is a great danger that the wall will completely collapse and, together with it, the El Aqsa mosque which stands on it. This could happen when the Moslems are praying in the mosque. They also stated that even if the bulge is repaired it will not hold for long and the wall will collapse in any case. However, Jordanian engineers were finally brought in to repair the southern wall.

It was so special that the bulge happened immediately after the Temple Mount Faithful carried the cornerstone for the Third Temple to the area in front of the southern wall of the Temple Mount. There is no doubt that this was the Hand of G-d. He will no longer permit the foreign pagan Arab Islamic existence on the Temple Mount, their terrible desecration of His holy hill, and their efforts to destroy the holy remains of the First and Second Temples. They are trying in this way convert the holy hill of the G-d and people of Israel to an Islamic site and deny the existence of the Temples on the Temple Mount. For this reason they also changed the so-called Solomon’s Stables and the Hulda hall and entrance from the Second Temple complex into Islamic mosques.

We should mention that not long before the appearance of the bulge on the southern wall, a crack appeared in the eastern wall not far from the original, real Eastern Gate which is also called the Shushan Gate or Golden Gate. In their 2002 diggings from the inner side of the eastern wall, G-d surprised them by revealing the Shushan Gate. The Arabs who were digging there understood the significance of the appearance of this G-dly gate through which they knew so well that Mashiach ben David would enter. As a result they immediately covered it up again.

In recent years water suddenly appeared in the historical area of the Temple. Water again appeared in 2002 on one of the stones of the Western Wall. The Moslems on the Temple Mount who could not stop the water redirected it under the ground. Through this water the prophecy of Ezekiel 47 concerning the water which would come out from the Temple Mount and flow to the Dead Sea area as a sign of redemption in the end-times, started to become a reality:

"And he brought me back to the door of the house; and, behold, waters flowed from under the threshold of the house eastward; for the front of the house faced to the east, and water run out from beneath the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar. ... And by the stream, upon its bank, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for food, whose leaf shall not wither, nor shall its fruit fail; it shall bring forth fresh fruit every month, because the waters for them flow from the sanctuary; and their fruit shall be for food, and their leaves for healing." (Ezekiel 47:1,12)

Since the Arab Islamic foreign occupation of the land of Israel, Jerusalem, and the Temple Mount — after building the mosque and Dome of the Rock, it was a Jewish tradition that in the time of the redemption of Israel when the people of Israel again dwell in the land and the State of Israel is re-established, the G-d of Israel will cause a strong earthquake which will completely remove these foreign houses of pagan worship from the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount will be ready for the rebuilding for the building of the Third Temple. A few days ago, scientists stated that a very strong earthquake will occur in the coming future and the epicenter of the earthquake will be on the Temple Mount and the Old City. The prophet Zechariah prophesied about an earthquake which would take place in the end-times:

"And his feet shall stand on that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in its midst toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall be moved toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And you shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal; yes, you shall flee, like you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah; and the L-rd my G-d shall come, and all the holy ones with you. And it shall come to pass on that day, that there shall not be bright light nor thick darkness; But it shall be one day which shall be known to the L-rd, not day, nor night; but it shall come to pass, that at evening time there shall be light." (Zechariah 14:4-7)

Zechariah also prophesied about the water that would go out from Jerusalem as another sign of redemption and then G-d would be the One G-d of all the universe and all the nations who will accept Him and then strangers will no longer be on the Temple Mount:

"And it shall be on that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the eastern sea, and half of them toward the western sea; in summer and in winter shall it be. And the L-rd shall be king over all the earth; on that day the L-rd shall be one, and his name one. ... and on that day there shall not be Canaanite any more in the house of the L-rd of hosts." (Zechariah 14:8,9,21b)

The collapse of walls on the Temple Mount, and all the other signs that were mentioned above, are very clear signs that the foreign pagan presence on the Temple Mount is about to be removed. G-d has started to prepare His holy hill for Israel to purify it and to build the Temple. The Hand of G-d continues to appear again and again in Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, as well as over all the land of Israel, calling the Israeli Government to do what He expects of them to do: to purify the Temple Mount and immediately rebuild the house of G-d. This will open the Eastern Gate for the coming of Mashiach ben David.

Click the link above to finish reading.

Praise God for he is worthy.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 24, 2004, 09:21:33 AM
Good post DW.   Many have thought it will be an earthquake that brings it down, and it very well could be.  I am currious to see how it all happens.   My one question about that is, if an earthquake does bring it down, something in addition has to take place, as the Muslims will still view that site (even if a pile of rubble  ;) ) as theirs.   I could see the Israeli's taking advantage of such a thing and re-claiming the land by force.  That would certainly cause world view to sharpen against Israel.   Will be interesting to watch how God brings this about.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 24, 2004, 09:33:36 AM
The_8th_Person,

Thanks for your words.   I enjoy looking into these things in scripture.   I certainly hope this will spur study in the word.  I too am still looking at much of this and praying about it.   Gods own word certainly has the final say so.   These posts are just to encourage study.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 24, 2004, 09:53:49 AM
Good post DW.   Many have thought it will be an earthquake that brings it down, and it very well could be.  I am currious to see how it all happens.   My one question about that is, if an earthquake does bring it down, something in addition has to take place, as the Muslims will still view that site (even if a pile of rubble  ;) ) as theirs.   I could see the Israeli's taking advantage of such a thing and re-claiming the land by force.  That would certainly cause world view to sharpen against Israel.   Will be interesting to watch how God brings this about.

Grace and Peace!
Something in the back of my mind. Is saying that the anti-christ has a hand in the Jews rebuilding the temple. I don't know if I read it in the Bible, or a book. Hmmmmmmm, I think I need to research that.

In the arms of Jesus.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 24, 2004, 12:25:09 PM
Red Heifer Born in Israel!

In these days of difficulty for the Land of Israel, there is encouraging news as well... It can now be revealed that less than one month ago, a red heifer was born in Israel. After the heifer's owner contacted the Temple Institute, on Friday, April 5th, 2002, Rabbi Menachem Makover and Rabbi Chaim Richman traveled to the farm where the heifer is located, to inspect and validate her status.


Red HeiferThe rabbis found her to be kosher and were satisfied that this heifer could indeed be a candidate to be used in the process of purification described in the book of Numbers, chapter 19. This is a prerequisite for the rebuilding of the Holy Temple.

Tradition records that a red heifer in our generation is a herald of the Messianic era. It is certainly an important development towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple. Our sages taught that Israel’s redemption can be compared to the dawn. "In the beginning, it progresses very slowly...but as it continues, it grows brighter and brighter."

The birth of a red heifer in Israel is being hailed by religious Jews as a divine sign that work can soon begin on building the Third Temple in Jerusalem.

A team of rabbinical experts confirmed that the animal, born on April 15, 1997 on a religious kibbutz near the north Israeli port of Haifa, meets the correct Biblical criteria for a genuine holy cow. According to the Book of Numbers (XIX: 2-7), the animal is needed for an ancient Jewish purification ritual.
NOVEMBER, 1998 : The latest news to hand as at November, 1998 is that the Red Heifer calf born on April 15, 1997 has been declared unclean.

A spot of white was found on the animal and accordingly the Rabbis have declared it unfit for the sanctification of the Priesthood.

"Speak unto the children of Israel that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke," says the fourth book of the Old Testament, also part of Jewish holy scripture, the Torah.

A Red HeiferThe heifer will be slaughtered and burned, and its ashes made into a liquid paste and used in a ceremony which religious Jews believe they must undergo before they can enter the old Temple site in Jerusalem to start building a new structure.

Since Herod's Temple was destroyed by the Roman emperor Titus in AD 70, no flawless red heifer has been born within the biblical land of Israel, according to rabbinical teaching.

The birth of the animal, to a black-and-white mother and a dun-coloured bull, is being hailed as a "miracle" by activists who want to rebuild the Third Temple and prepare the way for the Jewish messiah's entry to Jerusalem.

The faithful will need to wait until the heifer is at least three before it can be used in a ritual sacrifice. That would enable religious Jews to start the new millennium (a Christian event, but still regarded as portentous) in a state of purity.

News of the red heifer's appearance, however, will not be well received by Muslims. The site of the old Jewish temples in the Holy City is now occupied by one of Islam's holiest shrines, the Dome of the Rock. Jewish extremists want to destroy the Dome and the adjoining Al-Aqsa mosque to make way for a new temple. In 1985 a group of Jewish terrorists were jailed in Israel for planning to destroy the Dome with high explosives.

Western Wall in Jerusalem But Jewish activists say they regard it as their divine mission to build a new Temple. "We have been waiting 2,000 years for a sign from God, and now he has provided us with a red heifer," said Yehudah Etzion, the ringleader of the Eighties' plot to blow up the Dome, who was present at last week's inspection of the red heifer at Kfar Hassidim. "There were a couple of little white hairs which worried us, but the rabbis are satisfied that it is the red heifer referred to in the Bible," said Etzion. (SUNDAY TELEGRAPH)"


http://members.ozemail.com.au/~adamgosp/heifer.htm


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 24, 2004, 12:26:24 PM
Not sure about the rebuilding of the temple....but one verse that seems to jump out at me regarding the current talks of land for peace and the division of Israels land is...

Dan 11:39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

If this verse means what I think it means, any succesful land for peace deal will most likely come from the AC himself, not the Quartets road map for peace...who knows?  Whether or not that deal includes a rebuilding of the temple is not clear in scripture to me, but its no an unreasonable suggestion.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 24, 2004, 03:41:33 PM
11/22/2004 9:08 PM

As attacks rise in France, Jews flock to Israel
By Andrea Stone, USA TODAY
JERUSALEM — Barbara and Moshe Journo left Lyons, France, with their 1-year-old daughter, Lital, four months ago to move into a cramped apartment at the Beit Canada Absorption Center here. They have no jobs, little money and despite intensive Hebrew immersion remain more inclined to answer yes with a oui than a ken.

But like thousands of other French Jews who have moved to Israel in the past four years, they are glad to be here. Back in France, they say, rising anti-Semitic attacks by Muslim immigrants and the anti-Israel bias of the French government and media had made life increasingly uncomfortable for them.

"We want our daughter to grow up in Israel and not France, (where) it's dangerous because of the Arabs," says Barbara, 28. Asked if suicide bombings here by Palestinian terrorists aren't even more dangerous, she shakes her head. "Israel is ours," she says. "We feel here that God helps us."

Last week, Jews from 23 countries were living at the new immigrant complex in southern Jerusalem. But only the French — usually a third of the families who spend six months here adjusting to their new country — cite anti-Semitism as a prime motivator for emigrating, known here as "making Aliyah," or "going up."

"It's there in the air" of France, says Ahuva Volk, the center's cultural coordinator. "They all felt it at one time or another."

Sunday, French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin marked the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Strasbourg from Adolf Hitler's troops with a speech that condemned the increase of anti-Semitic and other hate crimes in France. Last month, 88 tombs in a Jewish cemetery in Brumath, near Strasbourg, were painted with swastikas and "SS" initials.

"The wrong committed here is too deep for the state not to react with extreme severity and firmness toward all those who are nostalgic for racism and anti-Semitism," Rafarrin said.

Anti-Semitic incidents are not confined to France. Thursday, an Orthodox Jew was shot and killed in Antwerp, Belgium.

Increased attacks on Jews

A dwindling number of émigrés from the former Soviet Union and the 4-year-old Palestinian uprising have reduced immigration to Israel. But the number of French Jews making Aliyah is rising.

Since 2001, more than 2,000 French Jews have arrived each year, double the rate of the 1990s and more than from any other single country, says the Jewish Agency, the quasi-governmental agency that oversees immigration and absorption. That's a far larger proportion than from the USA, home to 10 times more Jews. There are about 600,000 Jews in France (about 1% of the population) vs. 6 million in the USA. France has the world's third-largest Jewish community after the USA and Israel.

Although most come here for religious or ideological reasons, the recent influx stems directly from increased attacks against Jewish schools, synagogues and cemeteries, and harassment of Orthodox Jews. Jewish leaders complain that few cases are prosecuted.

The number of violent anti-Semitic attacks in France increased to 193 in 2002 from 32 in 2001, and anti-Semitic attacks accounted for half of all racist attacks in France in 2002, according to a report by France's National Consulting Committee on Human Rights, an independent watchdog group. In 2003, the number of attacks fell to 125, according to the committee.

Some of the perpetrators are Muslims who sympathize with the Palestinian cause. They are among as many as 6 million Arab immigrants from North Africa who make up about 10% of France's population.

Much of the French Jewish community shares those roots. About 70% are one or two generations removed from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. But the increasing Arab population has convinced many "that the game is over for the Jew" in France, says Avi Zana, director of the Jewish Agency's European desk. Volk says nearly every French émigré family arrives with stories of persecution.

"France is an Arab country. That's enough for us to leave," says Moshe Bendrihem, 50, a Morrocan-born Jew who moved from a Paris suburb four years ago to Eli, a West Bank settlement. Bendrihem wears a skullcap, or kippah. He didn't always. "It is impossible to wear a kippah in France," he said, for fear of being singled out for attack.

At a welcoming ceremony for 200 French Jews this summer, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon advised all French Jews to "move immediately" to Israel. The comment enraged French officials.

But there is no doubt that anti-Zionism has morphed into anti-Semitism in many parts of France. Jews complain that French media rarely display the same level of outrage over anti-Jewish violence by French Muslims as Israeli attacks against Palestinians here. The Jewish community was infuriated that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was treated at a French military hospital, where French President Jacques Chirac paid a visit.

"Paris became the capital of Palestine" for two weeks, Zana says. Such events "are one other fact that goes into the decision" to leave France for Israel, he says.

The mutual admiration is apparent in the Palestinian territories, where French flags and portraits of Chirac adorn storefronts. After Arafat died Nov. 11, the French president eulogized the man the United States and Israel blamed for terrorist attacks against Israelis as "a man of courage and conviction."

Gerard Araud, France's ambassador to Israel, says his country "is neither better nor worse than other European countries" when it comes to anti-Semitism. He blames anti-Jewish violence in part on "a transfer from the intifada (uprising) to the suburbs of European cities." Araud says France has increased penalties for hate crimes, added school programs that teach tolerance and worked with Israel to shut down anti-Semitic Web sites.

The law of return

France has had a mixed record in its treatment of Jews. In the early 19th century, Emperor Napoleon emancipated European Jewry, removing economic and social restraints that had confined them to ghettos. In 1936, Leon Blum became France's first Jewish prime minister.

But Blum was later arrested and turned over to the Germans by the French Vichy government, which collaborated with the Nazis during World War II, when tens of thousands of Jews were deported to death camps. "To remember this period is very, very difficult for the Jews," Zana says. They think, "If they (did) it before, it's possible they will do it again."

French anti-Semitism helped spur the creation of Israel. As a journalist in Paris in 1894, Theodor Herzl reported on the trial of Alfred Dreyfus, an army officer falsely accused of treason mainly because he was Jewish. Two years later, the father of Zionism published The Jewish State. It said Jews could only be safe in a country of their own.

French Jews are among many who have taken advantage of Israel's law of return, which guarantees every Jew the right to become an Israeli citizen. French TV stations now share the dial with Russian channels here. French language bookstores have opened in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Now, real estate offices post door signs saying, "On Parle Français."

"Because of the political situation in France, I feel a real increase of interest from the French Jews to come here," says Mikael Azran, owner of Hamishkenote real estate here. He says business has soared in the past two years, with 80% of his French clients buying property as a hedge against worsening conditions at home.

Many French Jews buy small pieds-a-terre they can trade in for bigger homes if they decide to immigrate here later. The buying spree has forced real estate prices to climb in areas favored by the French: Jerusalem, Netanya north of Tel Aviv, the port city of Ashdod and the Red Sea resort of Eilat.

"They buy for security," says Lev Stern, 59, as he browses magazines at Vice-Versa, the French bookstore here. "It's like insurance."

Interest in the Jewish state can be gauged by the number of visitors. Nearly 200,000 French tourists came to Israel in the first nine months of 2004, a 74% jump over the same period last year. "Many want to feel closer to Israel," says Leon Rozenbaum, president of Unifan, a French immigrants association here. "They want to look at what could be a future in Israel."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-11-22-jews-france_x.htm

Normally I don't look to USA Today, because of their liberlism.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 24, 2004, 05:43:42 PM
DreamWeaver,

Brother, I'm reading more and more about persecution of Jews, but the same is true for Christians. There is a growing thought that Christians are ignorant, people to be ignored, even in America. France is not alone in the persecution of Jews. That appears to be almost a global problem, except in America. It should be painfully obvious that a lot of the hate against America is because of our support for Israel. As an individual, my support for Israel will not change. My primary reason is the Holy Bible and Bible prophecy that I know will be fulfilled. I've said this before, and I meant it: If I had to go to war involving Israel, I would be fighting on the side of Israel. It's true that they would need a wheelchair brigade for me to be much use.   :D

So far, it is impossible to ignore Christians in America, and it is also impossible to silence us. However, that doesn't mean the devil will quit trying.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 24, 2004, 10:52:45 PM
For an interesting view of Israel's History and an interactive explainer of the current Road map for peace, I found these to be very interesting...


Interactive Road to Peace explainer (http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/mideast/interactive/mideast.explainer/frameset.exclude.html), Sound and images.

History of Israel (http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/mideast/interactive/timeline/frameset.exclude.html)  Ranging from From 1,000 BC to current.

History and Prophecy buffs alike should really enjoy these.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 25, 2004, 12:05:54 AM
The return of the one pure language, Hebrew.
Zephaniah 3:9  "For then I will return to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent."

Prior to the restoration of Israel in 1948, Hebrew was a dead language. Now Hebrew is spoken throughout Israel.

Apperance of the red heifer, after 2000 years.
Numbers 19:2-7 "This is the statute of the law which the Lord has commanded, saying, "Speak to the sons of Israel that they bring you an unblemished red heifer in which is no defect and on which a yoke has never been placed. "You shall give it to Eleazar the priest, and it shall be brought outside the camp and be slaughtered in his presence. Next Eleazar the priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and sprinkle some of its blood toward the front of the tent of meeting seven times. "Then the heifer shall be burned in his sight; its hide and its flesh and its blood, with its refuse, shall be burned. "The priest shall then wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward come into the camp, but the priest shall be unclean until evening."

Ethiopian Jews return to Israel.
Zephaniah 3:10-11 "From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, My dispersed ones, will bring My offerings. In that day you will feel no shame because of all your deeds by which you have rebelled against Me; For then I will remove from your midst your proud, exulting ones, and you will never again be haughty on My holy mountain."

In 1984, Operation Moses saw the airlift of 15,000 Jews who had already fled to refugee camps in Sudan to escape starvation. In 1991, Operation Solomon flew 20,000 Jews to Israel from Ethiopia itself. A further airlift began in June of 1999, aimed at transporting the last 3,000 members of the Quara Jewish community from northeastern Ethiopia to Israel.

Russian Jews return to Israel.
Jeremiah 23:7-8 "Therefore behold, the days are coming declares the Lord, when they will no longer say, as the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of Egypt, but as the Lord lives, who brought up and led back the descendants of the household of Israel from the north land and from all the countries where I have driven them. Then they will live on their own soil."

In the 1970's and 1980's there was a mass exodus of Russian Jews out of Communist Russia. In 1999 the Associated Press reported a dramatic increase in the number of Jewish immigrants from Russia, bringing the largest number of Russian Jews to Israel since the early 1990's.

Resting in the arms of Jesus.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 26, 2004, 09:33:34 PM
I've been furthering my research on Israel and the promised land.  I wanted to deepen this study with a bit of history and more scripture I have located.

History of the land.

The first commonwealth of Israel,

Joshua to Saul, to David, to Solomon, and down to Zedekiah.   The state of Israel came into being from 1,097 BCE and lasted down to 606 BCE – 490 years.   This period of sojourn marked the first possession of the land.

Nebuchadnezzar – King of Babylon conqured Israel in 606BC and destroyed Jerusalem 19 years later in 587BC.   This era of captivity lasted 70 years, from 606BC – 535BC and marked the first uprooting or scattering of Israel.   1st scattering was not world-wide, but localized – in Babylon!

Persian King Darrius Decreed Jews could return to Jerusalem.   Ezra 7 and Nehemiah 2 record the decree of Artaxerxes referred to in Daniel, that established the timeline for the first coming of messiah – 445BC.   Decree also enabled a remnant of Israel to be reconstituted back to the promised land.  This marked the 2nd possession of the land.


Jesus appeared the first time while Israel was under Roman occupation Daniel 9:25

(Christ was caught up to heaven.)

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.



The great dispora 2nd scattering took place in 70AD.

You will note that this uprooting scattered the Jews world wide, unlike the first which was localized.

Eze 22:15  And I will scatter thee among the heathen, and disperse thee in the countries, and will consume thy filthiness out of thee.

Amo 9:9  For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.


Eze 36:19  And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

Deu 28:64  And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Now comes a long period of land changing hands many times.  From the 7th century through roughly 1917 the land is owned mainly by Islamic people.

THEN.....

UN partitions the land.

In November 29, 1947 UN resolution 181 and later 191 was to partition the land and preserve Jerusalem as a global Holy City.

Joe 3:1  For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2  I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Future still...

Amo 9:15  And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.


Israel is recovered for a second time in May 14 1948!

Isa 11:10  And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign (flag/banner) of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
Isa 11:11  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.   (the world!)

WOW!!!!   I had never even noticed this before.  Powerful and detailed right from the word of God!


As soon as Israel declares itself independent in 1948, 5 Arab nations rejected Israel’s right to existence.  Egypt, Jordon, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq all attacked Israel in an attempt to annihilate them at that time.

Psa 83:4  They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Psa 83:5  For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

All these peoples named in the verses that follow can be traced to the 5 Arab nations mentioned above!  

WOW AGAIN!!!  Israel repelled the attack and remained.    


Zec 12:2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


Rome, UN, Vatican, EU, the entire Arab world, are all burdened with Israel’s existence.  The world is focused on little Israel in order to bring about peace!   The UN stated that Israel is the biggest problem to world peace.   When viewed through glasses of scripture and history, the odds are getting very very slim here that this is all happen stance.    God is not finished with Israel.   The whole world is against Israel, and America who supports her.   Is this any coincidence?   This is what world wide terrorism is all about.  Israel and we who support her right to be a nation.



History – Various happenings in the mid east, or attempts to force peace.

Suez 1956 Arab - Israeli war.
6 day war 1967
Yom Kippur war 1973
Camp David 1978
Lebanese war 1982
Gulf war I 1991
Oslo accord 1993
Arab uprising 2001
Gulf war II 2003
Roadmap to peace 2003 – 2004

Still trying to part the land in order to bring about peace.  Not going to happen till Jesus brings peace, and even that will cause a world war against Christ and His people…AKA Armageddon.




Peace and Security – signs

Luk 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26  Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

The Greek word for Perplexity in this passage is– apora, which = quandary.   How fitting is that.  The world is in a hopeless quandary searching for lasting peace and security, and it's all related to Israel being a little tiny Nation right in the middle of it all.

World concerns?

WMD’s
Atomic Weapons
Terrorism
Peace in Israel

You betcha!

The worlds lust for peace without God will send it headlong into the trap that awaits them.

Dan 8:25  And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.


1Th 5:2  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4  But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.


We have a revived Roman Empire in the EU.  They have even called themselves by this name!  
We have a leader who is overseeing the EU and it's foreign policy.
We have Israel restored as a nation.
We have world leaders who ALL see Israel as key issue to peace and security. Perplexed!

This is just a small list…


Folks, we are headed for home plate.   Scripture outlines these events down to the smallest details.   The fine details are even coming into view now.   Lift up your heads and rejoice, for your redemption draweth neigh!

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 26, 2004, 11:40:04 PM
2nd Timothy & Dreamweaver,

Thanks brothers. All I can say is, "WOW! - awesome!"

I said that I would try to catch up with the prophecy threads, and I will try. My pile of notes and portions of Scripture that I want to study are getting pretty deep.   :D  However, Bible study is one of my favorite things, so pile it on.

The key issues in Bible prophecy always includes Israel either at the top or near the top of the list. We actually live in a time not prophesied by the Old Testament Prophets. It's fascinating to know that we live between Daniel's 69th and 70th week, a time in human history only described in detail by the Apostle Paul.

Some of the things that have confused people for centuries are being fulfilled and WILL BE MOST DEFINITELY fulfilled to the letter of the Holy Bible. Daniel's 70th Week is near. The world has never known such horror, wrath, devastation, and death, and tiny Israel will be the center focus for the entire world.

Brothers, there isn't much left to be fulfilled until the 70th Week begins.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 27, 2004, 04:57:22 AM
BEP posted
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2nd Timothy & Dreamweaver,

Thanks brothers. All I can say is, "WOW! - awesome!"

I said that I would try to catch up with the prophecy threads, and I will try. My pile of notes and portions of Scripture that I want to study are getting pretty deep.   :D  However, Bible study is one of my favorite things, so pile it on.

The key issues in Bible prophecy always includes Israel either at the top or near the top of the list. We actually live in a time not prophesied by the Old Testament Prophets. It's fascinating to know that we live between Daniel's 69th and 70th week, a time in human history only described in detail by the Apostle Paul.

Some of the things that have confused people for centuries are being fulfilled and WILL BE MOST DEFINITELY fulfilled to the letter of the Holy Bible. Daniel's 70th Week is near. The world has never known such horror, wrath, devastation, and death, and tiny Israel will be the center focus for the entire world.

Brothers, there isn't much left to be fulfilled until the 70th Week begins.

BigD responds:
My Bible teaches me that the 70th week of Daniel (the Tribulation) had already started in Acts 2. In verses 15-20 Peter is telling his listeners that the Tribulation has already started. He is quoting Joel 2:28-32 almost word for word. Joel is speaking of the 70th week of Daniel 9.

Peter knew exactly where he was in the timetable of prophesy of Prophesy because he and the other disciples were speaking "as the Spirit gave the utterance" (Acts 2:4). Further, before Jesus returned to heaven, He had opened the understanding of the OT Scriptures to all His disciples (Luke 24:45).

The Tribulation, which is to last 7 years, started at Pentecost, but was interrupted after God set the nation of Israel aside after the stoning of Stephen. It will resume when this dispensation of grace is ended by the rapture of the Chruch, the Body of Christ.

While Jesus was ministering upon the earth, the dispensation of the Law was in effect, and was in effect until God set the nation of Israel aside. The setting aside of Israel interrupted the dispensation of the Law. God then raised up Saul/Paul to usher in this dispensation of grace, which cannot be found in prophesy. This dispensation of grace is a "(parenthetical)" period with in the dispensation of the Law.

When this dispensation comes to a close, the dispensation of the Law and the Tribulation will resume. The "so called" great commission will again be able to be carried out.

There are many authors and raido/TV Bible "end time" preachers  to like to make the events of today fit Bible prophesy. They make for very interesting reading and listening, but there is no "end time prophesy" being fulfilled today in this dispensation of grace. However, there are many events taking place today that are leading up to the fulfillment of end time prophesies.

The only event that must take place prior to the Tribulation being resumed is the rapture of the Church. When Paul speaks of the "last days," he is speaking of the last days of the dispensation of grace.

When Paul mentions "the trump of God" in 1Thess4:16, he cannot referring to the 7th trump in the book of the Revelation, because, the book of the Revelation hadn't been written yet.

From my studies of the Bible I too believe that this dispensation of grace is in it's last days, and the rapture is near. However, it could still go on for several more years, or it could end before you even read what I have just written, or evern sooner.

From reading the "end time series," I do find them very interesting to read, but trying to read the happenings of today into them, is pure speculation.

They remind me a great deal of Jack Van Impe. I do have a booklet that he wrote in the 1970's. In it he is explaining how the events of that day (oil crisis and all/monetary infalation and high interests rates) were the fulfillment of prophesy and were ushering in the "last days." Well, those events have concluded and we are still here. I still listen to him occasionally, and find that is is still trying to fit the happenings of today into endtime prophesy.

I find the passage in Luke 13:6-9 very interesting as to the setting aside of Israel and the events leading up to it.

Luke 13:6 He (Jesus) spake also this parable; A certain man (God) had a fig tree (Isreal) planted in his vineyard (earthly creation); and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he (God) unto the dresser of his vineyard (Jesus), Behold, these three years (the earthly ministry of Jesus) I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he (Jesus) answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: (The "fertilizer here, I do believe, is the power of the HOly Spirit that was given at Pentecost. The "year" is the time from Pentecost until the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7; at which time God set the nation of Israel aside.
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. (Israel, as a nation, did not bear fruit and was set aside [Romans 11:7-12].)

With the setting aside of Israel, the "end time timetable" has been stopped, and won't resume until after the rapture of the Chruch, the Body of Christ.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 27, 2004, 11:59:02 AM
BigD,

Brother, we agree on the biggest and most important things of His Word, and we can pleasantly agree to disagree on what remains. I'm not suggesting that Bible Prophecy isn't big and important, rather that disagreement on some prophecy details is not a Salvation issue. Another example of this is the timing of the RAPTURE. I have really enjoyed studying several stances on the RAPTURE, and the same is true for end time Bible Prophecy.

Brother, I will study the issue you just raised. I find it fascinating and love to study the Bible, so please post some more. An exchange of varying thoughts and opinions will enhance the Bible study. I certainly think that we can do that without turning it into a debate. I would simply say thanks for adding to the portions of Scripture that I want to study.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 27, 2004, 01:33:23 PM
BEP:
THANK YOU for your interesting reply.

Isn't is GREAT that our salvation is based upon our relationship with God and not on every point of doctrine.

For us believers, if still alive, the blessed hope of the rapture will be our rescue from the Tribulation.

Many today teach and preach that when Jesus came on earth, that He was offering His Kingdom to Israel and that When Peter offered the Kingdom in Acts 3:19, 20, that it was the 2nd offer of the kingdom. For this view, I cannot find any Scriptural support. I have even heard some say that it was the third offer of the Kingdom.

I can find that the Kingdom was promised to Israel way back in the Old Testament, and even Paul says in Romans 15:8 that Jesus came to fulfill the promises made to the fathers. Also, we know that it was the time for the Kingdom to be established because the King had arrived and was born in Bethleham. However, I cannot find where Jesus ever made the offer.

We know from prophesy that two events must happen prior to the Kingdom being established. Israel must go through the Tribulation and the Mesiah must suffer.

Speaking of Himself, Jesus says in Luke 17:25 "But first must he (the Messiah) suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation."

Based on the above, there was no way that Jesus could make an offer of the Kingdom at that time.

At the time of Pentecost, we know that the Messiah completed His rejection and suffering. Peter, knowing the Scriptures, now is telling his listeners that the Tribulation has already started. Therfore, he could make an offer of the Kingdom, based upon their repentance. Had Israel repented, then the Tribulation would have continued for the 7 year duration and Jesus would have returned. However, as I have stated previously, it was interrupted with the setting aside of the nation Israel; after the stoning of Stepen

There is another thing I find in the book Luke that I find very interesting.

Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him (Jesus) the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the broken  hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 and he bagan to say unto them This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

Jesus is reading from Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

After comparing the two above passages, notice where Jesus left off reading and closed the book. It is between the phrases "To preach the acceptable year of the Lord" and "and the day of vengeance of our God;"

Had Jesus read "and the day of vengeance of our God," He would not have been able to say in Luke 4:21 "This day is this scriopture fulfilled in your ears, because "the day of vengeance of our God" is The Tribulation. The acceptable year of the Lord is every year.

This dispensation of Grace cannot be found in prophesy, but I do believe that it fits right in between "the acceptable year of the Lord" and "the day of vengeance of our God.

Looking forward to you response.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Much and Love The Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 27, 2004, 11:32:41 PM
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BigD Said:

This dispensation of Grace cannot be found in prophesy, but I do believe that it fits right in between "the acceptable year of the Lord" and "the day of vengeance of our God.

Looking forward to you response.

BigD,

I've just spent several hours with my grandson, so I'm too tired to do much tonight.   :D  It's a good tired though.

I believe that the Apostle Paul explains the dispensation of Grace quite well, and the answer for why this dispensation is not included in Old Testament Prophecy is also explained. Many of the things of Christ were a mystery not made known to men of other ages. The dispensation of Grace is now, and that's what the Apostle Paul calls it. In terms of Daniel's time-line, I believe that our current time falls between the 69th & 70th week. I have many reasons for this belief, but one of the most simple reasons is that the Dispensation of God's Grace is not a part of Daniel's time-line. Further, there is ample reason to believe that many things of Christ were a mystery to other New Testament writers until Paul preached them. Please don't get the wrong idea that I'm suggesting ONLY the study of Paul's writings, because I would believe otherwise. I believe that the entire Bible has great value for study.

We agree completely that Israel was put aside, and it will remain so until the "fullness of the Gentiles be come in." I think that time draws near. I believe that the Tribulation Period is a literal 7 year period of time, and I don't think that time has arrived. I'll have to study the possibility of an interrupted Tribulation Period before I would have much of a comment on that. Many years of previous Bible study would make me believe differently than you do, but I'm open to study and will do so at my first opportunity.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 28, 2004, 04:25:44 AM
BEP:
THANKS for your reply.

Can understand what grand-children can do. For now, it is my great-grand-daughter that is quite capable of doing that. Her younger sister isn't quite old enough to do that YET.

My views concerning the Tribulation period matched yours some years age, but Bible study has changed my views. Being I am still in the learning mode, they could possibly be changed again, or at least modified. The more I study the Bible, the more I learn. It is a never ending process. Participating in these forums have broadened my knowledge of the Bible and what other doctrines are out there. I enjoy discussing the issues when we differ. Some call it "debate"/"argue", whereas I prefer to call it "discussion".

My personal belief is that when one says that they do not want to debate/agrue with me; it usually means that they can't defend their position. I try extremely hard to only present my views that I am prepared to defend.

God Bless, and continue to enjoy you grand-son. Had I have know that grand-children could be so much fun, I would have had them first.

Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!



Am looking forward to what you further study


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Sulfurdolphin on November 28, 2004, 11:25:43 AM

Since Arafat, is out of the way I have been thinking alot how this could bring the Anti-Messiah onto the scene. The Israelis wanting peace with the Arabs this time line between now and possibly few more years can bring the false messiah. We're living in Prophecy as we speak with the Remenant of the Jewish people coming from the North and from all over the world. The Israelis will do almost anything for peace sadly to say most of your secular israelis want to give part of it to the arabs to give up the Jewish land that God which He has inscribed His name and invoked His name In Jerusalem, Israel. And we know by the Old Covenant, that they are not to sell there land to foreigners which the arabs are by scriptural standards since nobody wants the land but the arabs.
I, believe this is the time to watch out for the arab false messiah to appear anytime. Since we're living in prophecy that is happening all around Israel everyday we need to look up to the eastern sky and remeber that are redemption is near. We need to pray that the temple mount will collapse soon and with the arabs building more mosque underneath the temple mount, it will speedily cause it's collapse.
But i look to that earthquake that will cause it to fully collapse so that the Messiah can rebuild the 3rd Jewish Temple. Then afterwards the false messiah will declare the false peace treaty for one week {of years}. For half of the week he will put a stop to the sacrifice and the grain offering.

The last desolation of abominations occured either 1st or 2nd temple. A pig was placed onto the altar causing this desolation of abominations. As well as there enemies set up altars for there idols and burnt incense at the doors of their houses and in the streets.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 28, 2004, 02:52:35 PM
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My personal belief is that when one says that they do not want to debate/agrue with me; it usually means that they can't defend their position. I try extremely hard to only present my views that I am prepared to defend.

Nice try!  :)   My personal belief is to search the word for truth, not arguing the finer points in an attempt to prove ones knowledge.     Knowledge comes from the Lord, not arguing.   I'm sorry your desire is to debate me.   My desire is to understand Gods word, not views.   If my views don't match up to yours, rather than attempting to prove me wrong, prove yourself right by your own study of the word.  If you find that I am indeed wrong, then you might pray for me that the Holy Spirit would teach me a better understanding than I currently have.   This would be far more beneficial and adult like than weilding our pride and so called knowledge in an attempt to press our views as correct.   I don't think I ever said once in any of my threads that my views are absolute.  I still seek understanding just like you.   So since neither of us have absolute truth apart from trust in the Lord, lets instead pray for one another and continue to seek truth....IN HIS WORD!

If you still desire debate I certainly cannot stop you, but my peace is not dependant on it.

May God richly bless you!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 28, 2004, 03:12:10 PM
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BigD Said:

My personal belief is that when one says that they do not want to debate/agrue with me; it usually means that they can't defend their position. I try extremely hard to only present my views that I am prepared to defend.

BigD,

I would agree completely with 2nd Timothy, and I appreciate your blunt statement above. It simply means that I have nothing to discuss with you, but not for the reasons you state.

I've been involved in many debates during the past, and there was a common denominator with many of them:  (1) someone got their feelings hurt;  (2) the argument or debate did not honor God, rather the ego of one or more participants;  (3) everyone was wrapped up in themselves with no interest in learning or study.

2 Timothy 2:14  Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

That pretty much sums it up for me, so we have nothing to discuss.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 28, 2004, 05:32:37 PM
2T & BEP:
When I responded to your postings, I was not looking for a debate as to whether or not the Tribulation started in Acts 2:15-20. I was expressing my views. You will notice, that I gave Scriptural support as to how I arrived at my point of view.

As I am also a student of the Scriptures, I do a considerable amount of reading from different authors. My personal library of books by Bible commentators number well over 50. Some I would agree with the far majority of the time, Some I agree with in some areas, and some views I totally reject. My bench mark is the Bible in considering what the authors say. By reading all of the books plus the Bible, my knowledge of the Bible has been broadened.

My view of the Tribulation starting at Penatecost is based on Scripture. You both feel that we are in between the 69th and 70th week of Dainel's prophesy. Although I held that view for many many years, It was not based upon Scripture. It was what I was taught and wanted to believe. Neither of you have shown me from Scripture that my presenat view is wrong.

When, and if either of you two gentlemen can show me that my view is in error, I will be more then willing to change my views. Many of the views I hold today are far from what I was taught as a child and early adulthood.

My early religious background is that I came from a strong Calvinistic family and educated in the Calvinist "Christian School". In fact, two of my father's first cousins were professors at Calvin College. One was even honored by have a "house" named after him. I believed and wanted to believe everything I was taught, and very proud of my religious background.

From studying the Bible and reading and listening to different comentations, my views have changed constantly. The views I hold today are the result of much study. Previously I had found the Bible to be a contradictory and confusing book. As a result of my search for truth and studying, the Bible is now much more understandable and a joy to study. I can now understand God's Plan for the Ages.

I would really appreciate it if either, or both, of you would take the time and explain to why you feel that my view of the Tribulation starting a Pentecost is in error. Like I have said earlier, "I am still in the learning mode." I would not consider it a "debate" but and educational dialogue.

If I have given either, or both, of you gentlemen the impression that I wanted to debate/argue, it was not my intention. I am VERRY SORRY if I have given you that impression. However, I do enjoy discussing Scriptural topics.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!








Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 28, 2004, 08:01:36 PM

My personal belief is that when one says that they do not want to debate/agrue with me; it usually means that they can't defend their position. I try extremely hard to only present my views that I am prepared to defend.
BigD, this is nothing against you. It is not an attack, or a put down.

The reason I will not debate you, is you get people confused, least you confuse me. You have a habit of turning things around. Where you confuse me, every single time. To where the orginal post doesn't read anything like it was posted, and means something different to me.

I know you are a debater, and thats fine. I myself, will not debate you. I under stand the Bible, maybe not to the degree you understand, it. My understanding, is to seek the truth, not to confuse believers. More often simple is best, remember that we do have 8 year old children reading these posts. When you confuse a child, they wonder, whats going on.

Resting in the Lords arms.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 28, 2004, 08:49:55 PM
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When, and if either of you two gentlemen can show me that my view is in error, I will be more then willing to change my views.

When was the last time a debate has changed your views brother?  I have already stated my views in this very thread and you have already said you disagree, yet you insist you are right and I am wrong.   There is nothing more to say except we disagree.  God alone is right, and we struggle to understand the simple things.  We all acknowledge that Gods word is the benchmark of truth, yet we arrive at differing views.  Will that be settled by debate, or much prayer, seeking, and teaching, from the Holy Spirit and His word?   All truth seekers should know this answer.

Stick to the benchmark which you acknowledge.   This is the truth that changes mens hearts with power, and what truth seekers eagerly hunger for.   Debate only proves who uses the language better, not who really understands.  Look to the Truth Giver and the word to test your views, because His word alone is everlasting.

Blessings!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 28, 2004, 09:41:09 PM
Nov. 28, 2004 21:55
Shalom calls EU pro-Palestinan
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom Sunday accused the European Union of bias in favor of the Palestinians, hours before leaving to attend a meeting of European and Arab foreign ministers in the Netherlands.

EU officials have said they see Yasser Arafat's death on Nov. 11 as providing a window of opportunity for renewed Mideast peace efforts.

European diplomats have stepped up contacts over the past two weeks. "I believe it shows that the EU would like to get involved in a peace process in the region," Shalom told a conference of overseas supporters of Israel in Jerusalem Sunday.

He repeated, however, Israel's accusation that the Europeans are not impartial brokers in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

"It can't be that they adopt in advance 100 percent of the demands of the Palestinian side if they want to become a mediator or facilitator between us and them," he said.

EU officials' response to that frequent accusation is that Israel wants to expand its lucrative trade with the expanding EU bloc of around 450 million consumers without giving the Europeans more of a voice in Mideast peacemaking.

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana attended Arafat's funeral in the West Bank city of Ramallah and met with Palestinian leaders afterward.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw held talks with both sides last week, and Shalom is scheduled to meet Solana on the sidelines of the biannual meeting of EU foreign ministers and their counterparts from 10 eastern Mediterranean countries in The Hague, on Monday and Tuesday.

Talks on the EU's "Neighborhood Policy," seeking to draw nonmember neighbors closer to the union, have come up against Israeli objections to references in the draft agreement to the internationally backed "road map" peace plan, which calls for a Palestinian state alongside Israel, because it ignores Israeli objections, the officials said.

The Israelis are also balking at references to the role of the so-called Quartet of Mideast peacemakers, including Europe and Russia, and to clauses on human rights and weapons of mass destruction.

Israel refuses to confirm or deny reports of its nuclear weapons arsenal and has been regularly accused by human rights groups of abusing Palestinians.

The Hague meeting groups the 25 EU member states with nonmembers Israel, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, and Turkey, what is known as the "Euromed" partnership.

The Foreign Ministry said that in addition to the plenary session, Sharon will hold bilateral meetings with the foreign ministers of several EU states and of Jordan, Turkey and Mauritania, which is attending as an observer.

Despite his criticisms, Shalom said Israel is eager to thaw its often chilly relationship with Europe.

"We are investing great efforts to promote out political and economic ties with the EU," he said Sunday. "Close relations with Europe are in our interest as well as theirs."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1101615865296

Resting in my Lords arms, Jesus Christ.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 29, 2004, 05:02:18 AM
BigD posted:
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My personal belief is that when one says that they do not want to debate/agrue with me; it usually means that they can't defend their position. I try extremely hard to only present my views that I am prepared to defend.

DW responded:
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BigD, this is nothing against you. It is not an attack, or a put down.

The reason I will not debate you, is you get people confused, least you confuse me. You have a habit of turning things around. Where you confuse me, every single time. To where the orginal post doesn't read anything like it was posted, and means something different to me.

BigD replies:
My intent is to not confuse anyone. I am SORRY if I have done that to you. However, I enjoy reading about what others believe, and when views are expressed that are different from what I believe the Bible Teaches, I do attempt to point them out. In many cases, I'm sure that it might seem that, like you say: ''the orginal post doesn't read anything like it was posted and means something different to me."

DW continues:[.b]
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I know you are a debater, and thats fine. I myself, will not debate you.

BigD responds:
My participating in forums is not for the purpose of debate, but for discussion. However, if one wishes to call that debating, then so be it.

I have requested to those who's views differ from mine, that they show me the error of my view. If my view is in error, I most diffenatly wish to be corrected. I don't consider that debating.

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I under stand the Bible, maybe not to the degree you understand, it. My understanding, is to seek the truth, not to confuse believers.

BigD responds:
It speaks highly of you that you "seek the truth." That should be the goal of everyone, even the non-believers. That has always been my goal as long as I can remember.

It no doubt is my father's experience in my life that molded my present day belief system. Although many of my views differ from the ones he held; to include prophesy. I can remember back in WWII days when preachers were teaching that it was the fulfillment of prophesy. Even I believed it.

Earlier I wrote of my very early Calvinist background. My father was, at one time, a very strong Calvinist. However, He also studied the Bible and took it literally.

I now have to take you back to pre 1948. Being I am 72 years of age, I do remember those days. The Calvinist teachings prior to then is that Israel was no longer a nation and never would again be a nation. That the Church was now "spiritual" Israel and that we would inherit all the blessings that were promised to physical Israel. That, they considered, was "sound doctrine." (This was in a small Dutch community with 7 Reformed Churches. No other chruches existed in that town at that time.)

Well, from my dad's personal study of the Bible, he believed that Israel would again be a nation. When he spoke his views at the Wednesday night "Men's Society" (Bible study), he was told that he was crazy. And, I am sure, many thought that it was a confusing message. Because my dad would not change his views, he was considered a "heretic" and excommunicated from the church. He had no other church to attend, but my mother and the rest of the family attended the Reformed Chruch and I attended their "Christian school."

Being my dad not no church to attend, he primarily just studied the Bible. He then saw more and more that didn't agree with Calvinism.

Well, as you know, Israel became a nation on May 14, 1948. My dad died on May 31, 1948.

At school we had our daily Bible Study and once a week we had our weekly catechism class (Calvinist doctrine). While studying the night before, my dad would read my catechism lession and then have me ask a question of my teacher/pastor pertaining to what my catechism lesson taught and what the Bible said on the subject.

You know, I never got an answer to the question. However, I did learn a great deal about their feeling concerning my dad.

My dad really never told me just what he actually believed. When I look back, I think it was because it was contrary to what my mother believed and he just wanted to keep family harmony. However, he did instill in me not to believe everything I was told.

Being I was taught that I had to read my Bible everynight, which I did, and that I had to live everything the Bible taught, I began to see the Bible as a contradictory book. When I asked my teachers and pastor to explain the seemingly contradictions, all I got were chruch doctrine answers that never answered my questions. When I "pushed" for further clarification, the stock reply was: "Well some things we just have to take by faith." I continued to ready (study) my Bible and kept getting more and more confused.

While still in high school, we had moved out of state to a much larger city. (From 2,000 to 45,000). My dad died shortly thereafter.

When I graduated from high school, I continued my search for truth from the different denominational and non-denominational churches. I kept looking for answers to my questions but only got chruch doctrine answers. The pastors kept telling me that what they taught was scriptural and that the other denominations were wrong. How could that be?

I finally came to the the conclusion that the church that was the most scriptural had to be the one to attend. I concluded that it must be between the Baptist and the Pentecostal churches, and I was leaning to the Pentecostals.

Then, I saw a film  about the "snake handlers." To me they were the most scriptural. Well, you show me a snake, and I will demonstrate a coward. It was then that I gave up on all churches for far too many years. However, I always had a longing for truth. I even had to quit reading my Bible for fear of going crazy by not being able to figure it out.

As a very young man, I did give my life to Christ. I was taught, and believed, that to get to heaven I had to read my Bible everyday, confess my sins every night, live by the 10 commandments, and not "backslide." Well, no matter how hard I tried, I just knew that if I died, that I was not "good enough" to make it to heaven. Therefore, I just gave up trying and went the way of the world, but still had a longing in my heart for truth.

In 1952 I joined the Army and made it a career. I went unchurched until 1964. Being I was married at that time and had 3 children, I did send them to Sunday School, but my wife and I didn't attend any church.

In 1964, while stationed in South Chicage, circumstances led me to a small non-denominational church one Sunday morning. That Sunday morning turned my life around. In one sermon, just about all the questions I had in my youth were answered, and I didn't even ask a question. I sat dumbfounded.

The teacher that morning was beginning a series of studies on the book of the Acts. That Sunday morning he gave an overview of the book. That book was the stumbling block in my life. To me it was full of contratictions. But the teacher had shown me that the book of the Acts was a transitional book from the dispensation of the Law to the dispensation of Grace, from the setting aside of the nation of Israel to the start of the Body of Christ, the Church of today.

For all those years, I was trying to live Law and Grace at the same time. I didn't know how to do that, and failed miserably trying to. I believed the church was spiritual Israel, and learned that the Church, the Body of Christ is not spiritual Israel. Also, I learned that all the Bible is FOR ME but not all TO ME. No one had ever shown me differently. What I thought were contradictions in the Bible were not that at all; it was transtion from the dispensation of the Law to the dispensation of Grace.

Little did I know that the chruch I attened that Sunday morning did not have a pastor. The teacher that day was just "filling in" until they found a pastor. The teacher that day was not other then Pastor C.R.Stam, founder and president of the Berean Bible Society. I consider it a rare privilege to say that I had gotten to know him personally while living in South Chicage. I have, and have read all of his writings.

Once I was shown the above, the Bible became a joy to read. The confusion vanished, and that is not to say that I understand all of it yet. I am still in the learning mode.

Being in the military and being stationed in different parts of the country and world, I had a very hard time finding churches that were "dispensational Grace Chruches." Therefore, a great deal of my learning came from reading different commentaries. Because of my new hunger for truth, I guess that is why I have so many books by so many different authors.

I had no intention to tell you of my life experience. It is because of what you wrote concerning your 8 year old son, that compelled me to do it. Many times I look back and thinK "If only I had been shown these things in my youth, Would my life would have been different?" I think it would have.

(to be cont'd)

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 29, 2004, 05:03:35 AM
DW goes on:
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More often simple is best, remember that we do have 8 year old children reading these posts. When you confuse a child, they wonder, whats going on.


BigD responds:
Simple can be best is it correct/proper. I took the simple way out and discontinued searching for thruth because it appeared I would never find it. I felt like the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 when Philip asked him "Understandest thou what thou readest?" I had no one to show me. If only my dad could have "shown me" instead of trying to keep family unity.

IMHO, it is good for you son to read other views. I do hope he asks questions about them. It is your duty as a father to show him if those views are right or wrong. Be like a Berean and "...search the Scriptures daily, whether those thing were so" (Acts 17:11).

I do not look for debate/agruement, but I do enjoy discussion on Scriptural subjects. If you do not wish to dialogue with me, I can accept that.

DW posted:
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Resting in the Lords arms.

BigD responds:
THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: BigD on November 29, 2004, 06:06:20 AM
BogD posted:
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When, and if either of you two gentlemen can show me that my view is in error, I will be more then willing to change my views.

2T responded:
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When was the last time a debate has changed your views brother?

BigD replies:
Well, just within the last couple of months.

I had been taugh and believed, for as long as I can remember, that when Christ was teaching here upon the earth; that He was offering the kingdom to Isreal.

In our Sunday School we are going through the book of the Acts verse by verse. When we got to the part in Acts 2, where Peter is offering the kingdom to Israel if they would repent, It was pointed out to me that Jesus had never offered the kingdom to Israel, and Peter was offering it for the first time. We had some very good discussion (some would call it debate) on the subject. Guess what? I CHANGED MY VIEW. I'm still in the learning mode and learned something NEW. This has been happening for years now.

2T continues:
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I have already stated my views in this very thread and you have already said you disagree, yet you insist you are right and I am wrong.   There is nothing more to say except we disagree.

BigD responds:
I will admit that did point out to you that which I felt was in error. Didn't realize that I was that insistant.

Had you pointed out to me what you disagreed with me on, and would have corrected me, then I would have been more then happy to discuss it with you.  

You should be able to justify what you write, as I feel I can defend (justify) what I express. I do no consider that debate/arguing.

My request above, was for others to show me that my views were in error. I have always tried to keep an open mind to others views, and look forward to their imput. Seems like they have no desire to help me.

2T goes on:
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God alone is right, and we struggle to understand the simple things.  We all acknowledge that Gods word is the benchmark of truth, yet we arrive at differing views.  Will that be settled by debate, or much prayer, seeking, and teaching, from the Holy Spirit and His word?   All truth seekers should know this answer.

BigD responds:
Everything that God wants us to know is written in the Bible. It is TRUTH.

We are instructed in 2 Timothy 2:15 that we must "rightly divide the word of truth."

When Paul preached what was revealed to him (that "which was kept secret since the world began), the Bereans didn't say we don't want to debate or argue with you, or even discuss it, "...they received the Word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, where those things were so" (Acts 17:11). That is all that I am asking for others to do. If they believe my view are in error, then I wish they would point out my error, then I will search the Scriptures to see if thier views are so. I AM STILL IN THE LEARNING MODE.

I am not saying that I have all the truth that was revealed to Paul, but I am Pauline in my doctrine. I do not read his epistles into the Old Testament or the Gospels.

Yes, I do agree with you that we pray and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. Too many people do that, then they follow the "doctrines of men," which is denominationalism.

2T goes on:
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Stick to the benchmark which you acknowledge.   This is the truth that changes mens hearts with power, and what truth seekers eagerly hunger for.

BigD responds:
That I attempt to do and consider that EXCELLENT ADVICE. I agree.

2T goes on:
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Debate only proves who uses the language better, not who really understands.

BigD responds:
Well, I don't really agree with that. In the past I have changed my views in many areas after listening to a debate and even participating in them.  

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Look to the Truth Giver and the word to test your views, because His word alone is everlasting.

BigD responds:
I can agree with that. Be a Berean.

In closing I will just say that if you do not wish to dialogue with me, I can accept that.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 29, 2004, 12:00:33 PM
DW goes on:
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More often simple is best, remember that we do have 8 year old children reading these posts. When you confuse a child, they wonder, whats going on.


BigD responds:
Simple can be best is it correct/proper. I took the simple way out and discontinued searching for thruth because it appeared I would never find it. I felt like the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 when Philip asked him "Understandest thou what thou readest?" I had no one to show me. If only my dad could have "shown me" instead of trying to keep family unity.

IMHO, it is good for you son to read other views. I do hope he asks questions about them. It is your duty as a father to show him if those views are right or wrong. Be like a Berean and "...search the Scriptures daily, whether those thing were so" (Acts 17:11).
I think you misunderstood that I had say. Christians Unite, have some children, as low as 8 years old reading the posts. How do I know this? A few of the children from my Church read the posts. I have gotten asked, what does this mean, or that means, from the children.

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I do not look for debate/agruement, but I do enjoy discussion on Scriptural subjects. If you do not wish to dialogue with me, I can accept that.
I still love you brother. :)

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DW posted:
Resting in the Lords arms.

BigD responds:
THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!
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Amen BigD


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 29, 2004, 05:05:33 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

This thread does not involve Salvation issues, and there is no hint of anything here but a Bible Study. As a result, I really don't care about agreement or disagreement. Most, if not all, of the folks involved in this thread do their own independent Bible Studies, even when the material comes from their own pastor.

I would simply like to thank everyone for some fascinating additions to my own personal Bible Study. Just about everyone who studies Bible Prophecy has varying opinions, primarily because it is difficult material to study, even for mature Christians. This is one reason why many Christians don't study Bible Prophecy. It involves a lot of work on your own, prayer, and the knowledge that PROBABLY no two Christians agree completely, including Bible scholars. I'm not a Bible scholar, but I do enjoy the study of Bible Prophecy. It's in the Bible for a purpose, and that purpose causes the exploration of just about the entire Bible if one really wants to study.

2nd Timothy and Dreamweaver, I really do want to study and I appreciate all the work you have done in this thread and others on the topic of Bible prophecy. I'm really enjoying the study of several books of the Holy Bible and hope to contribute something to these threads soon. In the meantime, please accept my sincere thanks for all of the work you are doing.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 35:9  And my soul shall be joyful in the LORD: it shall rejoice in his salvation.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: at_the_Cross on November 29, 2004, 08:38:40 PM
Isaiah 1:18) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on November 30, 2004, 02:47:19 PM
Nov. 27, 2004 11:52
Every Iranian wants the bomb
By ABRAHAM RABINOVICH

The queries he receives from Iran about converting to Judaism say less about the lure of the Jewish faith than about the abysmal situation in the land of the ayatollahs, according to veteran Iran hand Menashe Amir.

"The main reason they ask about conversion is that people want to get out of Iran and it has become more difficult to obtain visas to Europe and elsewhere," says Amir, the longtime director of the Iranian desk at the Israel Broadcasting Authority. "They believe that if they convert to Judaism they can receive refuge in Israel."

However, for a small number, religious searching may play a role.

"The regime in Teheran is so oppressive, it has made Islam hateful to many Iranians. Some convert to Christianity, despite the fact that it could cost them their lives if it were discovered. A few think about converting to Judaism."

Several dozen queries about conversion have come to Amir in recent years, mostly through a weekly call-in program he conducts. The callers in Iran dial a number in Europe and are rerouted automatically to the IBA Jerusalem studio. Many openly criticize the regime in Teheran and some do not even mind giving their names. There have been no reports of the government hunting them down.

"The regime apparently sees this as a way to let off steam," says Amir.

The Jewish community in Iran, which numbers 23,000 compared to 80,000 before the revolution, retains its vitality. In Teheran, there are 11 active synagogues serving 15,000 Jews. There are four synagogues in Shiraz and several in other towns.

"The Jews are doing all right economically and their educational institutions function," says Amir.

The community avoids contact with Israel or international Jewish organizations but maintains contact, with the tacit approval of the Iranian regime, with the large Iranian Jewish communities in England and the US.

Amir and his team closely monitor the Iranian pulse via the Iranian media - radio, press, television, Internet - and "other sources." The IBA broadcasts a daily 35-minute news program in Farsi to an audience estimated at one-to-two million Iranians. Amir believes that the broadcasts have earned high credibility because of the detail they offer about events in Iran and the incisiveness of analysis provided by a veteran team.

"We stick to the facts," he says. "The situation in Iran is so terrible there is no need to distort." Revolutionary regimes, by their nature, begin enthusiastically but are slowed down by life's underbrush like bureaucracy, economic thickets and human ornariness.

"It's clear that the regime in Iran has reached a dead-end after 25 years," says Amir, himself a Teheran native. "The country has become much poorer. The population has grown from 37 million to 67 million. They need to provide 800,000 new jobs each year but can't. Poverty is spreading and many turn to prostitution. Even senior clerics in their Friday sermons speak out against the cost of living. When I ask callers why there has been no uprising, they say the regime is brutal and people are afraid. They point out that without American intervention, neither Afghanistan nor Iraq would have been freed of their oppressive regimes."

There is no leadership around which the various opposition groups have been able to rally, he says, and there is little cooperation among the dissidents. When university students took to the streets, no other segments of the population joined them.

Amir believes that the Iranian people would welcome an American incursion "with open arms," an appraisal that may raise eyebrows in view of similar appraisals by experts about Iraq before the US invasion of that country. However, Amir believes that the Iranian regime is ripe for falling, even without the intervention of foreign troops.

"If America invested in encouraging opposition groups inside and outside Iran, it would not need to send in a single soldier."

If such an effort were made, he believes, the results could be felt within the coming American presidential term.

"President Bush has made some encouraging declarations about support for Iranians' struggle for liberation but that's not enough. America has to help practically by uniting the opposition."

As for the Iranian bomb, dissidents want it as much as the regime, notes Amir, although they would not like to see the ayatollahs get their hands on it.

"Iran is a nation without a natural ally and it always feels threatened by outside forces. Every Iranian wants the bomb. They want deterrence."

Would relations with Israel be restored if the present regime falls?

"I have no doubt about it," says Amir. "Iran and Israel are both isolated in the region and need allies. You would have an Israel-Iran-Turkey axis."

After the regime falls, he says, Iran would need serious reconstruction in many sectors. "Israel is in a position to help."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1101356020078



Title: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Brother Love on December 02, 2004, 04:45:51 AM
2nd Timothy:
You have gone to great leangths to show that you do not understand that we are not living in the "end times" of Biblical prophesy.

We may very well be living in the "last days" of this dispensation of grace, "which was kept secret since the world began."

There are, no doubt, events happening today that are leading up to the fulfillment of the Biblical prophesies.

When one studies Acts 3:15-20, one can see that the "last days" (Tribulation) had already started at Pentecost. Those "last days" are the 70th week of Daniels prophesy in chapter 9. Joel speaks of them in 2:28-32. In fact, Peter, in Acts 2, quotes Joel almost word for word.

Peter knew exactly where he was in the timetable of prophesy because he was speaking "as the Spirit gave them utterance" (vs 4), and Jesus, before returning to heaven, had opened the understanding of the OT Scirptures to His disciples (Luke 24:45).

The Tribulation that started in Acts 2 was interrupted when God set the nation of Israel aside after the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7, and ushered in this unprophesied "dispensation of grace"; with the raising up of Saul/Paul (Acts 9). The Tribulation will again resume after ths "dispensation of grace" has been raptured. That will be when "the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" (Rms11:25).

In order to fully understand exactly were we are in God's timetable today, we must understand "the Mystery" that was revealed to the Apostle Paul, Not the prophetic Scriptures of the OT.

In his book "Things That Differ" Pastor Stam list 14 basic things between PROPHECY (P) AND THE MYSTERY (M).

1. (P) Concerns a kingdom; a political organization (Dan. 2:44, Matt. 6:10).

(M) Concerns a body; a living organism (I Cor. 12:12,27, Eph. 4:12-16).

2. (P) The kingdom to be established on earth (Jer. 23:5, Matt. 6:10).

(M) The body given a position in heaven (Eph. 1:3, 2:5-6, Col 3:1-3).

3. (P) Christ to be its King (Jer. 23:5, Isa.9:6,7).

(M) Christ its living Head (Eph. 1:19-23,Col. 1:18).

4. (P) The kingdom prophesied "since the world began" (Luke 1:68-70, Acts3:21).

(M) The body chosen in Christ before the world began, but "kept secret sincethe world began" (Rom. 16:25, Eph.1:4-11, 3:5-9).

5. (P) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations (Isa. 60:10-12, 61:6).

(M) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God (Rom. 10:12, 11:32,Eph. 2:16,17).

6. (P) The Gentiles to be blessed through Israel’s instrumentality (Gen.22:17,18, Zech. 8:13).

(M) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinacy (Acts 13:44-46,Rom. 11:28-32).

7. (P) The Gentiles to be blessed through Israel’s rise (Isa. 60:1-3, Zech. 8:22,23).

(M) The Gentiles blessed throughIsrael’s fall (Acts 28:27,28, Rom.11:11, 12, 15).

8. (P) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such (Isa. 2:4, Ezek. 37:21, 22).

(M) The mystery concerns individuals (Rom. 10:12, 13, II Cor. 5:14-17).

9. (P) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth (Isa.2:3, 4, 11:1-9, etc.).

(M)The mystery concerns "all spiritual blessings in the heavenlies" (Eph.1:3, Col. 3:1-3).

10. (P) Prophecy concerns Christ’s coming to the earth (Isa. 59:20, Zech. 14:4).

(M)The mystery explains Christ’s present absence from the earth (Eph. 1:20-23, Col. 3:1-3).

11. (P) In prophecy salvation by grace through faith alone is not contemplated.

(M) Salvation by faith alone lies at the very heart of the mystery (Rom. 3:21-26, 4:5, Eph.2:8,9).

12, (P)The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve (Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26).

(M) The proclamation of the mystery committed particularly to Paul (Eph.3:1-3, 8-9, Col. 1:24-27).

13 (P) The prophetic program revealed through many of God’s servants (Luke 1:70, II Pet. 1:21).

(M) The mystery revealed through one man; Paul (Gal. 1:1, 11, 12, 2:2, 7, 9,Eph. 3:2,3).

14. (P) Old testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made known through them (Dan. 12:8-10, 1 Peter 1:10-12).

(M) Paul both understood and longed that others might understand the mystery revealed through him. (Eph.1:15-23, 3:14-21, Col. 1:9 -10, 2:1-3).

I highly recommend that you read this book. It can be read on line and is shown at the end of Brother Love's postings.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Much and Love The Lord!



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Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 02, 2004, 09:15:21 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

There is no need to let semantics start a debate in a Bible study we are trying to have. We are all talking about the end times of the Dispensation of Grace. This should be painfully obvious, but maybe not for some. All of the participants know about the Tribulation Period and the 1,000 year rule and reign of Christ, so implying otherwise appears to be trying to start an argument in a Bible study over semantics. It's really less than semantics, rather a challenge to a non-existent thought from any of the participants.

I don't think that any of the participants want anything except a study, certainly not a debate or argument. Those who want a debate, take it to the debate section with someone who wants to debate.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 03, 2004, 01:20:19 AM
Nov. 30, 2004 8:39
A tentative effort to foster Jewish-Muslim dialogue begins in Paris
By JEWISH TELEGRAPH AGENCY
Paris

Although French Jews and Muslims have launched an organization to promote dialogue between them, the path to true friendship remains rocky.

An interfaith gathering last month at Paris's City of Sciences and Industry marked the launch of the Jewish-Muslim Friendship Association, a group its founders hope will usher in a new era in relations between France's Jewish and Muslim communities.

The group – whose patrons are to be Simone Weill, president of France's Holocaust Foundation and a former president of the European Parliament, and Lebanon's former ambassador to France, Stetie Salah – has set up a 12-person executive committee, six members from each faith.

The absence of official backing from the French Muslim Council, whose two leading factions – the Federation of French Muslims and the Union of French Islamic Organizations – have touchy relationships with mainstream Jewish groups, put a slight blight on what was widely regarded as a successful and well-attended gathering.

Based on a model that already exists between Jewish and Christian groups, the organization is the brainchild of Rabbi Michel Serfaty, the leader of an Orthodox congregation in Paris and a longtime advocate of interfaith dialogue.

Serfaty, the victim of a racially-motivated attack last year, was able to bring together an impressive list of Jewish and Muslim clerics for the event, including Paris Chief Rabbi David Messas and Dalil Boubakeur, the rector of the city's Grand Mosque.

However, Boubakeur, a moderate known for his close ties with Jewish groups, attended only in his capacity as head of the mosque rather than as an official representative of the council, of which he is president.

Discussions and debates on religious and cultural themes took place throughout the November 21 event, while various local Muslim and Jewish groups welcomed visitors to some 30 stalls dotting the hall, highlighting such varied themes as circumcision rites, wedding ceremonies and philanthropic initiatives.

Speaking to JTA shortly after the rabbis and imams were replaced on the stage by Jewish and Muslim musicians in a concert culminating the event, Serfaty described the gathering as "a great success." "This is the first path toward greater understanding between Muslims and Jews in France," he said.

Many of those attending also expressed hope that the event could be the catalyst for more positive dialogue.

Claudine Frand, an executive member of the Abraham Brotherhood, an interfaith group, said it is a pity that such an initiative had taken so long to come about.

"There's always been dialogue between Jews and Christians and between Christians and Muslims, and there's such a great atmosphere here," she said. "Of course, there's always going to be people who want to pour oil on the fire, but religion can be used as a tool for us all to build solidarity and fraternity."

That spirit of brotherhood was well illustrated at a stall where members of the Jewish and Muslim scout associations were engaged in friendly banter.

Muhammad Rouahbi, a senior chaplain with the French Muslim Scouts, described the event as "an historic day," adding that "we have to build on this to pass this message of tolerance on to the youth who have lost their way."

At the back of the hall, Ben Omar Taif, who heads the French Muslim Council's halal committee in Marseille, was busy chatting away with Daniel Messiha, a kosher food trader from Paris.

Messiha had suggested to Taif that he come up to the capital for the event after the two worked together at a recent ethnic food show. Here, they jokingly exchanged gifts: Taif's official halal listings and Messiha's kashrut guide from the Paris Consistoire, French Jewry's main religious group.

Taif said that food is a good place for dialogue to start because, "When you come together around a table, you don't just eat, you talk, you negotiate."

Many organizations at the event welcomed the opportunity to provide a showcase for positive elements of their respective faiths.

For Roger Cukierman, the president of the CRIF umbrella organization of French Jews, the event showed that "things are moving in the right direction," while the absence of some of the more radical Muslim groups was "just a little argument among factions in the council and shouldn't concern us."

"The fact that the principal organizers are the Paris Mosque and the Consistoire shows that there is a tradition of cooperation in this city," he said.

Serfaty, too, said that "we can only work with those who want to work with us."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1101709701598


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 03, 2004, 05:38:06 AM
 Fatah´s Farouk Kadumi: "Two States" Just a Temporary Solution
23:59 Dec 02, '04 / 19 Kislev 5765

A top PA official has reiterated the end-goal of the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel: a Palestinian state instead of Israel.

In a seeming re-affirmation of the PLO's 1974 "destroy Israel" program, commonly known as the Phased Plan, Fatah co-founder Farouk Kadumi termed the struggle for a two-state solution just a “stage” on the road to “only one [state].”

Kadumi spoke on Nov. 29th with Iran’s Al-Aram television station. When the interviewer asked Kadumi, “What is the future of Palestine?” the PLO leader answered: “At this stage there will be two states. Many years from now there will be only one.”

Asked why he has not softened his stance against Israel’s existence, Kadumi replied, "Our enemy always says, 'This is Judea and Samaria' ... They haven't changed their discourse. If they change theirs, we will change ours, and if not, we will keep saying that armed resistance is the way to Palestine."

He expressed confidence in the Arabs' ultimate victory, saying, “[There are] 300 million Arabs, while Israel has only the sea behind it.”

The basic principle of the 1974 Phased Plan is that the PLO would struggle to initially establish an "independent combatant national authority" over any territory "liberated" from Israeli rule. That “national authority” would then be used as a base for continued terror attacks. The final phase of the plan is all-out war against Israel by all her Arab neighbors with the hope of destroying the Jewish State entirely.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=72993

The entire clip, translated by MEMRI, can be viewed by clicking here. http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=390
Fatah Leader Faruq Qaddumi: Two-States A Temporary Solution

The following are excerpts from an interview with Fatah leader Faruq Qaddumi:

Interviewer: Do you still support martyrdom operations inside Israel?

Faruq Qaddumi: When you speak of martyrdom operations, I say that these operations were forced upon the Palestinian people, who face assassinations, killings, destruction of homes, and so on. [The Palestinian people] were forced to commit these operations. We were asked to stop these operations and we said that we were willing to. But stopping these operations is out of our hands. We are not a regular army. We are fighters. In other words, we don't have full control over the fighters...

Interviewer: Aren't you afraid you'll be labeled "a terrorist"?

Faruq Qaddumi: If the resistance in its entirety is labeled "terrorism" by America and Israel, why should we be afraid? A terrorist is someone who fights, not for a cause, but for the sake of fighting. If armed struggle has a political cause, especially if it is a noble one, then it is not terrorism.

Interviewer: Why didn't you change your political discourse although the situation around you has changed and there are circumstances you must deal with?

Faruq Qaddumi: Our enemy always says, "This is Judea and Samaria" and they are "Terrorists." They haven't changed their discourse. If they change theirs, we will change ours, and if not, we will keep saying that armed resistance is the way to Palestine. If there is no political initiative and they keep addressing us with sweet words, and try to seduce us like foxes do, we must continue in our path.

[There are] 300 Million Arabs, while Israel has only the sea behind it.

Interviewer: Minister, how do you see the future of Palestine?

Faruq Qaddumi: At this stage there will be two states. Many years from now there will be only one.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 03, 2004, 09:51:03 AM
Quote
Faruq Qaddumi: At this stage there will be two states. Many years from now there will be only one.

Wonder if he knows just how true that statement really is?   ;D


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 03, 2004, 02:34:10 PM
Quote
Faruq Qaddumi: At this stage there will be two states. Many years from now there will be only one.

Wonder if he knows just how true that statement really is?   ;D
[scarsm]I don't think sooooooo.[/scarsm] ;D


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on December 03, 2004, 03:23:22 PM
Ezek. 38 & 39 make reference to the invasion of Israel by "Gog".  Much has been said here, and other places, about the correlation between Gog and Russia, based primarily on references to Gog coming out of the north, but occasionally because of the word "rosh" in the Hebrew. Considering also the recent events involving Iran, I think it good to look at a couple of things.

The people referred to as those of the land of Magog were the ancient Sycthians. In the time of Ezekiel they lived in an area which was north of Israel, between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea with the Caucasus Mountain Range as their southern border. Gog of Magog is the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Both Meshech and Tubal, along with Magog are listed in Gen. 10:2 as sons of Japheth, a son of Noah. The ark landed on Mount Ararat in the Caucasus Mountains. These three grandsons of Noah settled north on the mountains in the southeastern region of the former Soviet Union. The basic area now known as eastern Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and only incidentally includes a very minor portion at the far southern reaches of Russia.

Gog's forces will be augmented by other armies, among them Persia, Cush, and Put . Coming against Israel from the east will be Persia. Persia changed it's name in 1935. It is now known as Iran. Cush and Put will attack Israel from the south. Cush is located to the south of Egypt and is today the eastern part of the Sudan and Ethiopia. Put is to the west of Egypt in the region of Libya (Ezek 38:5). Both are descendants of Noah through Ham (Gen. 10:6). Also allied with Gog in his invasion will be Gomer and Togarmah. These Japhethite grandsons of Noah settled in Asia Minor;Gomer in Germany and central Turkey, and Togarmah in eastern Turkey and Armenia.

It  is highly unlikely that Russia itself is Magog (Gog), but is instead a collection of countries that today are predominately Islamic, which would have a great deal to do with their spiritual attitude towards Israel. OTOH, Russia is predominately secular/Orthodox.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 03, 2004, 04:27:29 PM
Evangelist,

Fascinating!! Thanks Brother!!

I really enjoy your writing and Bible studies, so I'm very happy that you are participating in this thread. Brother, you've given me many beautiful things to study, both here and your web site.

Love In Christ,
Tom

I Timothy 4:6  If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 03, 2004, 04:42:05 PM
Absolutely Evangelist.  Sorry none of us were clearer on that.  Ezekiel gives pretty good details of Gog and Magog along with her allies.   I think they would be as follows....

Persia = Iran
Cush = Ethiopia
Phut (or Put) = Libya
Gomer = the Cimmerians / Germany
Togarmah = Turkic Tribes / Armenia
Meshech & Tubal = ancient Anatolia / Turkey

Also mentioned in Eze 38 is SHEBA and DEDAN, which would now be considered Saudi Arabia.

Eze 38:3  And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Eze 38:4  And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
Eze 38:5  Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
Eze 38:6  Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
and

Eze 38:13  Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?


Gog and magog in itself is really a whole study in itself.   There is much confusion as to when it takes place.  Some believe it happens at the beginning of Tribulation, others believe it happens after the 1000 year peace because Gog is mentioned yet again. in Rev 20 I believe.   Some believe this war is actually armageddon, but I disagree with that.

Either way its a facinating study.   Sorry I was not clearer on my views of who Gog was....I think gerneral consinsus is that Russia is a major player, with many allies in the war.

Grace and Peace!



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 03, 2004, 04:54:52 PM
Oh, I forgot to add...that this war which has not taken place yet, is excellent evidence that Israel did indeed have to become a nation again.   These armies are coming to Israel, Gods land to fight.    

38:8[...]in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations,


Not possible until 1948  ;)    

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 05, 2004, 04:38:16 PM
Austrialia Attacks Against Jews Increasing

Sun Dec 5, 1:18 AM ET
   
SYDNEY, Australia - Attacks against Jews have increased in Australia, a report by a major Jewish organization released Sunday showed.

The Executive Council of Australian Jewry, the elected body representing Australian Jews, said in its annual report on anti-Semitism in Australia that physical assaults, property damage and face-to-face harassment for the year ending in September was 50 percent higher than the average for the previous 14 years.

"The worst of these incidents included the smashing of windows at synagogues, eggs thrown at Jewish people on their way to or from religious ceremonies and a firecracker thrown at the door of the home of an Orthodox Jew after a person called out 'Let's get the Rabbi,'" the report said.

In the last year, the council received 455 reports of violence and harassment against Jews — the third consecutive year in which the number of reports rose above 450.

The report said harassment not involving violence was up 81 percent above the average for all years since 1989, when the council began compiling figures.

The report also said anti-Semitic graffiti was up 30 percent.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041205/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_jews

Rather then start a new thread, I posted this here. As it some what fits in........ :P

Resting in the Lord's arms.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 06, 2004, 11:56:11 AM
Hamas Rejects Cease-fire with Israel
Sun Dec 5, 2004 08:40 AM ET
   
By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - Hamas ruled out any truce with Israel Sunday and repeated its desire to destroy the Jewish state, rejecting what had appeared to be more conciliatory comments by one of the Islamic militant group's leaders.

"There is no talk about a truce now at all," Mahmoud Al-Zahar, a top Hamas leader, told reporters.

"Our strategy is to liberate all Palestinian soil," Zahar said, referring to the West Bank, Gaza and Israel.

Hassan Youssef, the top Hamas official in the West Bank, said Friday the group could accept creation of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza and a long-term truce with Israel, signaling a possible new overture to end hostilities.

Palestine Liberation Organization leader Mahmoud Abbas has been trying to persuade militant groups to halt attacks against Israel to smooth the path of a presidential election on Jan. 9 to succeed Yasser Arafat, who died last month.

Hamas has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and attacks. Palestinian officials are worried further assaults could provoke Israeli retaliation and disrupt the presidential election, the first since 1996.

Zahar said that although Hamas would boycott the presidential vote, it would consider taking part in the Palestinian legislative election, scheduled for the spring.

"Our will to participate in the election is a national demand after the longstanding system of corruption affected the national goal, the internal integrity of the Palestinian people," Zahar said.

In 1996, Hamas boycotted presidential and legislative elections, citing its opposition to interim Israeli-Palestinian peace accords.

Hamas expressed interest in joining the Fatah-controlled Palestinian government after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon unveiled his plan to withdraw from Gaza in 2005. Zahar said the group had already begun talks with Fatah over Gaza's future.

Israel, fearing a militant takeover of the territory after the pullout, had pushed for Egypt to train Palestinian security officers to maintain control of it.

Hamas and other militant groups have grown in popularity, especially in Gaza, since the start of the uprising against Israel in September 2000.

Zahar, who survived an Israeli assassination attempt last year, said Abbas would meet Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal in Syria. Abbas is due in Damascus later in the day to meet President Bashar al-Assad.

© Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=6996536


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 06, 2004, 02:32:44 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

There appears to be some common denominators in many of the posts and articles: The world hates Israel, and the world hates America for supporting Israel.

George Bush didn't start the world hating America. That was started and grew in the 50s and 60s. However, the hatred did intensify recently with the global war against terrorism. The hatred also increased with the statements of faith by George Bush. We should all know that the world is not happy to hear anything about God or Jesus.

Tell me if you think that I'm mistaken, there also appears to be a growing isolation of Israel and the US. It appears to be many years of hard and careful work by many around the world, long before George Bush took office. He's just a convenient scapegoat, especially because of his faith in Jesus.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Proverbs 16:3  Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on December 06, 2004, 02:54:38 PM
Tom....I agree.

Also, keep a sharp eye out for a sudden escalation in "end-time" events.
As of today, Hamas has said it will accept the right of Jews for their own state, and Egypt has suddenly thawed out its relations with Israel.

A lot of the players are moving into the sphere of politics that will cause many in Israel to say "peace-peace", when there is none. This is the kind of thing (imo) that will end up with Israel having their guard down just a little, and suddenly the nations will rise up against them....and when that happens........ ;D

Time to fly!!

(http://www.john812.com/img/igotit.gif)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: xaoz on December 06, 2004, 07:21:54 PM
i also agree.  we know we are doing something 'right' if we are persecuted.  the devil leaves us alone if we're doing nothing against him.  praise the Lord for our president!  
i don't believe there is any prophecy left to be fulfilled that would keep Jesus from returning for his church. only the grace that hopes yet another would be saved.   i believe it was on this site that i read info regarding the EU Supreme Foreign Minister Javier Solana?  hmmm.  an elderly pastor we used to have also thought that the old european dynasty of the Hapsburgs would possibly have something to do with the 'end of days'.  anyone heard things of this nature recently?


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 06, 2004, 07:40:08 PM
Hamas Deputy Vows Continuing Resistance
Dec 5, 7:14 PM (ET)
By ALBERT AJI

(AP) Mousa Abu Marzouk, a leader of the Palestinian militant Islamic Hamas group, in an interview with...

CHTOURA, Lebanon (AP) - A senior Hamas official expressed hope Sunday that the United States and European Union would be "fairer" in mediating the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but he said his group would continue its resistance even if a Palestinian state was established.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy head of Hamas' political bureau, told The Associated Press a Palestinian state was a right "stipulated by all international accords" but was not a reason for Hamas to stop its resistance.

"There are other rights for the Palestinian people that cannot be forgotten or be conceded," Abu Marzouk said without elaborating.

Hamas refuses to accept Israel's right to exist, and it rejected late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's peace accords with the Jewish state.

Abu Marzouk said comments Friday by Sheik Hassan Yousef, Hamas' top leader in the West Bank, did not amount to a truce with Israel.

Yousef told the AP he sees a long-term truce in which Israel and a Palestinian state "live side-by-side in peace and security for a certain period."

In the past, Hamas has said it would accept a Palestinian state in the pre-1967 borders as a first step to taking over Israel.

The militant group, regarded by the United States as a terrorist movement and responsible for multiple suicide attacks killing scores of Israelis, is one of numerous militant factions Palestinian leaders want brought on board in the post-Arafat era to push efforts to achieve Palestinian statehood.

Abu Marzouk, speaking to the AP in Chtoura, near the Syrian border, on his way back home to the Syrian capital of Damascus, said he hoped the United States would adopt a more fair policy toward the Palestinians following Arafat's death last month.

"The U.S. is a superpower and a very influential factor in the region," he said. "We hope it will be fairer to the Palestinian people than ever before. We hope it will listen to the oppressed Palestinian people at this stage."

Abu Marzouk also said the EU should play a bigger role in mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "provided that the European visions would be independent from those of America."

Abu Marzouk confirmed that interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is scheduled to visit Damascus on Monday, had asked to meet with Hamas leaders, but he said no date had been set.

Abu Marzouk said Hamas had differences with Abbas over the Palestinian presidential elections set for Jan. 9. The group declared it would boycott the vote, and Abu Marzouk said Hamas would not participate in any future Palestinian government.

"We demanded that a timetable and schedule be set for municipal and legislative elections as well in order for the elections to be more disciplined and for the Palestinian people's will not to be falsified," Abu Marzouk said.

He accused the PLO's mainstream Fatah movement of "trying to grab power" through the elections.

"We think this is not an appropriate behavior for the upcoming stage. That's why we will boycott the elections," he said.

He said there were disagreements with Abbas over his vision and policy, "and we think that he must listen to the Palestinians' pulse and to all Palestinian factions."

"We want the leadership to express the aspirations and ambitions of the Palestinian people and their uprising and resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands," Abu Marzouk said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041206/D86PQ90G0.html


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Symphony on December 06, 2004, 08:08:34 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

There appears to be some common denominators in many of the posts and articles: The world hates Israel, and the world hates America for supporting Israel.

George Bush didn't start the world hating America. That was started and grew in the 50s and 60s. However, the hatred did intensify recently with the global war against terrorism. The hatred also increased with the statements of faith by George Bush. We should all know that the world is not happy to hear anything about God or Jesus.

Tell me if you think that I'm mistaken, there also appears to be a growing isolation of Israel and the US. It appears to be many years of hard and careful work by many around the world, long before George Bush took office. He's just a convenient scapegoat, especially because of his faith in Jesus.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Proverbs 16:3  Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.


    :)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 06, 2004, 11:20:13 PM
Hamas Deputy Vows Continuing Resistance
Dec 5, 7:14 PM (ET)
By ALBERT AJI

(AP) Mousa Abu Marzouk, a leader of the Palestinian militant Islamic Hamas group, in an interview with...

CHTOURA, Lebanon (AP) - A senior Hamas official expressed hope Sunday that the United States and European Union would be "fairer" in mediating the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but he said his group would continue its resistance even if a Palestinian state was established.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy head of Hamas' political bureau, told The Associated Press a Palestinian state was a right "stipulated by all international accords" but was not a reason for Hamas to stop its resistance.

"There are other rights for the Palestinian people that cannot be forgotten or be conceded," Abu Marzouk said without elaborating.

Hamas refuses to accept Israel's right to exist, and it rejected late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's peace accords with the Jewish state.

Abu Marzouk said comments Friday by Sheik Hassan Yousef, Hamas' top leader in the West Bank, did not amount to a truce with Israel.

Yousef told the AP he sees a long-term truce in which Israel and a Palestinian state "live side-by-side in peace and security for a certain period."

In the past, Hamas has said it would accept a Palestinian state in the pre-1967 borders as a first step to taking over Israel.

The militant group, regarded by the United States as a terrorist movement and responsible for multiple suicide attacks killing scores of Israelis, is one of numerous militant factions Palestinian leaders want brought on board in the post-Arafat era to push efforts to achieve Palestinian statehood.

Abu Marzouk, speaking to the AP in Chtoura, near the Syrian border, on his way back home to the Syrian capital of Damascus, said he hoped the United States would adopt a more fair policy toward the Palestinians following Arafat's death last month.

"The U.S. is a superpower and a very influential factor in the region," he said. "We hope it will be fairer to the Palestinian people than ever before. We hope it will listen to the oppressed Palestinian people at this stage."

Abu Marzouk also said the EU should play a bigger role in mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "provided that the European visions would be independent from those of America."

Abu Marzouk confirmed that interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is scheduled to visit Damascus on Monday, had asked to meet with Hamas leaders, but he said no date had been set.

Abu Marzouk said Hamas had differences with Abbas over the Palestinian presidential elections set for Jan. 9. The group declared it would boycott the vote, and Abu Marzouk said Hamas would not participate in any future Palestinian government.

"We demanded that a timetable and schedule be set for municipal and legislative elections as well in order for the elections to be more disciplined and for the Palestinian people's will not to be falsified," Abu Marzouk said.

He accused the PLO's mainstream Fatah movement of "trying to grab power" through the elections.

"We think this is not an appropriate behavior for the upcoming stage. That's why we will boycott the elections," he said.

He said there were disagreements with Abbas over his vision and policy, "and we think that he must listen to the Palestinians' pulse and to all Palestinian factions."

"We want the leadership to express the aspirations and ambitions of the Palestinian people and their uprising and resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands," Abu Marzouk said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041206/D86PQ90G0.html


I am seeing conflicting reports about this DW.  I'm not sure which story to believe.   It seems likely that Hamas is broken up into factions, and only the hard core factions are insisting on resistance?   Syria as well as Egypt appear to be making peace overtures to Israel....(although I don't trust them)  To me it seem obvious none of them want Israel to exist, but the different groups are of seperate minds as to how they will fulfill their ultimate goal of destroying Israel.   By false peace, or bitter resistance?   I think from scripture we know who which factions will wind up falling in line with the AC.   Those who pretend to want peace.  

Like Tom says, America and Israel are becoming obsticles for the rest of the worlds agenda.   I look for the EU to continue its crusade of uniting as many nations as it can via the European neighborhood policy in an attempt to isolate both Israel and America.   In the mean time, I don't expect any lasting peace deals to be brokered between these nations.   That IMO would undercut the problems the AC would need to implement his peace deal (which might even be the ENP...who knows?).   They will try and try, but eventually the AC will come on the scene to rescue all their failings.  While I have an idea, I'm still not sure who that man is, but I think he's alive and watching current events just like we are today, awaiting his time.   Like Evangelists says, all these manueverings are just fine tunings.   This last wave has been a doozy of a wave.   The next wave should be closer and more intense.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 06, 2004, 11:47:16 PM
Hamas Deputy Vows Continuing Resistance
Dec 5, 7:14 PM (ET)
By ALBERT AJI

(AP) Mousa Abu Marzouk, a leader of the Palestinian militant Islamic Hamas group, in an interview with...

CHTOURA, Lebanon (AP) - A senior Hamas official expressed hope Sunday that the United States and European Union would be "fairer" in mediating the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but he said his group would continue its resistance even if a Palestinian state was established.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy head of Hamas' political bureau, told The Associated Press a Palestinian state was a right "stipulated by all international accords" but was not a reason for Hamas to stop its resistance.

"There are other rights for the Palestinian people that cannot be forgotten or be conceded," Abu Marzouk said without elaborating.

Hamas refuses to accept Israel's right to exist, and it rejected late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's peace accords with the Jewish state.

Abu Marzouk said comments Friday by Sheik Hassan Yousef, Hamas' top leader in the West Bank, did not amount to a truce with Israel.

Yousef told the AP he sees a long-term truce in which Israel and a Palestinian state "live side-by-side in peace and security for a certain period."

In the past, Hamas has said it would accept a Palestinian state in the pre-1967 borders as a first step to taking over Israel.

The militant group, regarded by the United States as a terrorist movement and responsible for multiple suicide attacks killing scores of Israelis, is one of numerous militant factions Palestinian leaders want brought on board in the post-Arafat era to push efforts to achieve Palestinian statehood.

Abu Marzouk, speaking to the AP in Chtoura, near the Syrian border, on his way back home to the Syrian capital of Damascus, said he hoped the United States would adopt a more fair policy toward the Palestinians following Arafat's death last month.

"The U.S. is a superpower and a very influential factor in the region," he said. "We hope it will be fairer to the Palestinian people than ever before. We hope it will listen to the oppressed Palestinian people at this stage."

Abu Marzouk also said the EU should play a bigger role in mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "provided that the European visions would be independent from those of America."

Abu Marzouk confirmed that interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is scheduled to visit Damascus on Monday, had asked to meet with Hamas leaders, but he said no date had been set.

Abu Marzouk said Hamas had differences with Abbas over the Palestinian presidential elections set for Jan. 9. The group declared it would boycott the vote, and Abu Marzouk said Hamas would not participate in any future Palestinian government.

"We demanded that a timetable and schedule be set for municipal and legislative elections as well in order for the elections to be more disciplined and for the Palestinian people's will not to be falsified," Abu Marzouk said.

He accused the PLO's mainstream Fatah movement of "trying to grab power" through the elections.

"We think this is not an appropriate behavior for the upcoming stage. That's why we will boycott the elections," he said.

He said there were disagreements with Abbas over his vision and policy, "and we think that he must listen to the Palestinians' pulse and to all Palestinian factions."

"We want the leadership to express the aspirations and ambitions of the Palestinian people and their uprising and resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands," Abu Marzouk said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041206/D86PQ90G0.html


I am seeing conflicting reports about this DW.  I'm not sure which story to believe.   It seems likely that Hamas is broken up into factions, and only the hard core factions are insisting on resistance?   Syria as well as Egypt appear to be making peace overtures to Israel....(although I don't trust them)  To me it seem obvious none of them want Israel to exist, but the different groups are of seperate minds as to how they will fulfill their ultimate goal of destroying Israel.   By false peace, or bitter resistance?   I think from scripture we know who which factions will wind up falling in line with the AC.   Those who pretend to want peace.  

Like Tom says, America and Israel are becoming obsticles for the rest of the worlds agenda.   I look for the EU to continue its crusade of uniting as many nations as it can via the European neighborhood policy in an attempt to isolate both Israel and America.   In the mean time, I don't expect any lasting peace deals to be brokered between these nations.   That IMO would undercut the problems the AC would need to implement his peace deal (which might even be the ENP...who knows?).   They will try and try, but eventually the AC will come on the scene to rescue all their failings.  While I have an idea, I'm still not sure who that man is, but I think he's alive and watching current events just like we are today, awaiting his time.   Like Evangelists says, all these manueverings are just fine tunings.   This last wave has been a doozy of a wave.   The next wave should be closer and more intense.

Grace and Peace!
I believe that Hamas is splintering into groups, 2T. I wouldn't trust Syria, to a lesser degree Egypt. I know that Egypt will attack Israel again though.

The EU, now that a team worth watching. I wouldn't trust them at all. I would imagine that they are behind, some of the hate we are seeing. This last wave has been a doozy okay. The next bunch should be closer, more intense and one we should keep an eye on!

Get ready to fly..................... when that happens, I would imagine.

Resting in the Lord's arms.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 07, 2004, 01:59:04 PM

Egypt heralds Mideast peace 'breakthrough'

CAIRO (AFP) - Egypt raised the prospect of a framework for a Middle East peace deal and said it could soon return an ambassador to Israel, a move that would revive full diplomatic ties after a four-year break.


Quoting "high-level" Egyptian sources, state news agency MENA said key players in the search for peace have reached understanding on a plan that could lead to a comprehensive settlement.


"An important understanding that could constitute an agreement in principle has been reached by Egypt, Israel, the Palestinians and the significant international parties -- the United States and the European Union (news - web sites) -- on a comprehensive solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict," MENA said.

entire story here @ yahoo (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041207/wl_mideast_afp/mideast_egypt_israel_041207173324)

This seems more relevant to Egypt/Israel if I understand it right.   However, it still brings us one step closer to the covenant with many.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 07, 2004, 03:12:24 PM
I'm seeing a lot of this breaking on the news wires everywhere.   Very interesting!



Palestinians, Israel Back Peace Plan

25 minutes ago   World - Reuters
 

By Edmund Blair

CAIRO (Reuters) - Palestinians and Israelis have agreed in principle to proposals aiming to end their conflict, Egypt's official news agency MENA reported Tuesday.

   

Quoting unidentified high-level sources, it said the steps, including an Israeli-Palestinian cease-fire, had the support of both the United States and the European Union (news - web sites).


A senior Israeli official said it had no objection to a cease-fire if Palestinians stopped attacks.


Palestinian officials said there was still no agreement between the Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) and the Islamic militant group Hamas on a cease-fire, but officials said both sides have been holding talks in Gaza and were close to an understanding.


Egypt has long sought to mediate between the two sides during the four-year-old Palestinian uprising. Since the death of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), analysts say Egypt has sought to revive peace talks to test Israeli and U.S. commitments to the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.

entire article : yahoo news (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20041207/wl_nm/mideast_egypt_dc)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 07, 2004, 03:17:14 PM
Heres another from Israel...


 
Last Update: 07/12/2004 21:30
 
Israel, PA said to have agreed on basis of peace deal  

By Haaretz Service and agencies
 
Palestinians and Israelis have agreed in principle to proposals which could serve as the basis of a comprehensive settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conmflict, Egypt's official news agency MENA said on Tuesday.

Quoting unidentified high-level sources, it said the steps, including an Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire, had the support of both the United States and the European Union.

Israel termed the report "a little premature," but said it would respond positively if militants ceased attacks.

"There are a few correct elements but it's a little premature to say there's an agreement," a senior official in Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office said. "We will respond positively if on the other side there will be arrangements for a ceasefire, a cessation of hostilities."


entire story : http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/511355.html

Hmmm ???  Still seems wrought with problems, but Interesting non the less.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on December 07, 2004, 05:21:34 PM
And the players are all coming into place.....

who's pulling the strings?
(http://www.john812.com/img/puppetmaster.gif)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 07, 2004, 09:30:29 PM
The more I think about these proclamations of peace between Israel and Egypt, the more I think its all smoke and mirrors.  Right now Egypt is the only claiming a break through, meanwhile Israel says its waiting for a crack down on the terror groups.   My feeling is (right now anyways) that this is not a real meaningful peace deal.   Seems more like Egypt just wants to brag a little.

I think the AC himself will claim a big victory (much the way Egypt is doing now) when the false peace really arrives, and it will be viewed world-wide as significant.   Still interesting to watch the world thirst for peace in this region, but I am skeptical this one thing will lead to anything significant.  I still believe the REAL deal will come from the EU lead by a powerful leader after all the efforts being tried now fail.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 08, 2004, 12:56:25 AM
The more I think about these proclamations of peace between Israel and Egypt, the more I think its all smoke and mirrors.  Right now Egypt is the only claiming a break through, meanwhile Israel says its waiting for a crack down on the terror groups.   My feeling is (right now anyways) that this is not a real meaningful peace deal.   Seems more like Egypt just wants to brag a little.

Grace and Peace!
Dec. 8, 2004 1:25
Israel downplays Egyptian talk of new peace deal
By TOVAH LAZAROFF

Israeli officials played down reports from Egypt Tuesday night of a dramatic Middle East peace breakthrough, but confirmed that progress was being made in behind-the-scenes negotiations.

Egypt's official Middle East News Agency claimed late Tuesday that Cairo has reached a framework understanding with Israel, the Palestinians, the United States and Europe on principles to settle the entire Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

A source in the Prime Minister's Office said he could not confirm reports in the Egyptian media. There are, however, he said, "elements that are true."

As long as it is quiet, "Israel will not initiate any military action," he said. "We will respond positively if on the other side there are arrangements for a cease-fire, a cessation of hostilities."

But he was quick to add that no initiative is going to substitute for the road map to peace or for the Palestinian obligation to stop terrorism and to make reforms.

Palestinian officials responded, too, that talk of so widespread a deal was premature.

PA Negotiations Minister Saeb Erekat said that, "The Palestinians have always devoted every effort to ending the cycle of violence between the two peoples."

Quoting unnamed high-level sources, MENA said the understanding could stand as a "principle agreement" that includes a general framework of steps toward a settlement.

It said the points include an agreement on a cease-fire, in which the "new Palestinian Authority" would end the operations against Israel and prove its control over the situation in Gaza and the West Bank."

Egypt also said that it could soon return its ambassador to Israel, according to MENA.

With a presidential election to replace Yasser Arafat scheduled for January 9, new Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has been trying to persuade terrorist groups to cease attacks against Israel. Egypt has also been involved in the truce efforts.

"It should be understood that whatever arrangement is reached, this is not a substitute for fulfilling the obligations the Palestinians have taken upon themselves under the road map," the Israeli official said.

Last week, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon assured Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit and chief of intelligence Omar Suleiman that Israel would "adopt certain measures to maintain self-confidence building to open the road before a settlement."

MENA said Sharon also assured the Egyptian delegation that Israel "does not want to leave the deteriorated situation to lead to a Palestinian civil war" and that he promised to release some frozen Palestinian money and relieve measures concerning the movement of the Palestinians.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1102432932796

Looks like you may be right, 2T.

Resting in the Lord's arms.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 08, 2004, 11:08:47 AM
Quote
Looks like you may be right, 2T.

I certainly don't wish to downplay whats happening.  Anytime I see a news story about peace in Israel, my ears perk up.   There is a verse in Daniel that makes me currious about whats happening though.


Dan 11:39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

My thought process about all this is, if others work out a two state deal between Israel and the Palestinians....what do we make of this verse?   Sounds to me like the AC will be the one who makes the deal and profit from it.    No question everyone is lusting for a peace agreement over there....but this one verse makes me think all of them will fail until the AC steps in and claims miraculous break through deal.  I mean, if others can work out peace, wouldn't that undercut a need for a super leader to help out?   Maybe, maybe not, but thats how it looks to me.   I guess we will just have to watch and see what happens.

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on December 08, 2004, 12:09:56 PM
Quote
Looks like you may be right, 2T.

I certainly don't wish to downplay whats happening.  Anytime I see a news story about peace in Israel, my ears perk up.   There is a verse in Daniel that makes me currious about whats happening though.


Dan 11:39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

My thought process about all this is, if others work out a two state deal between Israel and the Palestinians....what do we make of this verse?   Sounds to me like the AC will be the one who makes the deal and profit from it.    No question everyone is lusting for a peace agreement over there....but this one verse makes me think all of them will fail until the AC steps in and claims miraculous break through deal.  I mean, if others can work out peace, wouldn't that undercut a need for a super leader to help out?   Maybe, maybe not, but thats how it looks to me.   I guess we will just have to watch and see what happens.

Grace and Peace!

That's the way it appears to me also. The AC will be the one doing the final deal, which gives him so much power in Israel as well as the world.

Consider this also (esp. the bolded part).
Dan 11:24
He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

The "fattest places" are, historically, considered to be the prime areas that were exclusive to nothing but the leaders. This would indicate that the Jews have accepted the AC as one of their leaders.  

The second part "which his fathers..." indicates to me that this person MAY be of Hebrew ancestry, which would also work in with being able to go into the "fat" places.

I'm willing to bet (not much, though....) that the Jews, as a result of the peace deal and saving their necks, along with being able to then rebuild the temple, etc., will declare the AC as "King Messiah", since he will be able to "fulfill" all the benchmarks that their eschatological system requires.

Could we be looking for a long lost branch of David (via Jeconiah)?


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 08, 2004, 12:12:53 PM
Israel to discuss growing role in NATO, EU
Conference to explore Jewish state's partnership with world bodies
Posted: December 7, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

NATO's recent invitation to the Israel Defense Forces to take part for the first time in multinational military exercises and participate in anti-terror activities has prompted Israel's most prestigious foreign affairs conference to explore ways the Jewish state can become an enhanced NATO member and forge stronger ties to Europe.

The four day Herzliya Conference, which begins Dec. 13 and is known to set the tone for future regional policies, will present ways Israel will participate in a new NATO alliance, including formalizing its membership status, Uzi Arad, former director of Mossad's intelligence division and chairman of the conference, told WorldNetDaily.

"Israel will be offering its model for an enhanced strategic relationship with NATO. The conference will include a group to discuss enhancement, including elevating Israel's status from a dialogue member to a custom made format tailored to Israel's standards and positions," said Arad.

Arad said Israel's formidable military force and its "good standing in our Western alliance should allow Israel greater participation in NATO. There are major commonalties of interest – defeating radical Islam and terrorism, democratization for the Middle East, and blunting nuclear proliferation, to name a few."

Israel last month joined a NATO military summit in Brussels with the participation of the chiefs of staff of 26 NATO members and countries that have ties with the organization. Israel was also invited to take part in certain NATO military exercises and participate in anti-terror activities such as patrols in the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

NATO plans to upgrade what it calls the "Mediterranean dialogue" it is conducting with Israel and six Muslim nations: Egypt, Jordan, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Mauretania. This includes policy discussions conducted by leaders of a higher rank, and joint military operations through coordinated military exercises on the war on terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, and joint planning for civilian disaster readiness.

There have also been talks NATO may send forces to the Gaza Strip after Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Gaza withdrawal plan is implemented next year if Israel and the Palestinian Authority ask for NATO's help.

Some in Israel have said a NATO presence in Gaza could hurt Israel by internationalizing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and hampering Israel's ability to conduct anti-terror operations in Gaza if they become necessary.

Arad said "NATO in Gaza could be a fault, but in the long term, when there is a need for force, NATO is preferable over the U.N. because NATO has the U.S. in it."

The conference is also set to discuss Israel's growing relationship with the European Union. Arad said although certain members of the EU, including France and Germany, have taken a consistently pro-Palestinian line, Israel still stands to gain much with an increased EU alliance.

"Yes, it is true there are many manifestations of anti-Semitism in Europe, and we have disagreements, but so do European countries disagree amongst themselves," said Arad. "Ultimately, Israel and the EU share basic cultural and value systems. We have the same enemies, same concerns."

"Many people don't realize Israel has quite an advanced working relationship with the EU, particularly in trade. Volumes of Israeli trade with Europe are greater than the entire Arab trade with Europe. And Europe is the beneficiary -- it exports much more to Israel than it receives."

The conference, in its fifth year, has been the site of several major policy speeches by Israeli leaders. Sharon last year announced at the conference his disengagement plan, and in 2002 detailed the U.S.-backed roadmap to peace. Arad said to expect similarly important diplomatic announcements this year, as well.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41807

Quote
Dan 11:39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
Tim to this I will add,
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

By the signing of a covenant of peace between Israel and her enemies, orchestrated by antichrist.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 08, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
Evangelist,

Brother Hank, that was an awesome graphic. The devil does appear to be pulling strings all over the world now.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 119:105  Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 08, 2004, 12:51:19 PM
Quote
Looks like you may be right, 2T.

I certainly don't wish to downplay whats happening.  Anytime I see a news story about peace in Israel, my ears perk up.   There is a verse in Daniel that makes me currious about whats happening though.


Dan 11:39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

My thought process about all this is, if others work out a two state deal between Israel and the Palestinians....what do we make of this verse?   Sounds to me like the AC will be the one who makes the deal and profit from it.    No question everyone is lusting for a peace agreement over there....but this one verse makes me think all of them will fail until the AC steps in and claims miraculous break through deal.  I mean, if others can work out peace, wouldn't that undercut a need for a super leader to help out?   Maybe, maybe not, but thats how it looks to me.   I guess we will just have to watch and see what happens.

Grace and Peace!

That's the way it appears to me also. The AC will be the one doing the final deal, which gives him so much power in Israel as well as the world.

Consider this also (esp. the bolded part).
Dan 11:24
He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

The "fattest places" are, historically, considered to be the prime areas that were exclusive to nothing but the leaders. This would indicate that the Jews have accepted the AC as one of their leaders.  

The second part "which his fathers..." indicates to me that this person MAY be of Hebrew ancestry, which would also work in with being able to go into the "fat" places.

I'm willing to bet (not much, though....) that the Jews, as a result of the peace deal and saving their necks, along with being able to then rebuild the temple, etc., will declare the AC as "King Messiah", since he will be able to "fulfill" all the benchmarks that their eschatological system requires.

Could we be looking for a long lost branch of David (via Jeconiah)?

Yes this does seem to fit right in there too.   Will be interesting to watch as the world wrestles with the burdensome stone.   Its certainly a complicated matter from a worldly viewpoint.

Quote
Tim to this I will add,
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

By the signing of a covenant of peace between Israel and her enemies, orchestrated by antichrist.

I agree DW!

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 09, 2004, 02:23:45 AM
Talk about conflicting reports, here is another.

Ambassador Wary of Peace Conference Idea
Dec 8, 4:57 PM (ET)
By SAM DOLNICK

NEW YORK (AP) - Israel's ambassador to the United States said Wednesday that an international peace conference reportedly suggested by Egypt could be "counterproductive," and should not be discussed until after the Palestinian election.

"Before we go into such an endeavor with a lot of fanfare, we have to make sure what the objectives are and what are the developments on the ground," Daniel Ayalon said during a round-table discussion.

"It could be counterproductive to hold it prematurely before we know who we negotiate with, and what are the policies of the newly elected leadership of the Palestinians."

Egypt's state-run news agency, MENA, reported Tuesday that Cairo planned to call for a July peace conference in Washington to include Israel, the Palestinians, the United States and the European Union.

Ayalon said Israel has not been approached to participate.

With the first Palestinian elections since the death of Yasser Arafat planned for next month, Ayalon said Palestinians face a stark choice.

"There are basically two ways that are being presented to the Palestinian people," he said, declining to discuss individual candidates. "One is the way of Hamas or Islamic Jihad which calls for the continued armed struggle, the continuation of the terror, and delegitimizing Israel.

"The other way, which is being presented for the first time in history, is 'Let's take control of our own destiny ... Let's do away with terror.'"

Polls show interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas in a tight race with Marwan Barghouti, who is serving five life terms in an Israeli prison for involvement in fatal Palestinian attacks.

Ayalon said Israel would not interfere in the election, but hopes a candidate promoting peace wins.

"We would like to see, of course, a new attitude, new policies and new practices, but it's not up to me, it's up to them to decide and we will know fairly soon which way they're going," he said.

His remarks came at a discussion sponsored by The Israel Project, a nonprofit group that works to improve Israel's image around the world. Ayalon was named ambassador in 2002 and has served in the last three Israeli administrations.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041208/D86RNHPG0.html


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 09, 2004, 02:30:06 AM

Israel to discuss growing role in NATO, EU
Conference to explore Jewish state's partnership with world bodies
December 7, 2004
By Aaron Klein
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

NATO's recent invitation to the Israel Defense Forces to take part for the first time in multinational military exercises and participate in anti-terror activities has prompted Israel's most prestigious foreign affairs conference to explore ways the Jewish state can become an enhanced NATO member and forge stronger ties to Europe.

The four day Herzliya Conference, which begins Dec. 13 and is known to set the tone for future regional policies, will present ways Israel will participate in a new NATO alliance, including formalizing its membership status, Uzi Arad, former director of Mossad's intelligence division and chairman of the conference, told WorldNetDaily.

"Israel will be offering its model for an enhanced strategic relationship with NATO. The conference will include a group to discuss enhancement, including elevating Israel's status from a dialogue member to a custom made format tailored to Israel's standards and positions," said Arad.

Arad said Israel's formidable military force and its "good standing in our Western alliance should allow Israel greater participation in NATO. There are major commonalties of interest – defeating radical Islam and terrorism, democratization for the Middle East, and blunting nuclear proliferation, to name a few."

Israel last month joined a NATO military summit in Brussels with the participation of the chiefs of staff of 26 NATO members and countries that have ties with the organization. Israel was also invited to take part in certain NATO military exercises and participate in anti-terror activities such as patrols in the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

NATO plans to upgrade what it calls the "Mediterranean dialogue" it is conducting with Israel and six Muslim nations: Egypt, Jordan, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Mauretania. This includes policy discussions conducted by leaders of a higher rank, and joint military operations through coordinated military exercises on the war on terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, and joint planning for civilian disaster readiness.

There have also been talks NATO may send forces to the Gaza Strip after Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Gaza withdrawal plan is implemented next year if Israel and the Palestinian Authority ask for NATO's help.

Some in Israel have said a NATO presence in Gaza could hurt Israel by internationalizing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and hampering Israel's ability to conduct anti-terror operations in Gaza if they become necessary.

Arad said "NATO in Gaza could be a fault, but in the long term, when there is a need for force, NATO is preferable over the U.N. because NATO has the U.S. in it."

The conference is also set to discuss Israel's growing relationship with the European Union. Arad said although certain members of the EU, including France and Germany, have taken a consistently pro-Palestinian line, Israel still stands to gain much with an increased EU alliance.

"Yes, it is true there are many manifestations of anti-Semitism in Europe, and we have disagreements, but so do European countries disagree amongst themselves," said Arad. "Ultimately, Israel and the EU share basic cultural and value systems. We have the same enemies, same concerns."

"Many people don't realize Israel has quite an advanced working relationship with the EU, particularly in trade. Volumes of Israeli trade with Europe are greater than the entire Arab trade with Europe. And Europe is the beneficiary -- it exports much more to Israel than it receives."

The conference, in its fifth year, has been the site of several major policy speeches by Israeli leaders. Sharon last year announced at the conference his disengagement plan, and in 2002 detailed the U.S.-backed roadmap to peace. Arad said to expect similarly important diplomatic announcements this year, as well.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41807


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 09, 2004, 05:17:51 AM
Members of Reestablished Sanhedrin Ascend Temple Mount
23:26 Dec 08, '04 / 25 Kislev 5765
 
In a dramatic but unpublicized move Monday, members of the newly established Sanhedrin ascended the Temple Mount, Judaism’s holiest site.  

Close to fifty recently ordained “samuchim,” members of the Sanhedrin, lined up at the foot of the Temple Mount Monday morning. The men, many ascending the Temple Mount for the first time, had immersed in mikvaot (ritual baths) that morning and planned to ascend as a group. Despite prior approval from the Israeli police who oversee entry to the Mount, the officers barred the group from entering the Mount together, saying they could only ascend in groups of ten.
 
SNIP....

“We Jews went into exiles all over the world,” HaLevi told INR’s Weekend Edition. “Every community established its own court. We are talking about more than 50 different legal systems developing apart from one another. Part of our return to Israel is the reunification of our Jewish practices.”

There is a tradition (Tractate Megillah 17b, Rashi) that the Sanhedrin will be restored after a partial ingathering of the Jewish exiles, but before Jerusalem is completely rebuilt and restored. There is also a Talmudic tradition (Eruvin 43b; Maharatz Chajas ad loc; Rashash , Sanhedrin 13b) that Elijah the Prophet will present himself before a duly-ordained Sanhedrin when he announces the coming of the Messiah, meaning that – despite common misconceptions - a Sanhedrin is a pre-, not post-messianic institution.




WOW!!!!  This is getting very exciting!!!

entire story here: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=73311


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 09, 2004, 03:53:03 PM
Dec. 8, 2004 23:41
European leaders: 'There is certainly no reason to panic'
By DANIEL KENNEMER

A comment by former Ashkenazi chief rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau that he sees no future for European Jewry drew mixed reactions from the Jewish communities of Western Europe.

"There is no future for European Jewry," Lau told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday following a two-month tour of the continent, spent visiting Jewish communities in Austria, Britain, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands.

"I see the end of the exile for European Jewry... Israel has to prepare itself for European aliya," Lau said.

Jewish community leaders within Europe are not so sure.

A mob of teens yelling "Croak, dirty Jew!" on the main pedestrian mall of Lille, in northern France, upset Rabbi Eliahou Dahan, but did not scare him into leaving France, he said.

Dahan admitted that "on one hand, we are clearly very concerned by the rise of anti-Semitism in France and Europe as a whole."

On the other hand, he went on, "we are witnessing phenomenal growth in terms of Jewish schools, kosher restaurants, and other aspects of Jewish religious and secular life, and a true resurgence of Jewish identity, stronger than before."

Dahan, speaking by telephone from Lille, painted a picture of a flourishing community and warned against getting carried away by exaggerations.

"Certainly, our ancestors and grandparents had much more difficult lives than we do today. Today we are better organized and equipped, more conscious. We have a young generation that asks questions," Dahan said.

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1102475930082&apage=2

Yes Tim, this is getting very exciting!!! We are watching as prophecy unfolds.

Resting with the Lord.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 10, 2004, 01:32:46 PM
Israel may be part of wider Europe
Herb Keinon and AP,
THE JERUSALEM POST    
Dec. 9, 2004

The European Union said Thursday Israel is among seven nations who will be part of its new European Neighborhood policy, even though the Foreign Ministry said Israel has not yet formally agreed to the EU's "action plan" for membership.

This program offers free access to goods, services, people and capital to countries neighboring the European Union in exchange for economic and political reform on a country-by-country basis.

Israel has been negotiating its terms of entrance for months, with the talks stuck for weeks on one section dealing with weapons of mass destruction.

EU External Affairs Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner said at a press conference in Brussels launching the new program that through this agreement Israel acknowledges "the need to take into account the viability of a future Palestinian state in counter-terrorist activities."

A Foreign Minister spokesman said that Israel will finally have to decide on whether to accept the plan before Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom attends the Israel-EU Association Council meeting Monday where the plan will be brought for approval.

The EU-Israel neighborhood agreement also means that "Israel clearly acknowledges the role of the EU in the Quartet" that has written the "road map" to a peace plan that is to lead to a Palestinian state. Initially, the Israelis balked at references to the role of the so-called Quartet of Mideast peacemakers.

"Israel has never been willing to make such commitments in writing to any other partner. The same applies to the commitments Israel has entered into concerning" the nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction, Ferrero-Waldner added.

The "European Neighborhood" accords with Moldova, Ukraine, Morocco, Tunisia, Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian Authority are aimed at making Europe more secure by bringing stability and prosperity to volatile regions.

The Ukraine accord is to be implemented once it is clear a presidential election to be rerun December 26 are free and fair, putting an end to the country's political crisis, said Ferrero-Waldner.

She said she planned to visit Kiev after the vote to see "how we can work together" to put Ukraine's neighborhood accord into effect.
The EU plans to have "neighborhood" accords next year with Egypt, Lebanon, Armenia, Azerbaij and Georgia.

Ferrero-Waldner told reporters the agreements will create "a ring of friends around the borders of our enlarged EU" that took in Cyprus, Malta and eight ex-communist East European nations on May 1.

She said the neighbors will qualify for easy access to the EU's 450 million consumers, "the biggest single market in the world," if they bring their laws in line with EU rules and regulations.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1102601523688&p=1078113566627


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 10, 2004, 05:38:25 PM
JNW HEADLINE NEWS
Abbas again insists on right to destroy Israel
By Jerusalem Newswire Editorial Staff
December 10th, 2004

JERUSALEM - PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas has again insisted on the right to flood Israel with millions of Arabs labeled as “Palestinian” refugees, and by doing so demographically destroy the Jewish state.

“All Palestinian refugees must have the right to return to Palestine [sic] in line with UN Resolution 194,” Abbas told the Beirut Daily Star in an interview on Thursday. [Translation of the interview was provided by IMRA.]

This right "is not an issue for debate" and "is a common goal" of all Palestinian Arab factions, said Abbas, who is also known as Abu Mazen.

In its response to the interview, the Zionist Organization of America pointed out UN resolution 194 falls under Chapter VI of the world body’s charter, making it a recommendation rather than a legally binding decree.

Hailed by the West as a “moderate,” the PA presidential election frontrunner first indicated he was unwilling to compromise on the “right of return” during speech to the “Palestinian” parliament on November 23.

“We promise you [Yasser Arafat] that our heart will not rest until we achieve the right of return for our people and end the tragic refugee issue,” Abbas said during a memorial parliamentary session for the deceased arch-terrorist.

During a 1998 seminar at Al-Najah University in Shechem, senior Fatah Central Committee member Sakher Habash admitted the true meaning of the “right of return” for the “Palestinian” cause.

“To us, the refugees issue is the winning card which means the end of the Israeli state,” Habash said.

Habash recognized that for this reason alone Israel had refused to even consider a “Palestinian” right of return.

Abbas is Fatah’s candidate in the upcoming January 9 PA election.

http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=378


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 11, 2004, 07:02:12 AM
Dec. 10, 2004 2:11
'Disengagement' out, 'leaving Gaza' in
By HERB KEINON

Say good-bye disengagement; hello to the plan to leave Gaza.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who since last December has referred to his initiative to move out of Gaza and four northern Samarian settlements as the "unilateral disengagement plan," suddenly opted for the more unwieldy "plan to leave Gaza" in Thursday morning radio interviews.

Sharon – who unlike his predecessors Ehud Barak and Binyamin Netanyahu rarely gives phone-in radio interviews – said "the plan to leave Gaza has many benefits." The prime minister, who used the interviews to drum up support for his proposal to widen the coalition, referred to the plan in this new manner a number of times.

Such changes in Sharon's lexicon are not deemed accidental.

One Foreign Ministry official, asked to interpret the slight but obvious shift, suggested it indicates Sharon no longer sees the plan as unilateral, and that with Yasser Arafat's death and a new wind blowing from Egypt, "disengagement" is becoming less one-sided and evolving into a "plan to leave Gaza" coordinated with the Egyptians and a soon-to-be-elected Palestinian leadership.

Sources in the Prime Minister's Office denied the semantic change had any diplomatic overtones, but did admit it had political ones.

One senior official explained that the new name has fewer negative connotations for the Likud rank-and-file than the word "disengagement." This in itself is not without irony, since "disengagement" was a term chosen in order to avoid using the word "withdrawal," which has even worse connotations.

Still, the official said, "disengagement" conjures up images of settlements being removed. The "plan to leave Gaza," by contrast, is designed to drive home an idea that many in the Likud have come to accept – the need to leave Gaza.

The new name also places limits on the scope of the proposal. "Unilateral disengagement" is an open-ended phrase, and doesn't precisely define what is being discussed. It leaves open the idea that Gaza is just the first step of a process that will lead to the ultimate removal of many, perhaps most, West Bank settlements.

The "plan to leave Gaza," on the other hand, is precise and clearly defined.

The official said Sharon will henceforth use the new name when addressing the Likud, but still use the old one in conversations with foreign officials and statesmen.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1102601525385


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 12, 2004, 04:53:17 PM
Barghouthi Quits Election Race, 4 Israelis Killed
10 minutes ago
Top Stories - Reuters
By Mohammed Assadi

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Jailed uprising leader Marwan Barghouthi on Sunday quit the race to replace late Palestinian President Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), ensuring a smooth election and making the victory of a veteran peacemaker almost certain.

But hopes of Middle East peace, raised since Arafat's death in Paris on Nov. 11, suffered a blow when militants burrowed under an Israeli post on the Gaza-Egypt border to kill four soldiers in the deadliest attack on the army for seven months.

The assault could also complicate Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites)'s plan to abandon occupied Gaza just as it gained momentum with talks on a new coalition to see it through.

Barghouthi's withdrawal from the race for the Jan. 9 election ended a bid that threatened to undermine Mahmoud Abbas, a U.S.-favored veteran leader who is expected to revive talks that foundered before the uprising started in 2000.

Barghouthi, a charismatic grassroots leader serving five life terms in an Israeli prison for orchestrating attacks, had more street appeal than Abbas, the official nominee of their Fatah (news - web sites) movement. The two were neck-and-neck in polls.

In the letter from his cell to announce that he was withdrawing, Barghouti called Abbas "a dear and good friend."

Even if Barghouthi had failed to win, a good enough showing could have discredited Abbas - especially when it came to trying to end violence and bring the militant factions under control.

The militants from Islamic faction Hamas and Abbas's own Fatah movement showed their muscle in the attack on the military post, burrowing underneath for 600 meters (yards) to set off a 1,500 kg bomb, then sending gunmen into the breach.

The blast tore through an army post at the Rafah crossing to Egypt, turning some buildings into a pile of rubble and setting others on fire.

After the blast, Palestinian gunmen charged toward the soldiers while militants pounded the position with mortar bombs.

"This was a very large and well coordinated attack," said army spokesman Captain Jacob Dallal.

Israeli officials said four soldiers died and nine others were wounded. One gunman was killed in the battle and another man was shot dead in the area soon after, Palestinians said.

The Fatah Hawks said it was avenging the "assassination" of Arafat, who is thought by many Palestinians to have been poisoned despite vehement denials from their own leaders and French doctors.

RESURGENT VIOLENCE

Sunday's attack looked certain to fuel a new round of bloodshed after a spell of relative call after Arafat's death.

"The only way to stop this cycle of violence is through a meaningful peace process," said Palestinian cabinet minister Saeb Erekat.

Israel has vowed to respond to violence, but said it could limit military operations if militants stop attacks and the new Palestinian leadership brings fighters under control.

   

"We are willing to display restraint, but I think it also puts a great pressure on the Palestinian leadership to take the necessary steps," said Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin.

Israel agreed on Sunday to free up to 200 Palestinian prisoners, partly to show goodwill ahead of the elections, and said more releases could follow if violence stopped.

Gissin said Israel could also coordinate its "disengagement plan" from Gaza if Palestinian leaders get tough on militants.

Palestinians remain deeply uneasy about Sharon's initiative, fearing it will cost them the West Bank. Palestinians want both territories captured in the 1967 Middle East war for a state.

Welcomed by Western countries as a step toward peace, the Gaza plan took a major step at the weekend as the center-left opposition Labour party started talks with Sharon's right-wing Likud on a government to champion withdrawal.

Sharon needs Labour to rebuild his shattered government, avert early elections and overcome rightist rebels opposed to withdrawing from any captured land as a "reward for terror."

Sharon wants to evacuate all the settlements in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) and four of 120 in the West Bank next year in a bid to "disengage" from fighting with the Palestinians. Polls show most Israelis want to part with impoverished Gaza.

(Additional reporting by Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza and Megan Goldin in Jerusalem)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041212/ts_nm/mideast_dc&e=1


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 13, 2004, 03:25:48 AM
Israel Takes Solana's Deal

This could be it ... the covenant with the many. And, it's being reported Israel has accepted it  Friends, for us at FulfilledProphecy, this is big, big news.

It's called the European Neighborhood Policy (ENP). As for now, it's only between the 25 European Union member states and seven non-member states. These seven states are Israel, Ukraine, Moldova, Morocco, Tunisia, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority.

The goal, however, is to extend this agreement to 10 more nations. These nations are Algeria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Egypt, Gorgia, Lebanon, Libya, Russia Federation and Syria. Like I've been reporting, this is literally a covenant with many. And, its author is the man I wrote my book about, Javier Solana.

Here's why this is important: You see, many times in my book I say, if these events I'm reporting are the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, then they will lead to a seven-year agreement with Israel. This agreement will be broken three and a half years later. I base this on Daniel 9:27 -- the passage Jesus was referring to in Matthew 24:15 and Paul was referring to in 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

Where do we find a seven-year period to Solana's ENP? Well, on January 1, 2007, the EU's new seven-year budget term will begin. At that time, all participating nations will come under a new funding instrument drawn up by Solana. It includes follow-up revaluation elements. This means, each nation will have an Action Plan they must implement if they want to continue in the agreement. Solana is also tasked with monitoring these nation's compliance. And, he's to report mid-term -- in two years and again in three.

Like I said, this could be it -- the covenant with many. Unfortunately, I suspect, because of the nature of this deal, it could enter into force on January 1, 2007, and no one will even notice.

But, why should that be a surprise? No one noticed when the Western European Union reached that magic number of 10 nations in 1995. No one noticed when the Office of High Representative was filled in 1999 by Solana, or when the 10 nation's implemented their Assembly Recommendation 666 in 2000. And, today, no one seems to be noticing that the EU's so-called "big three" -- Germany, France and Britain -- will have to be subdued for Solana to exercise the full powers of his Office.

So, why should anybody notice the beginning of the EU's next budget term in 2007?

I can't think of any reason.
http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/israel_takes_deal.html
http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=17950


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 13, 2004, 11:24:08 AM
I agree DW.    Its interesting that Israel is the only virtual member too  ;)    

Don't have the link at hand, but also the news about the newly re-formed Sanhedrin acsending the temple mount last Monday for the first time in 1,600 years is striking.   As Jesus spoke to them days before His crucifixion, He said to them....

Mat 23:39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Would not be possible for them to say this if they weren't around today.   Another piece of the puzzle is now in place!

Grace and Peace!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 13, 2004, 12:17:53 PM
Dreamweaver & 2 Timothy,

Great links and material!!

I'm ready!

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 Corinthians 2:9  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on December 13, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
Quote
I'm ready!

Things are happening at a stunning rate Tom!   Jesus is coming back very soon.  

If anyone reading here does not know the Lord, its time to get on your knee's and ask Him into your life.   Don't wait!   Today is the day of salvation.   Ask Him into your heart and know His Grace and Forgivness.  

Grace and Peace!


Title: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Brother Love on December 13, 2004, 01:21:09 PM
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I'm ready!

Things are happening at a stunning rate Tom!   Jesus is coming back very soon.  

If anyone reading here does not know the Lord, its time to get on your knee's and ask Him into your life.   Don't wait!   Today is the day of salvation.   Ask Him into your heart and know His Grace and Forgivness.  

Grace and Peace!

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AMEN!!!!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 13, 2004, 03:30:20 PM
Gaza Violence Dents Hopes of Middle East Peace

1 hour, 21 minutes ago
World - Reuters
By Matthew Tostevin

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) said on Monday that any peace talks with Palestinian leaders depended on whether they could rein in militants, who killed five Israeli soldiers in Gaza in an attack on Sunday.
 

The assault on an Israeli post between the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) and Egypt, the most lethal since Yasser Arafat (news - web sites)'s death a month ago, drew missile strikes in a swift reprisal and dimmed hopes for an end to decades of conflict in the post-Arafat era.

Despite its worst military loss in seven months, Israel said it still planned to pull back troops during Palestinian elections on Jan 9. to help ensure that they went smoothly.

But Sharon said any talks with Palestinian leaders would depend on a halt to attacks. Peace negotiations collapsed in 2000 shortly before Palestinians launched their uprising.

"Any development depends on the Palestinian leadership and its actions," he told visiting members of the U.S. Congress in Jerusalem. "We want to move forward toward peace, but at the moment we do not see any change among the Palestinians."

In Syria, officials blamed Israel for a Damascus car-bombing that almost killed an unnamed member of Hamas, one of the factions behind Sunday's raid. Israeli officials had no comment.

Sharon did not refer in his remarks directly to Mahmoud Abbas, the moderate and U.S.-favored Palestinian leader whose election as Arafat's successor was virtually assured after jailed uprising leader Marwan Barghouthi withdrew on Sunday.

Israel had ruled out talks with Arafat, accusing him of failing to stop attacks. He denied the accusation and complained that it was impossible to crack down on gunmen because Israel had destroyed Palestinian security forces.

Arafat's death in a Paris hospital on Nov 11. has raised hopes of talks, but optimists have been dealt a blow by the growing violence in Gaza -- an occupied territory that Israel plans to quit next year.

GROWING VIOLENCE

In Sunday's carefully planned attack, militants burrowed underneath an army post on the Egypt-Gaza border then set off a 1,500 kg (3,300 lb) bomb, turning buildings to rubble and killing five soldiers of a Bedouin Arab unit.

Israel struck back with helicopter missiles, cutting off power in Gaza City after they hit a generator. They also hit a metal foundry, which the army said was used to make weapons. In the West Bank, troops killed a Hamas gunman.

Israel Radio said top army officers had agreed to a major military response in Gaza in coming days.

But Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said that Israel would still try to ease conditions for Palestinians so that next month's presidential vote goes smoothly. He said troops would withdraw from Palestinian cities for 72 hours.

Abbas, 69, was ensured a clear run after firebrand Barghouthi pulled out on Sunday.

Barghouthi is serving five life terms in an Israeli jail for orchestrating attacks, but he has much more appeal on the street than Abbas and the two men had been even in opinion polls.

A good showing for Barghouthi -- even if he had lost -- could have undermined Abbas when it came to negotiating with Israel or cracking down on militant groups.

Abbas will have to deal quickly with Sharon's plan to quit Gaza. Western countries hail it as a step to peace, but Palestinians fear it will cost them the West Bank. Both territories were captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

Sharon wants to evacuate all the settlements in the Gaza Strip and four of 120 in the West Bank next year. Most Israelis want to part with impoverished Gaza, but Sharon faces opposition from rightists who say it would "reward terror."

(Additional reporting by Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza and Corinne Heller in Jerusalem)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20041213/wl_nm/mideast_dc


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 13, 2004, 09:00:58 PM
Israel to Renovate Crumbling Entrance to Disputed Holy Site in Jerusalem's Old City
Mon Dec 13,11:09 AM ET
Middle East - AP

JERUSALEM - Israel will renovate the crumbling entrance to a disputed holy site in Jerusalem's Old City that is revered by Jews and Muslims, officials said Monday.

The work will repair a stone ramp leading to a mosque compound. The ramp enables tourists and Jewish worshippers to enter the compound, which is known as Haram a Sharif to Muslims and the Temple Mount to Jews.

The mount is at the heart of the Israeli-Arab conflict. It is revered by Jews as the site of the biblical temples, while it is Islam's third-holiest site and home to the Al-Aqsa and Dome of the Rock mosques.

The ramp leads up from a plaza at the Western Wall, the holiest site to Jews, to the Mughrabi Gate of the compound. Last winter heavy rains caused the ramp to partially collapse onto the women's section at the Wall.

In light of the damage, the current ramp will be removed and a new entrance to the gate built, a spokesman for the Jerusalem Municipality said.

The Waqf, or Islamic Trust, which effectively controls the mosque compound at the site, did not immediately comment on the planned work. Palestinians have in the past reacted with angry riots to even minor changes at the mount.

Israel's Antiquities Authority will be involved in a dig at the site to uncover any artifacts before the new ramp is built, the Yediot Ahronot newspaper reported Monday. A spokeswoman for the authority did not immediately comment on the report.

Parts of the mount dating back to the seventh and eighth centuries are in major disrepair.

Israel warned in September that an eastern section of the mosque compound could collapse under the weight of thousands of Muslim worshippers expected during a holiday. The Waqf has since completed engineering work in the area to prevent its toppling.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=
10&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_holy_site

Now why does this sound so familiar?

Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 14, 2004, 01:44:21 AM
I'm wondering how I missed this.........

A Church after God’s Heart Grows in the Heart of Jerusalem
By Chris Mitchell
Middle East Bureau Chief
December 3, 2004

CBN.com – JERUSALEM - What happens in Jerusalem, whether it is political or spiritual, often attracts worldwide attention. That is why people from around the world came to Jerusalem to attend the recent dedication of a new church facility.

While building a new church facility in the U.S. is not unusual, building a new facility in the city of Jerusalem is unique. It is called The Pavilion, a new state-of-the-art facility, located in the heart of Jerusalem.

It is the new home of the King of Kings Assembly. Pastor Wayne Hilsden is the pastor. He said, "It's not just a building, but it actually declares that we believe in: the restoration of Israel. And what we did is take a dilapidated, broken-down ruin and began to restore it."

The physical restoration took place in a city known to Christians around the world for its tremendous spiritual warfare and for its enormous biblical significance, since Jerusalem is the city where the Bible says Jesus will come and establish his kingdom.

The groundbreaking project took 22 months to transform an abandoned movie theater, the largest in Jerusalem, into one of the most technologically advanced facilities in Israel.

The architecture even includes a ceiling meant to look like a prayer shawl. Hilsden calls the project a physical reflection of a spiritual truth. He said, "The restoration will also be a spiritual restoration. It's not only a restoration of the land, but a restoration to the Lord."

Pastor Jack Hayford of Church on the Way came to help dedicate the facility. "This is a place where demon darkness will be shattered,” Hayford said. “This is a place where chains of addiction will be broken. This is a place where bodies will be healed, a place where saved souls will receive the full empowerment of the Spirit, that will become agents of the Living God in this city and elsewhere in the world. This is a revival center. Hallelujah!"

While King of Kings met in a rented facility for years, now The Pavilion will be the spiritual home for hundreds of people living in Jerusalem. It is meant to serve the body of Messiah within Israel and around the world.

The financial commitment posed a huge challenge, but support came from around the world, for what Pastor Hilsden calls a "miracle in the making." He said, "We've had an incredible response from people who have said, ‘How can I help’? They've helped us very significantly. [They’ve] pray[ed] for us, given to us, and we've seen miracle, after miracle -- to see this vision become a reality."

During this season of congregational prayer, the Scripture verse, Psalm 27:5 became a powerful theme: "For in the time of trouble, He shall hide me in His Pavilion, in the secret place of His tabernacle shall He hide me. He shall set me high upon a rock."

Hilsden believes joy and worship make up the heart of The Pavilion. He hopes as a worship center, it will reflect Jerusalem's biblical past, present and future. He said, "The place where David worshipped. The place where Yeshua came and showed us the Father, whom we worship. And the place where He's coming back and we'll gather around the throne and worship."
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/041203a.asp?option=print


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 21, 2004, 11:18:06 PM
Mubarak: Palestinian state by 2008
Associated Press,
THE JERUSALEM POST    
Dec. 18, 2004

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, in an interview published Saturday, urged the US to push forward the stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
We would like the Americans to concentrate on solving this problem," Mubarak told the German Der Spiegel, adding that he remains confident a Palestinian state will be created in the coming years.

"I see the year 2008, when the second term of US President George W. Bush ends, as the probable time frame," he said.

On Thursday, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said his plan to withdraw from the Gaza Strip next year, coupled with the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, could turn 2005 into a "year of great opportunity."

"As things stand, Sharon is the only one in Israel who can take the courageous step toward peace," Mubarak told Der Spiegel. "The contacts that we had with Sharon over recent weeks showed that he wants to move."

Mubarak also said that he hopes tensions over Iran's nuclear program will not lead to a US attack on the country - a move that would be "a mistake of catastrophic proportions."

Washington believes Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program and has been pressing the UN atomic agency to refer Iran to the UN Security Council.

"If the United States were really to attack Iran, that would be a mistake of catastrophic proportions," Mubarak was quoted as saying by the German weekly Der Spiegel, responding to a question about Middle Eastern fears of such an attack.

"Terror and violence in the Middle East and, shortly afterward, in the whole world, would then overshadow everything we have seen so far," he added. "I hope it doesn't come to that."

Iran insists that it is only pursuing a peaceful nuclear energy program.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1103356912087&p=1101615860782

Un-huh, I think that God has other plans.
Bob


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Raphu on December 22, 2004, 04:58:10 PM
Thanks a lot for this thread. I appreciate it. I too follow what is going on in the Middle East with great interest.
I thought to add that the Hebrew calender says something about March 2006 being the eighth week of years after Jubilee. Remember Jerusalem was to be restored in one week of years which is 49years, as per Daniel 9:

24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25  Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26  And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Jesus born 62 + 3 1/2 Jesus ministry cut off  + seven to restore Jerusalem + last half of Jesus' 3 1/2 years of minstry, but through the Church that has come through the fire refined and full of the Holy Ghost. Possibly the 144,000, as they represent 12,000 from each tribe including the 10 lost tribes that God has never lost track of as the house of Israel.

 Amos 9:9  "For surely I will command, And will sift the house of Israel among all nations, As grain is sifted in a sieve; Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground.

Hosea 5:3  I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou committest whoredom, and Israel is defiled.

I notice that it does not say the temple will be rebuilt in verse 25 even though the verse in 2Thess. speaks of the antichrist in the temple. I have heard that nothing prevents the Jewish oblation even without the temple being built ?? Also the Cohanim. There are no records left for these priests to go before God in the Holy of Holies. There are problems to the Jews ever carrying out the sacrifices again..??

http://www.beingjewish.com/unchanged/rebuild.html

Another thing I have heard is that President Bush is symbolically now the king of Babylon by controling the Euphrates river. This war in Iraq is more than likely the beginning of Armageddon and we are just beginning to realize it as Christians. Babylon will be destroyed and all the merchants of the world will morn seeing their economy and best consumer gone up in smoke. Of course this is America after terrorists stategically attack communications and military. This would be the perfect time for Russia to make her move, as I hear more and more of how Putin is putting on the brakes with democracy. America's defences are scattered throughout the world, and chaos in the U/S. would give the perfect window of opportunity for the antichrist to come in with New World Order from the EU, by miraculously defeating Russia in a quick but devastating battle that Israel will join into also, being attacked by the Muslim nations and using their neutron bomb, leaving weapons to burn for seven years. Of course they could make a move on the Dome of the Rock after this victory, but the antichrist will come against them in this.
The comet that comes through the Pleiades this month and comes closest to eath January 5/6 and could be a harbinger of things to come.

Orthodox Jews have long taught that the world would last
for 6,000 years before the Messiah would come and usher in a 1,000-year period of restful human history. Since God created the world in six days, according to Genesis 1:31, and rested on the seventh day, according to Genesis 2:1, they reasoned the world's history would climax the same way. They cite Psalms 90:4, which says: "For a thousand years
in Thy sight are like yesterday when it passes by."  
Likewise, Christians have looked to II Peter 3:8: "But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
The early church understood this "six-day theory" of world history. It was widely accepted teaching for the first three centuries of the church. From the time of Adam, we've got genealogical records to show that 4,000 years passed until the time of Christ. From Jesus' time until the present age represents another 2,000 years for a total of 6,000 years or six days.
There's also a three-day theory: Jesus rose on the third day. Would the beginning of the third millennium - or thousand-year period - not be the likely time for His return to Earth? There is even strong scriptural evidence for such a theory provided in Hosea 6:2: "After two days will he revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight." Note that this prophecy is not about the Resurrection of Jesus - it's either about the resurrection of Israel after 2,000 years of dispersal or the physical return of the Lord.
Just thought I'd share some of what I have picked up along the way on other forums and in my studies, reading books on prophecy.
God bless and Maranatha...  (http://www.montada.com/images/smilies/new_icons/saint.gif)
 


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 23, 2004, 12:54:10 AM
Raphu,

Brother, thanks for your input and addition to this study. This is a fascinating, but extremely difficult study. I give thanks that many brothers and sisters can discuss this topic with peace and interest, even though there are many varying opinions.

I realize there are many brothers and sisters who don't consider Bible prophecy to be literal, rather parables for some other purpose or spiritualized for purposes other than reality that will happen in the future. That's fine, as having Jesus as Lord and Saviour is thousands of times more important than trying to study and understand Bible prophecy.

I fit into the category of people who feel that Bible prophecy is literal reality that will be fulfilled to the letter in the future. My belief is based on many Old Testament prophecies that have already been fulfilled to the letter and in ALL REALITY. I like to study and discuss Bible prophecy, mainly because it is in the Bible for a purpose. I enjoy it when brothers and sisters in Christ can come together in peace and share varying opinions.

I believe the Bible clearly teaches that this current age and dispensation of the Grace of God will end. Further, I believe we may be living in a time where the end of this age is near. Many people disagree about timing, sequence of events, and major events which might or might not happen at the end of this age. Regardless, there are HUGE events that will most certainly take place. Most Christians agree that Jesus Christ will come again, but they may disagree about the purpose and specific event:

1.  Rapture of the Church which is the BODY OF CHRIST is one such major event. Some don't believe this event will take place, and others disagree about the timing of this MOST MAJOR EVENT. I believe the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH will happen before the TRIBULATION PERIOD. The Holy Spirit (Restrainer) will be removed from this earth during the Rapture of the Church. The powers of darkness and the anti-Christ will be unleashed.

2.  Many people believe that the tribulation period talked about in the Holy Bible has either already happened, a parable, or simply another spiritualized message for another purpose. I believe it is a literal 7 year period of time yet to come. Further, I believe that time may be soon.

3.  Many people believe that the anti-Christ is a condition or groups of people, as opposed to a single personification of evil called the Beast and the anti-Christ. I understand the group or mass thoughts, but I believe the Holy Bible clearly teaches that "THE ANTI-CHRIST" will be revealed at or near the end of this age, and the earth will suffer destruction and misery beyond human imagination.

4.  As I said, most Christians believe in the Second Coming of Christ, but they may disagree with the timing or the list of events associated with this HUGE AND PRECIOUS EVENT. There will be a cleansing of evil, and hosts will see and feel HIS TERRIBLE SWIFT SWORD.

5.  There is confusion about the rule and reign of Christ, rightfully so. Many don't believe the Bible refers to more than one throne. All Christians know and believe that Jesus Christ is LORD OF LORDS, KING OF KINGS, and sits on a Heavenly Throne. The Kingdom of God is already a reality, HE lives in our hearts, and we already belong to HIS Heavenly Kingdom. The confusion and disagreement regards the second throne mentioned in the Holy Bible, the Throne of David. Many people spiritualize the 1,000 year rule and reign of Christ, usually thinking that 1 day is as 1,000 years, so a parable such as this would indicate or imply infinity.

Here's what I believe, but I have no wish to argue or have any contention with other brothers and sisters in Christ:

1.  The Throne of GOD in Heaven is not the Throne of David;  

2.  The Throne of David will be an earthly throne in Jerusalem;  

3.  Jesus Christ will sit on the earthy Throne of David in Jerusalem and rule and reign over the earth for a literal 1,000 years;  

4.  The Kingdom of God and the Millennial Kingdom are two separate and distinct things;  

5.  The Kingdom of God is already reality, but the Millennial Kingdom will not begin until the end of the Tribulation Period.


Please, I don't say any of these things for argument, to hurt  feelings, or to have any contention of any kind with any brother or sister in Christ. I say them simply as a matter of discussion and study. I didn't mention some other MAJOR EVENTS that will most certainly happen at God's appointed time. This is more than enough to think about. I'll give you a couple of hints. (a)  Armageddon is not a parable or spiritualized event. The world's most horrible and destructive battles will happen and be reality. Great portions of the earth's entire population will be killed. (b)  The "mark of the beast" is not a parable or spiritualized message for some other purpose. The "mark of the beast" will become a terrible reality during the Tribulation Period.  (c)  Israel will become the greatest and most feared nations on earth. All of the promises God made to Israel thousands of years ago will be fulfilled to the letter. (d) Resurrection and Judgment involving the number and timing of events.

Love In Christ,
Tom



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 08, 2005, 11:22:10 PM
Trouble is a brewing again.

Jerusalem Tops Agenda in Palestinian Poll Campaign

Fri Jan 7, 5:03 PM ET
World - Reuters
By Mohammed Assadi

BIR NABALA, West Bank (Reuters) - Palestinian presidential frontrunner Mahmoud Abbas canceled an election rally in Jerusalem on Friday, objecting to Israeli security, and his main rival was detained at a holy site in the city.

"Today we did not go to Jerusalem, but tomorrow we will be in Jerusalem because Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Palestinian people," Abbas told thousands of Palestinians in the nearby West Bank village of Bir Nabala to roars of approval.

"We want our Jerusalem. Let us go to Jerusalem as free people in our millions," he said, while keeping alive the prospect of peace talks with Israel on the final day of campaigning for Sunday's election to succeed Yasser Arafat.

Israel calls Jerusalem its "eternal indivisible capital" and its future status lies at the heart of the Middle East conflict. Palestinians say the eastern half of the city, captured by Israel in 1967, is the capital of their future state.

Abbas, who has revived international hopes for Middle East peace by promising to try to end militant violence and pursue talks with Israel, decided he did not want to be pictured being shadowed by Israeli security units in Jerusalem, aides said.

This could have undercut his efforts to win over militants who in the past have branded him a lackey of Israel, they said, adding Israel had told Abbas it would impose heavy security because ultra-nationalist Jews might attack him.

His main challenger, Mustafa Barghouthi, went to Arab East Jerusalem but was detained briefly by Israeli police when he tried to enter a site holy to both Muslims and Jews.

HOLY SITE DISPUTE

"I am coming here to pray in the mosque and now you are arresting me. You are arresting a presidential candidate with a permit to be in Jerusalem," Barghouthi said as he was detained at an entrance to Jerusalem's walled Old City.

Israeli police spokesman Gil Kleiman said Barghouthi had a permit for an election debate in an East Jerusalem hotel but not to appear in the holy site known to Jews as Temple Mount and Muslims as al-Haram al-Sharif.

"Barghouthi tried to enter Temple Mount for electioneering purposes," said Kleiman, adding this could have caused violence.

Israel said Palestinian residents of Jerusalem could vote in the election and candidates could campaign in private buildings.

Abbas, who took over the Palestine Liberation Organization when Arafat died in November, signaled a wish for stability to foster peacemaking, saying he would keep Ahmed Qurie as prime minister. They are moderates who were long-time Arafat deputies.

Arafat often called for "millions of martyrs to march to Jerusalem," a slogan Israel regarded as incitement to violence. Arafat denied fomenting bloodshed.

Israel annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Middle East war in a move not recognized internationally.

Opinion polls have forecast a landslide victory for Abbas. A poll released on Friday showed him with 52 percent of the vote to 25 percent for Barghouthi, a human rights activist.

A senior Israeli source said Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon would meet the election winner and was expected to offer a chance to coordinate a planned Israeli pullout from Gaza.

The Israeli leader was also expected to offer to pull troops out of some West Bank towns if the Palestinians "demonstrate capabilities to assume security responsibility" and "take the necessary steps to fight terrorism," said the source.

Abbas said Israeli soldiers should pull back to where they were before the start of a Palestinian uprising in 2000. He said he would demand Israel stop construction of settlements and a West Bank barrier that cuts into Palestinian territory.

"I do not have confidence that there will be a breakthrough or that we will reach a solution, but I have no other choice ... I will try to convince him of my ideas, but if I fail, then we'll see what happens," Abbas told reporters in Ramallah.

Sharon's plan to "disengage" from conflict with the Palestinians, involving evacuation of all 21 Jewish settlements in Gaza and four of 120 in the West Bank, was initially designed as a unilateral measure while Arafat was alive. (Additional reporting by Ori Lewis in Jerusalem)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20050107/wl_nm/mideast_dc


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on May 18, 2005, 07:39:07 PM
Rise in Israeli-Palestinian violence strains truce

By Nidal al-Mughrabi 2 hours, 30 minutes ago

GAZA (Reuters) - Israel launched an air strike against
Gaza Strip militants shelling Jewish settlements on Wednesday, in a surge of violence straining an already tenuous truce.
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The death of a Hamas militant in disputed circumstances and other violence could complicate Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon's plan to quit Gaza. A new poll showed Israeli support for a pullout was down, though a majority still favors it.

"If the
Palestinian Authority does not take the necessary steps to stop these launches, we will, with everything that entails," an Israeli official said.

It was the worst Gaza violence since the Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire took hold in February, and began with the pre-dawn death of a Hamas gunman along Gaza's border with Egypt.

Another militant was seriously hurt in the Israeli missile strike. The Israeli army said he was part of a squad that had been firing rockets or mortars into a Jewish settlement. A settler youth was lightly hurt, witnesses said.

The Israeli air attack was the first against Gaza militants since Hamas and other armed factions agreed to a ceasefire after a Feb. 8 summit between Sharon and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declaring an end to four years of hostilities.

Hamas said the gunman died when a grenade or explosive device was launched by Israeli soldiers during a patrol.

The Israeli army said its forces could not have been behind his death because they did not fire explosive devices during a brief exchange with gunmen. An army spokesman suggested a bomb the gunman was trying to plant may have detonated prematurely.

Palestinian security forces dispatched to stop the shelling were shot at by militants and stoned by bystanders, witnesses said. The security forces withdrew with three men wounded. Hamas said it was not involved in the clash.

"This is a serious escalation that cannot be accepted," said a Palestinian Interior Ministry spokesman. "National security forces will take all measures appropriate in this regard."

Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie blamed Israel for the violence. "Regrettably, there is a systematic escalation which is a clear violation of the signed understandings," he told reporters in the West Bank.

EROSION IN TRUST

Rising violence despite the three-month ceasefire shows a growing erosion in trust and confidence between the two sides, a senior U.N. official told the Security Council on Wednesday.

To help restore confidence, the Palestinian Authority must worker harder to end all violence and make tangible progress on the ground while Israel "should do more to support the Palestinian leadership in its difficult task," said Kieran Prendergast, the U.N. undersecretary for political affairs.

Israel plans to withdraw from Gaza settlements in mid-August under what Sharon has billed as a way of "disengaging" from a point of conflict. Palestinian militants see the pullback from land captured in the 1967 Middle East war as a victory.

Far-right Israeli opponents of Sharon's plan have stepped up protests, citing violence such as Wednesday's as proof that any withdrawal from occupied land would "reward terror." Many Jews consider Gaza and the West Bank theirs by biblical birthright.

Keen to see Gaza evacuated without a fight, Sharon and his top ministers said on Wednesday that settlers who agree within seven days to relocate to an Israeli community set aside for them up the coast from Gaza would get priority for interim housing, school arrangements, and other amenities.

A survey conducted by Tel Aviv University at the beginning of May pointed to a steady erosion of a previous two-thirds majority for what will be Israel's first removal of settlements from land Palestinians want for a state.

It found that 56 percent of Israeli Jews back the plan to evacuate 21 settlements in Gaza and four of 120 in the West Bank, down from 62 percent in February.

The researchers attributed the decline in support to growing concern that the withdrawal would hurt Israeli security -- contrary to Sharon's message that it would boost security.

Hamas issued a statement warning Sharon that "the security you are enjoying these days will not last long if aggression continues against our people."

Sworn to Israel's destruction, Hamas has spearheaded a campaign of suicide bombings against Israelis in the Palestinian revolt, but had pledged to refrain from attacks for now.

Palestinians welcome any withdrawal but many fear Sharon is trying to trade the coastal strip for a tighter grip on the West Bank, where the vast majority of Israel's 240,000 settlers live.

(Additional reporting by Mark Heinrich in Gush Katif and Allyn Fisher-Ilan, Jonathan Saul and Megan Goldin in Jerusalem)
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050518/wl_nm/mideast_dc


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on June 07, 2005, 04:16:04 PM


Selahjoy:

I hope the following will be helpful.
First, what we now know as Iraq was originally called, among other things, Shinar.  Generally, the residents of Shinar were also called Babylonians, due to the building of Babylon, and also Chaldeans.
The modern day Iraq does not bear that much resemblance to the land are originally encompassed by Shinar, which actually extended into part of Iran, and into Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

However, in Jeremiah we see some specific words against that area.

"The word that the LORD spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet. Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces. For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast" (Jer. 50:1-3).

Notice that apparently UTTER destruction is destined, in so much as that no man or beast shall inhabit the land.  Although Babylon, and Iraq have undergone much destruction through the centuries, that utter destruction has not occured.....yet.

Jeremiah also said:

"Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her. Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD" (Jer. 51:47-48).

This corresponds to a certain degree with the pronouncements of John (Jesus) in the book of Revelation concerning the destruction of Babylon, and how all the world will mourn her passing.

It does appear that Iraq/Shinar/Chaldea/Babylon is in for a big hit, probably occuring during the tribulation period and the battles that will occur between the beast (anti-christ/man of perdition) and the other countries that will come against him.  In particular, you should note that the "200 million" man army (China?) belonging to the King(s) of the East will travel via a dried-up Euphrates river to get to the area.

There will be a 7 year "time of trouble", but that time (the tribulation period) is decreed against (1) the Jews (it is also called the time of Jacob's trouble), and (2) against the entire world, as it encompasses the outpouring of God's wrath upon the earth.

I would suggest that the best prayers for those in Iraq would be that first, they come to know the Lord Jesus....and secondly, find someplace else to move to....


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: JudgeNot on June 07, 2005, 09:46:31 PM
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I would suggest that the best prayers for those in Iraq would be that first, they come to know the Lord Jesus....
Amen.
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and secondly, find someplace else to move to....
:D  :D  :D


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: SelahJoy on June 08, 2005, 10:12:44 PM
 Notice that apparently UTTER destruction is destined, in so much as that no man or beast shall inhabit...Iraq...all the world will mourn her passing.

There will be a 7 year "time of trouble", but that time (the tribulation period) is decreed against (1) the Jews (it is also called the time of Jacob's trouble), and (2) against the entire world, as it encompasses the outpouring of God's wrath upon the earth.

I would suggest that the best prayers for those in Iraq would be that first, they come to know the Lord Jesus....and secondly, find someplace else to move to....

Evangelist,

Thank you very much for sending the recent information.  I hope you don't mind that I ask lots of questions though.  Any that you have knowledge about, I would appreciate learning.  Below is my long list of questions:

Why do you suppose our Father would want to eventually destroy the place where Iraq is?  I wonder if He finds the historical and contemporary wickedness of that area to be an abomination to Him, which is in precise contrast to His glorious peace when He once walked in the Garden of Eden.  (any Bible references?)

Why do you say that the whole earth will mourn the destruction of Iraq?

If the Bible says so, why would God want to predict our collective grief over the destruction of that part of the world?

It sounds like you are speaking of the "rapture."  If history plays out the rapture like some believe it will, do you think God would allow some saints to stay behind so they can evangelize the lost?  The reason I ask that is because when the "time of trouble" begins, there will be those who want to come to Christ, and they will be baby Christians who need tender loving care to "fill their oil lamps" and be ready for the "Bridegroom."  Who will lead them if all the Christians are raptured?

When do you think the "time of trouble" will begin?  Further, when it does, will it be too late to get our troops out of there? or to get visas for Iraqi's?  Since your quote above spells out destruction, what do you think the reason should be for our active-duty military personnel to maintain good, high morale while they are over there fighting and witnessing so many die?

If those who live there were to try to find someplace else to live, where would be the easiest, safest, and fastest place/way to go?  Is America an option?  How?

I agree wholeheartedly that the best way to pray for everyone in Iraq--military, civilian, and insurgeant--is for salvation and revival, in Jesus' name!

If you write back, thank you so much!  Some of these questions have been on my mind for quite some time.  I look forward to learning but at the same time, I don't want you to feel any pressure to write back.  God bless you today!

selahjoy*


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Bronzesnake on June 08, 2005, 11:11:40 PM
Hello SelahJoy.

 I can answer one of your questions.

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It sounds like you are speaking of the "rapture."  If history plays out the rapture like some believe it will, do you think God would allow some saints to stay behind so they can evangelize the lost?  The reason I ask that is because when the "time of trouble" begins, there will be those who want to come to Christ, and they will be baby Christians who need tender loving care to "fill their oil lamps" and be ready for the "Bridegroom."  Who will lead them if all the Christians are raptured?

 There will most definitely not be any Christians left behind.
There will be many people left behind who are very knowledgeable in the Holy Bible, who did not take the Bible literally before the Rapture. There are thousands of pastors right now who fit this description; these men and women believe the Bible is a "spiritual" guidebook, instead of the literal word of God. These people will come to the horrifying realization that the Bible is God's literal word, and these people will no doubt become instant literalists and ministers to the lost. These people will be hunted down, persecuted and executed by satan and his armies. There will be much suffering for these people during the seven years tribulation. None who accept the mark of the beast will be able to buy or sell anything including food and clothing, so these people will be in full out survival mode.

There are also the 144,000 Jews, which God puts His personal seal upon which protects them from the Wrath. These will most certainly be powerful ministers to the lost also.




Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Reba on June 09, 2005, 01:00:26 AM

Politically speaking i fall into the pro Israel category.

I have been reading some of the first posts in this thread.....

I have read how many nations are against Israel.

 We know Sadam murdered his own and invaded Kuwait, not Israel.

There were battles on the Afghan border with Pakistan, again not Israel.

There has been much talk of the jealousy of the Saudis  from the other Arabs. The Saudis have killed thier own family to maintane or gain control.

We talk of the ‘hot bed’ in the middle east as being Israel but seems to resent history Afghan has been at war for ever. Iran and Iraq have been in their own civil wars for years. Uprisings in Egypt.

   Any one here have resent historical, factual knowledge of the region? ( in reading the above sentence it does not read as kind as I would have it read but I don’t know how else to ask. Like I am not saying what has been posted in not factual etc.)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 09, 2005, 10:37:45 AM

Politically speaking i fall into the pro Israel category.

I have been reading some of the first posts in this thread.....

I have read how many nations are against Israel.

 We know Sadam murdered his own and invaded Kuwait, not Israel.

There were battles on the Afghan border with Pakistan, again not Israel.

There has been much talk of the jealousy of the Saudis  from the other Arabs. The Saudis have killed thier own family to maintane or gain control.

We talk of the ‘hot bed’ in the middle east as being Israel but seems to resent history Afghan has been at war for ever. Iran and Iraq have been in their own civil wars for years. Uprisings in Egypt.

   Any one here have resent historical, factual knowledge of the region? ( in reading the above sentence it does not read as kind as I would have it read but I don’t know how else to ask. Like I am not saying what has been posted in not factual etc.)


Try this link it covers the middle east from 1948 to present.

http://www.historyguy.com/War_list.html#warlist13a



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Evangelist on June 09, 2005, 02:46:40 PM
Hmmmm.......a whole passel of questions!!  I'll try to take them one (or two) at a time.

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Why do you suppose our Father would want to eventually destroy the place where Iraq is?  I wonder if He finds the historical and contemporary wickedness of that area to be an abomination to Him, which is in precise contrast to His glorious peace when He once walked in the Garden of Eden.  (any Bible references?)

As noted in the previously quoted scripture from Jeremiah 50:1,
"...Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded,...", the reason for God's disgust with the area is their apparently continuing penchance for idol worship.....and not just any old idols. Bel and Merodach both were pagan 'gods', and were particularly bloody in the form of their worship, with sacrifice of children and virgins being foremost. One of Bel's names was Molech, and he is referenced many times in scripture.
Lev 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through [the fire] to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I [am] the LORD.
Lev 20:3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.

These are just two of nine references to the practices.

Merodach was the name given by Nimrod to Babel, and is a symbol of man's monument to himself.

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Why do you say that the whole earth will mourn the destruction of Iraq?

Rev 18:9
And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Note that it is the 'kings' of the earth, the leaders of nations that will be the ones doing most of the crying.  Those who have profited, whether by war, or selling of munitions, or through commercial trade, will bemoan the loss.  Very possibly (this is supposition) the major loss will be in the loss of oil. Consider that that area contains well over 50% of the worlds total proven oil reserves.

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If the Bible says so, why would God want to predict our collective grief over the destruction of that part of the world?

I think the above scripture covers this one.  It's an economic thing.  Also, keep in mind, that it is not "our" (as in Christians) collective grief, it is the grief of those who are still in, and part of, this world and it's controlling influence (satan....he is the 'prince of the power of the air.')

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It sounds like you are speaking of the "rapture."  If history plays out the rapture like some believe it will, do you think God would allow some saints to stay behind so they can evangelize the lost?  The reason I ask that is because when the "time of trouble" begins, there will be those who want to come to Christ, and they will be baby Christians who need tender loving care to "fill their oil lamps" and be ready for the "Bridegroom."  Who will lead them if all the Christians are raptured?

No, I don't believe that any Christians will be left behind. Why? If one is a Christian, then they are saved...not a little bit, not a little more, and not just some.....saved is saved, and not saved is not saved.  Will there by "christians" in name only left behind? Yes, because they are not saved to begin with, no matter what they call themselves.  As Bronze pointed out, there will be 144,000 Jews that are saved and sealed for the purpose of evangelizing and testifying to Messiah Jesus during the period of "jacob's trouble."

We (Christians) won't be here, because:
1Th 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

and the time of tribulation is specifically spelled out in scripture as the pouring out of the wrath of God upon this earth, and those here who deny Him.  It is also pointed out (Daniel) as having a purpose of cleansing Israel once and for all, bringing an end to sin and completing His work of redemption.

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When do you think the "time of trouble" will begin?

It begins when a dark leader (often called the anti-christ) comes to power over a confederation of nations and signs a peace treaty with Israel, 'guaranteeing' her peace and safety. More details can be found in Dan. 7 and 9, and throughout Rev.  Paul refers to this also:
1Th 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Here Paul is referring to the Jews, and this cross references to what Jesus said in Matthew 24

In 2Th 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Paul is pinpointing a sequence of events culminating in the revelation, or unveiling, of this 'man of sin', or the anti-christ.

 
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Further, when it does, will it be too late to get our troops out of there? or to get visas for Iraqi's?  Since your quote above spells out destruction, what do you think the reason should be for our active-duty military personnel to maintain good, high morale while they are over there fighting and witnessing so many die?

I think most of our troops will be gone....either via the rapture, or by sudden withdrawal for some reason.  Visa's?  I think it will be too late.  The reason to maintain high morale would be directly tied to their standing with Christ....if they are saved, then they will know they are doing some good, especially in witnessing.

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If those who live there were to try to find someplace else to live, where would be the easiest, safest, and fastest place/way to go?  Is America an option?  How?

I have no good advice on this....sorry.

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If you write back, thank you so much!  Some of these questions have been on my mind for quite some time.  I look forward to learning but at the same time, I don't want you to feel any pressure to write back.  God bless you today!

I hope it's a little help...there is so much covered in so few words that it's next to impossible to connect all the little dots, but the picture is there.

And God bless you!!


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Reba on June 10, 2005, 11:35:56 PM
Thanks Roger,

that is the kinda stuff i was hoping for.   :)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: toolapc on July 31, 2005, 07:40:48 PM
hey tim i was wondering around march 14 the north star started to move like a UFo. like a day later terrorist invaded Jerusalem it was on TV for a second my friend said but that was is nothin else no web site on it so the government coverd it up.


Title: Officials: Jihad in Syria ordered strikes
Post by: Shammu on October 26, 2005, 10:55:16 PM
Officials: Jihad in Syria ordered strikes

Rockets fired at southern Israeli community in recent days ordered by Islamic Jihad headquarters in Damascus; Israel relayed warning message to Syria prior to attacks. Qassam fire continues Tuesday night
Alex Fishman

The order to fire Qassam rockets at Israeli communities in recent days came from the Islamic Jihad’s headquarters in Syria, security officials say.

Following the killing of the group’s West Bank terror leader Louie Sa’adi earlier this week, Jihad leaders in Syria exerted heavy pressure on terrorists to respond by directing mortar and rocket fire at Israel, at any cost.

This time around, Syrian officials cannot pretend they had no idea what was happening right under their noses, because Israel relayed messages to Damascus, through various sources, informing the Syrians about the rocket attacks about to follow.

Some officials in Israel thought Syria, which is already facing intense international scrutiny, might push the Islamic Jihad to curb its attacks, but Syrian officials did not act.

Meanwhile, Israel also informed the Palestinian Authority hours before the Qassam strikes that terrorists are planning to launch rocket attacks. PA officials were asked to take steps in a bid to prevent the fire, but Palestinian security officials did not even pretend to be acting on the information.

Gaza’s Karni and Erez crossings were reopened Wednesday morning following a situation assessment by the IDF. The crossings were closed following the Qassam rocket attacks.

Another rocket Tuesday night

Despite the IDF’s work to prevent rocket attacks, a Qassam rocket was fired close to midnight (Israel time) at Sderot. No injuries have been reported.

On the eve of Simchat Torah (Monday night), at least five Qassam rockets were fired at the city.

Sderot’s level of alert has been raised due to fears that Palestinian organizations would try to take revenge for the killing of Islamic Jihad commander Louie Sa’adi.

Moshe Ben Sheetrit, a 29 year-old resident of the city, told Ynet: “The Red Dawn (alert system) siren was heard. Usually, there are 20 seconds to run to a protected structure, but before I got there, I heard a boom; it was less than 20 seconds. The children are asleep, thank God.”

In response to Monday night’s rocket salvo, the IAF hit targets in northern Gaza, and IDF forces fired artillery shells at Qassam rocket launching pads. An IAF combat helicopter also struck two buildings in Gaza.

Palestinian doctors said that a Palestinian woman and two of her daughters were injured by shrapnel from the air strike in southern Gaza.

On Tuesday Sderot Mayor Eli Moyal told Ynet that the IDF’s “soft” response to Monday’s barrage of Qassam rockets at Sderot encourages the Palestinians to continue attacking us, on Tuesday.

'People are angry'

“The IDF should not respond to their (rocket-launchers) attacks, but rather immobilized them completely,” Moyal said.

Sderot resident Gili Bohadana said, “It’s scary, there’s no other way to describe the lousy feeling you get when you know a Qassam rocket may be served as your main dish at the family dinner.

“People are angry, and I can understand them,” he said.

“My home is located about one kilometer (1.6 miles) from Beit Hanun and Beit Lahia (Gaza). On a clear day you can see Fatma hanging up the laundry while her son Mahmoud plays soccer in the street – they should be afraid; they should be in hiding; they should not be able to sleep at night. Better them than us. We are fed up. We simply want to live.”

A senior IDF officer told Ynet, “We expected the Palestinian Authority to prevent the Qassam fire, but as it has not done so, we responded harshly after the initial barrage. We will continue to be on alert and prepared to respond at any moment."

 Hanan Greenberg, Ali Waked and Tova Dadon contributed to the report
   
Officials: Jihad in Syria ordered strikes (http://www.worthynews.com/zone.cgi?http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3159338,00.html)


Title: Iranian president repeats his call for the destruction of Israel
Post by: Shammu on October 29, 2005, 12:09:20 AM
02:21 29/10/2005            
Iranian president repeats his call for the destruction of Israel
By Aluf Benn and Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondents, and Agencies

Iran is counting Venezuela as a friend and ally, an Iranian government official said on Friday, amid a diplomatic storm set off by comments from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad this week that Israel should be "wiped off the map."

"We are two friendly countries, Iran and Venezuela ... When one is in need the other supports," Saeed Jalili, Iran's Vice Minister of Foreign Relations for Europe and America, said during a visit to Caracas.

Despite condemnations from the West and ally Russia, Ahmadinejad on Friday signaled he stood by his call for Israel to be eliminated. Israel said it would request an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council over the comments.

Venezuela and Iran, both members of the oil exporters' cartel OPEC, have strengthened ties since President Hugo Chavez first won office in 1998 and tightened relations with other crude producing nations.

But Venezuela's Foreign Minister Ali Rodriguez appealed for caution on Friday and said that the South American nation would have to consider the comments of the Islamic Republic.

"For us to fix a position we need the official versions of the respective countries," Rodriguez told journalists.

Meanwhile in Teheran, Over a million Iranians staged anti-Israel protests across the country as Ahmadinejad repeated his earlier call demanding Israel's destruction.

China and Turkey on Friday joined the list of nations around the world condemning Ahmadinejad's calls to destroy Israel.

The Vatican also condemned the Iranian leader's statement, calling it "particularly serious and unacceptable."

U.K's tabloid newspaper, The Sun, called Ahmadinejad 'the most evil man in the world' in a huge two-page spread.

The Iranian demonstrations are being held as part of annual Al-Quds - Jerusalem - Day protests, which were first held in 1979 after Shi'ite Muslim clerics took power in Iran.

Ahmadinejad made an appearance at the Tehran rally and took a short walk with the crowd. He rejected the West's condemnation of his original comments that "Israel must be wiped off the map" as "invalid."

"My words were the Iranian nation's words. Westerners are free to comment, but their reactions are invalid," Ahmadinejad told the official IRNA news agency.

State-run television showed Ahmadinejad surrounded by protesters, many holding banners carrying anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian slogans including "Death to Israel, death to America."

Young girls wearing head-to-toe black chadors with green headbands covered in Islamic verses chanted anti-Israeli slogans below a banner showing caricatures of U.S. President George W. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Just prior, however, Iran sought to smooth over the effects of Ahmadinejad's comments, saying through its Moscow embassy that he did not mean to "speak up in such sharp terms."

World leaders have condemned the remarks, which Ahmadinejad made Wednesday. He was repeating the words of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of Iran's Islamic revolution.

"Mr. Ahmadinejad did not have any intention to speak up in such sharp terms and enter into a conflict," the Iranian Embassy in Moscow said in a statement.

"It's absolutely clear that, in his remarks, Mr. Ahmadinejad, president of the Islamic Republic of Iran, underlined the key position of Iran, based on the necessity to hold free elections on the occupied territories," the statement said.

But Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was less diplomatic, telling state-run television late Thursday that Iran does not consider Israel legitimate.

"The comments expressed by the president is the declared and specific policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said. "We don't recognize the Zionist regime and don't consider it legitimate." Mottaki also said the massive demonstrations would illustrate the anger of the Islamic world over the Jewish state's existence.

China, Turkey condemn comments China said Friday it disapproved of the Iranian president's calls to destroy Israel, saying such comments ratcheted up Middle East tensions and made Beijing uneasy.

China's Foreign Ministry released a statement criticizing the comments by Ahmadinedjad.

"This kind of opinion violates the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and intensifies tensions in the Middle East and goes against the interests of the Middle East region and its people," said the statement, which was in response to a media request for comment.

"China feels unease regarding this opinion," it said, but did not elaborate.

Turkey, the only Muslim country to have close security ties with Israel, added its voice on Friday to the international condemnation of Ahmadinejad's remarks.

"Turkey believes that regional conflicts can only be solved through dialogue and peaceful methods," Foreign Ministry spokesman Namik Tan said in a statement.

"Turkey believes that international relations should be developed in a spirit of intercultural harmony and dialogue at a time when our world faces the danger of a clash between civilizations," Tan added. "Naturally it is not possible for us to approve of such a statement (by Ahmadinejad)," he said.

Israel calls for Iran's expulsion from UN The Foreign Ministry was moving forward Friday with its diplomatic offensive against Iran, launched in response to the Iranian president's statement.

On Thursday, Israel called for the expulsion of Iran from the UN. The Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, Danny Gillerman, asked the rotating president of the UN Security Council to expel Iran from the world body. Gillerman wrote in a letter that Ahmadinejad's comments require a strong and decisive response from the international community, Israel Radio reported. He said no country that calls for violence and destruction should be allowed membership in the UN.

Sharon said at a meeting Thursday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that a country which calls for the destruction of another people cannot be a member of the UN. "Such a country that has nuclear weapons is a danger, not only to Israel and the Middle East, but also to Europe," Sharon said.

Senior Foreign Ministry officials convened Thursday to decide on the best policy for handling the issue. Some of the officials expressed reservations about the diplomatic offensive, saying it would be better for Israel to keep a low profile; however, this position was rejected.

The Iranian foreign ministry called on its ambassadors in Europe to adopt countermeasures in response to their summoning by European foreign ministries. It called on the Iranian diplomats to present their "serious protest" against the European ignorance of "crimes committed by the Zionists and suppression of the Palestinian nation."

Lavrov, meanwhile, said his government had condemned the statements and called in the Iranian ambassador to Moscow for clarification of the remarks. He said the Russian ambassador to Tehran had also been instructed to present an official condemnation.

Lavrov also met with Vice Premier Shimon Peres and said that Moscow is opposed to Iran's attempts to develop and produce nuclear weapons. He said that there was as yet no proof that Iran actually had nuclear weapons and that, according to Russia's information, it would take a long time before Tehran actually had nuclear capability.

Therefore, Lavrov added, the wide-scale diplomatic campaign against Iran should be continued unabated but care should be taken not to push Tehran to a point where it refuses to abide by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, as North Korea has done.

UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan reprimanded Iran's president Thursday for calling for the destruction of Israel. Annan expressed "dismay" over Ahmadinejad's comments in a statement released in a special bulletin by his spokesman.

"Israel is a long-standing member of the United Nations with the same rights and obligations as every other member," Annan said in a statement. The UN Charter is opposed to threats or use of force against the territorial integrity and political independence of any state, he said. Annan said he plans to visit Iran in "the next few weeks" and would put the Middle East peace process and the right of all states to live in peace and safety within secure borders at the top of his agenda.

As the diplomatic offensive continued, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom met with his French counterpart, Philippe Douste-Blazy in Paris, and said that "the international community must prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. Tehran says its nuclear program is purely to make power but we know what the Iranians' real intentions are," he said.

"The Iranians are trying to develop a nuclear bomb in order to destroy the state of Israel," he told reporters after the meeting. "The time has come for the whole international community to be united in order to stop the Iranians."

Shalom said Iran is developing missiles with a 3,000-kilometer range that can reach Europe. Iran is a threat to the entire West; it already has missiles that can reach Israel. Shalom said it is conceivable that Tehran might have a nuclear bomb within six months.

Douste-Blazy called Ahmadinejad's comments "unacceptable and shocking." "Nobody has the right to call the state of Israel into question," he said. "We will not permit a nuclear Iran."

Iranian president repeats his call for the destruction of Israel (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/638943.html)


Title: Iran Leader Reiterates Anti-Israel Stance
Post by: Shammu on October 29, 2005, 12:10:32 AM
Iran Leader Reiterates Anti-Israel Stance

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer Fri Oct 28, 5:39 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's ultraconservative president — spurning international outrage over his remarks about Israel — joined more than a million demonstrators who flooded the streets of the capital and other major cities Friday to back his call for the destruction of the Jewish state.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood fast behind his assertion that Israel should be wiped off the map and repeated the call during the nationwide protests Friday, the Muslim day of prayer.

But in an apparent attempt to blunt international outrage over Ahmadinejad's comments, the Iranian Embassy in Moscow issued a statement saying the Iranian leader did not want to "engage in a conflict."

Marching alongside the protesters, the 47-year-old former mayor of Tehran and one-time Republican Guard commander renewed his criticism of the West.

"They become upset when they hear any voice of truth-seeking. They think they are the absolute rulers of the world," he said during the al-Quds — or Jerusalem — Day protest, which was among the largest since they were first held in 1979 after Shiite Muslim clerics took power in Iran.

His fellow marchers carried placards reading "Death to Israel, death to America." It is not uncommon for an Iranian president to join marches in the capital. Ahmadinejad was accompanied by five bodyguards, but otherwise security was not out of the ordinary for such an event.

Despite Ahmadinejad's continued harsh attacks on the West, former President Hashemi Rafsanjani tried to dial back the rhetoric, suggesting that Israelis and Palestinians hold a referendum to decide the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations.

"If Muslims and Palestinians agree (to a referendum), it will be a retreat but let's still hold a referendum," Rafsanjani said in his Friday prayer sermon.

The Iranian Embassy statement in Moscow said Ahmadinejad "did not have any intention to speak in sharp terms and engage in a conflict."

But that was not the message carried by the at least 200,000 Iranians who massed in Tehran to unleashed virulent condemnation against Israel, the United States and the West in general, accusing them of oppressing Palestinians and Iran.

Some demonstrators chanted "Israel is approaching its death" and wore white shrouds in a symbolic gesture expressing readiness to die for their cause.

A resolution was read at the end of the rallies backing "the position declared by the president that the Zionist regime must be wiped out."

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki defended his president's comments, saying they represented Iran's long-held policy of not recognizing Israel.

"Unfortunately the Western countries have remained silent on the increasing inhuman activities of Israel," Mottaki said at the Tehran march.

Protests attracted at least 100,000 in each of Iran's eight largest cities, according to AP reporters. State television said millions of people assembled throughout the country. Major rallies also were held in other Middle Eastern countries.

In Beirut, the militant Hezbollah group marked the day by staging a parade that saw more than 6,000 guerrillas march in uniform through the streets of the Lebanese capital.

The Shiite group, which supports it Iranian mentors, has sought to strengthen its position in Lebanon after the withdrawal of Syrian troops.

At least 30,000 Bahrainis marched in their capital, Manama, burning Israeli and American flags and demanding their government rescind its recent decision to end its economic embargo of the Jewish state.

The United States said the Iranian leader's remarks have only underscored Washington's concern over Iran's nuclear program. Israel said Iran should be suspended from the United Nations. U.N. chief Kofi Annan expressed "dismay" at the comments in a rare rebuke of a U.N. member state.

The Vatican condemned as "unacceptable" statements denying the right of Israel to exist, although it did not mention Iran by name. The U.N. Security Council also condemned the remarks, while Russia summoned the Iranian ambassador seeking an explanation for the president's words.

Iran's seven state-run TV stations devoted coverage Friday to programs condemning the Jewish state and praising the Palestinian resistance since the 1948 creation of Israel.

Three stations also showed live coverage of crowds of people gathering Friday in streets throughout Tehran.

In Washington, the State Department said it was skeptical the demonstrators had gone into the streets voluntarily.

"I think you have over the past decade seen examples of the Iranian regime organizing protests in support of some of their more outrageous policies," spokesman Sean McCormack said.

After Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini toppled the pro-Western Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1979, he declared the last Friday of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan as an international day of struggle against Israel and for the liberation of Jerusalem. The founder of the Islamic regime had also called for Israel's destruction.

Iran Leader Reiterates Anti-Israel Stance (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_israel;_ylt=AmU40IdClanLWWtujkRN508LewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on October 30, 2005, 11:48:40 PM
Israeli Leader Threatens Islamic Jihad

Sun Oct 30, 5:13 AM ET

JERUSALEM - Israel's defense minister vowed Sunday to wage war on the Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad until its capabilities are wiped out.

The threat by Shaul Mofaz follows a suicide bombing by the group last week that killed five Israelis in the coastal city of Hadera.

Israel responded Thursday with an airstrike on a car in the
Gaza Strip targeting Islamic Jihad militants, but it also killed people standing nearby in crowded streets.

"We are carrying out a broad operation against terrorism, a broad operation against the Islamic Jihad infrastructure in light of Islamic Jihad's intention to continue with suicide bombings," Mofaz said ahead of the weekly Cabinet meeting.

"We are making huge efforts to prevent these attacks ... and this activity will continue until we can say that the Islamic Jihad infrastructure can no longer carry out suicide bombings," he added.

Israeli Leader Threatens Islamic Jihad (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051030/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_islamic_jihad;_ylt=AnIqnc.8IUdb3BgVPutSg_MLewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on October 30, 2005, 11:52:52 PM
Iranians say Israel spat used to up atomic pressure
Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:57 AM ET10

 By Christian Oliver

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranians on Sunday accused western countries of exploiting their president's bellicose remarks about Israel to turn up the heat on Tehran over its disputed atomic program.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's remark on Wednesday that Israel should be "wiped off the map" sparked international condemnation, including a rebuke from the UN Security Council.

But the uproar has caused confusion in Iran, where such rhetoric has been commonplace since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Anti-Israeli diatribes are painted as murals along most highways and are heard regularly at Friday prayers.

"Our respected president has not said anything new or unprecedented about Israel to justify such a huge political tumult," wrote Hossein Shariatmadari, who was appointed to his post as editor of the Kayhan daily by Iran's Supreme Leader.

"Iran's nuclear case ... could be a reason for the recent clamor."

The United States responded to Ahmadinejad by saying his words added to fears about Tehran's pursuit of nuclear arms.

Iran faces referral to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions after failing to convince the world that its atomic program is for power generation rather than weapons.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told the official IRNA new agency the west was making a fuss about the remarks to ratchet up pressure before November's board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

"Since Iran has been proven right in the atomic field, they are trying to pressure us in another sphere and make us abandon our legitimate rights," he said.

Before Ahmadinejad aired his views on Israel, European diplomats said they would probably not push for a referral to the Security Council in November.

Across Tehran, the president's remarks have drawn decidedly mixed reactions.

A group of some 200 men and women wearing black checkered Palestinian headscarves gathered to express their solidarity with the Palestinians, watching footage of Arab children killed in the conflict.

"I am ready to die for those poor children. I am ready to offer my blood," said 17-year-old Zahra, wearing the all-enveloping black chador.

But other Iranians reckon the president made an error of judgment. Although anti-Israeli rhetoric may be common in Iran's mosques, politicians have been careful not to make such inflammatory statements in recent years.

Iran's previous, reformist government, succeeded this year by Ahmadinejad's conservatives, was always careful to say it would back whatever course the Palestinians chose, leaving the way open for a two-state solution to the Middle East conflict.

"In a strategic masterstroke our president has broken the unipolar new world order and created a bipolar world," said a satirical piece posted on an Iranian Web site.

"Now there's Iran on one side and Europe, America, Asia, Africa and Oceania against us on the other."

Iranians say Israel spat used to up atomic pressure (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-30T135742Z_01_SCH752579_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-ISRAEL.xml&archived=False)


Title: Dichter: US may have to attack Iran
Post by: Shammu on October 31, 2005, 11:48:14 PM
Dichter: US may have to attack Iran
Jerusalem Post Correspondent,
THE JERUSALEM POST    
Oct. 30, 2005

If Iran reaches the point of no return in its drive for a nuclear capability, America will have to resort to a military option to thwart it, the former head of the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), Avi Dichter, said on Sunday.

Speaking at a conference of the AIPAC pro-Israel lobby in Los Angeles, Dichter said he saw no prospect whatsoever of Iran abandoning its nuclear program of its own volition. Only "western pressure," led by the United States, could halt Teheran's nuclear drive.

Dichter recalled that the entire international community condemned Israel for bombing Iraq's nuclear facility at Osiraq in 1981, only to subsequently recognize how crucial Israel's action had been in blocking Saddam Hussein's push for nuclear weapons.

Similarly, he said, if Iran were to reach "the irreversible point," America would have to do in Iran what Israel had done in Iraq.

Dichter: US may have to attack Iran (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1129540633411&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter)


Title: Sharon: We are at war
Post by: Shammu on November 02, 2005, 12:58:22 AM
Sharon: We are at war

I will not meet Abbas as long as terror continues, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon tells Italian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini in a meeting Tuesday. We are at war, and in such a situation no talks can take place, Sharon adds
Ronny Sofer

A meeting with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas is not on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's agenda, at least as long as Palestinian terror continues, Italian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini was told Tuesday.

"A Qassam rocket was launched again at Sderot last night. We are at war, and are fighting terror. A meeting with Abbas cannot be held in such a situation," a source in Sharon's office reportedly told the Italian official.

Sharon's associates told Ynet that the meeting between the prime minister and Abbas, which was meant to take place ten days ago,  has been postponed indefinitely because of a recent surge in Palestinian violence. A suicide bomber struck the coastal town of Hadera last weeking killing four Israelis and injuring another 20.

Israel responded with a military operation vowing to irradicate Islamic Jihad, the Palestinian terror group that masterminded the attack.

The level of diplomatic negotiations between Israel and the PA has been reduced to a minimum, a source said.

Palestinians slam Sharon

Palestinian Planning Minister Ghassan Khatib told Ynet, in response to Sharon's statement that "these words are a continuation of Sharon's policy, and of his refusal to meet with the Palestinians."

"The war on violence necessitates a strengthening of the ties between the two leaders. Halting the relations will lead to an escalation in violence," Khatib said.

He accused the current Israeli government of adopting a unilateral policy towards the Palestinians in order to avoid negotiations with the PA.

Speaking at a news conference in Ramallah Khatib said that “seven weeks have passed since the completion of the pullout and we remain pessimistic about things.” Khatib lamented the dire economic situation in Gaza warning that poverty will lead to more violence and extremism.

The Palestinian minister voiced claims by international observers that an alleviation on the freedom of movement of the Palestinians between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank will improve the economic situation of the populace and reduce violence.

“Yet what as been happening over the last two months confirmed suspicions by the World Bank feared --- restriction of movement only increase unemployment and poverty in Gaza,” he said.

He refuted Israel’s claim that the restrictions of movement imposed on Palestinians stem form security concerns, saying the Jewish State “is concerned with controlling the Palestinians and their economy.”

Sharon: We are at war (http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3162557,00.html)


Title: Christian-Muslim divide
Post by: Shammu on November 02, 2005, 01:02:07 AM
Away from the manger - a Christian-Muslim divide
Khaled Abu Toameh, THE JERUSALEM POST    Oct. 21, 2005

Tourists and pilgrims who visited Bethlehem over the past decade or so must have run into Farid Azizeh, a Christian businessman who, together with his wife, ran a small coffee shop on Manger Square.

The couple was famous for the fresh orange juice and Turkish coffee they used to serve to their customers. On the eve of the millennium, many foreign journalists who converged on Bethlehem turned the place into a makeshift media center.

Azizeh's coffee shop was among the few businesses in Bethlehem that had remained open after the intifada began in September 2000. "The situation will one day return to normal," he once said when asked about the new cycle of violence. "One day there will be peace here because this is the city of peace and the birthplace of Jesus."

But life will never return to normal for Azizeh, who for many years served as a member of the Bethlehem municipal council.

About three years ago, unidentified gunmen opened fire at Azizeh's car on one of the main streets of the city, hitting him in the head. Shortly after the attack, and with the help of Israeli friends, he was transferred to Hadassah University Hospital in Jerusalem, where doctors managed to save his life. However, several surgeries failed to save his eyesight.

Since then, the coffee shop has closed and Azizeh, who was known as a socialite, rarely leaves his home.

Azizeh's attackers remain at large, although their identity is known to many. Only days before the shooting, Azizeh had refused to withdraw a complaint he had filed against a Muslim driver who killed two of his relatives in a car accident. The driver's family is said to have sought the help of local Fatah militiamen in "persuading" Azizeh to back off.

Regardless of the motive, the case of Azizeh, 72, is seen by many Christians in the context of a campaign allegedly waged by Muslims against the Christian minority in the city. Azizeh, they argue, would not have been targeted had he belonged to one of the large and influential Muslim clans in Bethlehem.

"The Christians here are perceived as easy prey," complains a prominent Christian businessman. "In recent years there has been an upsurge in the number of attacks on Christians in Bethlehem."

Muslim and Christian political leaders in the city strongly deny the existence of an organized anti-Christian campaign, insisting that the violence is mostly the result of "personally motivated" disputes that are unrelated to religion. The victims of crime include both Muslims and Christians, they add, accusing Israel and Jewish organizations of spreading lies about "Muslim persecution" of Christians.

"Reports of Muslim attacks on Christians are wildly exaggerated and you should be careful not to play into the hands of the Israeli propaganda machine," advises Omar al-Khatib, the imam of a mosque in Bethlehem. "Relations between Muslims and Christians have never been better."

Yet off the record, many Christians in Bethlehem who were interviewed during the past week expressed deep concern over increased attacks by Muslims on members of their community. Moreover, most of them said that they were seriously considering moving to the US, Canada and Latin America, where many of their relatives already live.

Jihad, a Christian merchant from the nearby town of Beit Jala, who has been dealing in antique furniture for over 30 years, says he is planning to leave for good to Chile, where at least 80,000 of his townsfolk now live. "There are less than 10,000 Christians living in Beit Jala today," he explains. "There's no future here because of the deteriorating economic conditions."

His friend, George, who used to own a souvenir shop, says he's planning to move next week to Peru, where his brothers and sisters have been living for the past 15 years. The two, who asked to be identified only by their first names, are extremely cautious when the issue of Muslim-Christian relations is raised. "It's true that there have been a number of cases of violence against Christians, but generally speaking the situation is not that bad," George stresses.

Other Christians in Beit Jala disagree. According to a local physician, the plight of the Christians has been aggravated over the past decade in general and since the outbreak of the intifada in particular. "After the Palestinian Authority arrived here in 1995, many Muslim families from Hebron and other parts of the West Bank have moved to Beit Jala," he says. "What's worrying is that some of them have illegally seized privately-owned lands. When one of the Christian owners refused to sell his land to a senior Palestinian security official, he was arrested for a number of days."

In another case, a 60-year-old Christian man was briefly detained by one of the Palestinian security forces because he had forbidden his daughter to date a Muslim security officer. Other Christians who tried to stop Fatah gunmen in Beit Jala from firing into the Jerusalem neighborhood of Gilo in the first years of the intifada later reported that they had been beaten or threatened by the gunmen.

The same gunmen are also responsible for the rape and murder of two Christian teenage sisters from the Amr family. The assailants then claimed that the sisters had been murdered because they were "prostitutes" and had been "collaborating" with Israeli security forces - a claim that has been strongly denied by the victims' relatives and many residents of the town. "The gangsters murdered the two sisters so that they would not tell anyone about the rape," says a family member. "Some of the murderers were later killed by the Israeli army, but others are now living in Europe after they had sought refuge in the Church of Nativity. It's absurd that Muslim men who rape and murder Christian girls are given political asylum in Christian countries like Ireland, Spain and Italy."

Last week Beit Jala was once again the scene of religious tensions after a Christian woman complained that she had been harassed by Muslim men from the village of Beit Awwa in the Hebron area. "Such incidents have become a daily phenomenon," says Mary, who runs a small grocery in the town. "Many Christian families have sent their daughters abroad for fear they would come under attack by Muslim men."

Earlier this year tensions between Muslims and Christians in Bethlehem reached a peak after a Christian family complained that their 16-year-old daughter had been kidnapped by a Muslim man. Following the intervention of senior Palestinian officials and Muslim leaders, the girl was reunited with her family after spending a few days in a village near Hebron. With the help of American diplomats, the girl was flown immediately to the US to begin a new life with relatives and friends.

Some Christians point a finger at the foreign media and diplomatic missions in Israel, accusing them of ignoring their predicament for "political" reasons. "Although most of the foreign journalists and diplomats are Christians, they don't seem to pay enough attention to what's happening to the Christians in Bethlehem," says Bishara, a Christian tourist guide. "They're obviously afraid of damaging their relations with the Palestinian Authority."

While it's almost impossible to find a Christian who's prepared to go public in airing such grievances, Samir Qumsiyeh, a journalist from Beit Sahur, is a notable exception. Last month he was quoted by the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera as saying that Christians were being subjected to rape, kidnapping, extortion and expropriation of land and property.

Qumsiyeh, who was not available this week for an interview because he was out of the country, heads a local TV station called Al-Mahd [Nativity]. In a daring step, Qumsiyeh drew up a list of 93 cases of anti-Christian violence between 2000 and 2004.

"This file is incomplete and it's not up-to-date," he told the Italian newspaper. "Look at the case of Rawan William Mansour, a 17-year-old girl from Bet Sahur. She was raped two years ago by four members of Fatah. Even though the family protested, none of the four was ever arrested. Because of the shame her family was forced to move to Jordan.

"Almost all 140 cases of expropriation of land in the last three years were committed by militant Islamic groups and members of the Palestinian police." Qumsiyeh said he was now preparing a book on the conditions of the Christian minority. "I will call it 'Racism in Action,'" he says. "The racism against us is gaining pace in staggering ways. In 1950 the Christian population in Bethlehem was 75%. Today we have hardly more than 12% Christians. If the situation continues, we won't be here any more in 20 years."

Away from the manger - a Christian-Muslim divide (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1129540575411&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on November 02, 2005, 02:02:49 PM
Quote
Dreamweaver Said:

"Almost all 140 cases of expropriation of land in the last three years were committed by militant Islamic groups and members of the Palestinian police." Qumsiyeh said he was now preparing a book on the conditions of the Christian minority. "I will call it 'Racism in Action,'" he says. "The racism against us is gaining pace in staggering ways. In 1950 the Christian population in Bethlehem was 75%. Today we have hardly more than 12% Christians. If the situation continues, we won't be here any more in 20 years."

Brother, the trend is really becoming clear around the world. The world hates Christians, maybe even worse than they hate Jews. Everyone should realize that the hate factor is the same in America and other countries, but there is just too many of us to deal with here. So, those who hate us try to gain control of the courts and run the things of GOD underground! I, for one, will do everything reasonable and legal that I can to STOP THAT! It's really time to do the opposite of what the world wants us to do. They want Christians to shut up and disappear. Instead, I think we should shout the GOSPEL from the roof- tops. We should be determined to do MORE!, not less! This really might be the last part of the world soon where Christians can still communicate the WORD OF GOD without fear of persecution, prison, or death.

May GOD give us the strength, courage, and determination to do HIS Will until JESUS comes to take us home!

Love In Christ,
Tom

John 17:21-23 NASB  that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one; I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me.


Title: Palestinian cleric: God bless Osama
Post by: Shammu on November 07, 2005, 12:39:54 AM
Palestinian cleric: God bless Osama

Asks Gaza congregation to pray for global terror leader, deputy
Posted: November 6, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – The Palestinian cleric from one of the most popular mosques in the Gaza Strip this weekend asked his congregation to pray for al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden and his deputy Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, explaining the global terror leaders share the Palestinian goals of destroying Israel and ending "American world domination," WND has learned.

The reports are the latest evidence of ideological links between Palestinian groups and al-Qaida, with Israeli security officials saying bin Laden's network infiltrated Gaza last month and is currently operating from the territory.

"May Allah guard and bless Sheikh Osama bin Laden and Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who are both leading the jihad against the Zionist entity and against American domination of the world. Pray for Sheikh bin Laden and Sheikh Zarqawi," said Dr. Jamil Mutaweh, a leader of the large Abu Dur Mosque in Khan Yunis, Palestinian sources in Gaza told WND.

Khan Yunis, a southern Gaza city, is one of the most populated Palestinian towns.

Mutaweh made the comments during his Friday sermon at the mosque, which was particularly crowded this past Friday, Palestinian sources say, because it was the second day of Eid al-Fitr, a three day Muslim holiday that marks the end of Ramadan.

Sources close to the Palestinian Authority told WND the PA has been made aware of Mutaweh's comments and is deciding whether to investigate.

Mutaweh's sermon seems to stress an ideological link between al-Qaida and Palestinian groups.

Reuven Erlich, director of the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at Israel's Center for Special Studies, previously told WND the link can be emphasized through Palestinian cleric Dr. Abdullah Azzam, who was al-Qaida's ideologue and, until Azzam's death, Osama bin Laden's spiritual mentor.

"We found Azzam's picture on Hamas posters from Gaza and a lot of Hamas' material," said Erlich. "Azzam's portrait in materials reveal that he is perceived by Hamas as one of the four 'outstanding figures' of the Islamic 'struggle' in Palestine and around the world."

Mutaweh's speech also comes as Israeli security officials tell WND al-Qaida is present in the Gaza Strip and is seeking to attack the Jewish state.

"Al-Qaida operatives took advantage of the opened Rafah border [with Egypt immediately following Israel's withdrawal from the area last month] and entered Gaza," said Maj. Gen. Aharon Zeevi Farkash, chief of intelligence for the Israeli Defense Forces.

Following Israel's troop withdrawal Sept. 12, Gaza's border with Egypt was wide open, with thousands of Palestinians – including known terrorissts – passing freely from one side to the other for a period of at least six days.

Egyptian officials attempted to close the border several times, but Hamas and other terror groups managed to reopen the crossing, once using a controlled explosion along the border fence and another time ramming a dump truck through the border wall.

Palestinian officials admitted to reporters terror groups were able to smuggle tons of weapons into Gaza, including explosives, ammunition and rocket-propelled grenades that had long been stockpiled in Sinai, but denied al-Qaida was present.

"These reports are baseless," chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told WND. "Egypt did a good job in cracking down on cells in their country, and they wouldn't have allowed any al-Qaida people to get into Gaza."

An aide to Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei told WND on condition of anonymity, "It would certainly be against our interests to say al-Qaida was in our territory."

Hamas chief Mahmoud al-Zohar went so far as to accuse Israel of sending fake al-Qaida agents into Gaza so it can claim the global jihad group was liaising with Palestinian organizations.

"All these talks about the presence of al-Qaida is Israeli talks and propaganda," said al-Zahar in an exclusive WND interview.

"We know that Israel tried through its agents to have contacts with marginal activists in the Palestinian resistance. The agents represented themselves as al-Qaida members and tried to tempt these people with money and weapons. This is part of the Israeli effort to represent things even though they are not that way in order to say that al-Qaida exists in the Gaza Strip," al-Zahar said.

But WND reported last week some members of al-Zarah's Hamas have become disillusioned with the terror group, renouncing their membership and instead trying to form their own al-Qaida network.

Palestinian cleric: God bless Osama (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47249)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 10, 2005, 09:23:27 AM
Peretz vows to achieve peace, security for Israel
By Yair Ettinger, Mazal Mualem and Daniel Ben-Simon, Haaretz Correspondents

Several hours after he was announced as the new leader of the Labor Party, Histadrut Chairman Amir Peretz on Thursday returned to his political roots to outline his political vision as the Labor candidate for premiership.

The victory is an unexpected result and a blow to the Labor old guard by Histadrut labor federation chairman Amir Peretz who was named Thursday morning the new chairman of the Labor Party, defeating the incumbent and favorite, Vice Premier Shimon Peres.

Speaking near the grave of slain prime minister Yitzhak Rabin at the Mount Hertzl cemetery in Jerusalem, Peretz stressed that reaching a peace accord with the Palestinians is at the top of his political priority list.

"We will not rest until we reach a permanent agreement (with the Palestinians) that would secure a safe future for our children and that would provide us with renewed hope to live in a region where people lead a life of cooperation and not, God forbid, where blood is shed from time to time," Peretz said.

The new Labor chairman emphasized this move is a direct continuation of Rabin's political heritage: "I came today to make a vow to Rabin, once again, that I intend to do everything I can to continue his way, I intend to do everything I can so that [Rabin's] assassin would know he failed to murder peace."

Peretz recounted his long tenure as a loyal supporter of the late prime minister: "I was by Rabin's side in the days he struggled for his place in Israeli politics, I was with him in his days of isolation, and also in the days of overwhelming support from the people of Israel when they flooded him with warmth and admiration. I was also next to him on that dreadful night when we lost Yitzhak (Rabin) in the murder that shocked Israel and sought to severe and end his life and his way."

Soon after the official results were announced, the new Labor chief quickly reiterated his intention of pulling the party out of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's government, propelling the country into political disarray and advancing the likelihood of early general elections.

"We will notify the prime minister that we want to leave. We want to leave... certainly out of a desire to turn the Labor Party into an alternative that intends to take power in the next elections," he said.

"Amir will discuss with the prime minister an agreed date for an election," said Yuli Tamir, a Labor legislator and Peretz supporter.

Winner of a tightly-run race
The voting result, which came at dawn, followed a tightly-run race between the two opponents, which initially showed a slight lead for Peres.

Peretz, a fiery union leader, wants to steer the party back to its socialist roots, pull out of the coalition and force early elections. His message has resonated with Israelis disenfranchised by government cuts in social spending and the country's growing gap between rich and poor.

Shortly after 6 A.M., amid cheering from Peretz's supporters, Labor Secretary-General Eitan Cabel announced that Peretz had won with 42.35 percent of the votes, while Peres was backed by 39.96 percent of voters. In third place was Benjamin Ben Eliezer, with 16.82 percent of the vote.

Cabel was quick to rebuff claims of fraud and irregularities in the elections, which caused Peres to issue a last minute call for a halt in the count.

The release of the vote's final results was stalled by several hours as the Labor election committee, led by Cabel, headed early Thursday morning to the vote counting center in Petah Tikva after several claims of fraud in polling stations.

Peres appeals against results
In a pre-dawn press conference, Peres called on Labor's legal institutions to look into claims of severe irregularities in polling stations in Sderot and Be'er Sheva, two Peretz strongholds.

Some of the vote results "raised exceptional doubts," Peres said. "It is unreasonable that in communities where I had a majority I have now dropped to seven votes."

"I expected a better evening," Peres said.

Sitting alongside Peres, former prime minister Ehud Barak said the outcome of the primaries did not reflect the will of the party's voters.

But several hours later, the election committee announced it had rejected Peres' claims of fraud and okayed the completing of the counting of the votes in the remaining 13 polling stations from a total of 318.

Peretz did not immediately respond to the accusations, but his supporters were already claiming victory.

The Peretz camp erupted into celebrations when the Histadrut chief took the lead in the vote count early Thursday, and Israel Radio said he was headed to party headquarters to make an announcement. The uncounted districts were believed to favor Peretz, and Israeli radio stations said his victory was imminent.

Implications for government
The outcome of the vote will have wide-ranging implications for the future of Sharon's shaky governing coalition, in which Labor is the junior member.

Peres had said that he would keep Labor in the government until the next elections scheduled in November 2006.

The 82-year-old politician led Labor into the government this year to shore up support for Sharon's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip. The pullout divided Sharon's Likud Party, and without Labor support, the plan could not have been carried out.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 10, 2005, 09:30:30 AM
11/10/2005 - 10:16
CHRONOLOGY-Ethiopian immigration to Israel

Israel said earlier this year it would double the pace of Jewish immigration from the Horn of Africa nation in order to bring out the remaining Falasha Mura members by 2007.
1973: Status of Ethiopian Jews is formally decided by Israeli chief rabbis who determine they are descendants of the Jewish biblical tribe of Dan and entitled to immigrate.

1984: Under tight military censorship, Israel brings 12,000 Ethiopians to the Jewish state in a secret airlift through Sudan known as Operation Moses.

1985: Israeli magazine breaks censorship in interview with Israeli immigration official. The story appears worldwide. Sudan, a Muslim country, responds angrily to disclosure of its involvement, halting airlift.

1989: Israel and Ethiopia restore diplomatic relations, bringing hope to those awaiting stranded relatives.

1990: Under a family re-unification programme, then-President Mengistu Haile Mariam allows Jewish emigration but interrupts it several times. About 3,500 arrive in the year.

1991: Planeloads of Ethiopians arrive several times a week with about 350 passengers each in what Israel dubbed "Operation Solomon". About 2,000 Ethiopian Jews arrive in Israel by February. In March, immigration stops abruptly. In May, Mengistu flees to Zimbabwe. Israel airlifts out more
than 15,000 Ethiopian Jews.

2003: Ethiopia blocks a plan by Israel to move the Falasha Mura to Israel.

2004: Following a visit by Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, Israel says it plans to start moving the remaining 20,000 Ethiopians of Jewish origin to Israel.

2005: Prime Minister Ariel Sharon approves the decision to allow 700 Falasha Mura a month to fly to Israel.

In September, about 1,000 members of the Falasha Mura group begin a three-day hunger-strike in Addis Ababa to complain of delays in their promised transfer to Israel.

Ethiopia agrees to step up immigration to a monthly 600 people to Israel, double the previous number.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 10, 2005, 08:42:23 PM
PA police: Our guns are aimed at Israel

By Ryan Jones
November 10th, 2005

In an ominous letter to PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas, a large number of Palestinian Authority security officers confirmed Israeli's worst fears regarding the “Oslo” peace process – the guns Israel allowed them to obtain are to be used against Jews and their allies only, not terrorists.

The Arabs “know very well that if they use these guns against us once, at that moment the Oslo Accords will be annulled and the IDF will return to all the places that have been given to them,” late-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin warned after signing that agreement with Yasser Arafat in 1993.

Rabin's words were neither heeded nor backed up.

Despite “Palestinian” police officers having turned their weapons on Israelis numerous times over the past decade, the “peace” process has rolled on.

In fact, many members of recognized terrorist organizations actually double as PA policemen. Abbas is trying to add more by bringing his Fatah faction's Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades into the fold.

But if the man Washington insists is a “moderate” thinks such a move will lessen, at least temporarily, the violence between those he governs and Israel, this week's letter sought to set him straight.

According to The Jerusalem Post, the officers who attached their names to the document stressed “that their weapons would be used only against Israel and suspected collaborators” - those Palestinian Arabs that, in the spirit of “Oslo,” cooperate with Israel in the war against Islamic terror.

Cracking down on terror groups such as Hamas in compliance with US and Israeli demands is out of the question, the officers wrote.

“We are the soldiers of the homeland, not [US security coordinator] General William Ward. Neither are we a branch of the Israeli Shin Bet nor members of a hired gang serving certain centers of power.”

They also cautioned Abbas over the rampant corruption and cronyism his regime has facilitated, and which threatens to tear the security forces apart.

“We urge you to get acquainted with what's really happening inside the security forces, which have begun disintegrating because of corruption, mismanagement and placing private interests above the national interests of the people,” the officers wrote.

The letter appeared to contradict Abbas' recent claims that he has taken concrete steps to reform security in line with his Road Map commitments, as well as recent upbeat US State Department assessments concerning the situation within the PA.

PA officials attempted to play down the letter, telling the Post “it was written by a group of disgruntled officers who had been retired or dismissed.”

In another challenge to Abbas' rule, several long-serving PLO ambassadors originally placed by Yasser Arafat have refused to relinquish their posts to new appointees.

These incidents again called into question the validity of Israel relying on the Abbas-run PA as a peace partner capable of enforcing the laws born out of any final peace agreement.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 12, 2005, 01:11:53 PM
Pakistan to Recognize Israel on Condition
By Anadolu News Agency (aa)
Published: Saturday, November 12, 2005


Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has said his country will recognize Israel when the Palestinian state is founded.

Musharraf received American Jewish Council head Jack Rosen, according to a statement issued by the President's Spokesman Shaukat Sultan and he said an independent state of Palestine is "sine quo non" for Pakistanis to officially recognize Israel. In response, Rosen conveyed Israel wished to establish diplomatic, commercial, and economic relations with Pakistanis.

Rosen also expressed Israel wants friendship with Pakistan, noting the Jewish congregation in the United States is collecting donations for the earthquake survivors in Pakistan.

 


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 12, 2005, 01:16:56 PM
Bush: Radicals want to destroy Israel

 

Terror groups seeking more economic, military and political power 'to advance their stated agenda: to develop weapons of mass destruction, destroy Israel, intimidate Europe, assault American people, and to blackmail our government into isolation,' Bush says
Ynet

 
President George W. Bush on Saturday defended his decision to go to war in Iraq in a speech focusing on terrorism, saying that terror groups are exploiting Islam to justify their attacks and "push for the establishment of a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom."

 

Speaking at the Tobyhanna Army Depot, Pennsylvania, Bush said that the ultimate aim of Islamic radicalism is to destroy Israel, arguing that terror groups seek “greater economic, military and political power” which will enable them “to advance their stated agenda: to develop weapons of mass destruction; to destroy Israel; to intimidate Europe; to assault the American people; and to blackmail our government into isolation.”

 

Bush offered no concessions to “these extremists” who “have used a litany of excuses for violence: the Israeli presence on the West Bank, the U.S. military presence in Saudi Arabia, the defeat of the Taliban, or the Crusades of a thousand years ago. In fact, we're not facing a set of grievances that can be soothed and addressed. We're facing a radical ideology with inalterable objectives: to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world.”

 

In a clear assault on his critics Bush refuted claims that the war in Iraq has fueled terrorism. He warned that the free world should not underestimate the threat posed by a radical ideology that serves a clear set of evil goals.

 

With his popularity at an all-time low Bush reminded the American people that it is forbidden for the United States to withdraw from Iraq under mounting insurgencies and attacks aginat Iraqi and U.S. troops. “Against such an enemy, there is only one effective response: We will never back down, we will never give in, we will never accept anything less than complete victory,” Bush said.

 

Bush did not fail to touch on Syria and Iran, calling Damascus and Tehran authoritarian regimes, and accusing the two states of harboring
terror groups. “The influence of Islamic radicalism is also magnified by helpers and enablers. They've been sheltered by authoritarian regimes, allies of convenience, like Iran and Syria, that share the goal of hurting America and modern Muslim governments and use terrorist propaganda to blame their own failures on the West, on America and on the Jews,” he said.

 

Bush mentioned a recent “strident speech” by Syrian President Bashar Assad whom he accused of trying to intimidate and destabilize the Lebanese government, and reminded Damascus that it “must do what the international community has demanded: cooperate fully with the Mehlis investigation, and stop trying to intimidate and destabilize the Lebanese government. The government of Syria must stop exporting violence and start importing democracy.”

 


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 12, 2005, 01:32:45 PM
There is still a big push going on to attempt to bring all Jews home and thereby bring the end times to a head.

_______________________________


 An Invitation to Return Home
by Eli Newman
November 10, 2005

If there's ever been a time to think seriously about making aliyah, that time is now.

Our people have been praying to the Almighty throughout the centuries for the Final Redemption. Our sages have instructed us that in the End of Days, preceding the Final Redemption, our people will have begun returning home in considerable numbers. This process is already well underway.

Right now, the majority of the global Jewish population still resides outside of Israel, but not by much. Every Jewish soul that relocates to Israel counts for two in this calculation; one towards increasing Israel's Jewish population, and one towards decreasing the number of Jews residing outside of Israel.

Religious or Political?

Whichever school of thought you're coming from, the Jewish Homeland is, was and will be in the Land of Israel. Not the United States, not the United Kingdom and certainly not Uganda. Still, after so many generations of wandering, "Next Year in Jerusalem" has lost meaning for some of us. Why stand and wave a flag at a pro-Israel rally in Washington, London or Toronto, when you can be contributing daily by living in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa or Netanya?

It baffles me to hear Jews in the Diaspora complaining about Israel trading land for promises of peace with the Palestinians. I'm not a fan of these policies either, only because I don't believe they will be successful. However, as long as I'm not living in Israel, paying taxes in Israel, serving in the IDF, celebrating holidays on holy land or voting in Israel, who am I to complain?

G-d has shifted history for us such that we now have the option of going home without considerable difficulty, compared with the previous generations, who faced much peril on their road to Jerusalem.

Imagine if Nefesh B'Nefesh had been available to the Jews of Eastern Europe in the early 20th century? Or to the Jews of Spain in the Middle Ages?

What is Nefesh B'Nefesh?

Are you serious? If you still haven't heard of Nefesh B'Nefesh (NBN), I'd be honored and delighted to tell you a little bit about them.

NBN is a non-profit organization dedicated to bringing Jews home. They've been at it for a few years so far. They help in so many ways. NBN has entire departments devoted to helping new olim find jobs and communities to live in. They also provide financial assistance to eligible applicants to help them get started.

Big Picture

We've been all over the world throughout our history. Often from one exile into the next. The only place left to go is home. North America is currently home to the majority of our people. Next is Israel, followed by England and France. When the majority of our people have settled in Israel, interesting things are sure to happen. In a political sense, most likely, and in a religious sense, most certainly.

What are you waiting for? Moshiach? It's coming. The Rambam said so. I believe him.

Seasonal Sentimentality

Following the holiday of Sukkot, let's keep in mind the differences between all that is temporary and all that is permanent. In starting to read the Torah again, let's try to understand it better this year.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 13, 2005, 01:40:54 PM
'Lost tribe' still dreaming of Israel

Community is mentally and physically prepared to get converted to Judaism and leave for promised land
Associated Press

GAUHATI, India - Thousands of people in a remote corner of India who claim to be members of a lost tribe of Israel are pressing ahead with their studies of Judaism in hopes of moving to the Jewish state, community leaders said.

 
Israel on Wednesday announced it would stop the conversions of the 6,000 Bnei Menashe in the wake of complaints from the Indian government. Instead, Israel said it would allow them to emigrate and then perform the conversions.

 
Members of the group from the northeastern Indian states of Mizoram and Manipur call themselves the "Bnei Menashe," or children of Menashe, and believe they are descendants of the Israelite tribe of Manasseh.

 
"We are aware of the Israeli government decision, but our people have not lost hope," Jeremiah Hnamte, adviser of the Bnei Menashe Council, told The Associated Press from Aizawl, capital of Mizoram.

 
The community "are mentally and physically prepared to get converted to Judaism and leave for their promised land," he said.

 

Recognized

 
Earlier this year, an Israeli chief rabbi recognized the Bnei Menashe as one of the 10 lost tribes of Israel, ruling that they followed several Jewish traditions. The rabbi, Shlomo Amar, ordered their formal conversions to Orthodox Judaism, which would be crucial to their recognition as Jews by Israeli religious authorities.

 
Bnei Menashe members believe they are descendants of Jews who were banished from biblical Israel by the Assyrians in the eighth century B.C.E. and gradually worked their way eastward to India. In the 19th century, British missionaries to India converted the Bnei Menashe members - who were then animists - to Christianity.

 
In September, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office sent six rabbis to India, who converted 600 members of the tribe to Judaism to ensure they could immigrate to Israel under state law.

 

Delhi's concerns

 
But New Delhi expressed concerns after the mass conversions.

 
Hnamte said the rabbis returned to Israel after being turned away from Manipur state.

 
Instead of converting the Bnei Menashe in their home region of northeastern India, the rabbis will now wait to convert them after Israel brings them to the Jewish state, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said.

 
The Bnei Menashe continue to prepare for their conversions with the help of community members who have already undergone the process.

 
"I am still carrying out my job as I have not received any fresh instructions from the Rabbinate," said Rabbi Yahuda Gin, who originally hails from Mizoram and returned to Aizawl about four months ago to teach the Bnei Menashe the finer points of the religion.

 
"These are matters of faith, not governmental affairs, and, therefore, our work should go on," Gin told The Associated Press.

 

800 in Israel

 

Gin said he was sent with the consent of Amar.

 
About 800 members of the Bnei Menashe have been brought to Israel - and formally converted - over the last decade by the private group Amishav, Hebrew for "my people returns."

 
According to Amishav, there is ample evidence to show the Bnei Menashe are of Jewish descent. Their customs, including mourning rites, hygiene and the use of a lunar calendar, closely mirror Jewish traditions.

 


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 13, 2005, 01:45:20 PM
Israel Approves EU Role at the Rafah Border Crossing

By BICOM

IHC Abstract
Israel is prepared to involve a third party in the supervision of the Rafah border crossing, namely the European Union. Whereas in the past Israel has been reluctant to involve international bodies in security arrangements between Israelis and Palestinians, now it is open to granting the EU an active role in administering the Rafah border crossing. The Palestinian Authority, on the other hand, is disinclined to give the EU an active role, preferring instead to limit EU involvement to an advisory position.

Starting 1 January 2006, the Rafah terminal will serve Palestinian citizens and holders of VIP accreditation who wish to enter and leave Gaza for Egypt. It will also be used for goods leaving Gaza and entering Egypt. Goods entering Gaza from Egypt will be processed at a new terminal to be built at the Israeli-Palestinian-Egyptian border tri-point at Kerem Shalom, to the south of Rafah.

BICOM perceives this imminent development as a welcome change in Israel’s uncompromising predispositions. It believes this about-face will open up the possibility for international expertise and goodwill to help Israel and the Palestinians to move towards peaceful relations.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 13, 2005, 01:47:21 PM
Bush singles out Israel – again

By Ryan Jones

November 13th, 2005

For the third time in recent weeks, US President George W. Bush Friday pointed to defense of Israel as a major reason behind American's ongoing global war against Islamic terrorism.

“With the greater economic and military and political power they seek, the terrorists would be able to advance their stated agenda -- to develop weapons of mass destruction, to destroy Israel, to intimidate Europe, to assault the American people and to blackmail our government into isolation.”

So said Bush in a Veteran's Day address, repeating the exact words used in two previous speeches explaining is determination not to prematurely withdraw from Iraq and relinquish his quest to smash the forces of Islamic terror.

Bush noted that while these goals may seem far fetched, “fanatical and extreme...they should not be dismissed.”

“Our enemy is utterly committed,” the president warned.

While Bush correctly and unashamedly identified the enemy as adherents of Islam, he also attempted to paint that religion as a faith of peace and tolerance which a scattered few killers are twisting and exploiting.

“These extremists distort the idea of jihad into a call for terrorist murder against Christians and Hindus and Jews and against Muslims themselves who do not share their radical vision.”

In holding to this position, the president is ignoring that fact that polls and demonstrations throughout the Middle East regularly show widespread – frequently majority – public support for terrorism against the West, and in particular against Israel.

Following the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington DC, for example, Arab Muslims across this region burst forth in joyous celebration. From Cairo to Damascus to Ramallah, candies were passed out to mark Osama bin Laden's successful strike at the heart of America.




Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 13, 2005, 02:22:34 PM
 Islamic Radicals Plan World Revolution from Temple Mount
Sunday, November 13, 2005 / 11 Cheshvan 5766

Islamic radicals have been using the Temple Mount as a focal point for planning and preaching the establishment of a world Islamic state with Jerusalem as its capital.

One of the radical groups operating on the Temple Mount is Hizab Altahrir (The Islamic Liberation Party), which espouses an ideology similar to Al Qaeda. Hizab Altahrir’s network spans most Western European countries. The party puts Islamic revolution and an uncompromising form of Jihad (holy war) at the top of its political agenda.

The group advocates subjecting the entire world to Islamic law (Shariya), and destroying non-believing nations and religions.


Hizab Altahrir’s activity, however, is not limited to the Temple Mount. The group is sending out charismatic Islamic preachers to spread its radical ideology to mosques in villages near Jerusalem, Hebron, Kalkilya, and Tulkarem.

Last October, during Ramadan, when large numbers of Moslems visit mosques, the party expanded its efforts to recruit new members and activists.

Thousands of young Arabs living in the Palestinian Authority have been participating in the party’s youth movement under the slogan, “Campaigning to Preach Revolution.”

On the Temple Mount, near the Dome of the Rock, Altahrir’s youth recently put up a giant banner declaring “Revolution is a Divine Command.” The party’s flag appears on the right and left hand side of the banner. (See photo above). The youth were greeted by party members who shouted, “Next year in Jerusalem, under the rule of the Islamic revolution.”

The party has targeted Europe, specifically Denmark, for spreading its revolutionary ideology, and providing a springboard for renewing Islamic conquests in Europe. A senior party activist in Jerusalem, Sheikh Issam Amira, expressed this philosophy in a recent speech which he made on the Temple Mount:

“Listeners! The Moslems in Denmark make up three percent [of the population], yet constitute a threat to the future of the Danish kingdom. It’s no surprise that in Bitrab (the ancient name of Medina, a city in Arabia to which Mohammed immigrated) they were fewer than three percent of the general population, but succeeded changing the regime in Bitrab.

“It’s no surprise that our brothers in Denmark have succeeded in bringing Islam to every home in that country. Allah will grant us victory in their land to establish the [Islamic] revolution in Denmark.”

After Denmark, the Sheikh said, the party will carry the revolution to Oslo and change its name to Medina. “They will fight against their Scandinavian neighbors in order to bring the country into the territory of the revolution,” he said. “In the next stage, they will fight a holy jihad to spread Islam to the rest of Europe, until it spreads to the original city of Medina where the two cities will unite under the Islamic flag.”

Sheikh Riyad Salah, head of the Islamic movement in Israel has also been active teaching the tenets of “Islamic revolution.”

“We are at the gates of the Islamic revolution,” he proclaimed in one of his sermons to Arab citizens of Israel. “The global forces of evil will be eliminated from the world and the Islamic nation will remain in place in order to bring about the world Islamic revolution, with its capital, Jerusalem.”

Salah, who until a few months ago was under arrest for allegedly assisting an organization connected to the Hamas terror group, has for a number of years been attempting to organize Israel’s Arab citizens into an “independent Palestinian society,” disconnected from the State of Israel and its institutions.

Salah’s organization has also contributed to efforts to repair Arab mosques on the Temple Mount, and attempts to erase the remains of Jewish antiquities on the Mount.





Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 15, 2005, 12:49:07 PM
 PA Hopes For Arab Majority in Land of Israel by 2010
11:11 Nov 15, '05 / 13 Cheshvan 5766

(IsraelNN.com) According to the Palestinian Authority's Bureau of Statistics, there are 4.7 Arabs in the Land of Israel (between the Jordan River and the Medditeranean).

The PA envisions that by 2010 there will be an Arab majority in the region. "At that point we will tell the Israelis that we are offering them an Israeli State," read a statement from the Bureau.

The PA hopes to speed the demographic growth through importing Arabs from throughout the Middle East to Gaza in order to threaten Israel with the demand for a binational state between the river and the sea that would be an Arab one.

Recent demographic studies have undercut many of the methods used by the PA Statistics Bureau however.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 17, 2005, 01:19:44 PM
Iran admits satellite can spy on Israel

November 17, 2005

BY ALI AKBAR DAREINI

TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran said the satellite would be purely scientific. But a month after its launch -- and only weeks after the president said Israel should be wiped off the map -- the head of Tehran's space program now says the Sina-1 is capable of spying on the Jewish state.

The launch of the Russian-made satellite into orbit aboard a Russian rocket last month marked the beginning of Iran's space program. Officials say a second satellite -- this one Iranian-built -- will be launched in about two months, heightening Israeli concerns.

The Sina-1's stated purpose is to take pictures of Iran and to monitor natural disasters in the earthquake-prone nation. But as it orbits the Earth, with controllers able to point its cameras as they wish, Sina-1 gives Iran a limited space reconnaissance capability over the entire Middle East.

''Sina-1 is a research satellite. It's not possible to use it for military purposes,'' said Deputy Telecom Minister Ahmad Talebzadeh, who heads the space program.

But he agreed it could spy on Israel.

''Technically speaking, yes. It can monitor Israel,'' he said. ''But we don't need to do it. You can buy satellite photos of Israeli streets from the market.''

Iran also has said its nuclear program is peaceful, aimed at producing electricity -- though the United States believes the program secretly aims to produce nuclear weapons.



(My Notes: This is not entirely true. It is capable of low level Military useage such as reconnaissance and UHF and VHF communications. Something else to note here is that it has a shelf life of three years.)



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 30, 2005, 01:12:07 PM
 Rabbi: Disengage from State

In new book, Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe says Israel should be replaced with ‘true Kingdom of David,’ calls on followers to refrain from praying for Jewish state’s wellbeing. ‘We are now in exile,’ he says
Efrat Weiss

A prominent Jewish messianist has called for religious Jews to disengage from the State of Israel due to the evacuation of Jewish communities in the Gaza Strip last summer.

 
In a new book entitled "Between Light and Darkness," Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe, a leader of the Chabad Chassidic sect that believes its chief rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson is the messiah, says religious Jews should view the secular government as an "administrative body, like the British government who controlled Israel before the country’s establishment.

 
Wolpe also says, "The religious Zionist public should prove that the State is unholy, and cannot serve as a means for achieving salvation. It must not pray for the country's wellbeing. We are now in exile and are waiting for the kingdom of the house of David."

 
Wolpe's call represents a sharp change from traditional Chabad-Lubavich thinking and match similar calls by some segments of the national-religious community to disengage from the State in reaction to the Gaza disengagement. While Chabad, like most ultra-orthodox groups, has always been reticent about secular Zionism, group members serve in the army and have rejected insular approach of other orthodox groups in favor of engaging the secular world in order to encourage Jews to observe the mitzvoth, or commandments

 

Sharon a 'false Messiah'

 
The cover of "Between Light and Darkness" carries a picture of the lit Temple's Menorah, and underneath it a darkened picture of the Knesset's building.

 
In the book itself, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is referred to as a "false Messiah" and as Haman, the historic nemesis of the Jewish people.

 
The bulk of the book is dedicated to the disengagement plan and to the uncertainties it spurred within the religious Zionist public.

 
"So many prayers were said from the bottom of the heart in the last year, in a bid to prevent the eviction and destruction," Wolpe writes. "The heart must wonder, why did God do this to this land? How is it possible that such a wicked man like the prime minister was able to jump over so many political hurdles, until he achieved his goal, the crime of the withdrawal" he asks, and answers:

 
"It is we that gave him the power. We determined that him, his state and his government are the beginning of our salvation. We blessed him before an open bible every Saturday. With such powers, it is no wonder that the false messiah storms forward without stopping, while taking his devotees and the rest of the Israeli people down to the abyss with him."

 
‘Replace Israel with true Kingdom of David’

 
According to Wolpe, the pullout was a sign from God that there is no relation between the existence of the democratic state and salvation, and that the religious public should therefore cease to believe in the holiness of the State and its institutions.

 
Referring to the religious Zionist teens who forcefully attempted to prevent the disengagement, Wolpe writes that "the Orange youth prays only for one thing: That the current rule, which is called 'the State of Israel' is abolished and replaced with the true Kingdom of David."

 
In the post-pullout period, Wolpe's ideas are not a rare sight among the rightist public. In a conference held in Jerusalem a few days ago, the participants wholeheartedly supported the principles expressed in the book, and thousands danced to the words of the song, "we do not believe in the rule of the heretics, and disregard their laws."

 



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 05, 2005, 02:49:23 PM
Russia’s Foreign Minister Confirms Arms Deal with Iran

Russia has struck a deal to sell short-range, surface-to-air missiles to Iran, the defense minister said Monday, confirming reports that have raised concern in the United States and Israel, AP reported.

Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov didn’t give details. But Russian media have said that Moscow agreed in November to sell $1 billion worth of weapons to Iran, including up to 30 Tor-M1 missile systems over the next two years.

“A contract for the delivery of air defense Tor missiles to Iran has indeed been signed,” Ivanov was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

“This unequivocally does not change the balance of forces in the region,” Ivanov added. Tor M1 missiles are short-range, surface-to-air missiles already used by several other armed forces, including China.

The reports last week prompted expressions of concern from the U.S administration and Israel, which considers Iran to be its biggest threat.

Israeli concerns recently were heightened after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad urged that Israel be “wiped off the map.”
Interfax said the Tor-M1 system could identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously at a height of up to 20,000 feet.

On Saturday, an influential Iranian official played down the deal, telling the official Islamic Republic News Agency that Tehran has been trading arms with many countries and would continue to do so.

The Russian Foreign Ministry, without commenting on the reported missile sale, also said Saturday that all Russian weaponry supplied to Iran is purely for defensive purposes.

However, a senior Bush administration official, who declined to be named because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the subject, said last week that any arms sale to Iran is a source of concern. The official would not say whether Russia had advised the United States of any negotiations with Iran.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 06, 2005, 05:25:33 AM
Iran threatens counter-strike

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman says recent Israeli statements on Iran's nuclear project show Israeli government is frustrated from failure to bring international community to pressure Iran: 'Zionist authorities are well aware that if they make a foolish mistake against Iran, Iran's harsh response will be destructive and determined'
Roee Nahmias

An Iranian foreign ministry spokesman, Hamid Riza Asaffi, speaking with journalists in Teheran, said that recent Israeli statements on Iran's nuclear project showed that the Israeli government is frustrated from a failure to bring pressure from the international community to on Iran.

 
He claimed that a "serious crisis" within the "Zionist authorities" was the main factor behind what he described as Israeli threats. His comments were reported by the Islamic Republic News Agency.

"The Zionist authorities are well aware that if they make a foolish mistake against Iran, Iran's harsh response will be destructive and determined," said the spokesman. "Their approach comes from their anger over the fact that they can't realize their plans," he added.

 

Earlier, Benjamin Netanyahu told the Voice of Israel national radio network that "Israel must take every necessary step to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Iran must be prevented from developing this threat to the State of Israel. If, by the elections, the current government works to achieve this, I will give it my full support – and if it does not, I intend on establishing the next government, and then we'll act."

 
Meretz-Yahad faction head Yossi Beilin said that narrow considerations based on elections will drag Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Netanyahu to harsh comments that will be perceived as support for military action against Iran. Beilin said Israel must work for diplomatic activity to be led by the United States without endangering Israel in a confrontation with Iran with potentially disastrous consequences.

 

Also on Sunday the head of Tehran's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Alaeddin Boroujerdi was quoted saying by Tehran's official news agency IRNA that Iran's Atomic Energy Organization has been given license to set up another 20 nuclear plants, two of them by March 2006.

 

Iran's first nuclear plant is being built by Russia for USD 1 billion and is scheduled to begin operating by March 2006.

 

'Diplomatic pressure won't work'

 

According to Boroujerdi, the new power plants will be able to generate 20,000 megawatts of electricity. However, international and Israeli intelligence sources claim the program may be a front to build an atomic bomb, an allegation Iran's vigorously denies.

 
Last week Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said “Israel and other countries cannot accept a situation where Iran has nuclear arms.

 
“The issue is clear to us and we are making all the necessary preparations to handle a situation of this kind,” Sharon told journalists in Tel Aviv.

 
Israel needs not lead the campaign, yet we are in close contact with countries that are dealing with the issue,” the prime minister said.

 

Sharon said he agrees with U.S. President George W. Bush that dealing with Iran’s push for nuclear armament is a top priority, adding that he hoped the “large danger will be dealt with” by referring Iran to the United Nations Security Council.

 

“Israel is not hopeless and is taking all the necessary measures,” Sharon said.

 

IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz told foreign reporters Sunday he is skeptical that diplomatic pressure will put a halt to Iran's nuclear ambitions.

 

"The fact that the Iranians are successful time after time in getting away from international pressure...encourages them to continue their nuclear project," he said.

 

"I believe that the political means used by the Europeans and the U.S. to convince the Iranians to stop the project will not succeed," Halutz added.

 



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 07, 2005, 12:48:27 AM
In wake of Netanya suicide bombing that kills five, wounds 95: IDF to intensify response to attacks
By Ze'ev Schiff

In the wake of the Netanya suicide bombing and the constant barrage of Qassam rockets on communities in the south of the country, Israel has decided to adopt a harsher response to the rocket fire. Israeli artillery fire against the Qassam launchers that had been aimed, for the most part, only at open areas will now be directed also at built-up areas from where the rockets are being fired.

Ahead of the artillery fire at the built-up areas, the Israel Defense Forces will employ loudspeakers to ask the Palestinian residents to clear the area.

Yesterday's bombing, which left five people dead and dozens wounded, marked the fourth time Islamic Jihad has carried out a terror attack inside Israel since the Palestinian organization declared a period of "calm." Most of the recent Qassam rocket fire from the Gaza Strip is also being carried out by Islamic Jihad.

Because the Palestinian Authority has thus far failed to take any action against Islamic Jihad, Israel has decided to adopt a harsher response in the Gaza Strip, which is under full PA control. Israel will also focus attention on the Islamic Jihad network in the West Bank.

The decisions follow consultations last night between Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz.

Israel will also intensify its political pressure on the PA, in an effort to get Chairman Mahmoud Abbas to take action against Islamic Jihad.

In the West Bank, the IDF's operations against the Islamic Jihad infrastructure in Jenin will be expanded to include Tul Karm and Nablus. In the wake of the disengagement from the Gaza Strip, however, the situation is more complex. There, the PA has thousands of armed personnel, but is allowing a state of anarchy to prevail.

Israel charges that Islamic Jihad is a relatively small organization that is supported by Syria and Iran, and is undermining the period of "calm." Islamic Jihad has not signed the agreement among the Palestinian organizations, but Israeli officials say it is causing serious damage to any possible political process.

Unlike Hamas, Islamic Jihad has no intention of participating in the elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in January.

Until now, the IDF has made some 1,200 arrests in its operations against Islamic Jihad in the West Bank. The detainees, for the most part, are Jihad activists and supporters.

Military officials had originally believed that the IDF's operations in the West Bank had dealt a harsh blow to the Jihad network in the area, with an intelligence official commenting recently that the army's operations had disrupted some two-thirds of this network.

How did he get in?

Nevertheless, it appears that in order to carry out a suicide attack inside Israel, Islamic Jihad is able to do so with what remains of its infrastructure in the West Bank.

The Shin Bet security service had general information on advanced preparations for a suicide attack, but apparently the intelligence was not sufficiently specific.

The Shin Bet must also try to locate the individual who drove the suicide bomber to his target; and it remains unclear whether the terrorist crossed into Israel in the area of the so-called Jerusalem envelope, and was then driven to Netanya, or managed to get through one of the checkpoints, possibly with the help of forged Israeli documents.

At last night's meeting, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz also decided to impose a full closure on the territories, commenting during the discussions that it would not be fitting for Palestinian workers to be allowed to enter Israel on the day of the funerals of the bombing victims.

The Karni crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip, however, will remain open for the passage of goods.

Mofaz has also asked Attorney General Menachem Mazuz to reinstate the practice of demolishing the homes of the families of suicide bombers. These house demolitions were suspended a few months ago in the wake of a recommendation by a military committee that found they were of no benefit.

Mofaz accepted the recommendation, but believes now that in light of the repeated attempts by Islamic Jihad to carry out suicide attacks in Israel, the house demolitions should be reinstated as a deterrent.

Mofaz told Sharon of his informing the attorney general and received the prime minister's full backing for the move.

Israel also put the diplomatic wheel in motion in an effort to apply pressure to the PA, with Sharon aide Dov Weissglas discussing the matter with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as well as European and Egyptian officials. There is no justification for the PA's failure to take action against Islamic Jihad, Weissglas and senior defense establishment officials said in their talks with their foreign counterparts.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 07, 2005, 12:50:54 AM
U.S. Army report: Israel can't stop Iran nukes

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Monday, December 5, 2005

WASHINGTON — Geopolitical limitations render Israel's air force militarily incapable of halting Iran's nuclear weapons program according to a new report published the by U.S. Army War College.

The report asserts Israel lacks the military capability to locate and destroy Iranian nuclear assets. The report said the Israel Air Force cannot operate at such long distances from its bases.

"The Israeli Air Force has formidable capabilities and enjoys unchallenged supremacy vis-à-vis the other Middle East air powers, but Israel has no aircraft carriers and it cannot use airbases in other Middle East states," the report entitled "Getting Ready for a Nuclear-Ready Iran," said. "Therefore its operational capabilities are reduced when the targets are located far from its territory."

[On Sunday, Israeli Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz warned that diplomatic pressure would not stop Iran's nuclear weapons program, Middle East Newsline reported. Halutz was one of three senior Israeli officials who warned that Iran would soon be able to turn into a nuclear power.]

In an article authored by Shlomo Brom, former head of air force strategic planning, the report said Israel's deep-strike air capability was based on the F-15I and F-16C/D aircraft. At a range of more than 600 kilometers, Brom said, Israel could not sustain an air campaign. Iran is about 1,000 kilometers from Israel.

"It is possible to determine that at long ranges — more then 600 kilometers — the IAF is capable of a few surgical strikes, but it is not capable of a sustained air campaign against a full array of targets," the report said.

An Israeli air attack on Iran must also include such support aircraft as air refueling, electronic countermeasures, support, communication, and rescue, the report said. The mission would also require precision intelligence.

Brom said Israel's intelligence and military community was divided over the Iranian threat. He said military intelligence regards Iran as determined to destroy Israel. The Mossad and National Security Council see Teheran as preoccupied with national defense and regime survival.

"While the first school assumes no political pressure can force Iran to stop its military nuclear program, the other school believes that political pressure can be effective in at least delaying the nuclear program significantly," the report said. "The second school believes that a nuclear Iran with a different regime will not pose a high risk to Israel and can be easily deterred."

The report said the Bushehr nuclear power plant was vulnerable to attacks but does not constitute a key element of the military nuclear program. As a result, the destruction of Bushehr would not have a significant effect on Iran's military program.

Brom said Iranian nuclear assets are located between 1,500 and 1,700 kilometers from Israel. The report expressed doubts whether such Israeli allies as India and Turkey would allow Israel to launch a military strike from their territory.

"This means that the Israeli attack aircraft would have to take off from air bases in Israel, fly 1,500-1,700 kilometers to the targets, destroy them, and then fly back 1,500-1,700 kilometers," the report said.

The Israel Air Force has 25 F-15I and 137 F-16C/D fighter-bombers. The air force has already received more than 20 F-16Is, with longer range on the F-15I, but the report said the F-15I aircraft contains greater capabilities at long ranges.

The report said the F-15I has an operational radius of 1,270 kilometers. The F-16I has an operational radius of 2,100 kilometers while that of the F-16C/D is 925 kilometers.

But the report said the real operational radius was shorter because the planes would have to fly at low altitude to avoid radar detection. Brom said the Israeli aircraft could avoid Iranian air defense but would be detected.

"In any case, any Israeli attack on an Iranian nuclear target would be a very complex operation in which a relatively large number of attack aircraft and support aircraft — interceptors, ECM [electronic counter-measures] aircraft, refuelers, and rescue aircraft — would participate," the report said. "The conclusion is that Israel could attack only a few Iranian targets and not as part of a sustainable operation over time, but as a one time surprise operation."


Title: UN Ceremony Includes Map of ´Palestine´ in Place of Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 08, 2005, 04:48:33 PM
The United Nations held a "Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People" last week. A large map of “Palestine,” with Israel literally wiped off the map, featured prominently in the festivities.




The ceremony was held at the UN headquarters in New York and was attended by Secretary General Kofi Annan and the Presidents of the UN Security Council and the General Assembly.

(http://www.israelnn.com/data/images/2005/12/08/un-map-o-palestine-m.jpg)

During the festivities, a map labeled a "map of Palestine” was displayed prominently between UN and PLO flags. The map, with “Palestine” written in Arabic atop it, does not include Israel, a member of the UN for 56 years. The map does not even demarcate the partition lines of November 29, 1947, marking a Jewish state alongside an Arab state. The partition was dictated by the UN General Assembly itself.

(http://www.israelnn.com/data/images/2005/12/08/un-map-w-flags-m.jpg)

With the map hanging behind him, Secretary-General Annan addressed the public meeting at UN Headquarters.

(http://www.israelnn.com/data/images/2005/12/08/un-kofi-w-map-m.jpg)

Click  here (http://www.eyeontheun.org/view.asp?l=21&p=143) to view a video clip of the ceremony with the map in the background.

At the start of the ceremony, the dignitaries present asked attendees to observe a moment of silence. “I invite everyone present to rise and observe a minute of silence in memory of all those who have given their lives for the cause of the Palestinian people,” the master of ceremonies said, “and the return of peace between Israel and Palestine.“

(http://www.israelnn.com/data/images/2005/12/08/un-moment-of-silence-for-martyrs-m.jpg)

Anne Bayefsky, who reported on the event for the Eye on the UN organization, said that the ceremony's wording was aimed at giving honor to the worst of Palestinian terrorists. "It was a moment ... crafted to include the commemoration of suicide-bombers,” she wrote.


Click here (http://www.eyeontheun.org/view.asp?l=21&p=144) to view a video of the moment of silence.


In response to the event, Bayefsky and her organization have once again asked the U.S. to withhold funding from the UN.

(Photos and Videos: EyeOnTheUN.org)



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 08, 2005, 04:54:27 PM
Iran's president questions Holocaust
Thu Dec 8, 2005 12:12 PM ET

By Paul Hughes

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency from a news conference he gave in the Saudi Arabian city of Mecca, follow his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the map", which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?" he said.

"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."

Historians say six million Jews were killed in the Nazi Holocaust. Ahmadinejad's remarks drew swift rebukes from Israel and Washington.

Raanan Gissin, a spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, said in Tel Aviv that Ahmadinejad was voicing "the consensus that exists in many circles in the Arab world that the Jewish people ... do not have the right to establish a Jewish, democratic state in their ancestral homeland".

"Just to remind Mr. Ahmadinejad, we've been here long before his ancestors were here," Gissin said. "Therefore, we have a birthright to be here in the land of our forefathers and to live here. Thank God we have the capability to deter and to prevent such a statement from becoming a reality."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "It just further underscores our concerns about the regime in Iran and it's all the more reason why it's so important that the regime not have the ability to develop nuclear weapons."

ONCE ALLIES

Religious hardliners in Iran do not publicly deny the Holocaust occurred but say its scale has been exaggerated to justify the creation of Israel and continued Western support for it.

Close allies when Iran was ruled by the U.S.-backed Shah, Iran and Israel have become implacable foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.

Israel accuses Iran of giving arms and funding to militant Palestinian groups such as Islamic Jihad and of building nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charges.

Tehran calls Israel a "terrorist state" and has developed missiles which can reach it. It says it would use them if Israel, itself believed to be nuclear-armed, tried to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

Earlier in his remarks, the Iranian president, a former Revolutionary Guardsman who won a surprise election victory in June, said:

"The question is, where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

Jews trace their roots in Israel back to Biblical times.

Ahmadinejad concluded his remarks by reiterating Iran's proposal that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict be resolved via a referendum of all the inhabitants of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank as well as Palestinian refugees in neighboring countries.

"Whatever they decide will be accepted by all humanity. This is a clear democratic solution which is based on international principles," he said.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 10, 2005, 06:29:34 AM
Pastor Roger,

I heard a couple of news spots about the last two posts, and all I can say is WOW! I think it is far past time to bid farewell to the UN. Just my two cents worth.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 10, 2005, 02:15:37 PM
Iran's president questions Holocaust

Pastor Roger, I will simply say I have been busy in my WW2 forum. Proving that the Holocaust, did happen. The posts, there were by a muslim poster, in Saudi Arabia. I have 3 posters from there, and one of them now believes, in God.

The simply fact is, there is to much evidence to prove the Holocaust happened. When you have man mussing with the facts, distorting facts. You can still prove the Holocaust happened. I don't know what, Iran's president hope to accomplish, but it will be for nought. ;D


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 10, 2005, 02:38:50 PM
Brother,

He is doing just what the ACLU, atheists etc are trying to do here. They are trying to destroy us by destroying our history and trying to gain more followers by proving us all wrong.

You are right though, the evidence that they are wrong is overwhelming if people will just open their eyes and see the truth. Unfortunately there will be those that will be willing to believe them and refuse to see even facts.

Even one more believer of the truth is one less lost soul.

Praise God for that one.



Title: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran
Post by: Shammu on December 12, 2005, 12:24:27 PM
Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran
Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv, and Sarah Baxter, Washington
ISRAEL’S armed forces have been ordered by Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, to be ready by the end of March for possible strikes on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran, military sources have revealed.

The order came after Israeli intelligence warned the government that Iran was operating enrichment facilities, believed to be small and concealed in civilian locations.

Iran’s stand-off with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over nuclear inspections and aggressive rhetoric from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, who said last week that Israel should be moved to Europe, are causing mounting concern.

The crisis is set to come to a head in early March, when Mohamed El-Baradei, the head of the IAEA, will present his next report on Iran. El-Baradei, who received the Nobel peace prize yesterday, warned that the world was “losing patience” with Iran.

A senior White House source said the threat of a nuclear Iran was moving to the top of the international agenda and the issue now was: “What next?” That question would have to be answered in the next few months, he said.

Defence sources in Israel believe the end of March to be the “point of no return” after which Iran will have the technical expertise to enrich uranium in sufficient quantities to build a nuclear warhead in two to four years.

“Israel — and not only Israel — cannot accept a nuclear Iran,” Sharon warned recently. “We have the ability to deal with this and we’re making all the necessary preparations to be ready for such a situation.”

The order to prepare for a possible attack went through the Israeli defence ministry to the chief of staff. Sources inside special forces command confirmed that “G” readiness — the highest stage — for an operation was announced last week.

Gholamreza Aghazadeah, head of the Atomic Organisation of Iran, warned yesterday that his country would produce nuclear fuel. “There is no doubt that we have to carry out uranium enrichment,” he said.

He promised it would not be done during forthcoming talks with European negotiators. But although Iran insists it wants only nuclear energy, Israeli intelligence has concluded it is deceiving the world and has no intention of giving up what it believes is its right to develop nuclear weapons.

A “massive” Israeli intelligence operation has been underway since Iran was designated the “top priority for 2005”, according to security sources.

Cross-border operations and signal intelligence from a base established by the Israelis in northern Iraq are said to have identified a number of Iranian uranium enrichment sites unknown to the the IAEA.

Since Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, “it has been understood that the lesson is, don’t have one site, have 50 sites”, a White House source said.

If a military operation is approved, Israel will use air and ground forces against several nuclear targets in the hope of stalling Tehran’s nuclear programme for years, according to Israeli military sources.

It is believed Israel would call on its top special forces brigade, Unit 262 — the equivalent of the SAS — and the F-15I strategic 69 Squadron, which can strike Iran and return to Israel without refuelling.

“If we opt for the military strike,” said a source, “it must be not less than 100% successful. It will resemble the destruction of the Egyptian air force in three hours in June 1967.”

Aharon Zeevi Farkash, the Israeli military intelligence chief, stepped up the pressure on Iran this month when he warned Israel’s parliament, the Knesset, that “if by the end of March the international community is unable to refer the Iranian issue to the United Nations security council, then we can say the international effort has run its course”.

The March deadline set for military readiness also stems from fears that Iran is improving its own intelligence-gathering capability. In October it launched its first satellite, the Sinah-1, which was carried by a Russian space launcher.

“The Iranians’ space programme is a matter of deep concern to us,” said an Israeli defence source. “If and when we launch an attack on several Iranian targets, the last thing we need is Iranian early warning received by satellite.”

Russia last week signed an estimated $1 billion contract — its largest since 2000 — to sell Iran advanced Tor-M1 systems capable of destroying guided missiles and laser-guided bombs from aircraft.

“Once the Iranians get the Tor-M1, it will make our life much more difficult,” said an Israeli air force source. “The installation of this system can be relatively quick and we can’t waste time on this one.”

The date set for possible Israeli strikes on Iran also coincides with Israel’s general election on March 28, prompting speculation that Sharon may be sabre-rattling for votes.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the frontrunner to lead Likud into the elections, said that if Sharon did not act against Iran, “then when I form the new Israeli government, we’ll do what we did in the past against Saddam’s reactor, which gave us 20 years of tranquillity”.

TEHRAN MINISTER MET MILITANTS BEFORE NEW OFFENSIVE

Iran’s foreign minister met leading figures from three Islamic militant groups to co-ordinate a united front against Israel days before a recent escalation of attacks against Israeli targets shattered fragile ceasefires with Lebanon and the Palestinians, writes Hugh Macleod in Damascus.

The minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, held talks with leaders of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah in Damascus on November 15.

Among those who attended the meeting were Khaled Meshaal, the Hamas leader, and a deputy leader of Islamic Jihad, which claimed responsibility for last Monday’s suicide bombing of a shopping mall in Netanya that killed five Israeli citizens.

Ahmed Jibril, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine- General Command, was also present. “We all confirmed that what is going on in occupied Palestine is organically connected to what is going on in Iraq, Syria, Iran and Lebanon,” said Jibril.

Seven days after the talks, Hezbollah fired a volley of rockets and mortars at Israeli targets, sparking the fiercest fighting between the two sides since Israel’s withdrawal from south Lebanon five years ago.

Israel readies strike (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1920074,00.html)


Title: Halutz: Nuclear Iran in 3 months
Post by: Shammu on December 14, 2005, 12:57:42 AM
Halutz: Nuclear Iran in 3 months

IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz says, 'Within three months Iran will reach a point of no return in terms of its capability to manufacture nuclear bomb; adds that threat to Israel not immediate
Ilan Marciano

Within three months Iran will reach a point of no return in terms of its technological capacity to manufacture a nuclear bomb, IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz told the Knesset's Security and Foreign Affairs Committee on Tuesday.

"This fact does not represent a threat to Israel just yet, because Iran will have to overcome a few obstacles before it can put the weapons to use," he added.

Western intelligence agencies have been trying to figure out how close Iran is to the bomb for a number of years. In Washington, a change of position has occurred of late, and a "critical decade" is the latest estimate – but views there are also divided.

Last week, Israel's stance was strengthened by Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Muhammad Elbaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), who said that the minute Iran completes work on its Natanz core, three months would separate the Islamic Republic from acquiring nuclear weapons.

The timing mentioned by Halutz – March 2006 – is especially interesting. At the start of the week, the London Sunday Times published an article saying that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon instructed the IDF to prepare for a military strike at the end of March, in light of Israeli estimations that uranium is being enriched in Iranian civilian sites at this very moment.

According to the report, which was denied by Jerusalem, the level of preparedness of the Air Force has been moved up to the highest level for the same reason.

The committee also discussed the issue of Palestinian convoys and passages. Halutz told Knesset Members that for the time being, the army has frozen agreements over crossings from Gaza to the West Bank via Israel, due to the "lack of effort by the Palestinians to deal with weapons smuggling and Qassam rocket attacks."

'Security matters not open to negotiations'

The deal over the crossings, which was mediated by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and meetings around the issue, are continuing thanks to efforts by David Welch, assistant U.S. Secretary of State.

Deputy Minister Zeev Boim said: "As long as Qassam rockets and terror attacks by the Islamic Jihad continue, and the Palestinian Authority is not taking real steps (to counter these), movement of Palestinian convoys will not be possible.

“It must be understood that security matters are not open to negotiations, and if the Palestinians don't provide security on their side – they won't receive the carrying out of the agreement on our side."

Nuclear Iran in 3 Months (http://www.worthynews.com/zone.cgi?http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3183779,00.html)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 14, 2005, 02:26:36 PM
Palestinians: Jews come from pigs, monkeys

Anti-Israel radio, audiocassettes abound in Gaza, Judea, Samaria
Posted: December 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Jews plan to take over the world by killing their opponents, Israelis are the descendents of pigs and monkeys, and Allah will soon dish out "the harshest punishments" to the followers of the "corrupt and racist Torah," according to radio broadcasts and audiocassettes recently distributed in the Palestinian territories.

"The dissemination of anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic hate propaganda continues throughout the Palestinian Authority-administered territories" in spite of multiple pledges to reform the Palestinian media, according to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at Israel's Center for Special Studies, which released a study that includes translations of radio broadcasts from last month.

On Nov. 17, Al-Huriyyah, a Palestinian radio station in Hebron run by the Fatah-Tzanim militia, broadcast a program called "The Struggle" in which the announcer repeatedly claimed Jews intend to take over the world by gaining control of global economic resources and financial institutions of various countries by "killing their opponents."

That same day, the Information Center's study stated, Al-Huriyyah played songs calling for jihad against Israel with lyrics that included, "Do not fall asleep, jihad warrior, because justice never sleeps. Take your bullets with you and bring death."

The Center also released the translation of a lecture by a Hamas operative entitled, "The end of the Israelites," that was reportedly distributed by a Palestinian charity en-mass on audiocassette in Gaza, Judea and Samaria.

"Because of their corruption, the Jews will receive Allah's harshest punishment," says Hamas leader Dr. Bassam Nihad Ibrahim Jarrar in the taped lecture.

Jarrar claims a Jew is "not someone whose mother was Jewish, but someone who has accepted the racist and corrupt principles which appear in the Talmud and the version of the Torah distorted by the Jews."

The Center says the Jarrar cassette is still being distributed.

In another audiocassette reportedly imported from Saudi Arabia and distributed in the Palestinian territories, a popular Saudi lecturer presents Jews as "the sons of monkeys and pigs" who "make practices of deception."

"Allah will punish the infidels and the conspirators," concludes the Saudi sheik at the end of the taped lecture.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and other Israeli leaders recently have credited PA President Mahmoud Abbas with working to lower official incitement against Israel in the Palestinian media.

The Center for Special Studies said some of the recent incitement has come from media outlets independent of the PA.

"The Palestinian terrorist organizations have found alternative methods for distributing … propaganda and inculcating incitement to hatred and violence amongst Palestinians," stated the Center's study. "The PA has limited the diffusion of such messages by its official media, but does not take effective steps to stop it as part of its policy of not confronting the Palestinian terrorist organizations."

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Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 15, 2005, 11:55:59 PM
Last update - 18:21 15/12/2005            
Hamas threatens to step up attacks if Israel strikes Iran
By Haaretz Service and Agencies

TEHRAN - Hamas will step up its attacks on Israeli targets if Israel attacks Iran, the militant group's chief-in-exile Khaled Meshal said on Thursday.

"If Israel attacks Iran, then Hamas will widen and increase its confrontation of Israelis inside Palestine," Meshal told reporters in Tehran, where he has held three days of talks with top political and security officials.

On Wednesday, Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Dan Halutz said Iran will be capable of enriching uranium within the next three months, but will have to overcome many technological obstacles before reaching the nuclear "point of no return."

"Iran is determined to obtain the technological capability that will allow it to produce a nuclear bomb, but numerous obstacles remain in its path," Halutz told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. "Even if the Iranians pass the uranium-enrichment stage, they are still a number of years away from building the bomb."

"An Iran with nuclear capability is a global problem," said Halutz. "It will be difficult to impose sanctions on it, and the problem could arise of the transfering of `dirty bombs' to terror organizations."

The International Atomic Energy Agency board of governors is slated to convene on March 6 to discuss imposing sanctions on Iran, Halutz noted.

Former finance minister Benjamin Netanyahu said last week that Israel should take "bold and daring" action to thwart Iran's plans for nuclear armament, citing Israel's 1981 air strike on a Iraqi nuclear facility.

"The Iranian threat is an existential one, as it is a country that declared its plans to destroy Israel and is developing the tools to carry out this destruction. In this regard, I will continue the legacy of Menachem Begin, who thwarted Iran's neighbor, Iraq, from acquiring nuclear weapons by adopting bold and daring measures.

"I believe that is what Israel needs to do," Netanyahu told Israel Radio.

In 1981, Begin ordered an air strike on Iraq's nuclear facility in Osirak, near Baghdad. As a result of the attack, Iraq's nuclear armament plan was thwarted.

On Tuesday, Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, encouraged Palestinians to continue their struggle against Israel. Iranian television reported that Khamenei told Meshal that "the experience of the last 50 years teaches that negotiation with the Zionist occupation doesn't improve the situation. We will achieve victory through the struggle only."

Praise for Ahmadinejad's anti-Israel comments

Meshaal also praised Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for recent comments in which he called the Holocaust a myth and said Israel should be moved to Europe or North America.

"Those were brave and true remarks and it is what the Islamic nations say, especially the Palestinians," he said.

The European Union and Israel condemned Ahmadinejad 's remark, with the German foreign minister adding that the comment denying the Holocaust will affect Iran's nuclear talks with European negotiators later this month.

Hamas threatens to step up attacks (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/658419.html)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 18, 2005, 12:42:37 AM
Updated Dec. 17, 2005 8:51
EU warns Iran to stop provoking Israel
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
BRUSSELS, Belgium

Iran could face sanctions if it keeps provoking Israel and the West, European leaders warned Friday, even as the Teheran regime's interior minister said the Iranian president's remarks had been "misunderstood."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad aggravated tensions with the West this week by calling the Holocaust a "myth," a statement that came two months after he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

European leaders said Ahmadinejad's remarks were the latest "provocative political moves" from Teheran since May.

"These comments are wholly unacceptable and have no place in civilized political debate," said a draft statement at a European Union summit that EU leaders were expected to adopt later Friday.

EU leaders warned Tehran they would review diplomatic options for possible sanctions against Iran.

The condemnation came as Iran prepares to resume talks Wednesday with European envoys over its nuclear program, which the EU and United States fear is intended to build atomic weapons. Envoys from Britain, Germany and France are trying to get Tehran to halt uranium enrichment.

Leaders warned that the EU was losing patience in mediating the international standoff. "The window of opportunity will not remain open indefinitely."

EU leaders said they were "gravely concerned at Iran's failure to build confidence that its nuclear program is exclusively peaceful," adding that recent decisions to resume work on enriching uranium "only add to the EU's profound concerns about Iran's intentions."

Iran's interior minister insisted Friday that the West "misunderstood" Ahmadinejad's comments.

Ahmadinejad "wanted to say that if others harmed the Jewish community and created problems for the Jewish community, they have to pay the price themselves," Mostafa Pourmohammadi told The Associated Press in Athens, Greece. "People like the Palestinian people or other nations should not pay the price."

"A historical incident has occurred. Correct or not correct. We don't want to launch research or carry out historical investigation about it," Pourmohammadi said on the sidelines of a conference in the Greek capital.

In Berlin, German lawmakers unanimously condemned the Iranian president's remarks, calling them "completely unacceptable." Lawmakers urged the German government to "counter any policy that disputes Israel's right to exist and denies the Holocaust."

Denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany, a country sensitive about its Nazi past and the genocide that killed more than 6 million Jews during World War II.

"What the Iranian president has said about the state of Israel is completely unacceptable," Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson said. "He knows that he is denying the Holocaust and he is wrong … and I condemn it."

In remarks carried live by state television and repeated several times, Ahmadinejad said during a tour of southeastern Iran on Wednesday that if Europeans insist the Holocaust occurred, then they are responsible and should pay the price.

"Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people in Zahedan. "If you committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?

"This is our proposal: If you committed the crime, then give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country."

The EU statement Friday reaffirmed Israel's right to exist, noting that "all members of the United Nations have undertaken to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state."
EU warns Iran (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1134309593422&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Arab MK: Israel ‘robbery of century’
Post by: Shammu on December 19, 2005, 01:58:59 AM
Arab MK: Israel ‘robbery of century’

Knesset Member Azmi Bishara in Lebanon: We are original inhabitants of Palestine, not ‘those who came from Poland, Russia; says Israelis should leave, take their democracy with them

Ronny Shaked

Israel is the 20th century's greatest robbery, carried out in broad daylight, Arab Knesset member Azmi Bishara (National Democratic Assembly) told a Lebanese audience last week during a speech at an Arab book fair in Beirut.

"I will never recognize Zionism even if all Arabs do," he said. "I will never concede Palestine. The battle is still long."

Bishara, who recently launched his campaign for an additional term in the Knesset, left for Lebanon five days ago without consent from the Interior Ministry, Israel's leading newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported Sunday.

His harsh anti-Israel message at the fair was quoted by Lebanese newspaper As -Safir.

"The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is not a demographic dispute, but a national one," he said. "It's not the problem of 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. They are like all Arabs, only with Israeli citizenship forced upon them."

"We are the original residents of Palestine, not those who came from Poland and Russia," the MK added.

‘Leave and take your democracy with you’

Directing his speech at Israelis, Bishara said, "Return Palestine to us and take your democracy with you. We Arabs are not interested in it."

The audience received the Knesset member with great applause

Bishara also used the opportunity to criticize Arab leaders who have ties with Israel.

"Why does one of the Arab countries provide a home for (Foreign Minister) Silvan Shalom, while the army destroys homes in Palestine on a daily basis?" he said, referring to the foreign minister's recent visit to his birth county of Tunisia. "If you want to surrender, do it, but don't force us to give in."

Bishara has meanwhile returned to Israel and told Yedioth Ahronoth Saturday night that his speech was "about Zionism and citizenship."

"I didn’t say anything new that I hadn't said in other places. I've spoken like this in the Knesset," he said.

Arab MK: Israel ‘robbery of century’ (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3186040,00.html)


Title: Ariel Sharon Stroke
Post by: Shammu on December 19, 2005, 02:02:05 AM
Last update - 23:47 18/12/2005            
Background: Who would take over from Ariel Sharon?
By Gideon Alon, Haaretz Correspondent

In the event that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is unable, for health reasons, to continue running the affairs of the state over a period of days or weeks, Finance Minister Ehud Olmert, who also serves as deputy prime minister, would need to step in.

As interim prime minister, Olmert would be authorized by law to exercise all the powers granted to the prime minister for a period of 100 days, at the end of which the serving prime minister would technically be viewed as having resigned his post, triggering the resignation of the entire government.

At the end of the 100-day period, the Basic Law on The Government mandates that the president begin the process of forming a new government. In light of the fact that elections for the 17th Knesset are scheduled for March 28 (100 days from Sunday), there's no need for the president to begin such a process.

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Following the elections, the president would ask the MK leading the party with the best chance of forming a stable coalition to put together the next government.

Sharon's condition will have no effect on the date set for the general elections, unless it suddenly deteriorates or he dies. The Knesset is allowed to postpone the elections by an 80-MK majority vote "if special circumstances occur which prevent holding elections on their planned date."

Elections have been postponed only once in the country's history, following the outbreak of the 1973 Yom Kippur War. They were then delayed by two months and held on December 31, 1973.

Israel has already seen prime ministers fall ill and have to be absent from work, such as Menachem Begin. But there has never been a situation in which an interim prime minister had to remain in his position for the full 100 days.

Who would take over from Ariel Sharon? (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/659329.html)


Title: Doctors: PM will suffer no residual effects from stroke
Post by: Shammu on December 19, 2005, 11:31:48 AM
Dec. 19, 2005 17:26
Doctors: PM will suffer no residual effects from stroke
By JPOST.COM STAFF

In a press conference Monday afternoon, senior members of the Hadassah Ein Kerem Medical Center staff declared that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon would be released from hospital Tuesday morning, and that while they recommended that he rest, he would be able to reassume his workload.

The cause of a minor stroke which Sharon suffered unexpectedly Sunday afternoon, was a small blood clot, doctors explained. After doctors treated Sharon with blood-thinners the clot quickly dissolved.

Neurologist Professor Tamir Ben-Hur stated unequivocally that despite media reports, at no time did the prime minister lose consciousness or become disoriented. However, Sharon's speech had been affected slightly, Ben-Hur noted.

Both Ben-Hur and Dr. Jacob Naparstek, Director of Internal Medicine at Hadassah, assured the press and the public that Sharon was unharmed, and that there was no reason to fear that any similar event would occur in the future.

While hospitalized Sunday evening, Sharon joked with his medical and office staff, telling them that they "are not rid of him yet." He added in a bit of self-humor that he thought he should take a few days off.

Using a double entendre on the name of his new political party Kadima ('Forward' in Hebrew), Sharon quipped that he felt fine, and that the time had arrived to move forward.

After being rushed to hospital Sunday evening, the prime minister underwent a series of medical examinations including an MRI and neurological tests, all of which, according to hospital staff, were satisfactory.

Dr. Yuval Weiss added that Sharon's condition improved during his hospitalization. The hospital official noted that the prime minister did not require any invasive procedures. Sharon reportedly asked to be released Sunday night, but the physicians denied his request.

The prime minister was taken directly to the VIP section of the hospital's trauma room. Meanwhile, Hadassah was closed off to civilian entry by special police forces. The senior medical staff of the hospital was called in to treat him.

Sharon, who will celebrate his 78th birthday in February, is already the oldest incumbent prime minister in Israeli history. Approximately three years ago, the prime minister underwent kidney stone surgery.

Cabinet secretary Yisrael Maimon was reportedly at the prime minister's bedside, fielding the many phone calls from politicians and dignitaries.

Labor Party Chairman Amir Peretz was the first politician to respond publicly to the incident, saying he wished the prime minister well. President Moshe Katsav expressed similar wishes. MK Eli Yishai called on behalf of Shas's spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef to wish Sharon a speedy recovery.

On the Right side of the political spectrum, far-right Likud leadership candidate also wished the prime minister a long life - but out of politics.

National Union MK Arye Eldad said that the incident will make the public realize that "the state cannot be run by a 77-year-old man with risks like obesity, shortness of breath and now stroke. This incident obligates the prime minister to reveal his health condition to the public, so the fate of the nation will not hinge on a blood clot the size of a millimeter."

Israeli stocks were mostly lower but losses were modest early Monday as investors reacted cautiously to news that Sharon was hospitalized overnight.

Eighteen of the TA-25's components were moving lower led by declines in Bank Leumi, Bezeq and Africa-Israel. Teva Pharmaceutical Industries and Bank Hapoalim were the best performers.

Foreign media outlets, including those from the western and Arab world, were reporting extensively on the incident.

The United States Ambassador Elliot Abrams called the prime minister's office to express wishes for Sharon's recovery on behalf of US President George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Likewise, the EU's concern for the prime minister were related by their foreign policy chief Javier Solana. Similar calls were received from PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

In Gaza City, dozens of armed men from the Popular Resistance Committees, a small Palestinian militant group, fired guns in the air and handed out sweets to motorists in celebration of the news that Sharon was ill.

Doctors: PM will suffer no residual effects from stroke  (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1134309603256&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull)


Title: Hamas leader lauds Iranian president
Post by: Shammu on December 19, 2005, 11:36:21 AM
Hamas leader lauds Iranian president
12.19.2005.16:37

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's remarks regarding the Holocaust and the State of Israel are true statements that represent the believers, the Mujahidin and the freedom warriors, Hamas' political department head Khaled Mashal said Monday.

Mashal, who is currently residing in Tehran, referred to the Iranian president's statement in which he expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and demanded that Austria and Germany give some of their provinces to the Jews to establish a state in Europe "instead of the one established in Palestine."

"These are excellent statements," Mashal said.

"Today Iran has a brave leader, whose words may not be approved by the world's governments, but are supported by the people of the globe," he added.

Mashal also said the Palestinians are proud of the Iranian stance, and that "everybody should have the courage to voice this truth."

'Muslims will eventually win'

The Hamas leader added that many of the world's countries understand that Israel is an aggressive country, and that opinion polls conducted in the European Union prove that approximately 60 percent of Europeans believe Israel constitutes the biggest threat to world peace.

"People realize the truth but are afraid. The West is afraid of the world Zionists' reaction since the Israelis and the Zionists are exhausting western society with the issues of anti-Semitism and doubt in the Holocaust," Mashal said.

Mashal also expressed his hope that "time is in favor of us the Muslims, while Israel is in a course of retreat. It is losing the image it has been trying to create for many years."

"We, the resistance people, will eventually win God willing," he concluded.

Hamas leader lauds Iranian president (http://www.forzion.com/full-article.php?news=1636)


Title: Iran denies media reports of attempt to assassinate president
Post by: Shammu on December 19, 2005, 11:38:48 AM
Iran denies media reports of attempt to assassinate president
By Reuters

TEHRAN - Iran on Monday denied media reports that a firefight last week in the country's lawless southeastern borderlands was an assassination attempt on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Government officials said Ahmadinejad was making a speech in Zahedan, capital of Sistan-Baluchistan province, on Wednesday when a car carrying security forces was attacked by smugglers on the road to the Gulf port of Chaharbahar.

"During the attack, the local driver and a Revolutionary Guardsman was killed. The police immediately intervened. One smuggler was killed and one arrested," government spokesman Gholamhossein Elham told a news conference.

Some domestic and foreign reports described the attack as an assassination attempt, but officials said the vehicle that came under fire was not part of Ahmadinjad's cavalcade and that there had been no question of the president traveling on that road.

The vehicle had been deployed as part of large scale security measures imposed for the presidential visit.

"The attack just shows this region is very insecure for everyone: Sunnis, Shi'ites, Baluch and non-Baluch," Elham said.

The Baluch tribes of southeastern Iran are predominantly Sunni Muslims. Shi'ism is the official religion in Iran.

Sistan-Baluchistan is a main conduit for drugs moving to Europe from Afghanistan and Pakistan. More than 3,300 Iranian troops have died fighting well-armed traffickers since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

The area is dotted with police forts, which would explain how police were able to intervene quickly in the gun battle.

In his speech in Zahedan, Ahmadinejad called the Holocaust a myth, sparking international uproar.

The Iranian leader said that if Europeans insist the Holocaust did happen, then it was they who were responsible and they should pay the price.

"If you committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?" Ahmadinejad asked rhetorically.

"This is our proposal: If you committed the crime, then give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them [Jews] so that the Jews can establish their country," he said, developing a theme he raised in Saudi Arabia the week before.

"If your civilization consists of unjust acts, oppression and poverty for the majority of the globe to provide your own people welfare, then we shout at the top of our voices that we hate your frail civilization," he said, to rapturous cries of "God is Greatest" from the crowd.

Iran denies media reports of attempt to assassinate president (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/659752.html)


Title: Iraq’s Zarqawi Sets up Gaza Branch at Palestinian Base
Post by: Shammu on December 20, 2005, 12:18:43 AM
Iraq’s Zarqawi Sets up Gaza Branch at Palestinian Base

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

December 19, 2005, 1:37 PM (GMT+02:00)
   
Since early December, a branch of Abu Musab al Zarqawi’s al Qaeda in Iraq has been running a forward base in Gaza City preparatory to in-depth attacks in Israel, according to DEBKAfile’s exclusive counter-terror sources. It joins the Al Qaeda-Palestine cell established some weeks ago in the Gaza Strip.

A high-ranking Israeli army officer confided to us: “For years, we fought al Qaeda in unpublicized encounters in remote places far from our borders. Now we have to admit they are here, on our very threshold.” The officer went on to warn: “The conjunction of al Qaeda and Palestinian terrorist structures confronts Israel with a grave strategic threat.”

According to our sources, Israeli intelligence briefed prime minister Ariel Sharon and defense minister Shaul Mofaz in the first week of December on the Zarqawi group’s infiltration of the Gaza Strip from Sinai and its arrival in Gaza City.

Part of the incoming terror group transited the Rafah terminal (where US officials say the security video cameras have broken down), past European monitors, by showing forged Palestinian documents; part were smuggled in through the Philadelphi border enclave which is guarded by Egyptian police. Intelligence chiefs informed the prime minister that the new cell linked up with the local branch of the Palestinian terror umbrella, the Popular Resistance Committees, which is headed by Shekh Khalil Kuka. The PRC welcomed the newcomer by making its publicity outlets available. Since Monday, Dec. 5, PRC Internet websites have been posting daily bulletins on Zarqawi’s attacks on US and Iraqi targets which often run to 20-30 communiques a day.

These bulletins are now released simultaneously in Baghdad, Gaza, Rafah and Khan Younes. In Gaza, they appear alongside a PRC statement declaring: “The Palestinian and Zarqawi’s struggles are one and the same.”

It is the first time that a Palestinian combat-terrorist organization has aligned itself directly and openly with al Qaeda’s commander in Iraq. Yet, although no attempt has been made to conceal this alliance, it has received no publicity in Israel.

DEBKAfile’s sources report that Israeli counter-terror agencies are quietly working on the premise that the Popular Resistance Committees of Gaza and the Fatah-al Aqsa Brigades of the West Bank plan to make their operational structures available to Zarqawi’s cell for in-depth attacks in Israel.

Meanwhile, the new cell is not letting the grass grow under its feet. Its leaders have managed to enlist the support of the Bedouin clans of southern Gaza, which number tens of thousands of tribesmen, thereby substantially expanding their logistical base. Al Qaeda’s Sinai cell, which Egypt has been unable to root out, already counts on northern Sinai’s Bedouin clans for logistical support.

The pledge of solidarity issued by Gaza’s Khan Younes and Deir Balah Bedouin chiefs declares: “We are now committed to following Zarqawi’s flag.”

It condemns the Bani Hassan Bedouin tribe of Jordan for reprimanding and expelling members who joined al Qaeda and accuses their chiefs of capitulating to the rulers of Jordan.

(Last Tuesday, a Jordanian military tribunal issued a third death sentence in absentia against the Jordanian-Palestinian al Qaeda chief in Iraq.)

The Palestinian Bedouin statement ends with a traditional piece of poetry to mark the new pact. This is a free translation:

How is it that our lords Osama bin Laden and Musab Zarqawi are persecuted, while the enemies of our faith walk straight-backed

How is it that Jihad warriors are treated as aliens, while corrupt infidels are beloved

How is it that true believers are condemned to death, while the flags of the licentious are held aloft

How is it that jihadists are killed, while others make peace with usurers

In July and August, 2005, ahead of Israel’s evacuation of the Gaza Strip, DEBKAfile warned that Zarqawi and al Qaeda’s terrorists were waiting for the pullback to establish forward bases in the Gaza Strip. Four months later, they are poised for action on Israel’s borders.

Iraq's Zarqawi Sets up Gaza Branch at Palestinian Base (http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1122)


Title: Israel�s Military Intelligence chief: Existential threat growing
Post by: Shammu on December 21, 2005, 01:01:49 AM
Israel�s Military Intelligence chief: Existential threat growing

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 20:10 IST
JNW HEADLINE NEWS

MI Chief: Existential threat growing
By Stan Goodenough

December 18th, 2005


Israel�s Military Intelligence chief warned the cabinet Sunday that 2006 could see a quantum leap in the ability of the Islamic forces around Israel, and now being established in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, to bring about the destruction of the Jewish state.

Major-General Aharon Ze�evi Farkash said it appeared that Gaza on the one hand and Judea-Samaria on the other were respectively about to turn into two separate �Palestinian� entities: �Hamastan� and �Fatahstan.�

As this was happening, Farkash said, �in Arab countries weapons are being produced at a quantity and quality that threaten the heart of the State of Israel. Iran, Syria, Hizb�allah, and Hamas are accumulating missiles from Kassams to Shihab 3 missiles.�

Iran was �determined to reach nuclear capabilities and obtain ground to ground missiles. It is turning into a regional power. I don't see a real possibility for diplomacy preventing Iran from becoming armed with nuclear weapons. In the coming months, we will witness the end of the abilities of our diplomatic maneuvers, and that of the world, against Iran.�

But Farkash�s dark omen, as with the numerous similar and intensifying alarm bells that have been sounded down the last decade-and-a-half, is expected to go unheeded.

Like its predecessors since 1991, this Israeli government appears unable or unwilling to withstand the enormous pressure that has consistently been brought to bear by the Gentile nations.

The world universally insists that Israel move ahead and create the conditions for the birthing of a Palestinian state.

This demand has remained unwavering and has intensified, despite the terrible number of Jewish lives that have been lost, and the thousands of Israelis who have been mutilated and bereaved since the signing of the Oslo Accords � hailed in 1993 as heralding the arrival of peace.

The Palestinian state-in-the-making would be set up in the Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria � the former area the soft underbelly of Israel, the latter two comprising the cradle of Israel�s nationhood and the mountainous high ground that would tower over what would be left of Israel.

And while the forces from without squeeze down on the Israeli people, secular forces within the country, apparently blind to the suicide they expect their state to commit, are forging ahead towards next year�s elections.

Oozing with self-confidence in his ability and qualifications to secure Israel against the

Islamic threat, Sharon and his new Kadima Party is gaining massive momentum and drawing like-minded Israelis to him like moths to a candle flame.

Unless the flame is extinguished, things look increasingly bleak for the country that was supposed to be a haven for the Jewish people, but which has become de facto the most dangerous place for Jews to live on earth today.

 Israel�s Military Intelligence chief: Existential threat growing (http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=913)


Title: IDF girds for terror escalation, warns it may cut power to Gaza
Post by: Shammu on December 21, 2005, 10:39:47 AM
Last update - 17:00 21/12/2005            
Palestinian sources: Hamas man killed by IDF in Jenin raid
By Jonathan Lis, Nir Hasson and Ze'ev Schiff, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and News Agencies

Israel Defense Forces troops killed a militant from the Hamas terrorist organization during an arrest raid in the West Bank on Wednesday, a Palestinian security source said.

Palestinian gunmen and Israel Defense Forces soldiers exchanged fire on Wednesday after troops entered the West Bank town of Jenin to arrest suspected militants, witnesses said. One soldier was wounded in the shootout.

The IDF and Border Police forces surrounded a building where Ziad Moussa, wanted for the murder of IDF soldier Yonatan Avaron during a similar raid earlier this year, was hiding. The IDF closed off the area, members of the militant group said.

During the altercation, the soldiers sent an army sniffer dog into the building to find Moussa, but the dog could not locate him. The forces then entered the building to search for Moussa, who was found alive with a pistol and two magazines of ammunition.

The army confirmed that it carried out an arrest operation in Jenin but did not provide further details.

IDF girds for terror escalation, warns it may cut power to Gaza
As the army prepares for the possibility of an escalation in terrorism, Israel is threatening to cut off the Gaza Strip's electricity supply if a Qassam rocket hits a vital Israeli infrastructure facility.

There is a working assumption in senior Israeli military circles that the situation will worsen, Israel Radio reported early on Wednesday. "The [Palestinian] Authority is not doing a thing, and appears as if it is losing control," it quoted Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz as saying.

"After the elections in the Authority we may find ourselves facing a terror offensive, therefore the IDF must be deployed and ready so that Israel is not surprised, and will know how to defend its citizens," Mofaz was quoted as saying.

Mofaz is expected to meet Wednesday with Egypt's intelligence chief General Omar Sulieman and ask him to pressure Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas to fight militant groups.

Agriculture Minister Israel Katz (Likud) told Israel Radio on Wednesday that Israel should bomb the Gaza Strip, forcing some of its residents to flee to the Sinai desert. He said that he would demand that the government undertake an efficient deterrence policy in order to prevent the firing of Qassam rockets into Israel.

Labor MK Matan Vilnai said Wednesday that one of the ways Israel can prevent the firing of Qassam rockets into Israel is by having IDF troops enter the northern Gaza Strip and staying there. He told Israel Radio that by disturbing the Palestinians' lives, the army will be able to make Palestinian civilians prevent the firing of Qassam rockets, but warned that killing Palestinian civilians would achieve the opposite.

On Sunday, after a Qassam rocket fired from Gaza landed not far from an Israel Electric Corporation power plant south of Ashkelon, Israel told the Palestinian Authority that it planned to shut off power for two hours in the early hours of Monday morning, as a warning of things to come if the Qassam fire did not stop.

However, implementation was indefinitely postponed to give the main Palestinian hospital in Gaza time to purchase emergency generators.

The Qassam rocket fired at the power plant which, according to the Israel Defense Forces, was launched from the ruins of the settlement of Dugit, in the northern Gaza Strip, was the second rocket fired at Ashkelon in the past week.

Five Qassams landed in Israel Tuesday: one on an army base, and the other four in open areas near Sderot and the western Negev. Israel realiated by shelling the open areas from which the rockets were launched.

The Qassams caused neither casualties nor property damage, but the Red Dawn warning system in Sderot went off twice Tuesday evening, sending the town's residents scurrying for shelter.

Cutting off Gaza's electricity would not only turn off all the lights in the Strip, but would also cause damage to many workshops and factories. Israel has never before taken such a step, just as it has never interfered with the PA's water supply, and at least some Palestinian leaders apparently believe that Israel would never dare to do so.

During a high-level discussion among Israeli officials, some argued that such a step would be ineffective because to the Palestinian terror organizations, the most important thing is hurting Israel - even if this also results in serious harm to the Palestinians.

However, the prevailing view was that Palestinian public opinion could pressure the terrorist organizations to restrain their attacks if many Palestinians came to feel that the price they were paying for such attacks was
too high.

IDF girds for terror escalation, warns it may cut power to Gaza (http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/660361.html)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: lsm250 on December 22, 2005, 02:06:52 PM
Something to think about would an attack from Iran possibly destroy the Temple Mount thence the rebuilding of the Temple? I have really enjoyed the end times study and feel that maybe not in my lifetime but shortly, the gears are turning. Thank God I'm saved! Bless you all. lsm250


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 22, 2005, 02:24:41 PM
Something to think about would an attack from Iran possibly destroy the Temple Mount thence the rebuilding of the Temple? I have really enjoyed the end times study and feel that maybe not in my lifetime but shortly, the gears are turning. Thank God I'm saved! Bless you all. lsm250


In a certain way that is kind of humurous.



Title: Mofaz okays new measures to curb Qassam fire in northern Gaza
Post by: Shammu on December 23, 2005, 01:36:07 AM
Last update - 07:39 23/12/2005            
Mofaz okays new measures to curb Qassam fire in northern Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and Agencies

Following a meeting with senior security officials, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz on Thursday evening approved a series of new measures aimed at curbing Qassam fire from the northern Gaza Strip.

According to the plans, Israel Defense Forces artillery would prevent Palestinians from entering the evacuated settlements of Dugit and Elei Sinai, where the debris is used for hideaways for rocket launching units.

However, the IDF did not receive the go-ahead for the shelling.

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Hours after a new volley of Qassams landed in Israel, with one rocket striking an army base and lightly wounding five soldiers, Israeli officials issued stauch threats to step up military measures to counter the rocket fire from the Gaza Strip.

"Certainly if the rocket fire on Ashkelon does not stop, there will be a very fierce response, and no option can be ruled out, including a ground operation," said Vice Premier Ehud Olmert, adding, "but of course, we must reach the conclusion that this is the right method at the time we make the decision."

David Baker, an official in the Prime Minister's Office, told Haaretz that, "the rocket launching was from territory that Israel evacuated. Israel is compelled to respond, including steps that we haven't taken until now. We have no other choice."

Baker went on to say that "the Palestinian Authority continues to not take any discernable measures against terrorism."

He would not elaborate, however, on the steps that Israel plans to take, saying only that "necessary" measures would be employed.

On Thursday a Palestinian man was killed in an Israel Defense Forces artillery barrage on northern Gaza, officials at a Gaza hospital said. The barrage was part of an Israeli response to a series of rocket attacks on southern Israel earlier in the day that wounded five soldiers.

Israel said the shells were aimed at fields that militants used to launch the rockets at Israel. Most of the fields were empty, but shrapnel from one of the shells that landed near the Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza killed Ibrahim Naana, 21, hospital officials said.

The five soldiers were lightly wounded when the second of two Qassam rocket fired by Islamic Jihad militant struck an army base not far from the southern city of Ashkelon.

The five received medical treatment at the scene and were later transferred to Barzilai Hospital in Ashkelon.

Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attacks. The first Qassam landed south of Ashkelon, Israel Radio reported, hitting an open area near the city's industrial zone.

Three militants killed in Nablus raid
Also Thursday morning, IDF troops killed three Palestinian militants in a raid in the West Bank city of Nablus, Israel Radio reported.

The radio also reported the arrest of an Islamic Jihad militant behind a deadly suicide bombing in Hadera, after a gag order had been lifted.

In the Nablus raid, witnesses identified one of the gunmen killed as Bashar Khalani, Nablus commander of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The other two were named as Anas Al-Sheikh, another PFLP member, and Ahmed Jiyousi of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a militant faction linked to the ruling Fatah party.

The three were killed while trying flee from a house surrounded by soldiers.

The PFLP threatened revenge for the attack.

"Israel will pay the price for this crime," said Kaed Al Ghoul, a senior PFLP leader.

Some 3,000 people gathered Thursday afternoon in Nablus' main square at a joint funeral for the militants. Dozens of gunmen fired in the air, and the crowd chanted, "Bashar, our friend, the response will be in Tel Aviv."

Khalani was reponsible for the suicide attack in the Carmel open air market in Tel Aviv last year that killed three people, and at the Geha junction two years ago, in which four people were killed.

According to the report, IDF special forces besieged a house in central Nablus where several wanted militants were believed to be holed up, when the three gunmen jumped out a window in an attempt to avoid arrest.

Police special forces that also participated in the raid fired at the three and killed them as they were running away. It was initially reported that the three were wounded by the gunfire but their deaths were later confirmed by the army.

The army continued to encircle the house, believing more wanted men to be hiding there. The security forces called on the wanted men to exit voluntarily to be taken in for questioning, army sources told Israel Radio.

Islamic Jihad militant Mohammed Kashua, from the West Bank, was arrested by IDF troops and Shin Bet security forces for his role in the bombing at Hadera open-air market.

Kashua transported the bomber in the suicide attack in the coastal city two months ago, in which six Israelis were killed and 27 were wounded.
Mofaz okays new measures to curb Qassam fire in northern Gaza (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/661261.html)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on December 23, 2005, 03:12:21 AM
Brothers and Sisters,

We don't know - GOD might be unfolding Bible Prophecy as we speak. We won't know HIS ways or the day, but HIS ancient Promises will be fulfilled to the letter. It would be fascinating to watch from the perspective of a student of Bible Prophecy, but I personally feel that HE will take us home to Glory before the worst of it. If not, we will know part of what's going on, and HE will be with us.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

JESUS CHRIST IS KING!!

Love In Christ,
Tom

Proverbs 14:26 NASB  In the fear of the LORD there is strong confidence, And his children will have refuge.


Title: U.S. Jews: Arabs want to destroy Israel
Post by: Shammu on December 24, 2005, 04:39:21 PM
U.S. Jews: Arabs want to destroy Israel

78 percent of American Jews think Arabs seek the destruction of Israel, not return of occupied territories, a new American Jewish Committee survey reveals
Yitzhak Benhorin

Most American Jews (78 percent) believe that the goal of the Arabs is not the return of occupied territories but rather the destruction of Israel, a new annual survey of The American Jewish Committee revealed.

According to the survey, 18 percent of United States Jews think that the Arabs' sole desire is to return to the 1967 borders. However, 65 percent of respondents stated they support the establishment of a Palestinian state, while 36 said they were against it.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon won the backing of 67 percent of the poll's participants, who said they strongly support the Israeli leader's handling of relations with the Palestinian Authority and Israel's building of the security fence.

Most American Jews, 60 percent, want Jerusalem to remain united under Israeli control, while 36 percent back a division of the capital.

At the same time, more Jews in the U.S. (46 percent) favor a removal of settlements, than those who are against it (36 percent).

Anti-Semitism in U.S. concerning

The survey further revealed that although 79 percent of American Jews said they believe that the state of Israel is important for their Jewish identity, 59 percent never visited the country.
Twenty percent of respondents visited Israel once, and another 20 percent came to the country twice or more.

American Jews are concerned about anti-Semitism in their country. Most Jews (65 percent) said that anti-Semitism in the U.S. constituted "some kind of a problem," and 27 percent defined it "a very serious problem."

The survey inspected the religious denomination of the Jewish public in the U.S., revealing that 10 percent of American Jews are orthodox, 32 are conservative and 29 reform. One of every four Jews (26 percent) defines himself as 'just Jewish,' and is not affiliated to any synagogue.

Opposed to Iraq war

On the question of the Jewish American attitude toward the Iraq war, the AJC poll discovered that 70 percent oppose the war, while only 28 percent support it. Sixty percent of American Jews disapprove of the way the U.S. government is handling the campaign against terrorism, and 36 percent approve of it.

Almost half of the survey's respondents, 49 percent, said they support the U.S. taking military action against Iran to prevent it from developing nuclear weapons. Forty six percent said they oppose such action.

U.S. Jews: Arabs want to destroy Israel  (http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3189119,00.html)


Title: Heavy rains flood Israeli cities
Post by: Shammu on December 24, 2005, 04:41:05 PM
Dec. 24, 2005 12:37 | Updated Dec. 24, 2005 21:54
Heavy rains flood Israeli cities
By JPOST.COM STAFF
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Heavy rainfall caused floods in many parts of Israel on Saturday, especially in Haifa and the northern region.

Several vehicles were trapped beneath the train bridge in the city because of the high water level. Similar flooding occurred on the road between the Kiryat Ata and stadium junctions as well as at the check post and Fureidis junction near Zichron Ya'acov.

Also, in the northern coastal city of Nahariya several roads were closed when the Ga'aton River running through the city overflowed. A lane in the Lod Road, connecting the Krayot region and Acre was likewise shut down.

Damage was also caused in the central region, with the road between Ramat Hakovesh and Kfar Saba closed because of flooding. A tree in Kiryat Ono was blown down by the wind and crushed three cars.

The heavy rains also drowned streets in Ra'anana. Rescue services were called to evacuate 18 elderly people after the first floor of their retirement home was covered with water.

Army Radio said unusually high levels of rainwere recorded, with 30-50 mm falling northward of Haifa since Friday alone.

Meanwhile, some 60 centimeters of snow piled on the northern Mount Hermon site on Saturday. While the site had not yet opened to the public, "if 20 more centimeters fell overnight and Sunday it was expected to open by Tuesday," said site manager Menachem Baruch.

The rain and snow were predicted to move southward during the day and evening. Some Galilee peaks had already gathered 40 centimeters of snow as of Saturaday evening.

Jerusalem, and even Bethlehem may experience a white Christmas for the first time in many years.

Jerusalem was preparing for difficulties expected to be caused by the snow on Saturday evening. The municipality readied snowplows and salt trucks in case their services will be needed. Likewise, police and fire-fighting services planned on holding their emergency crews on call to keep main traffic routes open.

The city was also taking measures to assist the homeless and to provide city residents with supplies should the snow shut down transportation.

The good news anticipated from the rainy weather was a forecasted rise in the Kinneret water level. The lake's level went down by a few centimeters during the unusually long and warm dry spell that came over Israel in recent weeks. The Kinneret, which serves as Israel's primary source of potable water, is still three meters short of its maximal level.

Heavy Rains Flood Israeli Cities (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1134309639334&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull)


Title: Iran denies receiving Russian enrichment proposal
Post by: Shammu on December 25, 2005, 09:50:06 PM
Iran denies receiving Russian enrichment proposal
Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:17 AM ET169

By Parinoosh Arami

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran on Sunday denied receiving a proposal from Moscow to build a joint venture plant to enrich uranium in Russia but said it was happy to continue negotiations over its nuclear programme with the European Union.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said on Saturday it had submitted a formal offer to Iran that would allow it to establish a civilian nuclear programme but transfer enrichment to Russia.

The plan is aimed at easing international concerns that Tehran could make nuclear bombs from highly-enriched uranium. Iran says it only wants to enrich uranium to a low-grade, suitable for use in nuclear power reactors.

"We haven't received any written and definite proposal from Russia yet," Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told a weekly news conference.

"It is clear that we will review with a positive attitude any plan or proposal that recognizes Iran's right for enrichment on it own soil," he added, reiterating a stance which EU diplomats have said amounts to a rejection of the Russian plan.

Iranian nuclear negotiators met counterparts from the EU trio of Britain, Germany and France in Vienna last week for the first face-to-face talks for several months.

Both sides agreed to meet again in January. Asefi said January 18 was a possible date for the next round of talks.

"What was achieved is that the negotiations will continue, which is a step forward in itself," he said. "I believe that if the Europeans respect Iran's rights there is room for further work."

"We don't want negotiations just for the sake of negotiations we want negotiations to achieve our right to (produce) nuclear fuel. Of course, we are ready to give guarantees that we won't deviate from peaceful nuclear activities," he added.

EU diplomats and arms control experts have expressed doubts that the negotiations will resolve the nuclear standoff given the two sides' positions.

Asefi said Iran believed the best solution would be for an international consortium to carry out enrichment in Iran. But Western nations are loathe to allow the Islamic Republic to make nuclear fuel on its own soil.

Iran denies receiving Russian enrichment proposal (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-12-25T091712Z_01_FLE531785_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml&archived=False)


Title: 65% of Palestinians Support Al-Qaeda Attacks
Post by: Shammu on December 29, 2005, 12:35:11 AM
65% of Palestinians Support Al-Qaeda Attacks in the US and Europe:

Religious War against "Infidels"
inherent to PA religious ideology
By Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook

A poll published this week and reported in Palestinian newspapers found that 65% of Palestinians "support Al-Qaeda actions in the USA and Europe." Religiously-motivated Al-Qaeda attacks against those referred to as "Infidels" have killed thousands of Americans and Europeans. Why would the Palestinian population so overwhelmingly support the murder of Christians?

For years, the Palestinian Authority religious leadership has been presenting its war against Israel's existence as merely one part of its global Islamic war being fought against the Christian-Jewish West. Just last month, a PA TV religious leader, during a televised sermon, included this prayer for the killing of all Infidels:

"Destroy the Infidels and the Polytheists! Your [i.e. Allah's] enemies are the enemies of the religion…! Count them and kill them to the last one, and don't leave even one."
[Suleiman Satari, PA TV, November 18, 2005]

This prayer - clear incitement to the genocide of "Infidels," a term that includes the Christian West - is common from PA religious leaders. Prayers to annihilate all Infidels have been included in Friday prayers on PA TV at least six times in recent months.

Presenting the destruction of the Christian-Jewish West as part of Allah's plan comes even from the highest religious powers, and receives the passive sanction of the highest political powers. Two of these sermons were delivered by Yusuf Jum'a Salamah, PA Minister of the Waqf and Religion - the most important religious office in the PA. Even though PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas was present on at least one of these occasions, similar prayers for genocide continued on the PA-owned and controlled TV in subsequent weeks.

<SNIP>
This post would fill 4 pages, it is so big! You have to read it all!!!!!!

65%  of Palestinians Support Al-Qaeda Attacks in the US and Europe (http://www.worthynews.com/zone.cgi?http://www.pmw.org.il/Latest%20bulletins%20new.htm#b261205)

Edited to add; I put this up on my Christianty Rocks 2website. This is a big news item, and I imagine it will be coming down soon.
Here is the page link! (http://www.freewebs.com/christanityrocks2/palestinianssupport.htm)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 29, 2005, 07:17:14 PM
IDF: Hizbullah uses Russian rockets

 

Intelligence chief slams Russia, says weapons sold to Syria end up in terrorists' hands
Smadar Peri

 
Oh, those Russians: Hizbullah has been using Russian-made RPG rockets purchased by Syria to target Israel, outgoing IDF Intelligence Chief Aharon Zeevi-Farkash charged in a special interview with Israel's leading newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth.

 
In his farewell interview, Farkash chose to blast the Russians for their contribution to the war waged by Hizbullah terrorists against Israel.

 
"The Russians' and Syrians' true face has been exposed, (they) buy and sell weapons with a commitment not to pass it on, yet those weapons are used against us in a blatant manner," he said.

 
Farkash noted that Hizbullah terrorists involved in the attempt to abduct soldiers on the Lebanese border about a month ago fired RPG-29 rockets. "Those are Russian-made rockets purchased by the Syrians in recent years and handed over to Hizbullah," he said.

 
"We are talking about a high-impact weapon because it has deep penetration capabilities," Farkash said. "The usage of rockets against us explains why Israel strongly opposed the sale of SA-18 missiles to Syria."

 

Turning his attention to the rockets fired on the northern town of Kiryat Shmona two days ago, Farkash said they too were Russian-made but came from older shipments.

 
"We know that in April 2005, ahead of the departure of Syrian forces from Lebanon, (President) Bashar Assad made sure to transfer military equipment and combat means to Palestinian groups and to Hizbullah," Farkash charged.

 
"And there it is…weapons Syria purchased from Russia are being handed over to elements that are acting against us," he said.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 29, 2005, 07:18:20 PM
Iraq al Qaeda claims Israel attack: Web
ReutersReuters

Dec 29, 2005 — DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda in Iraq said it had launched missiles at Israel from Lebanon as part of a "new attack" on the Jewish state, a statement posted on the Web said on Thursday.

"The lion sons of al Qaeda launched … a new attack on the Jewish state by launching 10 missiles … from the Muslims' lands in Lebanon on selected targets in the north of the Jewish state," said the statement, attributed to al Qaeda and posted on an Islamist Web site.

It appeared to be the first claim of responsibility from al Qaeda for an attack on Israel from Lebanon. The statement could not be authenticated, but was posted on a main Web site frequently used by Iraqi insurgent groups.

 The statement did not give the date of the attack.

It was not immediately clear if the group was referring to a rocket strike which wounded three people in an Israeli border town late on Tuesday, or some other attack.

Israeli warplanes attacked a Palestinian guerrilla group's training camp in Lebanon in response to that rocket attack.

"This auspicious attack was a response by the mujahideen (holy fighters) to the oath by the mujahid sheikh Osama bin Laden, leader of al Qaeda … which the (Jews) and idolaters' servants in Muslim countries failed to grasp. The future shall be more bitter and more harsh," said the statement.

In August, Iraq's al Qaeda said it was behind a failed rocket attack on U.S. Navy ships in Jordan's Red Sea port of Aqaba.



Title: Iran, Russia agree to talks on atomic plan: diplomat
Post by: Shammu on December 30, 2005, 01:15:55 AM
Iran, Russia agree to talks on atomic plan: diplomat
Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:59 AM ET164

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Top Iranian and Russian officials agreed on Thursday to hold talks on a Russian proposal aimed a resolving Tehran's nuclear standoff with the West, an Iranian diplomat close to the talks said.

The diplomat, speaking to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said the agreement came during a telephone conversation between Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov

Iran, Russia agree to talks on atomic plan (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-12-29T135929Z_01_SIB950347_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-RUSSIA.xml&archived=False)


Title: Palestinian militants say truce ends at midnight
Post by: Shammu on December 31, 2005, 05:11:38 PM
Palestinian militants say truce ends at midnight
Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:33 AM ET11

 By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - Militant Palestinian factions said on Saturday that as of New Year's Day they would no longer be bound by a truce that has brought the quietest spell since the start of the five-year-old uprising.

An increase in violence since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in September has kept peacemaking on hold, but the lull has brought relief on both sides of the front line.

The armed groups said they would no longer be committed to following "a period of calm" despite the efforts of President Mahmoud Abbas to preserve a ceasefire he agreed with Israel last February.

A big resurgence of violence could be an added threat to a January 25 election, already endangered by growing disorder.

"We in the Islamic Jihad and resistance factions are free of commitment to this calm," Islamic Jihad leader Khader Habib told Reuters.

The armed groups say the truce cost them more than they gained because Israel continued raids and did not free all Palestinian prisoners, as they had demanded. Israel said its raids were to stop militants who were planning attacks.

Israel says it holds Abbas responsible for the continuation of the ceasefire since it was agreed with him and not the militant groups. Israel has long pressed Abbas to crack down on militants rather than talking to them.

"The Palestinian Authority must come to its senses," said one Israeli official.

HAMAS KEY
Despite the new threats, it is far from clear how much will change on the ground.

Islamic Jihad had already carried out suicide bombings during the truce, including one in the West Bank on Thursday, saying it was taking revenge for Israeli attacks.

The powerful militant group Hamas, which like Islamic Jihad is sworn to destroying Israel, has not said it will resume attacks after the truce expires -- even if it says it will no longer feel bound to follow it.

Any major upsurge of violence could delay the forthcoming election in which Hamas expects to do well.

"Hamas and Qassam (the armed wing) will deal with any Zionist attack against our people in a suitable manner and in that way preserve the election process and preserve Palestinian blood," said a Hamas spokesman.

Al-Aqsa, despite being part of Abbas's Fatah movement, has been among the most active groups firing rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip.

"The truce is dead. By continuing its assassinations and occupation, Israel killed it long before it actually expired," said Abu Qusai, a spokesman. "The formula is bombardment for bombardment and targeting civilians for targeting civilians."

To try to stem the rocket fire, Israel declared a "no-go zone" in the northern Gaza Strip this week. Palestinians condemned the move as tantamount to retaking land it had given up after 38 years of occupation.

Israel has ruled out talks on Palestinian statehood until Abbas disarms militants, a process the Palestinians are meant to begin under a U.S.-backed peace "road map". Israel has failed to meet its own promise under that plan to freeze settlement growth.

Palestinian militants say truce ends at midnight (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-12-31T153256Z_01_SCH155905_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-TRUCE.xml&archived=False)

My note; As I post this, midnight is about 50 minutes away in Israel.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on January 01, 2006, 12:45:49 AM
Quote
Israel has ruled out talks on Palestinian statehood until Abbas disarms militants, a process the Palestinians are meant to begin under a U.S.-backed peace "road map". Israel has failed to meet its own promise under that plan to freeze settlement growth.

Palestinian militants say truce ends at midnight

My note; As I post this, midnight is about 50 minutes away in Israel.

Dreamweaver,

Brother, it would never do for me to be a politician in the Middle-East. I would have called that so-called road map for peace a train wreck after the first Palestinian missile and taken all the land back - plus some. The Palestinians have never wanted peace. They are determined to have war, and their wishes should be granted. No country in the world would tolerate a bunch of terrorists firing missiles at will and doing suicide bombing, so it's not realistic to ask Israel to do anything except provide security for their people and put the terrorists completely out of business. That is the only politics that terrorists understand, and negotiations with terrorists is a complete JOKE.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 01:11:58 AM
Quote
Israel has ruled out talks on Palestinian statehood until Abbas disarms militants, a process the Palestinians are meant to begin under a U.S.-backed peace "road map". Israel has failed to meet its own promise under that plan to freeze settlement growth.

Palestinian militants say truce ends at midnight

My note; As I post this, midnight is about 50 minutes away in Israel.

Dreamweaver,

Brother, it would never do for me to be a politician in the Middle-East. I would have called that so-called road map for peace a train wreck after the first Palestinian missile and taken all the land back - plus some. The Palestinians have never wanted peace. They are determined to have war, and their wishes should be granted. No country in the world would tolerate a bunch of terrorists firing missiles at will and doing suicide bombing, so it's not realistic to ask Israel to do anything except provide security for their people and put the terrorists completely out of business. That is the only politics that terrorists understand, and negotiations with terrorists is a complete JOKE.
Chances are you would make a better politician in the Middle-East, then I would. War would have already broken out, if I was there. :-X

Did I say that?  ??? ;D


Title: Iran develops uranium separation machinery
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 03:11:05 PM
Iran develops uranium separation machinery
Sun Jan 1, 2006 9:47 AM ET16

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran said on Sunday it had developed machinery to separate uranium from its ore, part of the Islamic state's ongoing drive to become self-sufficient in nuclear technology.

The mixer-settler machinery was developed by Iran's Atomic Energy Organization (IAEO), state television said.

"Unfortunately, because of the problems that exist, it was not possible for us to buy this machine from abroad and we had to build it domestically. Fortunately, we succeeded," an unidentified IAEO official said.

Iran's efforts to build a full nuclear fuel cycle has caused alarm in the West which fears Tehran could use the technology to build atomic weapons. Iran says it only wants to use its nuclear facilities to generate electricity.

In August Iran announced another breakthrough in nuclear technology by using biotechnology to produce larger and cheaper quantities of uranium oxide, or yellow cake, from uranium ore.

Yellowcake is processed and then enriched to produce nuclear reactor fuel or, if highly enriched, bomb-grade material.

Iran devolops uranium separation machinery (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-01T144734Z_01_SCH152880_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-MACHINERY.xml&archived=False)

My note; Sooner or later, the world will have to deal with Iran, and North Korea. But this won't happen, till God is ready.
Bob


Title: IDF fires at Kassam launch-sites in northern Gaza
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 03:13:24 PM
Jan. 1, 2006 21:43
IDF fires at Kassam launch-sites in northern Gaza
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH AND JPOST STAFF


The IDF fired at the "no-go" zone in northern Gaza on Sunday evening in response to the three Kassam rockets fired at Israel throughout the day.

A Kassam rocket fired from Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza Strip exploded Sunday afternoon in an open area between Kibbutz Nir Am and Sderot, while another two rockets fell earlier Sunday in non-populated areas of the western Negev. There were no reports of casualties or damage in any of the incidents.

IDF forces were searching for one of the rockets, which was fired from the outskirts of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip. The rocket was believed to have fallen near Kibbutz Nir Yitzhak in the western Negev. The second rocket landed near Kibbutz Mivtahim.

A fourth Kassam reportedly landed inside Gaza.

Israeli security officials noted that all of the rockets were fired from an area outside the "no-go" zone implemented by the IDF during Operation Open Sky.

The Palestinian terror group Hamas vowed on Sunday to retaliate against Israel for killing two Palestinians in the northern Gaza Strip. Three people were also wounded in the late Saturday IAF air strike, the first fatal attack in the border area since Israel declared it a "no-go" zone.

The IDF said the terrorists were spotted preparing to fire a rocket from the area of Elei Sinai, one of the 21 settlements evacuated during the pullout from Gaza.

The air force fired at the Palestinians and identified a hit, the military said.

Relatives identified the dead as Motaz Hamdouna, 26, and Hamza Hamdouna, 22.

"We reaffirm that this crime will not go without punishment," Hamas said in a statement faxed to news agencies on Sunday. The group suggested that the end of a truce on midnight Saturday - which Hamas had largely adhered to - would mean more violence.

"After the final moment of truce has past, we say the enemy will pay the price for the crimes it has committed against our sons during the whole truce period."

Hamas has accused Israel of repeated violations of the cease-fire that began Feb. 8 and has carried out what it called revenge attacks for specific Israeli operations. It should be noted that Israel was never a signatory to the truce established among the Palestinian factions.

Shortly after the incident, Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri threatened revenge against Israel while speaking to reporters at the Gaza hospital where the casualties were taken. However, he did not rule out extending the truce, which ended formally at midnight.

The Palestinian Interior Ministry issued a statement condemning the Israeli strike, saying a shell hit a Palestinian post, hindering police efforts to stop the firing of rockets at Israel.

IDF fires at Kassam launch-sites in northern Gaza (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1135696370391&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull)


Title: IDF on high alert for Islamic Jihad suicide bombs
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 03:15:36 PM
IDF on high alert for Islamic Jihad suicide bombs
By Amos Harel

Security forces are on high alert as mounting intelligence reports have suggested that Islamic Jihad could be planning suicide bombings inside Israel.

Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility on Friday for the suicide bombing that killed Lieutenant Ori Binamo and two Palestinians a day earlier. The organization identified Suheib Ibrahim Yasin, 19, from the West Bank village of Ilar, as the bomber who blew himself up after being stopped at a checkpoint near Tul Karm.

Binamo, 21, a platoon commander in the Nachshon infantry battalion, was buried in Haifa's military cemetery on Friday. Three of his soldiers were wounded in the bombing, one seriously and two lightly.

Over the weekend, the IDF arrested 16 residents of Ilar and nearby villages on suspicion of belonging to Islamic Jihad. However, senior military sources admitted that the Jihad network is still active and capable of dispatching more suicide bombers.

The police deployed hundreds of officers in the large cities to secure New Year's Eve parties.

On Friday, the IDF raided a Palestinian military intelligence compound in the Jenin refugee camp, in a search for Jihad fugitives. The IDF Spokesman's Office said the intelligence commander at the compound admitted that Jihad members use it, but said they had fled before the troops arrived.

A wanted Hamas operative was arrested in the town of Yata, south of Hebron.

Meanwhile, the IDF is continuing Operation Blue Skies in the northern Gaza Strip. Palestinians have been barred from reaching the former settlements Elei Sinai, Dugit and Nisanit, and only policemen are allowed in the area, on roads prearranged with the IDF. The army has been shelling the area frequently, and conducting strict aerial surveillance of areas adjacent to the "buffer zone," which is reportedly used by the cells launching Qassam rockets.

There were no launches over the weekend.

Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said during a visit to Ashkelon on Friday that he is convinced the IDF operation will disrupt the rocket fire.

"In time, you will see that the [IDF's] activity is obtaining results. The purpose of the deployment over the past few days is to restrict the Qassam launchers' momentum, and it is already succeeding in this," Mofaz said.

Yesterday, IDF troops came under light fire as they were moving along the Gaza Strip border and in the Jenin area. There were no Israeli casualties.

Defense establishment sources yesterday dismissed the threats made by some Fatah factions yesterday to resume attacks against Israel after the end of the truce in the territories. The sources said Islamic Jihad is not keeping the internal Palestinian truce agreement anyway.

Hamas currently has no interest in resuming terror on a large scale, because it is interested in having the Palestinian parliamentary elections held on schedule and hopes to do well in them, the sources said.

As for Fatah, it will make no difference if a few rogue groups start trying to commit suicide bombings, they said.

Israel is more concerned over the growing anarchy in the Palestinian Authority.

Sheikh Hassan Yusuf, one of the most senior Hamas leaders in the West Bank, who has been imprisoned in Israel for the past two months, announced yesterday that he would not contend on the Hamas list in the elections. Hamas sources said Yusuf made this decision because of internal dissension between the movement's local and overseas leadership.

IDF on high alert for Islamic Jihad suicide bombs (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/664537.html)


Title: Ahmadinejad: Israel created to complete Holocaust
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 03:20:46 PM
Jan. 1, 2006 20:46
Ahmadinejad: Israel created to complete Holocaust
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
TEHRAN, Iran


Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who said the Nazi attempt to eradicate Jews in the Holocaust was "myth," has now charged that European countries sought to complete the genocide by establishing Israel, a Jewish state in the midst of Muslim countries.

"Don't you think that continuation of genocide by expelling Jews from Europe was one of their (the Europeans') aims in creating a regime of occupiers of Al-Quds (Jerusalem)?" the official Islamic Republic News agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying. "Isn't that an important question?"

Ahmadinejad said Europeans had decided to create a "Jewish camp" as the best means for ridding the continent of Jews and said the camp, Israel, now enjoyed support from the United States and Europe in what he termed the slaughter of Muslims.

Ahmadinejad: Israel created to complete Holocaust  (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136102652521&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

My note; The man just can't seem to make up his mind. ;D


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 01, 2006, 05:06:02 PM
'Palestinians agree':
Wipe Israel off map
Arab leader claims there's consensus Iran's president correct with solution
January 1, 2006
4:53 p.m. Eastern

A senior Palestinian official says Palestinians share the sentiment of Iran's president that Israel should be "wiped off the map," or at the very least, moved to Europe.

The statement from Mahir al-Tahir, representative of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, was reported by the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting News Network.

In November, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatened to "wipe Israel off the map."

Then in December, he suggested European nations should give up some of their territory if they believed the World War II-era Holocaust took place, noting, "certain European countries would have the world go with their stand that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and have passed laws punishing anyone who says anything to the contrary."

"Granting without accepting that the Holocaust did occur, our question to the Europeans is: 'If innocent Jews were indeed butchered by Hitler, why should Palestinians be made to pay the cost in order to seek redress for the occupiers of Jerusalem?'"

Ahmadinejad continued: "If the killing of Jews in Europe is true and the Zionists are being supported because of this excuse, why should the Palestinian nation pay the price?"

"The Islamic world should give up its policy of passivity and deal with the Palestinian issue more actively," he said.

On Friday, al-Tahir of the PFLP stated Ahmadinejad's view is based on historical realities.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 05:26:20 PM
This is for a note, since both Pastor Roger, and myself are posting about the Holocaust.

This is from research I did a while back....

 Country...... Population ... Number of Jews killed., and percentage.

1. Poland............ 3,300,000 .... 2,800,000..... 85.0
2. USSR ..............2,100.000.....1,500,000......71.4
3. Romania............. 850,000 ..... 425,000...... 50.0
4. Hungary .............404,000...... 200,000 ......49.5
5. Czechoslovakia.....315,000 ......260,000....... 82.5
6. France............... 300,000 .......90,000 ......30.0
7. Germany............. 210,000 ......171,000 ..... 81.0
8. Lithuania............ 150,000 ......135,000.......90.0
9. Holland................150,000 ........90,000.......60.0
10. Latvia ................95,000 ........85,000.......89.5
11. Belgium............. 90,000..... ...40,000....... 44.4
12. Greece...............75,000 ........65,000 .......80.0
13. Yugoslavia..........75,000... .....55,000 .......73.3
14. Austria.............. 60,000 ........40,000....... 66.6
15. Italy.................. 57,000 ........15,000 ..... 26.3
16. Bulgaria............. 50,000 .........7,000 .......14.0
17. Others............... 20,000 .........6,000 .......30.0
......................... _________ ..... ________... ____
Totals ................. 8,301,000 ...5,978,000.......72.0%

Resesarching I have found that 72%, of the jews in europe, were killed. This figure counts, death camps, combat, and others.  :'(


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 01, 2006, 05:46:55 PM
Brother that is absolutely horific. With the research that you have done into that war I am sure that you must have a lot of such information.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 01, 2006, 05:49:10 PM
With people such as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad it is obvious that they are liars. I find it hard to believe that with such blatant lies that they still gain the respect and assistance from various other countries.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 05:59:06 PM
Brother that is absolutely horific. With the research that you have done into that war I am sure that you must have a lot of such information.

I do and there is, though I am reluctent to post it. The material, would make you cry. :'(

With people such as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad it is obvious that they are liars. I find it hard to believe that with such blatant lies that they still gain the respect and assistance from various other countries.


Well what do you expect out of the land of a portion of  Gog.


Title: 'Palestinians agree': Wipe Israel off map
Post by: Shammu on January 01, 2006, 06:02:28 PM
'Palestinians agree':
Wipe Israel off map
Arab leader claims there's consensus Iran's president correct with solution
Posted: January 1, 2006
4:53 p.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (courtesy Radio Netherlands)

A senior Palestinian official says Palestinians share the sentiment of Iran's president that Israel should be "wiped off the map," or at the very least, moved to Europe.

The statement from Mahir al-Tahir, representative of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, was reported by the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting News Network.

In November, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatened to "wipe Israel off the map."

Then in December, he suggested European nations should give up some of their territory if they believed the World War II-era Holocaust took place, noting, "certain European countries would have the world go with their stand that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and have passed laws punishing anyone who says anything to the contrary."

"Granting without accepting that the Holocaust did occur, our question to the Europeans is: 'If innocent Jews were indeed butchered by Hitler, why should Palestinians be made to pay the cost in order to seek redress for the occupiers of Jerusalem?'"

Ahmadinejad continued: "If the killing of Jews in Europe is true and the Zionists are being supported because of this excuse, why should the Palestinian nation pay the price?"

"The Islamic world should give up its policy of passivity and deal with the Palestinian issue more actively," he said.

On Friday, al-Tahir of the PFLP stated Ahmadinejad's view is based on historical realities.

'Palestinians agree': Wipe Israel off map (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48146)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 01, 2006, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: DreamWeaver link=board=4;threadid=5900;start=165#msg117887

I do and there is, though I am reluctent to post it. The material, would make you cry. Cry


[quote

No, I wouldn't want any of that. I have already seen and heard most of that and it did make me cry.

I was meaning though information of the less graphic nature.



Title: Iran President: Israel Completed Holocaust
Post by: Shammu on January 02, 2006, 12:25:21 PM
Iran President: Israel Completed Holocaust
Jan 01 5:34 PM US/Eastern

By NASSER KARIMI
Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's hard-line president who has said the Holocaust was a myth, now has charged that European countries sought to complete the genocide by establishing a Jewish state in the midst of Muslim countries.

"Don't you think that continuation of genocide by expelling Jews from Europe was one of their aims in creating a regime of occupiers of Al- Quds (Jerusalem)?" the official Islamic Republic News agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying Sunday. "Isn't that an important question?"

Ahmadinejad said Europeans had decided to create a "Jewish camp" as the best means for ridding the continent of Jews. He said the camp, Israel, now enjoyed support from the United States and Europe in the slaughter of Muslims.

In October, Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Last month, Ahmadinejad said the Holocaust, in which Nazi Germany killed six million Jews, was a myth. After global outrage over the comments, he said that Europeans, if they insist the Holocaust occurred, should cede some of their territory for a Jewish state.

He said anti-Semitism had a long history in Europe, while Jews had lived peacefully among Muslims for centuries.

His remarks have been condemned by the White House, Israel, Germany, France and the European Commission, among others. Germany has said the remarks would affect negotiations over Iran's nuclear program.

European negotiators are pushing Iran to move its uranium enrichment facilities to Russia in a compromise solution to a dispute with the United States, which wants to stop Iran from producing nuclear weapons. Talks are set to continue this month.

Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said the Russian proposal that the two nations enrich uranium in Russian territory could not ignore Iran's right to carry out enrichment at home.

"It's not logical for a country to put the fate of its nation at the disposal of another country even if it's a friend. You can meet part of your fuel needs from abroad," Larijani said on state-run television late Sunday.

"History and experience show that if you don't have technology, you will damage your independence," he said.

Larijani also warned of a "crushing" response if its nuclear and military facilities were attacked by the U.S. or Israel.

"If there is any truth in such talks, Israel will suffer greatly. It's a very small country within our range," he said.

Iran said Sunday it has produced equipment for separating uranium from its ore, a fresh development in Tehran's drive to control the nuclear- fuel cycle, state television reported Sunday.

The broadcast claimed the "settler-mixer" was a highly effective way to produce uranium, quoting Amir Hossein Farhadi, a researcher for Iran's Atomic Energy Organization.

"Foreign countries were not ready to sell it to Iran since it could be applicable in the cycle," Farhadi said.

Iran claims the program is solely for generating electricity.

The U.S. has pushed for Iran to be taken before the United Nations Security Council, where it could face economic sanctions over the dispute.

Click me, to read the report. (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/01/D8ES5HTO6.html)

My note; Mahmoud Ahmadinejad just can't seem to make up his mind. He says one thing, then another, destroying creditable he says. ;D

Resting in the hands, of the Lord.
Bob


Title: Vatican also wants Jerusalem?
Post by: Shammu on January 04, 2006, 12:10:59 AM
Vatican also wants Jerusalem?

Vatican envoy: Israel, Palestinians cannot be trusted to safeguard holy sites
Ahiya Raved

Israel cannot be trusted? The Vatican's legal advisor in Israel, David Jaeger, harshly criticized Israel’s policy regarding safeguarding Christian holy sites.

 

Speaking during an international conference at a Haifa University conference Tuesday, Jaeger said Jerusalem is an important city the fate of which should not be left in the hands of Israel and the Palestinians.

 

Any solution to the status of Jerusalem needs the approval of the international community, said Jaeger, adding that the Palestinian Authority has also failed in keeping with international conventions on preserving holy sites.

 

Jaeger said there is a contradiction between agreements signed between Israel and the Vatican on preserving Christian Holy sites and Israeli laws dating from the British mandate in Palestine.

 

The Israeli government took away the courts' authority to deal with issues related to lands and funds belonging to the Roman Catholic Church, causing legal disputes that have been dragging in courts for years, the Vatican envoy said.

 
The conference is a unique opportunity to hold academic discussions of issues pertaining to Jerusalem and holy sites, bring together intellectuals and experts from Israel, the territories and the international community.

 
Dr. Yitzhak Reiter, one of the event's organizers, said: “Our aim is to hold a discussion on the burning issue of Jerusalem – at a time of relative calm – in an attempt to try finding solutions acceptable to all sides. We should remember that the breakthrough that led to the Oslo Accord started with a similar discourse between Israeli and Palestinian intellectuals under international sponsorship."

Vatican also wants Jerusalem? (http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3194646,00.html)

My note;  I guess the Vatican want more of the world.....


Title: Iran insists it has right to enrich uranium
Post by: Shammu on January 04, 2006, 12:19:59 AM
Iran insists it has right to enrich uranium
KSENIA SVETLOVA and news agencies, THE JERUSALEM POST    Jan. 2, 2006

The spokesman for the government of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted on Monday that Iran has a "right" to carry out uranium enrichment, the process that could lead to the development of a nuclear bomb, on its own soil, despite efforts by Russia to have the work transferred to Russian soil to ease international concerns, Iranian media reported.

Gholam-Hossein Elham, however, told journalists at his weekly press conference that Teheran would study the Russian proposal on the basis that it could carry out enrichment domestically as well.

Ali Larijani, secretary-general of Iran's Supreme National Security Council and top nuclear negotiator, officially rejected on Sunday any Russian proposal that would overlook Iran's right to enrichment within its own borders.

The offer would deny Teheran's right to "be in charge of its own fate" on energy matters, Larijani told state television.

Official Teheran has rejected the Russian offer, but Moscow is not going to call it quits. Sources close to Sergei Kirienko, the head of ROSATOM, the federal atomic energy agency, told The Jerusalem Post that the issue will be discussed further during Kirienko's official visit to Iran next month. Kirienko was appointed the head of the agency in November 2005 and it will be his first visit to Iran as a head of ROSATOM.

According to Sergei Novikov, Kirienko's press secretary, in the course of the visit Kirienko will inspect the nuclear reactor in Busher, which is supposed to go on line later this year and will hold negotiations with the heads of Iranian atomic energy program. Among other issues, the highly disputed Russian offer to enrich uranium will be discussed, disclosed the source.

Iranian government-controlled television reported that the subject was also discussed in a telephone conversation last week between Igor Ivanov, head of Russia's National Security Council, and Larijani, who criticized the offer but didn't reject it out-of-hand. Ivanov's office denies this report.

During the last 10 days, the Iranian position on the Russian offer has changed several times - from a complete denial that such an offer was ever made, to a statement by Jawad Vaidi, head of the Iranian negotiating team in Vienna, who said Iran is willing to further study the offer.

Moscow still hopes that the latest declaration is not the end of the story, as the heads of state see this deal as the only possible solution to the Iranian atomic dead-end.

Russia sees in Iran a vital strategic and economic partner and is eager to maintain its ties with Teheran, but not at the cost of compromising relations with the EU-3, Britain, Germany and France. While the activating of the reactor at Busher draws closer then ever, analysts believe Moscow will increasingly apply its political leverage in attempt to have the offer accepted or at least reconsidered.

Iran insists it has right to enrich uranium (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136102658730&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Sharon No Longer in Equation
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 04, 2006, 06:10:37 PM
Sharon suffers second collapse

Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon has been rushed to hospital to undergo surgery for a brain haemorrhage but may not recover, a senior political source has said.

Mr Sharon's authority has been transferred to his deputy, Ehud Olmert.

The prime minister was taken to the hospital from his ranch in the Negev desert. Local media reported that his lower body had been paralysed.

The incident is the second serious health scare to befall Mr Sharon in less than a month. On Dec 18 he suffered a mild stroke and was hospitalised for three days.

The episode came at a precarious moment in his career. Frustrated by attacks from the right wing of his own Likud party, Ariel Sharon had quit to form a new centrist movement, named Kadima.

After Mr Sharon's collapse it was feared that the new party, which was tipped for victory in Israel's forthcoming elections, would die with its founder.

His doctors didn't expect long-term health complications to result from the incident, but they discovered a birth defect in the prime minister's heart that apparently contributed to his collapse.

For the past month Mr Sharon has been receiving blood thinners to try to prevent a recurrence of the clotting that caused the first stroke.

He was scheduled to have a heart operation tomorrow in the Jerusalem hospital where he is now being treated.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 05, 2006, 12:23:25 AM
'Rocket barrage
if Sharon dies'
1 terror leader threatening life of replacement prime minister
Posted: January 4, 2006
7:36 p.m. Eastern

JERUSALEM – Palestinian groups in the Gaza Strip are watching the news regarding Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's deteriorating health carefully and will celebrate with Qassam rocket firings at Jewish towns if Sharon dies, terror leaders told WorldNetDaily.

One militant leader threatened the life of Sharon's temporary replacement, Deputy Minister Ehud Olmert, who was installed as prime minister just hours ago.

"I am ready with my candies and my rockets and praying to Allah that Sharon dies. We have prepared a celebratory barrage of rockets ready to fire into Israel on the occasion of the death of our enemy," said Abu Abir, spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees, an umbrella group of Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists responsible for firing hundreds of Qassam rockets and mortars at Jewish towns.

Hamas leader Dr. Mahmoud al-Zahar told WND Sharon's condition "plunges the Israeli political scene into chaos, which could bring about an equal response from the Palestinians."

Sharon tonight was rushed to the hospital and suffered a "significant stroke" that caused "massive bleeding to the brain," according to officials at Jerusalem's Hadassah University Hospital, which is treating the Israeli leader. Sharon is undergoing emergency surgery after being anesthetized and placed on a breathing machine, one of Sharon's attending physicians told reporters.

Executive powers have been officially transferred to Olmert. According to Knesset law, Olmert can serve for a maximum 100 days, after which new elections would be held.

Sources close to Sharon told WND the prime minister's condition is life threatening, and that there was a significant chance he might not survive.

"We are not hopeful," said a senior Sharon aide.

One senior political leader said he has information Sharon is "clinically dead. He is on life support machines in the operating theater that can keep him alive for an extended period, but doctors are pessimistic he can return to normal functioning."

Celebrations reportedly are underway in the Gaza Strip, with families distributing sweets and gunmen shooting into the air.

"I personally am waiting to celebrate. I have my fingers crossed," Abu Abir said. "Sharon was one of our biggest enemies."

Abu Abir told WND now that Olmert is serving as prime minister "he is moved up on our list of targets. We will target Olmert with a lot of might."

Al-Zahar said he is hoping Sharon survives.

"Sharon's new party Kadima was good for us. They made clear in no uncertain terms that part of their platform was more withdrawals from the West Bank and from Jerusalem. His passing from the political scene now places all of that in jeopardy. We don't know what are the policies of Olmert. Whether he supports giving us the West Bank and Jerusalem."

Sharon this past summer withdrew Israel's Jewish communities from the Gaza Strip in spite of fierce opposition from members of his own Likud party. He recently announced he is leaving Likud to start his own "centrist" party, Kadima, prompting new elections that were scheduled for March. Since then, multiple Kadima members have told reporters the new party is looking to change Israel's borders and may withdraw from parts of the West Bank.

But Israeli commentators across the political spectrum criticized Kadima as a one man party and warned Sharon's health could negatively impact the party's chances of winning upcoming elections.

Sharon suffered a stroke last month. Doctors were planning to perform an invasive cardiac procedure tomorrow to close a microscopic hole in the Israeli leaders heart.

His exact condition tonight is unknown.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on January 05, 2006, 08:54:53 AM
Brothers and Sisters,

I am just one old "fundy" who loves to read the Holy Bible and study Bible Prophecy. I am at a complete loss to understand why Israel would give a square inch to avowed terrorists who are determined to kill them. It appears to be insane to give the terrorists any advantage that would reduce the security of Israel.

There is an old and unquestioned lesson here that appears to have been ignored. You don't negotiate with terrorists, and you never give terrorists anything positive for the violence and killing they have done. Why would anyone make a treaty with someone who is killing innocent people before, during, and after the so-called treaty? Is there a logical answer for this question? NO! In the same circumstances, what would any other nation in the world do?

NOW, we get down to Jerusalem, the absolute center for end of this age events. CHRISTIANS - Read, Study, and Watch! If you have burdens on your heart about lost family members and friends, give your attention to that burden now.  This might or might not be the last days of this age, but the burdens on your heart shouldn't be ignored or put off. AND REGARDLESS, it is always time for Christians to pray, especially for the LORD'S Work. It really doesn't matter what you believe or don't believe about the end of this age, hosts of people are still dying in their sins. If you believe as I do, the vast majority of the entire world population will be killed during end of this age events and a 7 year period of time known as the Tribulation Period. Again, regardless of what you believe, hosts of people are already dying in their sins, so the LORD'S Work in reaching the lost is the highest priority.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 NASB  Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.

Philippians 3:20-21 NASB  For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;  who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

John 1:10-13 NASB  He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Revelation 1:7-8 NASB  BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Romans 8:16-18 NASB  The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Philippians 1:27-28 NASB  Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; in no way alarmed by your opponents--which is a sign of destruction for them, but of salvation for you, and that too, from God.


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 05, 2006, 02:55:21 PM
Ariel Sharon
clinically dead?
Local media make dire claim, doctor tries 'to refute the rumors'
Posted: January 5, 2006
2:43 p.m. Eastern

Despite doctors' attempts to counter media reports, local print and television stations in Israel are reporting Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is clinically dead following a massive stroke yesterday.

Sources tell Israel Insider Sharon "died" at 11 a.m. today local time, but Shlomo Mor-Yosef, director of Hadassah Hospital where the prime minister lies, denied reports of Sharon's death and says he is "serious but stable."

Local TV station Channel 10 reports those closest to Sharon as saying he has suffered "brain damage," which, Israel Insider contends, could mean the leader has suffered brain death, or lack of cerebral activity, while his heart continues to beat.

In updating reporters, however, Mor-Yosef said Sharon's pupils were responding to stimulation, which independent doctors said was a positive sign of independent brain activity, the Associated Press reported.

Doctors today said Sharon likely will be sedated for 72 hours. He underwent seven hours of surgery to stop brain hemorrhaging last night. Sharon's first stroke, a mild one, occurred Dec. 18.

"The prime minister is suffering from low intracranial pressure, and is heavily sedated," Mor-Yosef said. "He will be respirated for at least the next 24 hours. All the parameters that we can check are as expected, following an operation of this type."

Continued the doctor: "I came out to update you and to refute the rumors flooding the country," referring to claims that Sharon had already died and that the government is purposely delaying the news.

"Sharon is still alive," an aide in the intensive care unit told Ynet News. But Channel 10 quotes "someone very close" to the prime minister as saying that he had suffered "brain damage."

The TV station also is reporting that Sharon will be detached from one or more of his life-support machines in the next day or two, with the likelihood that he will not be able to survive without them.

The station also indicated the official death announcement is planned for Sunday, when world stock markets are closed.

Israel Insider claims its source said the Israeli Ministry of Defense in Tel Aviv was informed about noon today that Sharon "died during surgery."



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 01:11:21 AM
No change in condition of Israel's Sharon-hospital
Fri Jan 6, 2006 5:23 AM GMT13


JERUSALEM (Reuters) - There was no change overnight in the condition of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who is clinging to life on a respirator after a severe stroke, the director of Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital said on Friday.

"The night passed without change," Shlomo Mor-Yosef told reporters. "All the parameters that we are measuring... are stable."

He said the parameters included blood pressure, pulse, kidney function and intercranial pressure.

The team of doctors who were treating Sharon would meet on Friday morning to decide whether to carry out another CT scan to assess the extent of damage to his brain, Mor-Yosef said.

Sharon suffered a severe cerebral haemorrhage on Wednesday and is now under heavy sedation at Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital.

Surgeons said they stemmed bleeding in the 77-year-old leader's brain in a seven-hour operation and described his condition as critical but stable.

No change in condition of Israel's Sharon-hospital (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-06T052258Z_01_MCC436609_RTRUKOC_0_UK-MIDEAST.xml)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 01:15:07 AM
Last update - 18:29 04/01/2006            
Hamas official in Syria says group's truce with Israel is over
By The Associated Press

DAMASCUS - The Hamas truce with Israel has expired, a senior Hamas official said in Syria on Wednesday, leaving the Palestinian militant group free to resume attacks. But he acknowledged that Hamas leaders in Gaza wanted to maintain the cease-fire through this month's elections.

"The truce formally ended with the end of the year according to all the Palestinian factions that had signed it," Moussa Abu Marzouk, the deputy leader of the Hamas political bureau, told The Associated Press in a phone interview.

In the face of continuing Israeli attacks in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the Palestinians would not stand idle, Abu Marzouk said. "The truce has become meaningless now," he added.

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However, Hamas' top electoral candidate in the Gaza Strip, Ismail Haniyeh, reiterated Tuesday that although the truce had expired on Dec. 31, the group would continue to act in the "national interest" until after the Jan. 25 parliamentary elections.

Abu Marzouk said Haniyeh's remark was a political position taken in view of the elections and an example of "the confusion currently plaguing the Palestinian arena."

Abu Marzouk would not explain how Hamas could reconcile his position with that of Haniyeh's.

Early last year, Egyptian mediators persuaded the Palestinian militant groups to abide by an unwritten cease-fire with Israel with the aim of enabling the peace process to move forward. The informal cease-fire was due to last until the end of 2005.

Last month, both Khaled Mashaal, the Hamas' political leader, and Ramadan Shallah, the leader of Islamic Jihad, said they would not renew the truce after Dec. 31.

The two groups, which are notorious for carrying out suicide bombings in Israel, accused Israel of failing to honor its side of the truce agreement, such as halting its attacks and releasing Palestinian prisoners.

The Egyptian government has invited all the Palestinian groups to come to Cairo for talks on extending the cease-fire through 2006.

Abu Marzouk said the Palestinian factions were likely to go to Cairo for talks after the elections. But, he warned, "there is a consensus that as long as there is (Israeli) occupation, there will be resistance."

The United States and Israel, which consider Hamas and Islamic Jihad as terrorist organizations, have demanded that Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas disarm the two groups. But Abbas has said that an attempt to disarm them would provoke civil war.

Hamas official in Syria says group's truce with Israel is over (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/666312.html)


Title: Ehud Olmert, Acting Israeli Prime Minister
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 01:25:19 AM
Ehud Olmert, Acting Israeli Prime Minister

JERUSALEM — Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who took over after Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke, is a seasoned operator and Sharon confidante who is comfortable in cutthroat local politics and in world capitals alike.

Like Sharon, his mentor in recent years, Olmert underwent a political transformation from hawk to moderate, from backing Israeli control of all of the West Bank and Gaza Strip with constant settlement expansion to helping Sharon lead Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza and part of the West Bank in the summer.

Olmert, 60, a longtime ally of Sharon in the hardline Likud Party -- which both quit in November -- gained governing experience in his decade as mayor of Jerusalem, one of Israel's most sensitive jobs, balancing conflicting Jewish and Palestinian interests and wrestling with constant budget shortfalls by raising money abroad.

Olmert was born in 1945 in the town of Binyamina in northern Israel. His military service included a stint as an officer in an infantry unit and later as a reporter for the Israeli army journal.

He earned his bachelor's degree in psychology and philosophy and later a law degree from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and worked briefly as a lawyer before entering politics.

He was first elected to parliament in 1973, at the age of 28. In 1988, he became a minister without portfolio in Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir's government and in 1990 was promoted to health minister.

In 1993, he was elected mayor of Jerusalem, defeating the legendary Teddy Kollek, who had run the city for nearly four decades.

In 1999, he challenged Ariel Sharon for leadership of the Likud Party. He lost badly, but since his defeat became increasingly closer to Sharon and in recent years has generally been considered the prime minister's most loyal political ally.

In 2003, he left Jerusalem City Hall to serve in Sharon's second government. He was appointed vice premier and minister of industry, trade and labor. Following the resignation of Benjamin Netanyahuin August, he took over as finance minister.

Married and a father of four, Olmert lives in Jerusalem and is known to be a die-hard fan of the Beitar Jerusalem soccer club.


Title: Erekat 'sorry about Sharon's demise'
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 01:30:43 AM
Erekat 'sorry about Sharon's demise'
JPost staff and ap, THE JERUSALEM POST    Jan. 5, 2006

"We are all human beings and we are all sorry about Sharon's demise...We will of course negotiate with whoever leads Israel," said Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat on Thursday.

"We don't try to tell them who should lead their negotiations. Of course, we don't interfere in internal Israeli politics, but the fact is that if someone sneezes inside Israel, we Palestinians immediately catch a cold.

"The Palestinian elections will be held as scheduled at the end of this month, provided that Ehud Olmert was not so foolish as to prevent Palestinians from voting in East Jerusalem. Delaying the elections would only make Hamas stronger."

He estimated that Hamas would get at least 25-30 percent of support, but said that it was healthy for the Palestinian Authority to have genuine opposition and that Hamas in Parliament would have to mature and would not be allowed to maintain its own army.

Earlier in the day French President Jacques Chirac sent get-well wishes to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon following his brain hemorrhage and said Thursday that the ailing leader's "courageous" peace efforts must continue.

Chirac "hopes the Israeli prime minister will overcome the painful trial he is going through," the president's office said in a statement.

France also offered full support and friendship to Ehud Olmert, Sharon's deputy who is acting as premier in his place, the statement added.

The French president also said he hoped "the courageous initiatives that Mr. Sharon embarked on, which were praised by the entire international community, will continue."

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw praised Sharon Thursday as a "towering figure, not only in Israel, but in the entire Middle East," and wished him a speedy recovery.

US President George W. Bush praised Ariel Sharon on Wednesday night as "a man of courage and peace" and said he was praying for the prime minister to recover.

Bush said in a written statement that he and first lady Laura Bush "share the concerns of the Israeli people ... and we are praying for his recovery."

"On behalf of all Americans, we send our best wishes and hopes to the prime minister and his family," the president said.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said much the same in a statement, wishing Sharon a full recovery.

However, Palestinian sources said Thursday that the US envoys have cancelled their visit.

Erekat 'sorryb about Sharons demise' (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136361014837&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter)


Title: Mideast Situation Grows More Uncertain
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 01:36:31 AM
Mideast Situation Grows More Uncertain

By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

The list of uncertainties bedeviling the Middle East has grown longer and deeper: Palestinian factions fighting each other in the streets, the relentless insurgency in Iraq, the rising political clout of Islamic militants in Egypt, political uncertainty in Syria and Lebanon.

Now there's another: the direction Israel will take with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon unlikely to return to power.

"This makes a complicated picture even harder to sort out," said Ehsan Ahrari, a political analyst based in Alexandria, Va. "The old structures of the Middle East are gone or they are imploding."

Sharon himself had sensed the shifts. The former general once gave Israeli forces full rein to battle the Palestinian uprising, or intefadeh — which restarted after his September 2000 visit near Jerusalem's Al Aqsa Mosque, one of Islam's most important sites.

But then he surprised the world by implementing a peace process on his terms: sealing off Palestinian lands and forcing Israeli settlers from the Gaza Strip. It gave 1.3 million Palestinians a degree of self-rule, but also amplified the power struggles opened by the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in 2004.

On Wednesday, rebellious Palestinian gangs rammed stolen bulldozers into the Gaza-Egyptian border wall and stormed buildings to protest the arrest of a leader of the Fatah Party, which is now led by Arafat's embattled successor, Mahmoud Abbas. Other troubles loom ahead for Fatah.

Palestinian parliamentary elections, planned for Jan. 25, are expected to hand a strong showing to the militant group Hamas, whose followers have carried out suicide bombings against Israeli targets in the past but have proclaimed a temporary truce. A Hamas spokesman, Mushir al-Masri, said Sharon's departure from politics "will change the world political map."

"And to the good," he added, "because a dictator and a murderer will be departing."

Hamas' turn to the ballot box mirrors moves by Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the once ultra-radical movement that took about 20 percent of parliament seats in elections last year. The Brotherhood — although officially outlawed — fielded independent candidates that exposed cracks in the hold of President Hosni Mubarak, one of the last old-guard Mideast leaders.

In Iraq, meanwhile, Shiite Muslim parties heavily influenced by conservative clerics are expected to control the new parliament after the results from last month's voting are officially announced.

It will be more than a stunning reversal from the decades of repression under Saddam Hussein's regime led by Iraq's minority Sunnis. A Shiite-dominated parliament will be forced to seek ways to confront a Sunni-led insurgency that shows no signs of weakening.

Suicide bombers claimed at least 130 lives Thursday, including Iraqi police recruits and Shiite pilgrims in the holy city of Karbala. A roadside bomb also killed five U.S. soldiers in the largest single-day death toll since Sept. 29.

"Everywhere you look on the map of the Middle East, you see trouble and no real solutions," said Diaa Rashwan, political researcher for Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo, Egypt. "Go in any direction. It's not an encouraging picture."

In Lebanon, U.N. investigators may seek to go as high as Syrian President Bashar Assad for clues about last year's blast that killed Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and 20 others in Beirut. Hariri opposed Syrian influence in Lebanon. Mass protests and international pressure eventually forced Syria to withdraw its troops from Lebanon in April, ending a 29-year military presence.

Syria also is being pushed by Washington to tighten controls on its border with Iraq, which is considered to be a main pipeline for Iraqi insurgents. In Saudi Arabia, security forces have battled with homegrown militants opposing the U.S.-allied monarchy. And in Jordan, King Abdullah II has given the government a broad mandate to crack down on Islamic extremism following deadly suicide bombings in November.

But Iran's nuclear showdown with the West remains the highest priority.

In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warned Thursday that Iran is running out of time to avoid being brought before the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions. Her comments followed sharp criticism by the chief U.N. nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, about Iran's decision to resume test work on some equipment used in uranium enrichment — a possible pathway to nuclear arms.

Iran says the enrichment is needed to make fuel for energy-producing nuclear reactors. But the United States and other nations believe Iran seeks to make weapons-grade uranium for nuclear warheads.

In 1981, Israeli warplanes destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor and some Israeli politicians have openly discussed military options if Iran appears to be moving toward nuclear arms. The rhetoric has grown sharper since Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Israel neither admits nor denies it possesses nuclear arms, but it's thought to have about 200 warheads, according to the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Sharon's authority as prime minister has been temporarily transferred to Vice Premier Ehud Olmert. A next milestone — if Sharon cannot return — will be March 28 legislative elections.

Sharon's newly formed party, Kadima, or Forward, is essentially built around his personal aura. The race is suddenly thrown open with two distinct poles: hardline Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu and Labor Party chairman Amir Peretz. But any outcome has to grapple with one inescapable issue: whether to move forward with Sharon's vision of the peace process.

"Sharon caused a fundamental earthquake in the concept of the peace process," said Ned Walker, president of the Washington-based Middle East Institute and a former U.S. ambassador to Israel and Egypt. "His way was separation and to let the Palestinians stew in their own juices, so to speak ... How this will continue without Sharon is what everyone is asking now."

Mideast Situation Grows More Uncertain (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060106/ap_on_re_mi_ea/sharon_mideast_in_turmoil;_ylt=AlWT9ZcK2QGhM_ZglQSrGZWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 10:59:39 AM
Sharon's Brain Scan Shows Improvement

10 minutes ago

JERUSALEM - Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon showed "significant improvement" after five hours of emergency brain surgery Friday, and his intracranial pressure returned to normal, hospital officials said.

Sharon remains in serious condition, said Hadassah Hospital director Dr. Shlomo Mor-Yosef. He said Sharon was returned to intensive care after the surgery and a brain scan.

Sharon's Brain Scan Shows Improvement (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060106/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_sharon_144;_ylt=AizEFcVrM7OlOmbgH9.9r2RH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 06, 2006, 11:03:38 AM
Arabs Don't See End to Mideast Conflict

By JASPER MORTIMER, Associated Press Writer Thu Jan 5, 9:48 AM ET

CAIRO, Egypt - Many in the Arab world despise the ailing
Ariel Sharon, blame him and Israel for the turmoil in the Middle East and — while giving credit for the withdrawal from Gaza — expressed little hope Thursday that his departure would end the decades-long conflict with the Palestinians.

Rejectionist Palestinians living outside the West Bank or Gaza were particularly gloomy.

"There isn't any political solution on the horizon, neither in Sharon's presence, nor in his absence so long as the Israeli policy is dependent on the United States," said Maher Taher, the representative of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in Damascus.

Senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told Al-Arabiya television that Sharon's health crisis had cast a deep shadow of doubt over the Jan. 25 Palestinian elections, a bellwether of regional political sentiment.

"Will Sharon's health be used to hinder the elections?" he asked. "There are many questions we cannot answer at this stage."

The Palestinian vote was teetering between postponement and going ahead on schedule before Sharon was rushed to the hospital for extensive surgery after a massive stroke Wednesday night. The militant Hamas organization — the author of suicide bombings that have killed hundreds of Israelis — is running candidates for the first time and was poised to hand the Palestinian authority a drubbing.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas had already suggested the vote might have to be delayed, citing what most saw as the convenient cover of Israel's refusal to allow East Jerusalem Palestinians to vote. The Israeli crisis could provide yet another excuse.

Mohammed Nazzal, member of the Hamas political in Beirut, warned against postponing the Palestinian elections and said he expected the Israelis to use Sharon's illness or death as "an excuse to justify putting off the elections. This is something we reject."

"Sharon's absence removes from the political scene a professional killer who mastered the murder of Palestinians and addressed the most violent, brutal and bloody strikes (against Arabs) in the history of the Arab-Israeli struggle," he said. "The Palestinian people can only hope that what is coming is better, not worse."

A Beirut a newspaper editor said he feared Sharon's absence from the scene could lead to more Israeli-Palestinian violence and postponement of the election.

"This is a big event," said Sateh Noureddine, managing editor of Lebanon's As-Safir newspaper. If Sharon dies, it "could lead to the postponement of the Palestinian elections and the Israeli elections and possibly could lead to a security deterioration," he told The Associated Press.

He predicted, however, the repercussions would largely be limited to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"It's a quake, whose aftershocks will be local — Israeli and Palestinian — because the (Mideast) conflict has become a Palestinian-Israeli one," Noureddine told AP.

While some Palestinian and Arab hard-liners rejoiced over Sharon's illness — one calling it a gift from God — Arab media were largely restrained, with Al-Arabiya and Al-Jazeera, the pan-Arab satellite channels, carrying extensive and mainly straightforward reporting.

The television accounts gave considerable time to Sharon adviser Raanan Gissin as he explained the situation inside Israel.

And in a positive segment, Palestinian commentator Ghazi al-Saadi told Al-Arabiya that Sharon was "the first Israeli leader who stopped claiming Israel had a right to all of the Palestinians' land," a reference to Israeli's recent withdrawal from the
Gaza Strip.

"A live Sharon is better for the Palestinians now, despite all the crimes he has committed against us," he said.

Moderate Palestinian legislator Hanan Ashrawi praised Sharon's strength and charisma but criticized his politics.

"Sharon was a strong and charismatic leader who steered the politics toward the right and extremism," Ashrawi told Al-Arabiya. "Now it is clear that Israel needs a leadership that proceeds strongly toward peace, or else the extremist right will hijack the situation."

Ahabs Don't See End to Mideast Conflict (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060105/ap_on_re_mi_ea/sharon_arab_view;_ylt=AsWUnxvhRFtV1oQcxXIJ0EkLewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 06, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
Iran leader's messianic end-times mission
Ahmadinejad raises concerns with mystical visions
Posted: January 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Iranian President Mahmoud's Ahmadinejad's mystical pre-occupation with the coming of a Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi – is raising concerns that a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

While Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been making headlines lately by questioning whether the Holocaust actually happened, by suggesting Israel should be moved to Europe and by demanding the Jewish state be wiped off the face of the earth, his apocalyptic religious zealotry has received less attention.

In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.

According to a transcript of his comments, obtained and translated by Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, Ahmadinejad wasn't the only one who noticed the unearthly light. One of his aides brought it to his attention.

The Iranian president recalled being told about it by one of his delegation: "When you began with the words ‘in the name of Allah,' I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end."

Ahmadinejad agreed that he sensed the same thing.

"On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say 'Bismillah Muhammad,' he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura," he says. "I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn't move an eyelid, I'm not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!"

Ahmadinejad's "vision" at the U.N. is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah.

He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance."

According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.

All Iran is buzzing about the Mahdi, the 12th imam and the role Iran and Ahmadinejad are playing in his anticipated return. There's a new messiah hotline. There are news agencies especially devoted to the latest developments.

"People are anxious to know when and how will He rise; what they must do to receive this worldwide salvation," says Ali Lari, a cleric at the Bright Future Institute in Iran's religious center of Qom. "The timing is not clear, but the conditions are more specific," he adds. "There is a saying: 'When the students are ready, the teacher will come.'"

For his part, Ahmadinejad is living up to at least part of his call to the faithful. According to reports, he lives so modestly that declared assets include only a 30-year-old car, an even older house and an empty bank account.

Ahmadinejad and others in Iran are deadly serious about the imminent return of the 12th imam, who will prompt a global battle between good and evil (with striking parallels to biblical accounts of "Armageddon").

An institute set up in 2004 for the study and dissemination of information about the Mahdi now has a staff of 160 and influence in the schools and children's magazines.

In Iran, theologians say endtimes beliefs appeal to one-fifth of the population. And the Jamkaran mosque east of Qom, 60 miles south of Tehran, is where the link between devotees and the Mahdi is closest.

Ahmadinejad's cabinet has given $17 million to Jamkaran.

Shiite writings describe events surrounding the return of the Mahdi in apocalyptic terms. In one scenario, the forces of evil would come from Syria and Iraq and clash with forces of good from Iran. The battle would commence at Kufa – the Iraqi town near the holy city of Najaf.

Even more controversial is Ahmadinejad's repeated invocation of Imam Mahdi, known as "the Savior of Times." According to Shiite tradition, Imam Mahdi will appear on Judgment Day to herald a truly just government.

Missed by some observers in Ahmadinejad's speech at the U.N. was his call to the "mighty Lord" to hasten the emergence of "the promised one," the one who "will fill this world with justice and peace."

Who stands in the Mahdi's way?

A top priority of Ahmadinejad is "to challenge America, which is trying to impose itself as the final salvation of the human being, and insert its unjust state [in the region]," says Hamidreza Taraghi, head of the conservative Islamic Coalition Society.

Taraghi says the U.S. is "trying to place itself as the new Mahdi." This may mean no peace with Iran, he adds, "unless America changes its hegemonic ... thinking, doesn't use nuclear weapons, [or] impose its will on other nations."



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 06, 2006, 03:03:31 PM
Jewish groups urge:
Secede from Israel
New effort seeks 'biblical heartland' to break away for own sovereignty
Posted: January 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM  A new movement is set to be presented next week by residents of Judea and Samaria calling for Jews there to secede from Israel and create their own autonomous Jewish entity in part to head off the possibility of further unilateral Israeli withdrawals from the area, WND has learned.

The Judea Initiative, led by northern Samaria resident Yekutel Ben Yaacov, is seeking to gather signatures from Judea and Samaria's nearly 200,000 Jews for a manifesto declaring the creation of a sovereign Jewish authority that would govern itself independently according to Jewish law and would provide its own security.

Judea and Samaria are referred to by some as the West Bank, the name coined for the area after Jordan annexed it in 1948.

The initiative aims to create the new Jewish authority in any part of Judea and Samaria, even a small settlement, in hopes of eventually ruling the entire territory, Ben Yaacov said, explaining his initiative was prompted by talks of possible Israeli withdrawals from the area.

"We can't sit around and wait until Israel sends the bulldozers to take down Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria before attempting to counter the next Israeli withdrawal. We are acting now so we can retain our rightful biblical heritage," Ben Yaacov told WND.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon withdrew Israel's Jewish communities from the Gaza Strip last summer in spite of fierce opposition from members of his own Likud party. He recently announced he was leaving Likud to start his own "centrist" party, Kadima, prompting new elections currently scheduled for March. Since then, multiple Kadima members have told reporters the new party is looking to change Israel's borders with possible withdrawals from Judea and Samaria. There have been talks of disengagements from parts of Jerusalem as well.

It's unclear as yet how Sharon's massive stroke this week and his inability to govern will affect the future politics of Israel.

Currently, Judea and Samaria, inhabited by about 2.4 million Palestinians, is considered landlocked territory not officially recognized as part of any country. Israel calls the land "disputed." The United Nations claims Judea and Samaria is "occupied" by Israel, which maintains overall control of most of the area while the Palestinian Authority has jurisdiction in about 40 percent.

Judea and Samaria remained under Jordanian rule from 1948 until Israel captured the territory in 1967 after Jordan's King Hussein ignored Israeli pleas for his country to stay out of the Six Day War. Most countries rejected Jordan's initial claim on the area, which it formally renounced in 1988.

Ben Yaacov says his Judea Initiative takes advantage of Judea and Samaria's murky legal status to argue for independent Jewish sovereignty.

"Legally it's a no-man's land. The Palestinians used that status to create their own authority, so there is absolutely no reason the Jews can't do the same thing."

Ben Yaacov's group, Mishalot Israel, is holding a conference next week in Jerusalem's Old City to present the Judea Initiative. It will then begin petitioning both private citizens and entire communities to join.

He says already he has garnered interest from local residents and some town leaders.

"The plan hasn't even been announced or presented and already I am getting a lot of phone calls from people and at least one town that wants to sign on. They are hearing about it by word of mouth," Ben Yaacov said. "The area is the site of a lot of the Bible and has had a Jewish population for centuries. We will not allow the Israeli government to kick us out."

Many villages in the Judea and Samaria area, which Israelis commonly reefer to as the "biblical heartland," are mentioned throughout the Old Testament.

The Book of Genesis says Abraham entered Israel at Shechem (Nablus) and received God's promise of land for his offspring.

The nearby town of Beit El, anciently called Bethel meaning "house of God," is where Scripture says patriarch Jacob slept on a stone pillow and dreamed of angels ascending and descending a stairway to heaven. In that dream, God spoke directly to Jacob and reaffirmed the promise of territory.

And in Exodus, the holy tabernacle rested in Shilo, which is believed to be the first area the ancient Israelites settled after fleeing Egypt.

Ben Yaacov said his new Jewish authority would be "governed by Jewish law. Non-Jews, including Palestinians, are more than welcome to live there as long as they accept Jewish sovereign and agree to abide by the Seven Noahide laws, the most basic of biblical dictates."

He said the annexed territory would provide for its own security.

"A large contingent of Judea and Samaria residents served in the Israeli army. They currently defend their own settlements to a large extent. We would base ours on the same concept as Israeli security. Immediately after Israel was founded, it was attacked on all sides and it won every war because of the help of God and because of the same people we have with us."

The initiative states there are three primary reasons to form a Jewish authority in Judea and Samaria:

# "The new Jewish authority will protect Israel from terror and enhance Israeli security. It is more advantageous to have Jewish autonomy in Judea and Samaria in place of complete Palestinian autonomy, which will give the Palestinian terrorist groups more land from which to fire Qassams and launch attacks. The Jews who remain in the area will be accepting a certain level of self-sacrifice by putting themselves in harms way."

# "The creation of a Jewish authority will relieve tension and prevent bloodshed between Jew and fellow Jew by halting an Israeli withdrawal from Judea and Samaria. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews in the area, some of whom may use violent resistance in the face of any withdrawal. It will also alleviate some of the tension and rifts that would be created in Israeli society by any withdrawal."

# "The new Jewish authority will offer appropriate self-determination to fulfil the national aspirations of many religious Jews in Israel. The area will be ruled by Torah law as opposed to the current anti-religious government."

Ben Yaacov's Judea Initiative is not the first major push for Jews to secede from Israel. In 1989, the late author and Knesset member Rabbi Meir Kahane, a mentor of Ben Yaacov, attempted to found the State of Judea, a Jewish state in Judea and Samaria. That effort eventually fell through.

"Ours is different in that we are starting small," explained Ben Yaacov. "We are not talking about our own state, just an entity or authority, however small or large it will be."

Reacting to the news of calls for Jews to create their own authority, chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told WorldNetDaily, "This is the chaos and lawlessness [the Palestinian Authority] has warned about. If the Israeli government does not get its act together concerning the settlers, who by the way are armed to the teeth and acting like a parallel authority, the price will be paid in Palestinian blood."

Israeli government spokesmen Raanan Gissin and David Baker refused to comment on the issue.

Said Ben Yaacov, "There may be resistance at first, but eventually people will come to understand a lot of Jews in Judea and Samaria will not go along with any further withdrawals. Now those Jews will have a solution."

________________________

Things are definitely heating up in the Mideast.



Title: Iran leader's messianic end-times mission
Post by: Shammu on January 07, 2006, 03:51:04 PM
Iran leader's messianic end-times mission
Ahmadinejad raises concerns with mystical visions
Posted: January 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Iranian President Mahmoud's Ahmadinejad's mystical pre-occupation with the coming of a Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi – is raising concerns that a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

While Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been making headlines lately by questioning whether the Holocaust actually happened, by suggesting Israel should be moved to Europe and by demanding the Jewish state be wiped off the face of the earth, his apocalyptic religious zealotry has received less attention.

In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.


Ahmadinejad at the U.N.

According to a transcript of his comments, obtained and translated by Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, Ahmadinejad wasn't the only one who noticed the unearthly light. One of his aides brought it to his attention.

The Iranian president recalled being told about it by one of his delegation: "When you began with the words ‘in the name of Allah,' I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end."

Ahmadinejad agreed that he sensed the same thing.

"On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say 'Bismillah Muhammad,' he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura," he says. "I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn't move an eyelid, I'm not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!"

Ahmadinejad's "vision" at the U.N. is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah.

He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance."

According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.

All Iran is buzzing about the Mahdi, the 12th imam and the role Iran and Ahmadinejad are playing in his anticipated return. There's a new messiah hotline. There are news agencies especially devoted to the latest developments.

"People are anxious to know when and how will He rise; what they must do to receive this worldwide salvation," says Ali Lari, a cleric at the Bright Future Institute in Iran's religious center of Qom. "The timing is not clear, but the conditions are more specific," he adds. "There is a saying: 'When the students are ready, the teacher will come.'"

For his part, Ahmadinejad is living up to at least part of his call to the faithful. According to reports, he lives so modestly that declared assets include only a 30-year-old car, an even older house and an empty bank account.

Ahmadinejad and others in Iran are deadly serious about the imminent return of the 12th imam, who will prompt a global battle between good and evil (with striking parallels to biblical accounts of "Armageddon").

An institute set up in 2004 for the study and dissemination of information about the Mahdi now has a staff of 160 and influence in the schools and children's magazines.

In Iran, theologians say endtimes beliefs appeal to one-fifth of the population. And the Jamkaran mosque east of Qom, 60 miles south of Tehran, is where the link between devotees and the Mahdi is closest.

Ahmadinejad's cabinet has given $17 million to Jamkaran.

Shiite writings describe events surrounding the return of the Mahdi in apocalyptic terms. In one scenario, the forces of evil would come from Syria and Iraq and clash with forces of good from Iran. The battle would commence at Kufa – the Iraqi town near the holy city of Najaf.

Even more controversial is Ahmadinejad's repeated invocation of Imam Mahdi, known as "the Savior of Times." According to Shiite tradition, Imam Mahdi will appear on Judgment Day to herald a truly just government.

Missed by some observers in Ahmadinejad's speech at the U.N. was his call to the "mighty Lord" to hasten the emergence of "the promised one," the one who "will fill this world with justice and peace."

Who stands in the Mahdi's way?

A top priority of Ahmadinejad is "to challenge America, which is trying to impose itself as the final salvation of the human being, and insert its unjust state [in the region]," says Hamidreza Taraghi, head of the conservative Islamic Coalition Society.

Taraghi says the U.S. is "trying to place itself as the new Mahdi." This may mean no peace with Iran, he adds, "unless America changes its hegemonic ... thinking, doesn't use nuclear weapons, [or] impose its will on other nations."

Iran Leader's messianic end-times mission (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48225)


Title: Satan's little helpers
Post by: Shammu on January 07, 2006, 03:53:03 PM
Satan's little helpers
Posted: January 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recently referred to Israel as "the occupying regime of Al-Quds [Jerusalem]," describing it as a "disgraceful blot" that ought to be "wiped off the map." He was officiating at a "World Without Zionism" university conference, a forum duplicated like viral RNA on campuses the world over.

The United Nations, which has underwritten similar conferences, convened an emergency tea and crumpets session. Did members of the Security Council expel Iran for threatening genocide against a member state? Don't be silly – they simply condemned Ahmadinejad. As did the European Parliament. For their part, Ahmadinejad's Iranian supporters blamed the Jews for daring to deflect attention from the plight of the Palestinians to their own threatened demise. As for the Palestinians, they've already wiped Israel off their maps, cartographically at least.

The wickedly stupid online encyclopedia, Wikipedia, expressed confidence in the Islamic Republic's "constitutional" separation of powers: Ahmadinejad hasn't the authority to declare war on Israel – only Iran's Supreme Leader has. However, before warning all Arab countries against recognizing Israel's right to exist, this gabbing gorgon assured coreligionists that his prescription for Israel bore the imprimatur of Iran's first Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini.

It's unlikely Khomeini's cankered successor (Ali) would diverge. In any event, to prosecute an illegal and unjust war, George Bush overcame the obstacles American democracy placed in his path. Ahmadinejad, no doubt, has the will to find a way around the Iranian theocracy's "checks and balances."

Muslims don't disguise their finer feelings about Jews – no more than the Institute for Historical Review and its various patrons, Ahmadinejad included, do. Speak to Muslims from Baghdad to Birmingham to Bellingham and you'll likely hear the kind of "crude anti-Semitic propaganda unheard since Streicher," to quote Serge Trifkovic. That notorious anti-Semitic Tsarist forgery, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," is a best-seller across Arabia. Holocaust denial is as popular.

Neither is Ahmadinejad the first Iranian ruler to promise atomic retribution against Israel. According to William Sweet, writing in the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineer's Spectrum Magazine, the former Iranian president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said this:

If one day ... the world of Islam is mutually equipped with the kind of weapons Israel presently possesses, the world's arrogant strategy will then come to a dead end, because the use of an atomic bomb on Israel won't leave anything; however in the world of Islam [use of a bomb] will just cause harm, and this scenario is not far fetched.

To destroy the Jewish state, he's willing to dispatch Arabs with the same clinical detachment. Clearly, the problem with Mad Mahmoud and his predecessors isn't their fondness for pseudo-history, but their love of authentic (nuclear) science.

As Sweet has reported – and as Mohamed ElBaradei, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, has confirmed in a number of subsequent reports – the country with "the world's largest reserves of fossil fuels" is assembling the nuclear wherewithal with a speed and determination not seen since the heyday of Iraq's infamous nuclear weapons program of the 1980s."

The IAEA, which "operates the world's most elaborate tripwire system," is scared stiff, warning of a pattern and scope of violations hitherto unseen in the agency's experience. ElBaradei, you will recall, was right all along about Iraq. On Feb. 14, 2003, he stated categorically that there was no evidence of ongoing prohibited nuclear or nuclear related activities in that country.

This cautious man is now sounding the alarm about an Iranian nuclear program which "consists of practically everything needed to fuel a reactor or in effect to produce materials for bombs, including uranium mining and milling, conversion, enrichment, fuel fabrication, and heavy water production."

[Iran's assets, at Natanz, include a centrifuge pilot plant capable of churning out about 12 kilograms of bomb-grade material a year ... as well as a large, commercial-scale plant still under construction. The larger plant, to be situated in a hardened bunker 20 meters underground, could produce as much as half a ton to a ton of weapons-grade material a year. Iran is also known to have operated a more technologically sophisticated laser-enrichment pilot plant a few years ago, producing small amounts of lightly enriched uranium.

These activities are not all illegal under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty – secrecy about them is. Last month, DEBKAfile reported that "Iran's hard-line Guardian Council, the real power in the land ... ratified a parliamentary decision to block U.N. inspections should the Islamic republic's nuclear activities be referred to the U.N. Security Council for sanctions. In August, uranium conversion was resumed."

Robert Einhorn, top proliferation specialist in the Clinton administration, agrees: Iran has a nuclear weapons program. Her supporters disagree. They say Ahmadinejad is only "playing to the base." His bellicose threats they treat as mere exotic idiosyncrasies. And they draw moral equivalence between Israel and Iran: "Israel has nuclear weapons. Why not Iran?"

Other apologists have framed Iran's nuclear belligerence as the "ultimate safeguard against an attack." The reference is, presumably, to Iran's legitimate quest to defend against an American army that advanced on a neighbor – Iraq – and conquered it in the absence of provocation.

That Iran fears an out-of-control, aggressive United States is likely – and understandable. However, Iran's Majnun-in-Chief hasn't threatened the United States – he has threatened Israel. Yet Iranophiles seldom depict Israel's nuclear program as an equally legitimate, last-ditch defense. Instead, they contort like Cirque du Soleil contortionists to downplay the threat Iran poses to Israel.

To their credit, Muslims make no bones about the need to solve The Jewish Question for once and for all. (In case you're a public-school graduate, this is code for liquidation.) It's time Iran's dissembling defenders were as honest.

Satan's little helper (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48229)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on January 07, 2006, 09:20:10 PM
Quote
Dreamweaver Said:

To their credit, Muslims make no bones about the need to solve The Jewish Question for once and for all. (In case you're a public-school graduate, this is code for liquidation.) It's time Iran's dissembling defenders were as honest.

Satan's little helper

Hello Dreamweaver,

Brother, I wonder how much of the world knows that a show-down MUST happen with Iran now in less than 60 days. Many Christians who study Bible prophecy understand the possible implications. Regardless, the show-down MUST and will happen unless there are some dramatic changes. The worst-case scenario would be Israel having to handle the problem. The best case scenario would be some country other than America or Israel ending the problem without an attack. However, the mad-man of Iran does not appear to be interested in anything but war, so he will probably get his wish.

Everyone should already know there are probably dozens of plans to end the nuclear capability of Iran. It would be more intelligent to give Dennis the Menace nuclear weapons. So, hang on for a wild ride!

Love in Christ,
Tom

Galatians 2:19-21 NASB  "For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 07, 2006, 09:24:07 PM
I think Dennis the Menace would be a much better choice.



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 07, 2006, 09:42:33 PM
Quote
Everyone should already know there are probably dozens of plans to end the nuclear capability of Iran. It would be more intelligent to give Dennis the Menace nuclear weapons. So, hang on for a wild ride!

I think Marmaduke would be a better choice. ;D

(http://learningtogive.org/lessons/documents/images/unit42_lesson2_marmaduke01.jpg)


Title: Doctors Plan to Bring Sharon Out of Coma
Post by: Shammu on January 08, 2006, 02:43:42 PM
Doctors Plan to Bring Sharon Out of Coma

By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer 44 minutes ago

JERUSALEM - Doctors planned to start bringing Ariel Sharon out of his induced coma on Monday to determine how much brain damage the prime minister suffered from a massive stroke, hospital officials said Sunday.

Experts said the process could take six to eight hours and doctors should have a good idea of the extent of the damage by the end of the day.

One of Sharon's doctors said the prime minister — if he survives — would not be able to resume office, and acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the Cabinet he would work to carry on Sharon's political legacy.

Sharon remained in critical condition Sunday at Jerusalem's Hadassah Hospital after suffering a stroke late Wednesday and undergoing two lengthy surgeries to stop bleeding in his brain.

A new brain scan Sunday showed his vital signs, including intracranial pressure, were normal, Dr. Shlomo Mor-Yosef, the hospital's director, said.

"His condition is still critical but stable, and there is improvement in the CT picture of the brain," Mor-Yosef said.

The 77-year-old Sharon, Israel's most popular politician, was seen by many here as the best hope for resolving the Israel-Palestinian conflict. His grave illness, just three months before elections, stunned Israelis and left Middle East politics in limbo.

Geula Cohen, an old friend of Sharon's, visited him in the hospital Sunday and talked with his son Omri.

"Omri came out to me and saw my face and got really angry at me. 'What happened to you?' (he said) and 'Everything will be fine,'" she told Army Radio.

Doctors have kept Sharon in a medically induced coma and on a respirator since Thursday to give him time to heal from the trauma of the stroke and the surgeries.

Sharon's medical team decided that on Monday morning they would begin reducing the level of sedatives he is receiving and to begin pulling him out of the coma.

Doctors will pass their assessment of brain damage to Attorney General Meni Mazuz. "They will inform us the moment they wake him up from the sedation and they will know what systems were damaged and what his situation is," said Justice Ministry spokesman Jacob Galanti

If doctors determine that Sharon is permanently incapacitated, the Cabinet would immediately meet to choose a new prime minister from the five sitting Cabinet ministers from Sharon's Kadima Party who are also lawmakers.

Olmert is seen as Sharon's potential heir.

Doctors had planned to start pulling Sharon from the coma Sunday, but decided to wait another day after performing the new scan.

The scan Sunday showed Sharon's brain swelling had gone down, his intracranial and blood pressure were within normal range, and his cerebral spinal fluid was draining well, Mor-Yosef said.

"In light of all these factors, the panel of experts decided to start the process of taking him out of the sedation tomorrow morning," he said. "This all depends of course on whether the prime minister makes it until tomorrow morning without any significant incidents."

One of Sharon's surgeons, Dr. Jose Cohen, said that while Sharon's chances of survival were high, his ability to think and reason would be impaired.

"He will not continue to be prime minister, but maybe he will be able to understand and to speak," the Argentina-born Cohen said in comments published Sunday by The Jerusalem Post.

Outside experts were even less optimistic.

"There is zero expectation on my part that he will have the capacity to perform in any kind of formal way," said Dr. Keith Siller, Medical Director at the NYU Comprehensive Stroke Care Center.

"We are basically hoping he survives and that he has some kind of ability to get some rehab so he can have some useful function again. But we are talking about the basics, we are talking very basic things. The complexity of this man, and what he did for a living, this is not to even be considered now. This is absolutely unrealistic at this time."

Israel's Cabinet met for its weekly gathering Sunday for the first time since Sharon's stroke.

Olmert sat next to Sharon's empty chair, the prime minister's untouched gavel rested in the middle of the table.

Olmert told the ministers that Sharon would want everyone to get back to work on the country's pressing security, social and economic issues.

"This we will continue to do," he said. "We will continue also to carry out the wishes of Sharon, to manage affairs as necessary."

The Cabinet meeting was Olmert's first formal opportunity to persuade Israelis and the world that the nation's affairs were in good hands and that he would work to carry out Sharon's political program.

Speaking to reporters later, Olmert expressed hope Sharon would get better. "I pray with all the people of Israel that my tenure as acting prime minister will be short, so soon enough we will be able to see again the leader of Israel," he said.

Before his collapse, Sharon appeared headed to a landslide victory in March 28 elections as head of his new centrist Kadima Party, formed in the wake of his withdrawal from Gaza this summer. Sharon was expected in a third term to try to draw Israel's permanent boundaries, evacuating small West Bank settlements while strengthening Israel's hold over larger ones.

But it is unclear whether Olmert or any other successor would have the popularity or charisma to carry out such a plan.

Sharon had been reluctant to resume long-stalled peace talks, saying the Palestinians were not a trustworthy partner.

In the West Bank, Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia wished Sharon a quick recovery and expressed hope for new peace talks. "We are looking for a new era in which we can negotiate and be partners in a real peace that serves both peoples," he told his Cabinet.

Sharon, who experienced a mild stroke on Dec. 18, felt weak Wednesday and was rushed to Hadassah from his ranch in southern Israel when a blood vessel on the right side of his brain burst, causing massive cerebral hemorrhaging.

Doctors plan to bring Sharon out of Coma (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060108/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_sharon;_ylt=AjFe2QWxSmuMv.T66zCbQe8UewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-)


Title: Iran to remove U.N. seals at atomic research sites
Post by: Shammu on January 08, 2006, 04:19:38 PM
Iran to remove U.N. seals at atomic research sites
Sun Jan 8, 2006 3:42 AM ET9

 By Parisa Hafezi

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran said on Sunday it was preparing to remove U.N. seals at some nuclear research and development sites, despite strong Western opposition to its decision to resume atomic research halted over two years ago.

It would be the second time in five months that Iran, which insists its nuclear programme is peaceful, removed some seals put in place by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

European Union and U.S. officials have said the move, which follows Iran's resumption of uranium processing at its Isfahan plant in August, will jeopardize efforts to find a diplomatic solution to Iran's atomic ambitions and could accelerate calls for its case to be sent to the U.N. Security Council.

"We will remove the seals and we have announced that we are ready to start research from tomorrow," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told a weekly news conference.

"It depends on the IAEA to announce its readiness as this will take place under the agency's supervision," he added.

A resumption of atomic research and development would mean that all of Iran's nuclear programme, much of which was put on hold as part of negotiations with the EU that started in late 2003, was active once again apart from the actual enrichment of uranium at its unfinished Natanz facility.

Uranium enrichment is the most sensitive part of the nuclear fuel cycle since it can be used to produce bomb-grade material as well as nuclear reactor fuel.

Iran has not publicly disclosed what activities it plans to resume on Monday. Diplomats and analysts say atomic research and development could involve some laboratory tests of uranium enrichment and the assembly of enrichment centrifuges.

"R&D activities will be under the IAEA's supervision and there is nothing to be worried about," Asefi said.

IAEA IN THE DARK

IAEA officials say an Iranian team failed to show up for talks in Vienna last week to explain what activities Iran planned to resume.

Asked why the Iranian team flew back from Vienna without meeting the IAEA, Javad Vaeedi, deputy head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, told state television on Saturday:

"Holding any meeting has to be based on the attainment of an aim and a result. The cancellation of the meeting in fact took place in this light."

Iran said on Saturday that an IAEA team had arrived in Tehran to supervise the resumption of research work. But an IAEA spokeswoman said the IAEA team were on a "routine visit" and that the agency was still awaiting clarifications from Iran.

Washington and the EU want Iran to agree to a proposal, put forward by Moscow, that Iran transfer all its uranium enrichment activities to a joint venture in Russia.

Russian and Iranian officials met in Tehran over the weekend to discuss the plan but Iran has made it clear it will only consider ideas that allow it to enrich on its own soil.

"We have a positive view regarding these talks, as do the Russians," Asefi said. "These talks can discuss different plans but the main issue is respecting and accepting Iran's legitimate rights."

Vaeedi warned that it would not be in the West's interest to refer Iran's case to the U.N. Security Council, where sanctions could be imposed on Tehran.

He noted that Iran's parliament approved a bill late last year whereby, should Iran's case be sent to the Security Council, Tehran would resume enrichment and scale back cooperation with IAEA inspectors.
Iran to remove UN seals at atomic research sites (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-08T084202Z_01_WRI768733_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 08, 2006, 05:05:11 PM
Police raid headquarters
of Israel-secession group
Hundreds of cops sweep into settlement ahead of call to create own sovereignty
Posted: January 8, 2006
3:45 p.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – A Jewish group's headquarters were raided today by hundreds of security officials just days before the movement, led by residents of Judea and Samaria, was to present a plan calling for Jews of the area to secede from Israel and create their own autonomous Jewish entity.

The massive police raid came after a WorldNetDaily article this weekend broke the story regarding the Judea Initiative, which is seeking to gather signatures from Judea and Samaria's nearly 200,000 Jews for a manifesto declaring the creation of a sovereign Jewish authority that would govern itself independently according to Jewish law and would provide its own security.

Security officials involved in today's raid say the WND article was "read very closely."

At the order of the Israeli Defense Forces, a joint taskforce consisting of 200-300 officers from the Israeli Police Authority and Shin Bet security services swooped down on the Kfar Tapuach settlement in northern Samaria and raided the offices of the initiative's leader, northern Samaria resident Yekutel Ben Yaacov. Computers and documents were confiscated and a kennel started by Ben Yaacov several years ago to train dogs to protect area settlements was closed down.

Simultaneously, Jerusalem police and Shin Bet agents raided a Jerusalem Internet café and a nearby apartment owned by Ben Yaacov. Four computers and stacks of documents were confiscated and four café employees were taken in for questioning.

Ben Yaacov was not arrested in the raid.

On Wednesday, Ben Yaacov is set to deliver his Initiative at a conference in Jerusalem's Old City. The plan aims to create the new Jewish authority in any part of Judea and Samaria, even a small settlement, in hopes of eventually ruling the entire territory, Ben Yaacov said.

Judea and Samaria are referred to by some as the West Bank, the name coined for the area by Jordan after it annexed the territories in 1948.

Ben Yaacov's group, the Jewish Legion, was founded in 2001 to foster self-protection for Judea and Samaria communities plagued by terror attacks. His Judea Initiative is a new movement of the Legion not yet officially made public.

"We have been around for four years. Suddenly, they raid my offices three days before the conference to announce our initiative? The authorities are hysterical. They want to stop this initiative, but now they have succeeded in giving it a lot of publicity, so the conference, which doesn't violate any law, will go on and probably draw even bigger crowds," Ben Yaacov told WND.

Mikey Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli Police Authority, had no comment about whether the raid was in response to the initiative conference.

A high-level source close to the raid told WND, "The raid was in the works for several weeks. It is the result of the movement's activities and planned activities."

The source said WND's article breaking the story about Ben Yaacov's plans to call for Jews to secede from Israel "was read very carefully and with interest."

Ben Yaacov told WND in the article his initiative was prompted by talks of Israeli withdrawals from Judea and Samaria.

"We can't sit around and wait until Israel sends the bulldozers to take down Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria before attempting to counter the next Israeli withdrawal. We are acting now so we can retain our rightful biblical heritage," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon withdrew Israel's Jewish communities from the Gaza Strip last summer in spite of fierce opposition from members of his own Likud party. He recently announced he was leaving Likud to start his own "centrist" party, Kadima, prompting new elections currently scheduled for March. Since then, multiple Kadima members have told reporters the new party is looking to change Israel's borders with possible withdrawals from Judea and Samaria. There have been talks of disengagements from parts of Jerusalem as well.

It's unclear as yet how Sharon's massive stroke this week and his inability to govern will affect the future politics of Israel.

Currently, Judea and Samaria, inhabited by about 2.4 million Palestinians, is considered landlocked territory not officially recognized as part of any country. Israel calls the land "disputed." The United Nations claims Judea and Samaria is "occupied" by Israel, which maintains overall control of most of the area while the Palestinian Authority has jurisdiction in about 40 percent.

Judea and Samaria remained under Jordanian rule from 1948 until Israel captured the territory in 1967 after Jordan's King Hussein ignored Israeli pleas for his country to stay out of the Six Day War. Most countries rejected Jordan's initial claim on the area, which it formally renounced in 1988.

Ben Yaacov says his Judea Initiative takes advantage of Judea and Samaria's murky legal status to argue for independent Jewish sovereignty.

"Legally it's a no-man's land. The Palestinians used that status to create their own authority, so there is absolutely no reason the Jews can't do the same thing. The area is the site of a lot of the Bible and has had a Jewish population for centuries. We will not allow the Israeli government to kick us out."

Many villages in the Judea and Samaria area, which Israelis commonly reefer to as the "biblical heartland," are mentioned throughout the Old Testament.

The Book of Genesis says Abraham entered Israel at Shechem (Nablus) and received God's promise of land for his offspring.

The nearby town of Beit El, anciently called Bethel meaning "house of God," is where Scripture says patriarch Jacob slept on a stone pillow and dreamed of angels ascending and descending a stairway to heaven. In that dream, God spoke directly to Jacob and reaffirmed the promise of territory.

And in Exodus, the holy tabernacle rested in Shilo, which is believed to be the first area the ancient Israelites settled after fleeing Egypt.

Ben Yaacov said his new Jewish authority would be "governed by Jewish law. Non-Jews, including Palestinians, are more than welcome to live there as long as they accept Jewish sovereign and agree to abide by the Seven Noahide laws, the most basic of biblical dictates."

He said the annexed territory would provide for its own security.

"A large contingent of Judea and Samaria residents served in the Israeli army. They currently defend their own settlements to a large extent. We would base ours on the same concept as Israeli security. Immediately after Israel was founded, it was attacked on all sides and it won every war because of the help of God and because of the same people we have with us."

The initiative states there are three primary reasons to form a Jewish authority in Judea and Samaria:

# "The new Jewish authority will protect Israel from terror and enhance Israeli security. It is more advantageous to have Jewish autonomy in Judea and Samaria in place of complete Palestinian autonomy, which will give the Palestinian terrorist groups more land from which to fire Qassams and launch attacks. The Jews who remain in the area will be accepting a certain level of self-sacrifice by putting themselves in harms way."

# "The creation of a Jewish authority will relieve tension and prevent bloodshed between Jew and fellow Jew by halting an Israeli withdrawal from Judea and Samaria. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews in the area, some of whom may use violent resistance in the face of any withdrawal. It will also alleviate some of the tension and rifts that would be created in Israeli society by any withdrawal."

# "The new Jewish authority will offer appropriate self-determination to fulfil the national aspirations of many religious Jews in Israel. The area will be ruled by Torah law as opposed to the current anti-religious government."

Ben Yaacov's Judea Initiative is not the first major push for Jews to secede from Israel. In 1989, the late author and Knesset member Rabbi Meir Kahane, a mentor of Ben Yaacov, attempted to found the State of Judea, a Jewish state in Judea and Samaria. That effort eventually fell through.

"Ours is different in that we are starting small," explained Ben Yaacov. "We are not talking about our own state, just an entity or authority, however small or large it will be."

Reacting to the news of calls for Jews to create their own authority, chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told WorldNetDaily, "This is the chaos and lawlessness [the Palestinian Authority] has warned about. If the Israeli government does not get its act together concerning the settlers, who by the way are armed to the teeth and acting like a parallel authority, the price will be paid in Palestinian blood."

Israeli government spokesmen Raanan Gissin and David Baker refused to comment on the issue.

Said Ben Yaacov, "There may be resistance at first, but eventually people will come to understand a lot of Jews in Judea and Samaria will not go along with any further withdrawals. Now those Jews will have a solution."



Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 09, 2006, 10:16:37 AM
Rockets against Israel "ordered by Bin Laden": Iraqi Al-Qaeda chief
Jan 09 12:16 AM US/Eastern
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Al-Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said in an audio tape put onto the Internet that rockets had been fired at Israel from Lebanon last month "on the instructions" of the network's overall chief Osama bin Laden.

"The rocket firing at the ancestors of monkeys and pigs from the south of Lebanon was only the start of a blessed in-depth strike against the Zionist enemy (...). All that was on the instructions of the sheikh of the mujahedeen, Osama bin laden, may God preserve him," said the voice attributed to the Jordanian extremist.

The tape was placed on the site normally used by his group, the Organization of Al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, which had claimed responsibility for the rockets in an on-line statement on December 29.

"This commendable feat came in application by the mujahedeen of the oath by fighter sheikh Osama bin Laden, emir of the Al-Qaeda network, may God preserve him," added the recording referring to repeated statements by Bin Laden that the Israelis should not enjoy security as long as Muslims were not safe.

Israel the previous day had carried out an air strike against a base of a Syrian-backed Palestinian group on the southern outskirts of Beirut in retaliation for cross-border Katyusha rocket attacks on northern Israel.

Zarqawi also said the guerrillas had carried out nearly 800 operations against "the crusader forces" since the occupation of Iraq, putting "crusader" casualties at around 40,000 soldiers.

"Since the start of mujahedeen operations after the fall of the Baathist regime and until today, nearly 800 martyr operations aimed at crusader targets and military convoys have been carried out (...). We estimate casualties among the adorers of the Cross in Iraq at no less than 40,000 soldiers," he declared.

"That's why they (the Americans) asked for help from the Arab League, represented by its secretary-general Amr Mussa, and called for the Cairo meeting," said Zarqawi, hitting out at member countries that took part in the November meeting dedicated to Iraq under Arab League auspices.

The Iraqi leaders who participated in the Cairo meeting agreed on a "road map" for national conciliation, calling for a calendar for withdrawal of foreign forces and the release of detainees who had not been charged.

Zarqawi hit out at the Sunni Muslim Iraqi Islamic Party for having taken part in the December 15 general elections, and called on it to renounce such actions.

"We call on the Islamic Party to abandon the road to perdition on which it has embarked and which threatened to cause the loss of the Sunni community," Zarqawi said, adding that the party "should have called the people to jihad (holy war)."

The Iraqi Al-Qaeda leader then laid down two conditions for giving up the jihad.

"First, chase out the invaders from our territory in Palestine, in Iraq and everywhere in Islamic land.

"Second, instal sharia (Islamic law) on the entire Earth and spread Islamic justice there (...). The attacks will not cease until after the victory of Islam and the setting up of sharia," he swore.

Zarqawi concluded: "O young Muslims everywhere in the world, and in particular in the neighbouring countries (of Iraq) and in Yemen, I recommend jihad to you (...). O nation of Islam, America is today drawing its last breath."

Rockets against Israel "ordered by Bin Laden": Iraqi Al-Qaeda chief (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/09/060109051601.0pm2jjra.html)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 09, 2006, 10:42:18 AM
Naturally they want Israel involved. It is something that they all have in common .... hatred toward Israelis. By doing so he will be gaining more support from all the other muslim fanctions.



Title: Israeli Leader Sharon Moves Hand, Leg
Post by: Shammu on January 09, 2006, 12:59:48 PM
Israeli Leader Sharon Moves Hand, Leg

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

JERUSALEM - Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon resumed breathing on his own Monday and moved his right hand and leg in response to stimulation as doctors started weaning him off the sedatives keeping him in a coma.


Sharon's chief neurosurgeon, Dr. Felix Umansky, said the leader's response to pain stimulation was a "very important" sign, but it was too early to assess Sharon's ability to think and reason after suffering a massive stroke Wednesday. It will take days to wean the 77-year-old premier off sedatives.

By Monday afternoon, Sharon had begun breathing on his own, though he was still on a respirator to assist him, said Dr. Shlomo Mor-Yosef, director of Hadassah Hospital, where Sharon is being treated.

Doctors said they applied pressure to a part of Sharon's body that usually causes pain. Sharon's blood pressure rose during the stimulation — a positive sign — and he lifted his right hand and right leg slightly.

"It was a slight, but significant, movement," Mor-Yosef said.

It would be more significant if Sharon moved his left hand, since that is controlled by the right side of the brain, where Sharon's stroke occurred.

Sharon remained in critical condition.

Doctors hope Sharon will have a greater response to pain stimulation, including opening his eyes, as the sedatives are decreased, Umansky said.

It is too early to say how the massive bleeding in the right side of Sharon's brain will affect his cognitive abilities or the left side of his body.

"The moment that the prime minister is able to talk to us and to sit up one can say there will no longer be danger to his life," he said. "Once he is conscious and with us and all his systems are functioning and there are no complications, such as an infection or something else, I will be ready to say he's out of danger."

The doctors could put Sharon back in a coma if his condition worsens, he said.

One of Sharon's neurosurgeons said it was unlikely he could function as prime minister again.

Experts said the prime minister suffered most of the damage to the right side of his brain, so he has a greater chance of regaining his speech and comprehension, which are controlled by the left side.

After the sedatives, doctors will pass their assessment of brain damage to Attorney General Meni Mazuz, who then will decide whether to declare the prime minister permanently incapacitated.

"The minute we know what damage has occurred, we will talk," Justice Ministry spokesman Yaakov Galanti said.

Since an acting prime minister is in place, there is no urgency to such a declaration, Galanti added. Ehud Olmert, Sharon's deputy, was named acting prime minister after Sharon's second stroke and can serve in that role for 100 days.

In the event the attorney general declares permanent incapacitation, the Cabinet would elect a new prime minister within 24 hours, choosing from the five Cabinet ministers from Sharon's Kadima Party who also are lawmakers, Galanti said.

That group includes Olmert.

Sharon, who suffered a mild stroke Dec. 18, felt weak Wednesday and was rushed to Hadassah from his ranch in southern Israel when a blood vessel on the right side of his brain burst, causing massive cerebral hemorrhaging. The stroke occurred the night before he was scheduled to undergo a procedure to close a hole in his heart that contributed to the earlier stroke.

He has undergone two surgeries to stop the bleeding in his brain and relieve the pressure inside his skull.

Sharon, Israel's most popular politician, was seen by many here as the best hope for resolving the Israel-Palestinian conflict. His abrupt illness and expected departure from the Mideast political stage has raised concern that momentum on territorial concessions, created by his recent Gaza Strip withdrawal, would be stopped, and that Sharon's successor would not have the stature to forge ahead on drawing Israel's final borders.

Before his collapse, Sharon appeared headed to a landslide victory in March 28 elections at the head of the Kadima Party, which seeks further pullbacks while strengthening Israel's hold over major settlement blocs.

Olmert told the Cabinet on Sunday he would work to carry on Sharon's political legacy.

Sharon's condition and the uncertainty it has generated has unsettled Israelis. At the hospital entrance Monday, three Jerusalemites hung up a white sheet with blue lettering in English and Hebrew that read, "Ariel Sharon, there is more to do, please wake up."

In the Gaza Strip, where Sharon is reviled for his tough policies on Palestinians, 40 masked gunmen from the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militant group held a demonstration against Sharon. One held a gun to a photo of Sharon that was labeled "the killer of children" and then burned the picture.

Doctors not involved in Sharon's care said that if he awakens, the extent of his responses could vary widely from slight movements to a much fuller awakening. They also have cautioned that there is no guarantee Sharon will awaken from the anesthesia.

That Sharon can breathe on his own "tells us that one part of his brain is functioning, the respiratory center," said Dr. John Martin, a professor of cardiovascular medicine at University College in London. "It doesn't tell us how he is thinking, it doesn't tell us how he can speak, it doesn't tell us how he can move his arms and legs.

"His chances of survival are better than if the respiratory center had been damaged, but that still doesn't mean he's going to survive. ... It is still highly probable that he will die," Martin added, noting that Sharon's weight and age work against him.

One of Sharon's surgeons, Dr. Jose Cohen, has said that while Sharon's chances of survival were high, his ability to think and reason would be impaired.

"He will not continue to be prime minister, but maybe he will be able to understand and to speak," the Argentina-born Cohen said in comments published Sunday by The Jerusalem Post.

Israeli Leader Sharon Moves Hand, Leg (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/israel_sharon;_ylt=AlhH1umJdRnaUTW9pck1FdGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)


Title: New nanotech armor called 5 times stronger than steel
Post by: Shammu on January 09, 2006, 11:51:47 PM
New nanotech armor called 5 times stronger than steel

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Monday, January 9, 2006

TEL AVIV — An Israeli firm has developed armor based on nanotechnology.

ApNano has tested armor said to be five times stronger than steel and twice as strong as any impact-resistant material used in protective gear.

Last year, a sample of the ApNano material was subjected to tests in which a steel projectile traveling at a speed of up to 1.5 kilometers per second slammed into the material.

Executives said the impact was the equivalent to dropping four diesel locomotives onto an area the size of a human fingernail.

They said the nano-based armor, which stemmed from a new carbon form called Inorganic Fullerenes, withstood the impact.

The company's chief executive officer, Menachem Genut, said the company would launch initial production within the next six months. Genut said this would mean the production of between 100 and 200 kilograms of the nano-material per day.

By 2007, Genut said, ApNano, based in Nes Ziona, Israel, would begin full-scale production of the armor. This would mean the production of several tons per day.

The company began development of the nano-material in 2004.

Genut said the nano-material would require additional field testing before it was ready for the market. He said the first product could be ready by 2009.

New nanotech armor called 5 times stronger then steel (http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453745.144444444.html)


Title: Abbas says U.S. assures him Jerusalem vote to proceed
Post by: Shammu on January 09, 2006, 11:54:50 PM
Abbas says U.S. assures him Jerusalem vote to proceed
Mon Jan 9, 2006 2:54 PM ET173

 By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on Monday the United States had assured him that voting in the January 25 legislative poll would be allowed in East Jerusalem, despite Israel's objection to Hamas participating.

"Today I received American assurances that the campaigning and the elections will take place in Jerusalem," he told reporters in Gaza, without elaborating.

"Upon these assurances, I say that the election will continue and it will be held on time."

Earlier this month Abbas raised the possibility the election could be delayed if Israel barred voting in Arab East Jerusalem.

There was no immediate comment from the Bush administration, which could put considerable pressure on Israel to back down from a threat to ban voting in the city.

Abbas made the comments after Israel's internal security minister, Gideon Ezra, said Israel was allowing candidates in the Palestinian election to campaign in East Jerusalem as long as they did not belong to militant groups.

But Ezra said Israel had not yet decided on whether voting will be allowed in East Jerusalem, a core demand by Palestinians who want it as capital of a future state.

"I absolutely reject that Jerusalem is excluded from the election campaign and the elections," Abbas said.

He said he had also asked the United States to put pressure on Israel to remove checkpoints in Palestinian areas and release Palestinian prisoners. "The Americans have not come with answers for that," Abbas said.

Israel captured East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war and annexed it in a move not recognized abroad.

Police barred Palestinian candidates from electioneering in the city when campaigning began last week, drawing a call by the United States, patron of a peace "road map", for Israel to allow Jerusalem Palestinians access to the parliamentary ballot.

PERMITS

Ezra told Israel Radio that, under new orders, police would approve electioneering by "all those who favor pursuing the peace process and the road map" -- if they apply in advance.

"Hamas candidates, for example, will not receive permits," Ezra said, referring to an Islamic militant group spearheading a 5-year-old Palestinian uprising.

The decision drew protests from Abbas' Fatah faction, which is fending off an electoral challenge from Hamas but fears charges of Israeli intercession.

"In order to have a free and fair election, either there is campaigning for all candidates, including Hamas, or there will be no campaigning," said Hatem Abdel-Qader of Fatah.

Hamas vowed to defy the Israeli ban. "We will carry out our electioneering campaign whether the occupation agrees or not. We have the ways and means to do so despite the Israeli decision," Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said.

Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat said the United States was "playing a major role" to try to persuade Israel to enable Palestinians to cast ballots in East Jerusalem.

Hamas boycotted the last Palestinian legislative election, in 1996, when voting was allowed in East Jerusalem. But Israel says interim accords do not guarantee Palestinian political rights in Jerusalem. Palestinians dispute this.

Western countries are keen for the vote to take place as scheduled as a way of strengthening Palestinian democracy. But they are wary of a strong showing by Hamas, which has carried out nearly 60 suicide bombings during the uprising.

Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem have Israeli identity cards but many see themselves as citizens of a future Palestinian state.

Abbas says US assures him Jerusalem vote to proceed (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-09T195408Z_01_ARM922079_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-JERUSALEM.xml&archived=False)


Title: Re:Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 01:34:35 AM
Ezek. 38 & 39 make reference to the invasion of Israel by "Gog".  Much has been said here, and other places, about the correlation between Gog and Russia, based primarily on references to Gog coming out of the north, but occasionally because of the word "rosh" in the Hebrew. Considering also the recent events involving Iran, I think it good to look at a couple of things.

The people referred to as those of the land of Magog were the ancient Sycthians. In the time of Ezekiel they lived in an area which was north of Israel, between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea with the Caucasus Mountain Range as their southern border. Gog of Magog is the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Both Meshech and Tubal, along with Magog are listed in Gen. 10:2 as sons of Japheth, a son of Noah. The ark landed on Mount Ararat in the Caucasus Mountains. These three grandsons of Noah settled north on the mountains in the southeastern region of the former Soviet Union. The basic area now known as eastern Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and only incidentally includes a very minor portion at the far southern reaches of Russia.

Gog's forces will be augmented by other armies, among them Persia, Cush, and Put . Coming against Israel from the east will be Persia. Persia changed it's name in 1935. It is now known as Iran. Cush and Put will attack Israel from the south. Cush is located to the south of Egypt and is today the eastern part of the Sudan and Ethiopia. Put is to the west of Egypt in the region of Libya (Ezek 38:5). Both are descendants of Noah through Ham (Gen. 10:6). Also allied with Gog in his invasion will be Gomer and Togarmah. These Japhethite grandsons of Noah settled in Asia Minor;Gomer in Germany and central Turkey, and Togarmah in eastern Turkey and Armenia.

It  is highly unlikely that Russia itself is Magog (Gog), but is instead a collection of countries that today are predominately Islamic, which would have a great deal to do with their spiritual attitude towards Israel. OTOH, Russia is predominately secular/Orthodox.
Because of the situation, right now in Iran. I am bumping Evangelist post. Today it makes more sense, then it do when Evangelist posted .


Title: Diskin: More weapons smuggled into Gaza Strip since pullout
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 10:49:08 AM
Last update - 14:54 10/01/2006            
Diskin: More weapons smuggled into Gaza Strip since pullout
By Haaretz Service

The amount of weapons and explosives smuggled into the Gaza Strip has significantly increased since the disengagement from the Gaza Strip, Shin Bet Chief Yuval Diskin said during a Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee meeting Tuesday.

Diskin said that every month some 2,000 rifles are smuggled into the Gaza Strip, four times the amount smuggled prior to the Gaza pullout.

Committee chairman MK Yuval Steinitz (Likud) said Tuesday that the Egyptians were not making any effort to thwart the smuggling, and there was an impression that the Palestinian armament was intended for an attack on Israel.

More weapons (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/668581.html)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: twobombs on January 10, 2006, 01:03:29 PM
I see that you guys are enjoying the 2006-ride so far ehy ?
Hold on to your hat; the main characters just got seated in the carts, it isn't even moving yet !

I believe another word will be learned before the end of this year; megadeath.
And no; it's not the rockband


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 10, 2006, 01:11:23 PM
I see that you guys are enjoying the 2006-ride so far ehy ?
Hold on to your hat; the main characters just got seated in the carts, it isn't even moving yet !

I believe another word will be learned before the end of this year; megadeath.
And no; it's not the rockband

I personally won't venture into making predictions about this year but I do believe the cart has just started rolling but hasn't reached the downhill incline yet. When it does things will start moving really, really fast.



Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: airIam2worship on January 10, 2006, 01:19:05 PM
I see that you guys are enjoying the 2006-ride so far ehy ?
Hold on to your hat; the main characters just got seated in the carts, it isn't even moving yet !

I believe another word will be learned before the end of this year; megadeath.
And no; it's not the rockband

I personally won't venture into making predictions about this year but I do believe the cart has just started rolling but hasn't reached the downhill incline yet. When it does things will start moving really, really fast.


My heart just started aching for those that are still lost, and those that have backslidden. I tink it's time for us to pray more, longer, and harder for all of them. I ache so much for them, sometimes I just want to cry.


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 01:27:59 PM
I see that you guys are enjoying the 2006-ride so far ehy ?
Hold on to your hat; the main characters just got seated in the carts, it isn't even moving yet !

I believe another word will be learned before the end of this year; megadeath.
And no; it's not the rockband
Sounds like a band. ;) I think this rollercoaster, will be picking up steam, this year. But I will not make any  predictions. Though my Prophecymeter, is hitting the close to top, of the scale. :o


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 01:29:22 PM
I see that you guys are enjoying the 2006-ride so far ehy ?
Hold on to your hat; the main characters just got seated in the carts, it isn't even moving yet !

I believe another word will be learned before the end of this year; megadeath.
And no; it's not the rockband

I personally won't venture into making predictions about this year but I do believe the cart has just started rolling but hasn't reached the downhill incline yet. When it does things will start moving really, really fast.


My heart just started aching for those that are still lost, and those that have backslidden. I tink it's time for us to pray more, longer, and harder for all of them. I ache so much for them, sometimes I just want to cry.
My heart also goes out for, these people as well.


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on January 10, 2006, 01:32:33 PM
I have a few predictions....oh wait a minute....I never talk about politics and religion...never mind  ;D



Quote
My heart just started aching for those that are still lost, and those that have backslidden. I tink it's time for us to pray more, longer, and harder for all of them. I ache so much for them, sometimes I just want to cry.

Amen to that brother!


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 01:35:38 PM
I have a few predictions....oh wait a minute....I never talk about politics and religion...never mind  ;D
There I fixed it for you 2T. ;D


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on January 10, 2006, 01:48:10 PM
LOL   ;)   Nice try!   :D


Title: Islam to 'rule the world'
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 10, 2006, 03:23:50 PM
The roller coaster is in motion.

_______________________________


Iran leader: Islam
to 'rule the world'
Urges Muslims to get ready
for coming of 'messiah'
Posted: January 10, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Islam must prepare to rule the world, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a crowd of theological students in Iran's holy city of Qom, according to a report.

"We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It's a universal ideology that leads the world to justice," Ahmadinejad said Jan. 5, according to Mehran Riazaty, a former Iran analyst for the Central Command of the Coalition Forces in Baghdad.

Ahmadinejad, who has drawn global attention recently for his contention the Holocaust was a "myth," said: "We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world."

Riazaty, in a post on the website Regime Change Iran, said the Iranian president emphasized his current theme that the return of the Shiite messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away, and Muslims must prepare for it.

According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.

"We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return," Ahmadinejad said. "If we work on the basis of the Expectation of the Return [of the Mahdi], all the affairs of our nation will be streamlined and the administration of the country will become easier."

Riazaty pointed out that Iran's speaker of parliament, Mehdi Kahrubi, said Saturday that some people working closely with Ahmadinejad believe the Mahdi probably will return in the next two years, which means Iran needs to start building more hotels.



Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 10:07:12 PM
I have strapped in for the ride Pastor. Just keep this ride pointing up. That way, I don't get a kink in my neck.


Title: New 'Arafat' rocket to target major Israeli cities
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 10:58:27 PM
New 'Arafat' rocket to target major Israeli cities
Late PLO leader 'continuing to hit them even after his death'
Posted: January 10, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Palestinian terror groups have a new rocket named after late PLO leader Yasser Arafat that is capable of reaching Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, a senior terror leader involved in rocket-making told WorldNetDaily, warning his group's missiles will be launched regularly from Judea and Samaria into major Israeli cities.

"Our new rocket, called Arafat 1, will prove to the Israelis that Arafat's spirit is still alive and that he is continuing to fight them and hit them even after his disappearing," said Abu Oudai, a leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades responsible for coordinating the group's rocket network in Judea and Samaria.

Judea and Samaria are referred to by some as the West Bank, the name coined for the area by Jordan after it annexed the territories in 1948.

The Al Aqsa Brigades was founded in 2000 as the military wing of Arafat's Fatah party and has carried out scores of suicide bombings, shootings and rocket attacks from Gaza.

Palestinian terror groups have launched hundreds of Qassam rockets from Gaza into nearby Jewish communities the past few years but largely have refrained from firing rockets in Judea and Samaria, which are within range of Israel's major cities. Also roughly 200,000 Jews live within Judea and Samaria.

Qassams are improvised rockets that can travel approximately three miles. Some have traveled further. Israeli officials repeatedly have warned a rocket attack from Judea and Samaria would be met with a large-scale military response.

Israel last week announced a rocket was fired from northern Samaria, claiming it was the first-ever launching from the area. It said the weapon was a Jenin-1, a less advanced rocket that can travel about one mile. Israeli Defense Forces military censors had delayed publication of the incident for three weeks. The IDF did not carry out a large-scale retaliatory raid in response to the rocket firing.

Oudai told WND his group already has fired six rockets – not one – from northern Samaria.

"[The rocket in the news last week] was not the first time we shot rockets from Jenin to the settlements of the enemy inside the green line. It is the enemy who for the first time has admitted that these rockets exist in [Judea and Samaria] and that they were shot against Israeli targets. We have launched six times and with the help of Allah we will launch these rockets regularly and there will no calm, no cease fire until the occupation leaves our land."

Israeli security officials confirmed to WND at least three rockets so far have been launched from northern Samaria.

Oudai said his group's new Arafat-1 rocket is stockpiled in Judea and Samaria for future use and is the most advanced Palestinian rocket yet, warning it can hit Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

"The Arafat can reach every goal we want all over the enemy state. ... I don't need to tell you that the aerial distance from Jenin to Netania, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and other cities is not big without telling what are all our plans concerning hitting Israeli settlements [in Judea and Samaria]. We can reach any point inside Israel, but I will not mention what are the regions we are ready to shoot from."

Israel has warned terrorists are attempting to transfer rockets from Gaza to Judea and Samaria. It has arrested several Palestinians attempting to infiltrate northern Samaria with rockets, sparking fears the rockets will become the new strategic weapon for Palestinian terror groups, frustrated over their admitted difficulty in carrying out suicide bombings due to Israel's uncompleted security fence.

The IDF has not been able to stop the rockets regularly fired from Gaza into nearby Israeli Negev towns. It previously responded with surgical missile strikes and artillery fire at areas it says are used to launch rockets. Last month, Israel set up a buffer zone in sections of Gaza occasionally used to fire rockets into Israel, but the Palestinian terrorists shifted their launching sites to other areas and have continued the attacks.

Asked if he fears Israel's threatened massive military response to his planned rocket firings, Oudai told WND, "Israel already has used all its tools. Tanks, aircrafts, assassinations and everything it could use. But we are still here and still fighting. We do not get excited from the Israeli threats. What can be this unprecedented reaction? They have already tried everything."

New Arafat missle (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48267)


Title: Iran, Defiant, Insists It Plans to Restart Nuclear Program
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 10:59:57 PM
January 10, 2006
Iran, Defiant, Insists It Plans to Restart Nuclear Program
By ELAINE SCIOLINO

PARIS, Jan. 9 - Defying its European partners and the United States, Iran plans to reopen its vast uranium enrichment complex to resume nuclear activities that it suspended 14 months ago, officials involved in negotiations with Iran said Monday.

Iran told the United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency last week that it was planning to restart nuclear research and development, without specifying what type of activities it would resume, or where.

But in messages and letters to the agency in recent days, Iran said it planned to reopen the enrichment complex, in Natanz in central Iran, and perhaps an unspecified number of other sites, said the officials, who declined to be identified by name because they lack authorization to discuss the matter for attribution.

The Iranian move came in defiance of unusual separate messages delivered to the Tehran government over the weekend by Russia and China, as well as the United States, Britain and France. The messages warned Iran not to embark on further uranium activities.

Britain, France and the United States tried to have the five countries submit one joint declaration to Iran, but China, not wanting such a move to look like an attempt to gang up on Tehran, insisted that five separate messages be delivered. All said much the same thing.

European and American diplomats said enlisting China and Russia amounted to a further ratcheting up of pressure on Iran, because the five countries possess nuclear weapons and are permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. The United States wants the Council to impose sanctions on Iran if it does not abandon its suspected nuclear ambitions.

The stated plan by Iran to reopen its uranium enrichment plant reflects a high-stakes gamble by Iran to test its legal right to conduct certain nuclear activities under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty of 1968, the main treaty governing the spread of nuclear technology.

The United States, and to an increasing extent European governments, say they believe that Natanz is part of a long-suspected nuclear weapons program that they contend is more advanced than the Iraqi program was at its height under Saddam Hussein's rule.

The operations at the Natanz site were kept secret from the atomic energy agency and were not confirmed by its inspectors until February 2003. The inspectors found preparations for the construction of more than 50,000 centrifuges - tall, thin machines that spin at supersonic speed to enrich uranium so that it can be used in nuclear reactors.

When uranium is enriched to a very high degree, it can be used in a nuclear weapon. The fast-spinning centrifuges could make fuel for up to 20 nuclear weapons a year, according to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

For Iran's clerical leadership and even much of its population, Natanz is synonymous with modernity and power.

Iran insists that its goal at Natanz is to conduct research and produce fuel for a civilian nuclear power program. Some of Iran's most experienced nuclear scientists used to work there, and Iran described the closing of the complex - under an agreement with France, Britain and Germany in November 2004 to freeze most of its nuclear activities - as voluntary and temporary.

In Tehran, Gholam Hossein Elham, a government spokesman, said Monday at a news conference that Iran would resume nuclear research and development, as announced last week to the International Atomic Energy Agency. "Iran will today resume nuclear fuel research as scheduled," he said, without giving any details.

Agency officials in Vienna and their inspectors in Iran struggled without success throughout the day to wring information from the government about its plans, as Tehran had asked that the activities be carried out under the watchful eyes of the inspectors.

By day's end the agency said the research at Natanz had not yet restarted. "Our inspectors who were at the scene today reported that there was no new activity or breaking of seals," said Melissa Fleming, an agency spokeswoman.

The sticking point appears to be Iran's indecision about whether to merely test its equipment or go further and conduct experiments with nuclear fuel, which Mohamed ElBaradei, the international agency's director, called "a red line for the international community" in an interview on Monday with the BBC.

He urged Iran to "exercise maximum restraint," and predicted that the impasse with Iran "could turn into a major crisis," because of Iran's lack of full cooperation with his agency and its plans to restart nuclear research.

The international nuclear agency has failed to persuade Iran to turn over some important information about its nuclear history and to give agency inspectors access to certain sites. But Iran's lack of openness is a separate issue from whether it has a legal right to conduct nuclear research.

Dr. ElBaradei acknowledged that a wide array of nuclear activities were permitted under the nonproliferation treaty. "As a matter of law, Iran has the right to do all the nuclear activities, including enriching uranium," he told James P. Rubin in an interview on Monday with the London-based Sky News.

Iran's announcement that it planned to resume its nuclear research brought a new flurry of international condemnation.

"Very, very disastrous signals" are coming from Iran, Germany's new foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, told reporters before a cabinet meeting outside Berlin.

The White House on Monday warned Iran that it might be referred to the United Nations Security Council for possible censure or sanctions. The international community has already warned Iran that "the next step would be a referral to the Security Council," said the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan.

Late last year, the 35-country board of the international nuclear agency voted to refer Iran's case for consideration by the Security Council if it did not meet its international obligations. But Russia, China and some other important countries are still resistant to Council action.

Marking the start of Austria's six-month presidency of the European Union on Monday, Chancellor Wolfgang Schüssel said sanctions were always a "possibility," adding that the 25-country union had always considered them "a last resort."

Germany, France and Britain are concerned that Iran's newest move could shatter the agreement they reached in November 2004 under which Iran agreed to freeze most of its nuclear activities, including nuclear research, in exchange for a broad package of political and economic incentives.

Iran Defiant (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/10/international/middleeast/10iran.html?ei=5065&en=4b45d659d1b86ee5&ex=1137474000&adxnnl=1&partner=MYWAY&adxnnlx=1136871586-WfabZ4vMgAG/y0ZfY3oe+Q&pagewanted=print)


Title: Iran has built 5,000 centrifuges, says opposition
Post by: Shammu on January 10, 2006, 11:01:56 PM
Iran has built 5,000 centrifuges, says opposition
Jan 10 2:28 PM US/Eastern


Iran has secretly built thousands of centrifuge machines for its nuclear plant at Natanz, an exiled opposition figure alleged.

The claims by opposition figure Alireza Jafarzadeh could not be independently verified, but if confirmed, they would likely enflame the worsening standoff over Iran's nuclear program.

The new allegations came hours after Iran resumed sensitive nuclear research after a two-year suspension, triggering fierce Western condemnation and risking censure by the UN Security Council.

Jafarzadeh, citing what he said was intelligence from the Iranian opposition and sources within the Iranian nuclear program, said Tehran had already committed serious violations before Tuesday.

"Iran has already manufactured as many as 5,000 centrifuge machines ready to be installed in Natanz, which is a clear breach of its agreements with the IAEA and the EU," Jafarzadeh, former spokesman for the National Council of Resistance of Iran, said at a press conference here.

He said Iran had been continually building underground centrifuge cascade installation platforms at Natanz which could be used in the process of enriching uranium on a large scale suitable for a nuclear bomb.

Jafarzadeh released information in 2002 which amounted to the first outside glimpse into the Iranian nuclear program and which triggered International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) scrutiny.

He said that work at Natanz was now so advanced that construction could be finished by the middle of this year, though it was unclear when installation of enrichment facilities would be complete.

"The 5,000 centrifuge machines are going to be installed in underground cascade halls. ... All of this has been going on while supposedly the program has been under freeze," he said.

Iran said Tuesday it was removing the seals on several nuclear operations, including a small 164-centrifuge cascade at Natanz -- which in itself would not be able to produce enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon.

But it said enrichment remained frozen. Tehran denies that it is seeking a nuclear weapon, and it has been trying to draw a distinction between research into the fuel cycle and actual production of enriched uranium.

Paul Leventhal, president of the independent Nuclear Control Institute research group, appeared alongside Jafarzadeh at the press conference and called on the IAEA to act to see if his claims were true.

"If the information obtained by the Iranian opposition can be verified, ... then we have a major crisis on our hands," he said.

"Can such a remarkable allegation be true? There is only one way to find out. IAEA inspectors now standing at the Natanz site should demand immediate access to the areas where these secret activities allegedly are taking place."

Robert Einhorn, an independent expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who was not linked to the press conference, said Jafarzadeh had a mixed accuracy record on Iran's nuclear program.

"His organisation was on target in the summer of 2002. Without information from his organisation, we would largely be in the dark today on Iran's nuclear program.

"Having said that, his organisation's batting average over the last three years or so has not been very good," said Einhorn, who served as assistant secretary of state for non-proliferation between 1999 and August 2001.

"There is no way to evaluate the credibility of this information unless it is backed up by specific information on the whereabouts of the manufacture of these 5,000 centrifuge machines, and so on."

Einhorn did say, however, that the existence of such equipment would "be a large-scale violation of Iran's commitment to the Europeans and the IAEA board to suspend all manufacture of these centrifuge machines."

Jafarzadeh said military companies linked with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard had built most of the alleged centrifuge parts but could not exactly pinpoint their location.

"The 5,000 centrifuges, I don't know exactly where they are. It is conceivable that some or all of them are already in Natanz," he said.

Iran has built 5,000 centrifuges, says opposition (http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/060110192759.h9j5801h.html)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: twobombs on January 11, 2006, 01:00:25 PM
I personally won't venture into making predictions about this year but I do believe the cart has just started rolling but hasn't reached the downhill incline yet. When it does things will start moving really, really fast.


And that, my dear friends in Christ, is literally what the Lord has told me just a few days ago; the megadeath this from my part, and could be a year of, but once things are rolling, they will be rolling in the FAST LANE


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: twobombs on January 11, 2006, 01:02:45 PM
Sounds like a band. ;) I think this rollercoaster, will be picking up steam, this year. But I will not make any  predictions. Though my Prophecymeter, is hitting the close to top, of the scale. :o

Dream, it is [also] the name of a rockband, but they lended the term from urban thermo-nucleair scenarios originating from the 80's.


Title: Islamic cleric called for Jews to die, London trial told
Post by: Shammu on January 11, 2006, 03:52:27 PM
Islamic cleric called for Jews to die, London trial told

Wed Jan 11, 8:17 AM ET

LONDON (AFP) - Islamic cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri called for Jews, "infidels" and lapsed Muslims to be killed, a court in London heard as the soliciting-to-murder and race-hate case against him opened.

Opening the trial of the one-eyed, hook-handed former imam at Old Bailey criminal court, prosecutor David Perry said Hamza preached "murder and hatred" during his sermons and lectures.

"You will hear the tapes and you will hear that the defendant, Sheikh Abu Hamza, encouraged his listeners, whether they were an audience at a private meeting or congregation at a mosque, to believe that it was part of a religious duty to fight in the cause of Allah, God," he told the jury Wednesday.

"And as part of the religious duty to fight for Allah, it was part of the religious duty to kill. The people they were encouraged to kill were non-believers."

Egyptian-born Hamza, 47, who preached at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, faces a total of 15 charges, including nine of "soliciting to murder" and four of using language aimed at stirring up racial hatred.

One of the charges accused him of possessing a document, "The Encyclopaedia of the Afghani Jihad", which contained information "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".

Another accuses him of having video and audio recordings which he intended to distribute to stir up racial hatred.

His trial is expected to last three weeks.

Islamic cleric called for Jews to die, London trial told (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060111/wl_uk_afp/britainegyptattacksjusticehamza;_ylt=Agc9X8vbzTLKE1Q0bI1Zz1N0bBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 11, 2006, 04:09:24 PM
Muslim leader urges halt in Israel's Temple Mount excavations

The Associated Press
Thursday, January 5th, 2006 10:53 AM (PST)
JERUSALEM (AP) - The Holy Land's top Muslim cleric demanded that Israel halt an archaeological project near a central holy site for Muslims and Jews.

Israeli authorities recently unveiled an underground location that strengthens Jewish ties to the site known to Jews as the Temple Mount and to Muslims as Haram as-Sharif (the Noble Sanctuary). The site of ancient Jewish Temples now contains Islam's Al Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock and is revered as the place where the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven.

Israel has conducted archaeological digs nearby since it captured East Jerusalem in 1967. The digs infuriate Palestinians and the Islamic Trust that oversees the mosque complex.

In September, Israel opened a tourist center at an underground site near the compound that showcases a ritual bath from the period of the second Temple (destroyed in 70 A.D.) and a wall dating to the first Temple (destroyed in 586 B.C.).

The top Muslim clergyman, or mufti, of Jerusalem, Ikrema Sabri, on Tuesday called the archaeological project "aggression" that threatened the mosque compound.

In 1996, Palestinians rioted when Israel opened an archaeological tunnel alongside the compound, and 80 people died. Violence after then-opposition leader Ariel Sharon visited the site in 2000 evolved into years of Palestinian uprisings that killed more than 3,500 Palestinians and more than 1,000 Israelis.



Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 11, 2006, 04:10:06 PM
 Temple Mount synagogue charge

JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israel’s Islamic Movement accused Jews of secretly building a synagogue under the Al-Aksa Mosque.

Movement leader Sheik Raed Salah claimed Tuesday that Jews have prayed in a five-room complex built under cover of excavations on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, 100 yards from the site of Al-Aksa.

Salah has a history of fabricating incendiary charges about the Temple Mount to whip up Muslim anger against Israel, and Israel’s Antiquities Authority said his latest salvo had no basis in reality.


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 11, 2006, 04:14:15 PM
Al Qaeda Moving Closer to Major Attack on Israel, Expert Says

By Julie Stahl

Jan 11, 2006

Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - While it is still not clear whether al Qaeda operatives in Iraq carried out recent rocket attacks against northern Israel, the terror group plans to launch major attacks against the Jewish State in the near future, a leading expert here said.

Al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility for firing three Katyusha rockets from southern Lebanon into the northern Israeli city of Kiryat Shmona two weeks ago. The attacks caused extensive damage but no injuries.

On Monday, an audio recording attributed to Abu Musab al Zarqawi, al Qaeda's top man in Iraq, said Osama bin Laden himself gave the orders to fire the rockets at northern Israel last month.

There was no confirmation that the voice on the website is indeed that of al Zarqawi, but the recording was placed on a website used by al Zarqawi's group, Organization of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. (Jordanian-born al-Zarqawi has claimed responsibility for massive bombings and abductions and beheadings of foreigners in Iraq. His current stated goal is to drive the U.S. and its allies out of Iraq.)

The voice on the recording said the rockets fired from south Lebanon at Israelis (whom he called "the ancestors of monkeys and pigs") "were only the start of a blessed in-depth strike against the Zionist enemy" and had been given "on the instructions" of Osama bin Laden.

Israel initially blamed a Palestinian group - the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command -- and targeted a PFLP-GC training base in Lebanon in retaliation.

But the PFLP-GC denied any involvement in the rocket attack, and a day later al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility on a website used by the group.

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said last week that Israel was taking the al Qaeda claim seriously. Mofaz said Palestinian organizations in south Lebanon supplied the physical infrastructure for groups like Islamic Jihad and al Qaeda to act against Israel.

Matter of time

In general, the policy and strategy of al Qaeda is eventually to carry out attacks against Israel. "It's a matter of time. Now it's closer than before," said Dr. Yoram Kahati of the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center near Tel Aviv.

Al Qaeda in Iraq previously has said that when it finishes in Iraq, it will launch attacks in neighboring countries, namely Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

But Israel is enemy number one for the group, Kahati said.

Kahati referred to a book written in Arabic and published this past summer, in which the author, Jordanian journalist Fuad Hussein, laid out al-Qaeda's long-term strategy.

"Israel is supposed to be the target [sometime between] 2006-2010...I assume our turn will come. In their mind, [they believe] it will," said Kahati.

Kahati said there are number of signs indicating that al Qaeda may soon set its sights on Israel.

In claiming responsibility for the November suicide bombings in Jordan, al Qaeda threatened to harm the Jewish State.

Al Qaeda said it was targeting "Jews and Crusaders" when it carried out suicide bombings at three hotels in Amman; and it threatened further action against Israel.

In statements claiming responsibility for recent rocket attacks on northern Israel, the perpetrators -- supposedly al Qaeda -- threatened that there was "worse to come," Kahati said.

He added it is not clear how the Palestinian terror groups would react to an al Qaeda presence here. Hamas, for instance considers al Qaeda attacks inspiring; but on the other hand the group would not want someone else stealing the limelight, Kahati said.

Earlier, al-Zarqawi said that when his group finished in Iraq, it would head for the al Aksa Mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, which is a prominent rallying point for enlisting masses of Muslims in actions against Israel.

"It looks like their vision is developing [and] coming through step by step," said Kahati. "It's very worrying."

In the website posting this week, al-Zarqawi (or a voice claiming to be his) said there are two conditions for ending jihad (holy war) in the world.

"First, chase out the invaders from our territory in Palestine, in Iraq and everywhere in Islamic land," he said.

"Second, install sharia (Islamic religious law) on the entire Earth and spread Islamic justice there...The attacks will not cease until after the victory of Islam and the setting up of sharia," he said.




Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on January 11, 2006, 04:36:02 PM
How does one govern such a people  ???  :-\


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 11, 2006, 04:46:18 PM
How does one govern such a people  ???  :-\


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Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 11, 2006, 08:42:12 PM
How does one govern such a people  ???  :-\
Hmmmmmmm,..................

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A Rod of Iron!

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Title: Israel 'can destroy' Iran nukes
Post by: Shammu on January 11, 2006, 09:17:42 PM
Israel 'can destroy' Iran nukes

By CLAUDE SALHANI
UPI International Editor

WASHINGTON, Jan. 11 (UPI) -- Just a few days before Iran announced it was removing U.N. seals on its uranium enrichment equipment and resuming nuclear research, Israel's Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Dan Halutz said Iran's nuclear program "can be destroyed." He made the comments during a conference at Tel Aviv University, Israeli Army Radio reported.

Halutz, however, stated Iran's continued nuclear program "it is not only Israel's problem," but said the ball was in Iran's court.

"There is no doubt the Iranians are taking this to the brink," he said.

Binyamin Netanyahu, who replaced Ariel Sharon as the head of Likud, told United Press International last November much the same, that Iran was not only Israel's problem.

The possibility of Israel and the United States acting jointly to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities has long been discussed in war rooms in Washington and Tel Aviv since word first leaked out that Iran was developing a nuclear program.

If the decision is eventually taken to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, the odds, though, are that it will be Israel acting unilaterally. Any assistance from the United States will in all probability be limited to very discreet help provided by the U.S. intelligence community, such as offers of intelligence, satellite imagery and on the ground hum-int (human intelligence) data collected by opponents to the regime of the ayatollahs that finds it way to the CIA Headquarters at Langley, Va.

With about 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq -- and within easy reach of Iranian firepower, either in the form of direct rocket and artillery attack, or by Iraqi militia proxy, of which there is no shortage in Iraq -- it would be suicidal for the United States to attempt a direct attack on Iran.

 Reacting to Iran's decision to resume nuclear fuel production research, Israel's Foreign Ministry responded by issuing a statement saying, "It is clear that this step calls for a grave and immediate international response -- sending the issue to the United Nations Security Council." The Israeli Foreign Ministry said remitting the Iran dossier to the Security Council would "send a clear message that the international community will not reconcile with Iran's breaching its commitments."

Tehran denies it is developing nuclear fuel to produce weapons, saying its program is only to generate electricity.

Before the issue can be referred to the Security Council, the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog based in Vienna, would need to take a vote on the matter. However, the 35-nation board at its last meeting in November put off a referral vote to allow diplomacy to take its course.

Yet clearly the diplomatic track has gone nowhere.

Alireza Jafarzadeh, president of Strategic Policy Consulting and a former Washington spokesman for Iran's parliament in exile, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, said the dialogue between the European Union-3 (Britain, France, Germany) with Iran "is dead."

Jafarzadeh added: "The Iranian regime has made a conscious decision to acquire and impose a complete nuclear fuel cycle on the world community, which the regime mockingly describes as power diplomacy." The aim of Tehran's regime, says Jafarzadeh, is to proceed "step-by-step, until the international community is faced with a fait accompli."

For Israel to carry out pre-emptive strikes against Iran represents a real challenge. Unlike the now legendary strike on Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981, when the Israeli air force destroyed Iraq's sole reactor, and along with it Saddam Hussein's dreams of joining the nuclear club, Iran's reactor have been scattered all over the map. According to reports from the Mojahedeed-e-Khalq, a group opposed to the current regime in Tehran, Iran's Revolutionary Guards, to whom the task has been assigned to defend the nuclear sites, has buried Iran's nuclear facilities in deep underground bunkers, often underneath rock mountains. Additionally, unlike Osirak, where the Iraqis had built a single facility, the Iranian nuclear project is scattered around anywhere from 200 to 300 sites. It would be like searching for Waldo.

On the other hand, given Ariel Sharon's incapacitated state following a massive stroke, should Israel's interim Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who is largely perceived as a lightweight by many Israeli voters, take it upon himself to order an attack on Iran -- and if it should prove to be successful -- it would almost guarantee Olmert and the new Kadima Party a win in next March 28 election.

The date also coincides with the "window of opportunity" intelligence experts say will then be closed. One diplomat speaking to United Press International on condition of anonymity, said there "should be a tremendous sense of urgency because of the cascades Iran has put into place. This is it."

Still, the foreign diplomat said, "Diplomacy is still the best outcome. The trick is to get China and Russia on board."

The question though is will China and Russia play ball?

Israel 'can destroy' Iran nukes (http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060111-022754-7890r)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 12, 2006, 10:08:50 AM
World pressure mounts on Iran over nuclear dispute
Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:45 AM ET14

 By Louis Charbonneau

BERLIN (Reuters) - Moves to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council for defying the world over its nuclear program gathered pace on Thursday as big powers announced plans for a crisis meeting in London next week.

The foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany were expected to abandon talks with Iran and call for its referral to the council at a meeting in Berlin later on Thursday.

If the ministers agree to such a push, it would signify the end of 2-1/2 years of diplomatic effort by the European Union's three biggest nations to convince the Islamic republic to abandon its uranium enrichment program, which they suspect it intends to use to produce fuel for atomic weapons.

Iran says it only aims to develop a civilian nuclear power program in accordance with international law.

British Foreign Minister Jack Straw said it was "highly probable" Iran would be referred to the Security Council after its decision to restart sensitive nuclear work this week.

The council could impose a range of sanctions on Tehran.

Straw, leaving for the Berlin meeting with his French and German counterparts and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, said he thought Russia's views on Iran were akin to Britain's.

"Russia, too, has been extremely helpful. We've consulted with them very closely. It's for them to say what their position is, but I think you'll find they're in a very similar place to us," said Straw.

RUSSIAN, CHINESE MISGIVINGS

Russia, along with China, has previously resisted sending Iran to the Security Council over the nuclear dispute.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told Ekho Moskvy radio his country, a big energy partner of Iran, was concerned about its latest moves. He said Moscow would do its best to persuade Tehran to renew its nuclear moratorium.

Russia is building a $1 billion nuclear reactor at Bushehr in Iran. China imports significant amounts of Iranian oil.

China said it hoped Iran would return to talks on the nuclear dispute and urged all parties to exercise restraint.

"We hope Iran can do more to promote mutual confidence between itself and the EU3, and return to negotiations," a spokesman for China's foreign ministry, Kong Quan, said.

Seeking an international consensus on sending Iran to the Security Council, Britain said it would host talks involving the United States, Russia, China and the EU3 next week.

Iran has completed the removal of U.N. seals on its nuclear fuel research sites, but will need time to refurbish machinery before it can start enriching uranium, a Western diplomat said.

Iran raised the stakes in its nuclear standoff with the West on Tuesday when it began to take off the seals placed by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on equipment used to enrich uranium. The process can produce fuel for power stations or, if the uranium is highly purified, for bombs.

The diplomat, who is close to the IAEA and asked not to be named, said the Iranians would probably have to rebuild its entire cascade of enrichment centrifuges. "There's a lot of humidity, corrosion. It's going to take a long time," he added.

The sites were mothballed under a November 2004 agreement with France, Britain and Germany, which had been leading negotiations with Iran with Washington's blessing.

An EU3 diplomat said the plan for the Berlin meeting, due to start at 3:30 p.m. (1430 GMT), was "cancellation and referral" -- meaning scrapping talks with Iran unless it promises not to begin enriching uranium, and recourse to the Security Council.

OIL MARKET JITTERS

The mounting tensions sent crude oil prices sharply higher as concern grew that Iran, the world's fourth biggest oil exporter, may use oil exports as a retaliatory weapon against the West or that sanctions could hit oilfield investment.

U.S. crude futures were up 67 cents at $64.61 a barrel after rising 57 cents on Wednesday when prices hit a three-month high of $64.80 amid volatile trading.

EU patience with Tehran has been wearing thin for months. The EU3 broke off negotiations with Iran after it re-started uranium processing in August, but resumed talks last month.

European anger intensified after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and queried whether six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

European diplomats say they expect the IAEA's board of governors to convene in early February to discuss turning Iran's case over to the Security Council. They say a simple majority on the U.N. nuclear watchdog's 35-nation board favors such a move, but add that EU and U.S. officials want broader support.
World pressure mounts on Iran over nuclear dispute (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-12T134540Z_01_FOR172289_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 12, 2006, 10:14:27 AM
'Peaceful' PA official praises suicide bombers
Speech in Arabic language belies his pronouncements in English
Posted: January 12, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – A Palestinian official who publicly claims to support Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives this week gave a speech in Arabic in which he praised suicide bombers, blasted "filthy [Israeli] occupation," and declared Jerusalem is Palestinian land.

Qadura Faras, a Palestinian Legislative Council member and lawmaker from the ruling Fatah party, has been a vocal proponent of the Geneva Initiative, a private peace proposal drafted in 2003 by a group of extreme leftist Israelis, Palestinians and Europeans calling for an immediate Palestinian state in Gaza, Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.

Faras appears on a video featured on the official Geneva Initiative website with a message of peace toward Israelis:

    "It is always asked, do you [Israelis] have a partner on the other side. I am telling you with full sincerity, we are ready to reach an inclusive agreement with you, which will promise us freedom and liberty and statehood, and will promise you the thing we know you are sensitive to, which is your full right to live in peace and security."

But Israel-based Palestinian Media Watch reports Faras this week conveyed a different kind of message in a speech to a group of Palestinians.

According to the Al-Hayat Al-Jadida Palestinian newspaper, which covered Faras' Arabic-language address, the Fatah official "emphasized the continuation of the struggle until the freeing of all of the Palestinian territories from the filth of the occupation, and establishing the independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. Fares blessed the prisoners behind bars, and in particular mentioned the imprisoned fighter, "The Sniper" Tha'ir Hamed, who carried out the ... operation that led to the killing and injuring of several of the occupation soldiers."

Hamed was involved in terror attacks that killed 10 Israelis.

Continued Al-Hayat: "Fares mentioned the good traits of the ubgone19s ("martyrs," or suicide bombers) while clarifying their role in defending the homeland, fending off the aggression, and resisting the occupation. Faras said, 'We are all going in the way of Ziad Hamed, the ubgone19 of Silwad, until the fulfillment of the goal for which he became a ubgone19 ... ."

Faras' comments follow militant statements by other Palestinian officials who are considered by some in Israel to be "supporters of peace."

WND reported that as part of their campaign for Palestinian legislative elections currently scheduled for the end of this month, senior politicians from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party have been advocating continued terror attacks against Israel, including the firing of missiles.

"The West Bank is still occupied, and resistance is a legitimate right. I am not in favor of [launching] missiles, but it is our right to resist, to react and to confront the occupation," PA National Security Adviser Jabril Rajoub said in a recent interview with an Egyptian newspaper, according to a translation by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at Israel's Center for Special Studies.

Rajoub went on to declare that a cease-fire last February between Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was signed to appease international public opinion and put pressure on Israel.

"The lull is open and changes according to developments in the field," Rajoub said. "Its main objective is to maintain local and international momentum, which serves Palestinian interests. The lull's function is also to exert pressure on the criminal Israeli government."

Also campaigning in upcoming elections is PA Minister of Civil Affairs Muhammad Dahlan, a longtime Fatah official who has been called a "moderate" by several Israeli and American politicians.

During a campaign stop last month in the large Gaza town of Khan Yunis, the Palestinian News Agency reported Dahlan called on Palestinians "to complete what was achieved in the Gaza Strip. To liberate Jerusalem and the West Bank. The refugees [must] take by force the right to return to their houses."

The "right of return" is widely seen by Israelis as a ploy to flood Israel with millions of Palestinians, thus threatening the country's Jewish character.

Senior Fatah activist Muhammad Hijazi, who has said he supports negotiations with Israel, noted in a recent interview with the Egyptian Al-Bayan newspaper the importance of "the path of jihad and resistance until all Palestinian land has been liberated."

Hajiza stated weapons in the possession of Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a terror group responsible for scores of suicide bombings, shootings and rocket attacks, were "legitimate," since the Brigades had "the right to respond to the occupation's crimes."

'Peaceful' PA official praises suicide bombers (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48301)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 12, 2006, 10:28:15 AM
Updated Jan. 12, 2006 15:04
IAF intelligence: Iran beefing up air defenses
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN
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A recent research project by the IAF has determined that in the summer of 1981 Israel did not have a clear picture of the impact a strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor would have, but chose to attack anyway.

Prime minister Menachem Begin ordered the bombing, condemned by the world at the time, thus inaugurating what became known as the "Begin Doctrine," Israel's policy of launching a pre-emptive strike to prevent any of its enemies acquiring nuclear weapons.

It is the Begin Doctrine which repeatedly has been invoked lately regarding Iran and Israel's response to its suspected efforts to produce nuclear weapons. The internal IAF research paper shows that the feasibility of a successful military operation need not be total in order for Israeli leaders to order such a strike. This appears to abate a recently published US army report that claims Israel has no viable military option against Iranian nukes.

According to a senior Air Force officer who was privy to the IAF paper, the intelligence available at the time of the June 1981 strike on the Iraqi reactor at Osirak was only partial and it was unclear whether the planned air raid would be effective.

"At the time, there was no firm information on either the extent of the damage that the strike could cause or whether it would have a fatal impact on the Iraqi nuclear program. The information he had was very partial, even to the extent of the physical damage we could do to the target and how much it would delay the Iraqi program," said the senior officer.

But that was history and today it is Iran and its nuclear program that weighs heavy on their minds. The IAF officer said that Iran is increasingly fearful of attack. "But they are limited in their ability to create an effective air defense," he said.

According to intelligence, Iran has beefed up its air defenses around various nuclear sites as a precaution against a possible pre-emptive strike by US or Israeli forces. The source described the present Iranian air defenses as "good." It is known that Iran has deployed Soviet-origin anti-aircraft systems around the 1000-megawatt Bushehr nuclear reactor.

Iran's air defense contains Russian SA-2, SA-5, SA-6 as well as shoulder-launched SA-7 missiles, according to The Military Balance published by the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies. They also have aged US-made Hawk missiles and have been seeking to purchase the sophisticated S-300P from Russia.

One war game scenario played out by the IAF was an American attack on Iranian nuclear sites. In this case, it was believed the US would give Israel a prior warning of "perhaps a day, nothing significant." "There is no way the Iranians would believe that it was the Americans and [they] will seek to retaliate against Israel," a senior officer said.

The officer declined to say whether there were key targets in Iran that, if destroyed, would seriously set back their nuclear program.

"I will have to provide targets to the generals so that they can offer various options to the government," the senior officer said. "We have to be able to provide answers all of the time for potential targets."

Ironically, the Israeli F-16s that bombed Osirak were actually built for the Iranians. Israel received them instead after the Islamic revolution toppled the shah and the US imposed an arms embargo on Teheran. Today, the IAF has a new generation of F-16s custom built for striking Iran.

IAF intelligence: Iran beefing up air defenses (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136361062324&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 12, 2006, 09:21:10 PM
Jan. 12, 2006 15:04
IAF intelligence: Iran beefing up air defenses
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN

A recent research project by the IAF has determined that in the summer of 1981 Israel did not have a clear picture of the impact a strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor would have, but chose to attack anyway.

Prime minister Menachem Begin ordered the bombing, condemned by the world at the time, thus inaugurating what became known as the "Begin Doctrine," Israel's policy of launching a pre-emptive strike to prevent any of its enemies acquiring nuclear weapons.

It is the Begin Doctrine which repeatedly has been invoked lately regarding Iran and Israel's response to its suspected efforts to produce nuclear weapons. The internal IAF research paper shows that the feasibility of a successful military operation need not be total in order for Israeli leaders to order such a strike. This appears to abate a recently published US army report that claims Israel has no viable military option against Iranian nukes.

According to a senior Air Force officer who was privy to the IAF paper, the intelligence available at the time of the June 1981 strike on the Iraqi reactor at Osirak was only partial and it was unclear whether the planned air raid would be effective.

"At the time, there was no firm information on either the extent of the damage that the strike could cause or whether it would have a fatal impact on the Iraqi nuclear program. The information he had was very partial, even to the extent of the physical damage we could do to the target and how much it would delay the Iraqi program," said the senior officer.

But that was history and today it is Iran and its nuclear program that weighs heavy on their minds. The IAF officer said that Iran is increasingly fearful of attack. "But they are limited in their ability to create an effective air defense," he said.

According to intelligence, Iran has beefed up its air defenses around various nuclear sites as a precaution against a possible pre-emptive strike by US or Israeli forces. The source described the present Iranian air defenses as "good." It is known that Iran has deployed Soviet-origin anti-aircraft systems around the 1000-megawatt Bushehr nuclear reactor.

Iran's air defense contains Russian SA-2, SA-5, SA-6 as well as shoulder-launched SA-7 missiles, according to The Military Balance published by the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies. They also have aged US-made Hawk missiles and have been seeking to purchase the sophisticated S-300P from Russia.

One war game scenario played out by the IAF was an American attack on Iranian nuclear sites. In this case, it was believed the US would give Israel a prior warning of "perhaps a day, nothing significant." "There is no way the Iranians would believe that it was the Americans and [they] will seek to retaliate against Israel," a senior officer said.

The officer declined to say whether there were key targets in Iran that, if destroyed, would seriously set back their nuclear program.

"I will have to provide targets to the generals so that they can offer various options to the government," the senior officer said. "We have to be able to provide answers all of the time for potential targets."

Ironically, the Israeli F-16s that bombed Osirak were actually built for the Iranians. Israel received them instead after the Islamic revolution toppled the shah and the US imposed an arms embargo on Teheran. Today, the IAF has a new generation of F-16s custom built for striking Iran.

IAF intelligence: Iran beefing up air defenses (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136361062324&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull)


Title: Iran says to end atomic site checks if sent to UN
Post by: Shammu on January 13, 2006, 01:45:20 AM
Iran says to end atomic site checks if sent to UN

By Parisa Hafezi 5 minutes ago

TEHRAN (Reuters) -
Iran said on Friday it would end voluntary cooperation with the United Nations over its nuclear program, including snap checks of atomic sites, if Tehran was referred to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions.

The United States and the European Union's three biggest powers said on Thursday talks with Iran to curb its nuclear program were at an impasse and Tehran should be brought before the Security Council.

Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Iran would end snap U.N. checks of its atomic facilities and would resume uranium enrichment if its case was sent to the Security Council.

"The government will be obliged to end all of its voluntary measures if sent to the U.N. council," Mottaki was quoted as saying by the official IRNA news agency.

Accusing Iran of turning its back on the international community, the EU's "Big Three" -- Britain, Germany and France -- said it had consistently breached its commitments and failed to show the world its nuclear activities were peaceful.

A joint statement from the so-called "EU3" countries said: "We believe the time has now come for the Security Council to become involved."

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joined calls for an emergency meeting of the board of governors of the
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the U.N. nuclear watchdog, to seek a referral to the Council, which can impose sanctions.

Oil prices climbed to a three-month high as mounting tension over Iran stoked fears of supply disruption from the world's fourth biggest crude exporter, though they later pulled back.

The announcement by the EU's "Big Three" signified the end of 2-1/2 years of attempts to convince Iran to abandon its uranium enrichment program, which they suspect it intends to use to produce fuel for nuclear weapons.

Iran says it aims to develop only a civilian nuclear power program in accordance with international law.

Tehran raised the stakes on Tuesday when it began to remove IAEA seals on equipment used to enrich uranium. The process can produce fuel for power stations or, if the uranium is highly purified, for bombs.

Iran's parliament passed a bill in November obliging the government to stop following the Additional Protocol to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that allows snap U.N. checks of atomic sites.

The bill also called on Iran to resume all nuclear activities that it had stopped voluntarily, foremost among them being a moratorium on enriching uranium.

Iran says to end atomic site checks if sent to UN (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/nuclear_iran_dc;_ylt=Apvq310KlTeY.V9VwS_vk8Ss0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 13, 2006, 10:22:57 AM
Israel's new confidence
in attack on Iran nukes
Air force has workable war plan
with high probability of success

Israeli military planners have more confidence in the success of an attack on Iran's nuclear weapons facilities and have already begun sending signals to Tehran that it will not be permitted to threatened the Jewish state with annihilation.

The new government of acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also wants the mullah government in the Islamic republic to understand that the incapacitation of Ariel Sharon will not leave Israel in any less state of military readiness.

Yesterday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed strong U.S. support for a European move to take the issue of Iran's nuclear program to the U.N. Security Council. The secretary accused Iran of deliberately escalating the confrontation over the issue, but said the United States still hopes for a diplomatic solution.

The secretary of state endorsed the European decision in a statement to reporters, saying "provocative" Iranian actions in recent days had shattered the basis for further talks between Iran and three European nations.

The U.S. is certain that Iran's "civilian" nuclear program conceals an ambitious secret weapons effort.

The secretary said it was premature to talk about possible U.N. sanctions or whether permanent Security Council members Russia and China, which have extensive commercial dealings with Iran, could be persuaded to support them.

She plans to speak with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing as part of a far-reaching U.S. diplomatic push on the Iran issue.

The secretary said since he came to power last year, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has done nothing but confront the international system on the nuclear issue with outrageous statements, the likes of which, she said, "have not been made in polite company" in many years.

Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth and suggested that the Jewish state be moved to Europe. He also denied the Holocaust ever happened.

Israel has no illusions about the U.N. solving the crisis.

G2 Bulletin sources say a recent statement by the Israeli military chief of intelligence, Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash, that March 1 would be the time limit for diplomatic means to deter Iran's plans was actually an implied warning to Iran.

Sources in Tel Aviv and in several European capitals, say Zeevi's remarks were based on a military-planned timetable and a possible D-Day to take the Iranian military nuclear plant out of the picture.

Gen. Dan Halutz, Israel's chief of staff and former air force commander, intentionally selected to be the first chief of staff to come from the air force, last week said there are several military means to deal with the problem.

Although his statement was somewhat vague, Halutz is known for his verbal restraint. Sources say he is certain the Israeli military machine would be as effective against the Iranian project as it was in 1981 against the Iraqi Ossiraq nuclear site.

Sources in Israel also believe public disclosures about the Israeli air force's "anti-aircraft imaging unit" are significant. The Israel air force magazine re-published a story in December 2005 under the title: "Know Thy Enemy." It dealt specifically with the anti-aircraft missile threat, which could be the major obstacle in taking out the Iranian system. The special unit's existence was until recently classified as top secret.

Since 1996, the air force and the Rafael Weapons Development Authority have been jointly operating a unit of Soviet anti-aircraft systems similar to those in service in the Middle East. The unit, based on thorough knowledge of Russian-made systems, is instrumental in the training of Israeli air force fighter pilots on how to survive anti-aircraft and radar threats, sometimes thousands of kilometers away from base. The unit also operates weapon systems captured from Arab armies, undisclosed purchased equipment and secret computer developments of systems identical to anti-aircraft systems used by Iran, and even systems directly ordered by Iran from the Russians to protect their nuclear assets.

The Israelis have also received help from former Soviet or Russian anti-aircraft officers who immigrated to Israel.

The air force also chose to reveal details of its cooperation with the Turkish air force including the deployment of Israeli fighter jets in Turkey and Turkish squadrons in Israel as part of a joint training program. Even Greece, which for years rejected any cooperation with Israel, recently announced its air force is also fully cooperating with the Israeli air force.

This cooperation with regional air forces, especially with Turkey, which borders Iran in the east, is highly significant when mentioned in uncensored air force publications.



Title: Iran Threatens to End Nuclear Cooperation
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 12:12:40 AM
Iran Threatens to End Nuclear Cooperation

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer Fri Jan 13, 6:39 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran threatened Friday to end surprise inspections and other cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if it is referred to the U.N. Security Council over its nuclear program, and the president vowed his country won't be intimidated by sanctions.

Iran's tough line came as Europe and the United States were trying to build support for hauling Iran before the Security Council. They faced resistance from China, which warned the move could only escalate the confrontation.

In Washington, President Bush and German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged U.N. intervention. The world needs to "send a common message to Iran that their behavior ... is unacceptable," Bush said.

An end to U.N. inspections would be a dramatic breakdown in the already faltering diplomatic attempts at reining in Iran's nuclear ambitions. The United States and many in Europe fear Iran aims to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran insists its program is peaceful, intended only to produce electricity. But it has insisted on its right to conduct uranium enrichment, a process that can produce reactor fuel or material for a nuclear bomb.

After Iran resumed research work on enrichment this week, Britain, France and Germany issued a tough statement Thursday declaring 2 1/2 years of tense negotiations with Tehran at a "dead end" and urging the Security Council to intervene.

But on Friday, the three countries carefully avoided talk of sanctions, with diplomats privately conceding there was little appetite for tough economic sanctions, such as restricting oil and gas sales — given the impact that would have on the world economy.

Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the Security Council would consider sanctions if Tehran remained defiant. But echoing French and German officials, who said talk of sanctions was "premature," he called for patient, step by step diplomacy.

"Our approach is firm, but it has also got to be a sensible, patient approach which ensures that there is a continuation of the very substantial international consensus which we have built up," he said.

In Tehran, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said a referral to the U.N. would prompt Iran to end its cooperation with the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency outlined in an agreement known as the Additional Protocols, reached in October 2003.

"In case Iran is referred to the U.N. Security Council ... the government will be obliged to end all of its voluntary cooperation," the television quoted Mottaki as saying.

Under the protocols, Iran agreed to allow IAEA inspectors to carry out surprise inspections of its nuclear sites with as little as two hours notice. The deal also lets them inspect sites Iran has not officially declared as nuclear facilities — such as the Parchin military base outside of Tehran that inspectors visited in October, suspecting that nuclear activity was taking place there.

Iran's parliament passed a law late last year requiring the government to block intrusive inspections of Iran's facilities if the U.N. nuclear agency refers the Iranian program to the Security Council.

The law also requires the Iranian government to resume all nuclear activities it had stopped voluntarily, foremost among them enriching uranium. Western countries, and chiefly the U.S., fear enrichment could be used to also produce material for nuclear weapons.

Mottaki did not specifically mention whether Iran would resume enrichment if it were put before the council.

Top Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani called the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, on Friday and stressed Iran's desire to resolve the dispute diplomatically, Iranian state TV reported.

The newscaster said Larijani reiterated to ElBaradei that Iran is determined to realize its nuclear goals "in the framework of international regulations and under the supervision of the IAEA."

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran would not bend before the threat of sanctions.

"Iran is not frightened by threats from any country and it will continue the path of production of the nuclear energy," state-run radio quoted him as saying. "Iranian people do not allow foreigners to block their progress."

Hamidreza Hajbabai, a member of parliament's national security and foreign policy committee, predicted the West would back down from referring Iran to the council.

"Europe does not seek a chaotic situation that does not serve anybody," he told state-run radio.

"Iran is not a country that the West could easily force it to give in nuclear fuel by sanctions and political pressures. These will only make Iranian people united more than before," the radio said in a commentary.

China, which has growing economic ties with Iran and holds veto powers at the Security Council, expressed its opposition to putting Tehran before the world body for possible sanctions.

"We want a solution but to refer it might complicate the issue," its U.N. ambassador, Wang Guangya, said. "This is our concern."

Asked how a referral to the council could complicate the situation, Wang said, "I think that this might make the positions of some parties more tough on this issue."

Europe has been trying to get Iran to permanently abandon uranium enrichment but Iran says it won't give up its right under the NPT to enrich uranium and produce nuclear fuel.

On Tuesday, Iran removed some U.N. seals from its main uranium enrichment facility in Natanz, central Iran, and resumed research on nuclear fuel — including some small-scale enrichment.

In Friday's comments, Mottaki called on Europe to "not make propaganda over research which is natural and normal" and that it was prepared for talks with Europeans over the enrichment process.

Iran also described an earlier proposal to enrich uranium on Russian territory and ship it back to Iran to fuel nuclear power as a good starting point for negotiations.

Iran Threatens to End Nuclear Cooperation (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear;_ylt=Am1.7CENb5ziTG7iisoMFZus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 12:13:53 AM
Cleric says Iran will resist "psychological war"
Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:43 AM ET13

TEHRAN (Reuters) - A leading Iranian cleric said on Friday the Islamic republic would resist the "psychological war" launched against its nuclear program, which the West fears is a front for covert bomb-making.

The United States and the European Union's three biggest powers said on Thursday that talks with Iran to curb its nuclear program were at an impasse and Tehran should be brought before the United Nations Security Council.

Iran warned on Friday it would end voluntary cooperation with the U.N. over its nuclear work if it was referred, including halting snap checks of its nuclear sites.

Cleric Ahmad Khatami said Iran would never succumb to mounting international pressure to abandon its nuclear work.

"This is a psychological war. This nation is not a nation to yield to such pressures," Khatami told worshippers in a Friday prayers sermon at Tehran University.

"The Europeans should avoid the language of threat. Using this language against the great Iranian nation is useless," he said, to chants of "Death to America" and "Death to Britain".

Iran escalated its nuclear standoff with the West on Tuesday when it began removing U.N. seals on equipment used to enrich uranium -- a process of purifying it for use as fuel in nuclear power plants or, when very highly enriched, in bombs.

Tehran insists its nuclear program is aimed solely at producing much-needed electricity and is not, as Washington and the European Union say, a cover for making atomic bombs.

Their suspicions are based on Iran's failure to disclose key nuclear infrastructure and revelations it has been working on some nuclear systems primarily associated with military programs.

Accusing Iran of defying the international community, Britain, Germany and France said it had consistently breached its commitments and failed to show the world its nuclear activities were peaceful.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joined the EU trio's call for an emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency to discuss what she called Iran's "dangerous defiance" in restarting uranium enrichment work.

"That meeting would be to report Iran's non-compliance with its safeguard obligations to the U.N. Security Council," Rice told a news conference in Washington on Thursday.

Cleric says Iran will resist "psychological war" (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-13T124318Z_01_EIC345112_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-CLERIC.xml)


Title: Hamas: We won't honor past agreements
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 12:33:04 AM
Hamas: We won't honor past agreements

Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar tells New York Times all Israeli leaders are 'poison'
Yitzhak Benhorin

Uncompromising message: Hamas will not honor agreements between Israel and the Palestinian Authority should the Islamic group win the upcoming elections, Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar told the New York Times.

However, he added, Hamas would be willing to join forces with current ruling faction Fatah in forming a new government.

"We do not want to replace Fatah," Zahar said, adding that even if Hamas won overwhelming support, all Palestinian factions would be invited to join a coalition government.

"It will not be Hamas alone… Our project is to change the corrupted system, the corrupted regime, to purify the regime," he said.

During the interview, Zahar received a surprising phone call from Palestinian Authority Chairman and Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas, who called to ask Zahar what he thought of a speech delivered by the Palestinian leader Monday evening.

The Hamas leader told Abbas the speech "was positive and acceptable."

During the interview, Zahar avoided answering whether his group would change its longtime goal of destroying Israel. He also refrained from adderssing warnings by the European Union that it might cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority if Hamas became a part of the government.

'All Israeli leaders are poison'

Zahar also refused to speculate about the effects of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's illness, saying whoever leads Israel bears the same message.

"They can put the poison in the honey to give it better taste," he said with a smile, but added that "all of them are poison."

Zahar made it clear that Hamas would not give up its weapons, as demanded by international peace mediators, but that as a partner in government it would support the inclusion of all groups in a unified army that would disarm Palestinian clans fighting amongst themselves.

He said a Palestinian army would focus on protecting against what he described as Israeli incursions, like its recent shelling of northern Gaza to create a buffer zone.

"If the aim is to protect the Israeli border, and to put all the guns in the Palestinian factions who are not ready to confront Israel, this will not be acceptable by anybody," he said.

"But if the aim is to put all of the Palestinian guns on the border to protect our institutions, to protect our lands, I think that would be acceptable," he added.

Meanwhile, Zahar did not reject the possibility of renewed attacks inside Israel. He said that Israel had failed to uphold its end of the nearly yearlong cease-fire by assassinating the leaders of other Palestinian factions that have continued attacks, and that it had not met other conditions of the truce.

"For this reason the calmness has ended," Zahar said. "We have the right to self-defense and to protect our people."

'We're different from al-Qaeda'

But he left open the possibility that Hamas might refrain from attacks on Israel "if not provoked."

He added that factional violence may break out on January 25, the Palestinian election date, but that Hamas would work to avoid civil war, which many people in Gaza fear will follow elections.

"The only winner would be Israel," Zahar said.

He also rejected what he described as recent efforts by Israel to draw a connection between Hamas and al-Qaeda.

"Al-Qaeda is not present here," he said. "We are focused on the occupation. We run no operations outside of Palestine, outside of the occupied territories, so we are completely different from al-Qaeda."

Zahar has great plans for the future, after the elections. He said Hamas would try to develop direct trade with the world, cutting out Israel as intermediary, as is now required by an economic protocol signed in 1994 in Paris.

He described that agreement as a disaster for the Palestinians, using the cost of gasoline as an example: It is five times more expensive when imported through Israel than if purchased directly from Egypt, he said.

Hamas: We won't honor past agreements  (http://www.worthynews.com/zone/ynetnews-com-Ext-Comp-ArticleLayout-CdaArticlePrintPreview-1,2506,L-3199563,00-html/)


Title: Hamas drops call for the end of Israel as poll nears
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 12:34:21 AM
Hamas drops call for the end of Israel as poll nears
By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem
(Filed: 13/01/2006)

Hamas has dropped its long-standing call for Israel to be replaced by an Islamic state in its manifesto for this month's Palestinian elections.

The document, one of the rare occasions when Hamas has declared its policies in writing, does not repeat a tenet of its founding charter that all land west of the Jordan river should be part of an Islamic Palestinian state.

The wording suggests that Hamas is committed to watering down some of the policies that led to it being proscribed by Israel, America and the European Union as a terrorist organisation.

But the manifesto has not been totally cleansed of controversial language. It supports an armed struggle to regain Palestinian land, a struggle that involved numerous Hamas suicide bombs.

The manifesto appears to commit Hamas to a position that has been hinted at by its leadership over the past few years, namely an armed struggle to regain land lost in the 1967 Six Day War to form a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.

The issue of land lost in 1948 with the creation of Israel would then be dealt with by future generations of Hamas leadership.

"Our nation is currently at a stage of national liberation, and it has the right to act to regain its rights and end the occupation by using all means, including armed resistance," the manifesto says. "We must use all means in order to support our people and establish a state whose capital is Jerusalem."

The group's founding charter remains unchanged, predicting that Israel will suffer the same fate as the Crusader kingdoms in the Holy Land in the Middle Ages.
    
Middle East factfile

The Israeli government repeatedly accuses Hamas of being committed to the destruction of Israel. This has led the Jewish state to outlaw Hamas, assassinate its leaders and block election campaigning by its members.

The manifesto forms part of a delicate process whereby Hamas has begun to move in from the extremes of Palestinian politics.

Despite this, Israel's acting prime minister, Ehud Olmert, told President George W Bush that there could be no progress on peace in the Middle East if Hamas entered a Palestinian government.

Mr Olmert said that the Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas must "take steps against terrorism and disband the terrorist organisations because otherwise there can be no progress with an administration in which there are terrorist organisations".

It was Mr Olmert's first telephone conversation with Mr Bush since Ariel Sharon was admitted to hospital.

Hamas's participation in the Jan 25 election is a breakthrough, as the group has previously refused to take part in parliamentary and presidential elections organised by the Palestinian Authority.

Hamas has done relatively well in municipal elections across the occupied territories in recent years although its members were forced to stand as independents as Hamas remains proscribed by the Israeli authorities.

Polling suggests that the group, a Palestinian version of the Muslim Brotherhood created in Egypt in the 1920s, could pose a serious challenge to the ruling Fatah party, founded by Yasser Arafat.

• At least two members of Islamic Jihad died yesterday during an arrest operation by Israeli troops in the West Bank city of Jenin, sources within the radical Palestinian movement said.

One militant blew himself up while another was shot dead, said a Jihad official.

 Hamas drops call for the end of Israel as poll nears (http://www.worthynews.com/zone/telegraph-co-uk-core-Content-displayPrintable-jhtml-xml--news-2006-01-13-wmid13-xml-site-5/)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 10:52:28 PM
Israel Urges Sanctions Against Iran
Jan 13 1:30 PM US/Eastern

By AMY TEIBEL
Associated Press Writer

JERUSALEM

Israel on Friday urged the international community to threaten Iran with sanctions if it doesn't abandon its nuclear ambitions, following new threats from Tehran to block U.N. inspections of its atomic sites.

Israeli officials said they remain hopeful that diplomacy can end the crisis, but they warned a military strike led by others against Iranian nuclear facilities may be necessary.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said the Iranian regime should be presented with a clear choice: "Either they totally cease their nuclear weapons program or they endanger their relationships with the entire organized international community."

"We believe the combination of fanatical ideology together with nuclear weaponry is a combination that no thinking person can feel comfortable with," Regev added.

The comments came a day after France, Britain and Germany _ backed by the United States _ said that nuclear talks with Iran had reached a dead end after more than two years of acrimonious negotiations and the issue should be referred to the Security Council.

With the support of Russia and China uncertain, however, they refrained from calling on the 15-nation council to impose sanctions and said they remained open to more talks.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp., said Friday: "Obviously if Iran failed to comply, the Security Council would then consider sanctions." But he denied military action was being considered by Britain or the U.S.

Iran says its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed only at generating electricity, but the U.S., Israel and others say Tehran is seeking to develop atomic weapons.

Israeli officials think Tehran is closer to the "point of no return" in developing weapons than Western countries do, arguing that point is not when Iran might have a bomb, but when it might have the technology to produce the fissile component of nuclear warheads.

Israeli defense officials have said that once Iran resumes its enrichment of uranium, as it has announced it would do, it would be able to produce fissile materials in six to 12 months.

Other experts say Iran may be up to five years or more away from producing a nuclear weapon.

Israel considers Tehran to be its greatest threat. Recent statements by Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calling for Israel's destruction and Russia's plans to sell Iran missiles and other defense systems valued at more than $1 billion have only fueled those fears.

Last month, Israel's military chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, said he did not believe diplomatic pressure would put a halt to Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Still, Israeli officials have continued to say that international diplomatic pressure is the best way to end Iran's nuclear program, with military action considered only as a last resort. Last month, before his stroke, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Israel wouldn't lead the fight against the Islamic state's nuclear ambitions.

Israeli combat jets knocked out Iraq's unfinished nuclear reactor more than two decades ago in a lightning strike. But military experts have said a similar attack on Iran's nuclear project would be far more complex, because facilities are dispersed and some are hidden underground.

On Friday, Ran Cohena member of the Israeli parliament's foreign affairs and defense committee, said Israel "definitely is not considering military action because it would only encourage radical (Islamic) groups to increase their power."

But another committee member, Ephraim Sneh, said while Israel is not preparing to carry out a unilateral military strike, "it doesn't mean it's not feasible."

Asked about the possibility of an attack on Iran, the British foreign secretary said, "I promise you I've never had a single discussion with anybody in the American administration about even the possibility of military action."

"This can only be resolved by peaceful means. Nobody is talking about invading Iran or taking military action," Straw added.

Israel Urges Sanctions Against Iran (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/13/D8F3V3HG0.html)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 10:54:02 PM
ISRAEL: VATICAN-MUSSOLINI PACT TOUTED AS MODEL FOR JERUSALEM


Tel Aviv, 13 Jan. (AKI) - A 1929 accord between the Vatican and Fascist Italy granting 'special status' to several Rome churches could provide a model to resolve the dispute over Israel's control of Jerusalem, a former Israeli ambassador has suggested. Moshe Sasson, Israel's ambassador to Italy from 1973-77, described the Lateran Treaty signed by Benito Mussolini and the Vatican as "a historical precedent that is wonderfully suited to the issue of Jerusalem," in an editorial in Friday's edition of the Tel Aviv daily Haaretz.

Sasson argues that by seeking an arrangement similar to the Lateran Treaty, Israel would prevent the partitioning of Jerusalem while satisfying the followers of the world's main three monotheistic religions - Christianity, Islam and Judaism - who all consider the city holy.

The Lateran Treaty ended a dispute which began in 1871 when the then newly- constituted Kingdom of Italy took over Rome after centuries of Papal rule. In 1929 Italy granted a "special status under international guarantee" for five basilicas that belong to the Vatican, but which are situated outside the territory that demarcates the tiny state.


Sasson says Israel could declare unilaterally, by virtue of its sovereignity, that it is granting a special status to the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock Sanctuary on the Temple Mount, as well as to other places that are sacred to Judaism as well as those Christians cherish as holy.

Israel could grant "free passage to the holy places regardless of religion, gender or race," to anyone wanting to visit Temple Mount for example. Sasson argues that such a move would be welcomed by the international community ensuring that "Jerusalem would remain whole and not divided; each of the three montheistic religions would be soveriegn over the buildings that are sacred to it, would administer them and would be responsible for what happens inside them," he said.

Sasson admits that such a move would not necessarily win the approval of Arab governments who he says want to maintain the "supposedly 'religious aspect' of the Arab-Israeli conflict."

Still, a compromise solution could be achieved if Israel were to allow Arab governments to establish a small policing force to oversee sacred Islamic sites. This, Sasson argues, would help overcome the present problem whereby Israeli security forces responsible for law and order are seen to impart the "punishment of the other."

While the Lateran Treaty model might offer a solution to the dispute over the custodianship of religious sites, Sasson says Israel has another problem that needs tackling - Jerusalem's very large Arab population, which currently numbers 237,100.

The growth rate of the Arab population is currently double that of the city's Jewish community, a situation which will over the years result in the "capital of Israel" having mostly Arab inhabitants.

To remedy this situation, Sasson urges the Isralei government to implement policies that will "attract Israelis and Jewish immigrants to Jerusalem and to keep its Jewish inhabitants living there and prevent them from abandoning it."

Israel defines Jerusalem as its "eternal and undivided capital" a status not recognise by most nations who maintain their embassies in Tel Aviv. Palestinians say Arab East Jerusalem should be the capital of their future state.

ISRAEL: VATICAN-MUSSOLINI PACT TOUTED AS MODEL FOR JERUSALEM (http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.249021870&par=0)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 10:55:57 PM
'Israeli fences don't stop rockets'
Terror leader warns of onslaught against major Jewish cities
Posted: January 14, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Following is a WorldNetDaily exclusive interview with Abu Oudai, a leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group responsible for coordinating the organization's rocket network in the West Bank.

The Brigades is the military wing of the ruling Fatah party and is responsible for scores of suicide bombings, shootings and rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip. The group is particularly active in the West Bank, where Israel fears Palestinian terror organizations are stockpiling rockets with plans to shoot the deadly weapons at major Israeli cities in the near future.

With Arabic-English translation by Ali Waked.

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

WND: Hundreds of rockets have been fired from the Gaza Strip the past few years by Palestinian terror groups, aimed at nearby Jewish farming communities. After Israel carried out its Gaza withdrawal this past summer, there has been information the Palestinian groups are now stockpiling rockets in the West Bank, which is within reach of Israel's major population centers, including Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, in addition to the 200,000 or so Jews who live within the West Bank. Israel says a primitive rocket – the first ever from the West Bank – was launched by your group in Jenin three weeks ago. What kind of rocket capabilities do you currently have in the West Bank?

OUDAI: First I want to say that three weeks ago was not the first time we shot rockets from Jenin to the settlements of the Israeli enemy. It is the enemy who for the first time admitted that these rockets exist in the West Bank and that they were shot against Israeli targets. Israel published about that rocket after they realized the shooting of rockets is taking place repeatedly in the West Bank.

We believe that for the moment our capacities are very good and are permanently improving. We can reach any point inside Israel, but I will not mention what are the regions we are ready to shoot from.

WND: How many rockets has your group launched so far from the West Bank? And what are your plans in the near future as far as the regularity of launching.

OUDAI: We have launched six times and with the help of Allah we will launch these rockets regularly. There will be no calm, no ceasefire until the occupation leaves our land. I don't need to tell you that the aerial distance from Jenin to Netanya, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and other cities is not big without telling you what are all our plans concerning other parts of the West Bank.

WND: Are the rockets manufactured inside the West Bank or smuggled over from Gaza? Israel says most are made in the area and not smuggled after the Gaza withdrawal.

OUDAI: The rockets were transported from outside the West Bank. I am not surprised that the Israeli army claims differently because it is not the first time that it denies the real capacity of the Palestinian resistance. Do not forget that their arrival is a new failure of the Israeli army. With the help of Allah we succeeded to bring these rockets inside the West Bank. But it is true that we are working also on producing these rockets inside the West Bank.

Concerning what the Israeli army said about the rockets being primitive, the very near future will prove their capacity to kill and destroy and to beat the Israelis in the West Bank exactly like we did with these rockets in the Gaza Strip.

WND: Which West Bank towns can you currently strike with your rockets? Right now, can you reach Jerusalem or Tel Aviv?

OUDAI: We will reach every point where there is Israeli occupation on our land. We will shoot these rockets as long as Israeli tanks and aircraft are killing our people and yes this includes Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, but don't ask me where we shall shoot from next.

WND: When you talk about "our land," are you referring to the West Bank, or do you mean you will try to drive the Jews from all of Israel with your rockets?

OUDAI: Of course the whole thing [all of what you call Israel] is part of Palestine and we'll never give it up.

WND: Are your West Bank rockets the same as the Qassam rockets in Gaza that can go about three miles? I have heard about a new rocket, the Jenin-1.

OUDAI: For security reasons and for the safety of this process of transferring rockets from outside and the process of producing them I cannot give details. I can say that for the moment we have two series of rockets – Jenin and 2 and Arafat-1 and 2. The Jenin distance is 3.5 kilometers to 5 kilometers; Jenin 2 is 6 kilometers.

As for our Arafat rockets, I cannot give at this moment much details. All I can say is they will be very much improved in comparison with any other rocket of the Palestinian resistance. The Arafat rockets will prove two things: First, that they can reach every goal we want all over the enemy state. Secondly, it will prove to the Israelis that Arafat's spirit is still alive and that he is continuing to fight the Israelis and to hit them even after his disappearing.

WND: Your group and other terror organizations have credited Israel's security fence with frustrating your ability to carry out suicide bombings, basically because now you cannot get in to carry out the bombings. I assume the fence has no impact whatsoever on your ability to launch rockets.

OUDAI: Correct. An important goal of the rockets is to tell the Israelis that you have built a huge wall on which you spent billions of dollars but still we are hitting you with our rockets and reaching every target we want. This wall will not defend you from our rockets which have defeated your wall and all the security measures you have taken to prevent our attacks.

WND: Will the rockets replace suicide bombings, as some of Hamas' own published studies have predicted?

OUDAI: No, not at all. But the rockets give the Palestinian resistance more options in its struggle.

WND: Israel has threatened an unprecedented military response to rocket launchings from the West Bank. Do you take this threat into consideration?

OUDAI: So far Israel has used all its tools, tanks, aircraft, assassinations, everything it can use and we are still here and still fighting. We do not get excited from these Israeli threats. What can be this unprecedented reaction? They have already tried everything.

'Israeli fences don't stop rockets' (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48334)


Title: Iran says UN referral won't end its nuclear plans
Post by: Shammu on January 14, 2006, 10:58:15 PM
Iran says UN referral won't end its nuclear plans
Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:16 AM ET173

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will not be deflected from its right to develop nuclear technology by referral to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday.

"If they want to destroy the Iranian nation's rights by that course, they will not succeed," Ahmadinejad told a news conference when asked about European moves to refer Tehran to the world body over a suspected atomic weapons program.

Iran raised the stakes in the dispute this week by removing UN seals on equipment that purifies uranium, which can be used for power or, if highly enriched, in bombs.

The United States and the European Union's three biggest powers have said talks with Iran on the issue are at a dead end, and that they will ask the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency to refer the case to the Security Council.

Britain, Germany and France said this week that Iran had consistently breached its commitments and failed to show the world its nuclear activities were peaceful.

Tehran denies suggestions that it is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, and says it needs nuclear technology only to generate electricity.

Iran says UN referral won't end its nuclear plans (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-14T131631Z_01_FOR172289_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml)


Title: Bush: Iran aiming for nukes, Israel's destruction
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 12:45:09 AM
Bush: Iran aiming for nukes, Israel's destruction

U.S. President George Bush holds joint press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, warns: 'Iran trying to clandestinely develop nuclear weapon,' says Iran armed with nuclear weapons is 'step closer' to stated agenda of trying to destroy Israel

U.S. President George Bush, speaking at a Washington press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, said that Iran was secretly working to acquire nuclear weapons, and warned that Teheran was moving closer to its stated agenda of trying to destroy Israel.

"Iran armed with a nuclear weapon poses a great threat to the security of the world," said Bush.

He added: "Countries such as ours have a great obligation to step up, working together to send a message to the Iranians that their behavior, trying to clandestinely develop a nuclear weapon, or using the guise of a civilian nuclear program to attain a nuclear weapon, is unacceptable."

Bush's speech was carried live on the CNN news network.

He added: "The current president of Iran has announced that the destruction of Israel is an important part of their agenda. That is unacceptable. The development of a nuclear weapon is a step closer to that agenda."

"It is the world's interest that Iran not have a nuclear weapon," said Bush, adding that Iran must not "have capacity to blackmail free societies."

'Germany won't be intimidated by Iran'

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Germany "would not be intimidated by a country like Iran."

"To Germany, it is totally unacceptable, what Iran said recently, especially regarding Israel and the Holocaust. It is essential we try to persuade as many countries as we can to join us," she added.

The American president addressed the medical condition of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, saying: "Both of us care deeply about the health of Ariel Sharon, we wish him the very best."

Bush said that both he and the German chancellor "hope there will be two states living side by side there in peace."

The U.S. president, speaking about the threat of Islamist terrorism, said: "There's still an enemy that wants to do harm to the American people and to freedom. This enemy lurks... The threat is real."

Bush: Iran aiming for nukes, Israel's destruction (http://www.worthynews.com/news/ynetnews-com-Ext-Comp-ArticleLayout-CdaArticlePrintPreview-1,2506,L-3199937,00-html/)


Title: U.K.: No one talking of Iran invasion
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 12:47:28 AM
U.K.: No one talking of Iran invasion


Foreign Secretary Jack straw says Security Council may consider imposing sanctions on Iran if it fails to comply with demands over its nuclear program, but adds that 'issue could only be resolved by peaceful means.' Iran: We’ll end voluntary cooperation if referred to U.N.
Reuters

The United Nations Security Council may consider imposing sanctions on Iran if it fails to comply with demands over its nuclear program, but may look at other measures first, Britain said on Friday.

"I am not necessarily saying there will be a U.N. sanctions regime. That will be on the table," Jack Straw told BBC Radio after Britain, France and Germany called for an emergency meeting of the U.N. nuclear watchdog to discuss Iran's resumption of research into nuclear fuel.

"There are prior stages here, and there are plenty of examples where the Security Council has made what are called Chapter Seven resolutions ... imposing obligations on a member state without the resort to sanctions.

"Obviously if Iran failed to comply, the Security Council would then consider sanctions," Straw said.

'No one is talking about invading Iran'

The European Union's three biggest powers said on Thursday talks with Iran to curb its nuclear program were at an impasse and that Tehran should be hauled before the Security Council.

Iran responded on Friday saying it would end voluntary cooperation with the U.N. over its nuclear work if it was referred.

But as tensions escalated, Straw said the issue could "only be resolved by peaceful means."

He said he had never discussed the possibility of military action against Iran with anyone in the U.S. administration.

"No one is talking about invading Iran or taking military action against Iran," Straw added.

Straw said there was no categorical evidence Iran's nuclear program was a screen for developing lethal weapons but added his "strong suspicion" was that Tehran wanted a nuclear bomb.

U.K.: No one talking of Iran invasion (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3199826,00.html)


Title: No Israel on U.N. map
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 12:50:56 AM
No Israel on U.N. map

U.S. envoy complains to Annan, says map could suggest U.N. backs abolition of Israel
Reuters

U.S. Ambassador John Bolton has complained to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan about an annual U.N. event where a map of pre-1948 Palestine, an area that now comprises the state of Israel, is displayed.

"It was entirely inappropriate for this map to be used. It can be misconstrued to suggest that the United Nations tacitly supports the abolition of the state of Israel," Bolton said.

"Given that we now have a world leader pursuing nuclear weapons who is calling for the state of Israel to be 'wiped off the map,' the issue has even greater salience," he said in a January 3 letter, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters on Friday. The letter was first reported in the New York Sun.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who said in October the Jewish state should be "wiped off the map," has denied pursuing nuclear arms.

Annan at the time expressed dismay about the Iranian leader's comment and later canceled a planned trip to Tehran.

'Very unfortunate impression'

Bolton's letter complained about the symbolism of Annan attending the latest International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, held last November 29, along with General Assembly President Jan Eliasson and Russian Ambassador Andrei Denisov, the Security Council president for November.

He questioned whether the United Nations could promote the event when U.S. law prohibits funding such events. Washington's dues cover about a quarter of the regular U.N. budget.

Annan's office was preparing a response to the letter, U.N. chief spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

He said the secretary-general was grateful that Bolton and others had brought the matter to his attention and had raised the matter of the map with the General Assembly's Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People, which stages the annual event.

It was not Annan but the committee that decided in 1981 to display the pre-1948 map at the annual event, he said.

"This gives a very unfortunate impression that the United Nations favors replacing Israel by a single Palestinian state, which is not the case," he said, stressing that Annan regularly describes Israel as a full U.N. member and strongly disapproved of the Iranian president's comments.

The United Nations is a member of the quartet of international mediators pursuing a road map to Middle East peace along with the United States, European Union and Russia.

No Israel on U.N. map (http://www.worthynews.com/news/ynetnews-com-Ext-Comp-ArticleLayout-CdaArticlePrintPreview-1,2506,L-3200093,00-html/)

My note; I have said quite a few times, the UN, and EU are not to be trusted, with Israel.


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 01:46:22 PM
Iran to Hold Conference on the Holocaust

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer 59 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran said Sunday it would sponsor a conference to examine the scientific evidence supporting the Holocaust, an apparent next step in hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's campaign against
Israel and a move likely to deepen Tehran's international isolation.

Ahmadinejad already had called the Nazis' World War II slaughter of 6 million European Jews a myth and said the Jewish state should be wiped off the map or moved to Germany or the United States.

Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation, and Tehran further raised international concern last week when it resumed what it called "research" at its uranium enrichment facility.

The
International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. organization that monitors nuclear proliferation, said Iran was resuming small-scale nuclear enrichment, a process that can produce fuel for atomic bombs.

That, in turn, prompted Washington and its allies to renew their push to take Iran before the
U.N. Security Council for the possible imposition of sanctions.

The United States, its European allies and Japan believe Tehran is trying to build a nuclear weapon. Iran denies the charge and says its nuclear program is only for electricity generation.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi did not disclose where or when the Holocaust conference would be held, nor would he say who would attend or what had prompted Tehran to sponsor it.

On Saturday, however, Ahmadinejad urged the West to be sufficiently open-minded to allow a free international debate on the Holocaust. Asefi adopted that theme.

"It is a strange world. It is possible to discuss everything except the Holocaust. The Foreign Ministry plans to hold a conference on the scientific aspect of the issue to discuss and review its repercussions," Asefi told reporters.

Earlier this month, the Association of Muslim Journalists, a hard-line group, proposed holding a similar conference, but Asefi said he was not aware of the association's wishes. He said the conference he announced was planned and supported by the ministry.

Rep. Tom Lantos (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., a holocaust survivor who was born in Budapest, Hungary, has said he understood Iran was considering a conference that would call into question evidence that the Nazis conducted a mass murder of European Jews during World War II.

Israel and Iran had good relations until the 1979 Islamic revolution led by Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini deposed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Israel had backed the shah, apparently prompting Khomeini to term it the "Little Satan."

Ahmadinejad has adopted rhetoric reminiscent of Khomeini, seemingly trying to breathe life back into the waning revolutionary spirit in the country, whose residents are not traditionally anti-Jewish.

Before the revolution about 100,000 Jews lived in Iran, but three-fourths fled during the upheaval.

Ahmadinejad, who took office in August, caused an international outcry in October by calling Israel a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map."

Leaders around the world also condemned him after he called the Nazi slaughter of Jews during World War II a "myth." He later said that if the Holocaust did happen, then Israel should be moved to Germany or North America, rather than making Palestinians suffer by losing their land to atone for crimes committed by Europeans.

Since the Islamic revolution, Israel has considered Iran a primary and existential threat. As Tehran's nuclear program has moved forward, the Israelis — who have nuclear weapons but do not to admit possessing such an arsenal — have refused to rule out using military force to destroy the Iranian program.

Iran to Hold Conference on the Holocaust (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060115/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_holocaust;_ylt=AkEm5Z9B5wqUYdLWMnDzkS1vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--)


Title: Russian Expert Says Israel Likely to Bomb Iran in Spring
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 01:48:15 PM
Russian Expert Says Israel Likely to Bomb Iran in Spring

Created: 15.01.2006 12:58 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:58 MSK, 8 hours 35 minutes ago

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Israel could launch a missile attack on Iran in the upcoming spring, Director of the Russian Political Research Institute Sergei Markov was quoted by Interfax as saying Saturday.

“Israel is in the state of a bitter cold war with Iran and might become the first victim of a nuclear weapon attack: therefore, I deem it very likely that the Israeli Air Force could launch missile strikes on military, nuclear targets in Iran as early as this spring,” Markov told Interfax.

This move, however, would create serious problems for Israel, Markov said. “This would lead to a significant destabilization of the situation in the Middle East, including a dramatic increase in [terrorist] attacks by Islamists on Israel,” he said.

At the same time, the international community will be increasing pressure on Iran, Markov said. In particular, Iran might be subjected to economic sanctions, “which would at first be mild but would then grow tougher and tougher, up to an embargo on purchasing Iranian oil,” he said.

Russian Expert Says Israel Likely to Bomb Iran in Spring (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/01/15/irkutsk.shtml)


Title: UN Security Council powers meet on Iran atom crisis
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 11:45:12 PM
UN Security Council powers meet on Iran atom crisis

By Mark Heinrich Sun Jan 15, 6:12 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - The United States and
European Union hope to enlist Russian and Chinese support for robust diplomatic steps against
Iran over its contentious nuclear program when the
U.N. Security Council powers meet on Monday.

Iran's resumption of research that could be used for either civilian atomic energy or bombs has sparked a flurry of Western diplomacy in pursuit of a vote by the U.N. nuclear watchdog to refer Iran to the Council for possible sanctions.

Moscow, with a $1 billion stake building Iran's first atomic reactor, and Beijing, reliant on Iranian oil for its burgeoning economy, have so far blocked a consensus for referral within the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) board of governors.

But Russia warned Iran after it restarted fuel research last week that it could lose Moscow's support unless it suspended the work. China, however, said resorting to the Security Council might "complicate the issue," citing Iran's threat to hit back by halting snap U.N. inspections of its atomic plants.

Russian and Chinese receptiveness to an IAEA vote against Iran is crucial as both are veto-wielding permanent members of the Council, along with the United States, Britain and France.

Diplomats said the London meeting of permanent Council members and Germany was aimed at reaching a consensus before an emergency IAEA board meeting the West wants next month.

"There's some confidence that Russia is increasingly leaning toward the EU3-U.S. position and will not block referral," said a diplomat with the EU trio of Germany, France and Britain that last week called off dragging dialogue with Iran.

But he said China still looked more difficult to persuade.

If the Western powers found Russia and China ready to back referral, the talks could yield a date for an IAEA board meeting well ahead of its next scheduled session on March 6.

SUSPICION

Iran says its nuclear research and development project is meant solely to feed an electricity-needy economy. Years of IAEA investigations have found no firm evidence to the contrary.

But Iran's concealment of nuclear activities for almost 20 years until it was disclosed by dissident exiles in 2002, a spotty record of cooperation with the IAEA since, and calls for wiping out Israel have fired Western resolve to rein in Tehran.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei was quoted as saying in a Newsweek magazine interview he could not exclude the possibility Iran might be harboring a secret nuclear arms program distinct from activities known to his agency.

"If they have the nuclear material and they have a parallel weaponization program along the way, they are really not very far -- a few months -- from a weapon," he said.

"We still need to assure ourselves through access to documents, individuals locations that we have seen all that we ought to see and that there is nothing fishy, if you like, about the program," ElBaradei added.

Asked if Iran was buying time to build a bomb, he replied: "That's why I said we are coming to the litmus test in the next few weeks."

Western officials say Iran stepped over the "red line" last week by stripping IAEA seals from equipment that purifies uranium, a key component in nuclear power or, if enriched to a higher level, in weaponry.

OIL THREAT

A German government official told reporters ahead of Chancellor Angela Merkel's trip to Moscow on Monday that the EU3 was amenable to reviving its talks with Iran -- but only if it once again suspended its fuel development program.

An EU3 diplomat in Berlin said Merkel hoped to get an assurance from Russian President
Vladimir Putin that Moscow would not obstruct Security Council referral and would form a common front with the EU and United States in handling Iran.

But OPEC giant Iran zeroed in on the weakness of Western tough talk by saying any crackdown could drive up world oil prices, which would batter industrialized economies.

Iran is the world's fourth largest exporter of crude oil.

Tehran also said only diplomacy, not threats of Council referral, could defuse its standoff with the West.

U.S. Republican and Democratic senators said Washington may ultimately have to undertake a military strike to deter Iran.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said last week using force against Iran was not an option "at this point."

UN Security Council powers meet on Iran atom crisis (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060115/wl_nm/nuclear_iran_dc_94;_ylt=AmV1pMSXkAJBSummE0gcfLNSw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)


Title: Iran Notches Up Anti-Israel Campaign
Post by: Shammu on January 15, 2006, 11:48:56 PM
Iran Notches Up Anti-Israel Campaign

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer Sun Jan 15, 4:17 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran announced plans Sunday for a conference to examine evidence for the Holocaust, a new step in hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's campaign against Israel — one that was likely to deepen Tehran's international isolation.

Ahmadinejad already called the Nazis' World War II slaughter of European Jews a "myth" and said the Jewish state should be wiped off the map or moved to Germany or the United States.

Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation, and it wasn't clear who would be willing to attend an Iranian-sponsored Holocaust conference.

Late last year, however, the leader of Egypt's main Islamic opposition group joined Ahmadinejad in characterizing the Holocaust as a "myth" and lambasted Western governments for criticizing those who dispute the Jewish genocide happened.

"Western democracies have slammed all those who don't see eye to eye with the Zionists regarding the myth of the Holocaust," Muslim Brotherhood chief Mohammed Mahdi Akef wrote on the group's Web site.

Tehran already had further raised international concern about its nuclear program last week when it resumed what it called "research" at its uranium enrichment facility.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. organization that monitors nuclear proliferation, said Iran was resuming small-scale nuclear enrichment, a process that can produce fuel for atomic bombs.

That, in turn, prompted Washington and its allies to renew their push to take Iran before the U.N. Security Council for the possible sanctions.

The United States, its European allies and Japan believe Tehran is trying to build a nuclear weapon. Iran denies the charge and says its nuclear program is only for electricity generation.

In calling for penalties against Iran's "irresponsible" behavior, Republican Sen. Trent Lott (news, bio, voting record) pointed to Tehran's plans for the Holocaust conference.

"At the minimum, we should go to the U.N. Security Council and we should impose economic sanctions unless there is some dramatic change in the Iranian position," he said on CNN's "Late Edition."

Rep. Tom Lantos (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., a Holocaust survivor who was born in Budapest, Hungary, also has said he understood Iran was considering a conference that would call into question evidence that the Nazis conducted a mass murder of European Jews during World War II.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi did not disclose where or when the Holocaust conference would be held, nor would he say who would attend or what had prompted Tehran to sponsor it.

On Saturday, however, Ahmadinejad urged the West to be sufficiently open-minded to allow a free international debate on the Holocaust. Asefi adopted that theme.

"It is a strange world. It is possible to discuss everything except the Holocaust. The Foreign Ministry plans to hold a conference on the scientific aspect of the issue to discuss and review its repercussions," Asefi told reporters.

Earlier this month, the Association of Muslim Journalists, a hard-line group, proposed holding a similar conference, but Asefi said he was not aware of the association's wishes. He said the conference he announced was planned and supported by the ministry.

Israel and Iran had good relations until the 1979 Islamic revolution, lead by Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, deposed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Israel had backed the shah, apparently prompting Khomeini to term it the "Little Satan."

Ahmadinejad has adopted rhetoric reminiscent of Khomeini, seemingly trying to breath life back into the waning revolutionary spirit in the country, whose residents are not traditionally anti-Jewish.

Before the revolution about 100,000 Jews lived in Iran, but three-fourths fled during the upheaval.

Ahmadinejad, who took office in August, caused an international outcry in October by calling Israel a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map."

Leaders around the world also condemned him after he called the Nazi slaughter of Jews during World War II a "myth." He later said that if the Holocaust did happen, then Israel should be moved to Germany or North America, rather than making Palestinians suffer by losing their land to atone for crimes committed by Europeans.

Since the Islamic revolution, Israel has considered Iran a primary and existential threat. As Tehran's nuclear program has moved forward, the Israelis — who have nuclear weapons but do not to admit possessing such an arsenal — have refused to rule out using military force to destroy the Iranian program.

Iran Notches Up Anti-Israel Campaign (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060115/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_holocaust_6;_ylt=Am0UzSgnuTXrI63_4z.L6IVSw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 15, 2006, 11:53:52 PM
Every time I hear the name President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or see his picture all I can think of is Satan himself. I am not saying this is he but he sure is his advocate.




Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 16, 2006, 12:15:13 AM
Every time I hear the name President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or see his picture all I can think of is Satan himself. I am not saying this is he but he sure is his advocate.



AMEN P.R. ;D


Title: Bush: Israel threatened by Iran
Post by: Shammu on January 16, 2006, 12:17:18 AM
Jan. 15, 2006 6:50
Bush: Israel threatened by Iran
By NATHAN GUTTMAN

US President George Bush warned Friday that if Iran goes forward with its nuclear program, it might pose a "grave threat to the security of the world." After a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House, Bush voiced his concern over Iran's decision to pursue uranium enrichment and used the same language he used before launching the American attack against Iraq.

The US president stressed that Israel was in most danger from Iran's nuclear developments. When referring to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call to "wipe Israel off the map," Bush said that "the development of a nuclear weapon, it seems to me, would make them a step closer to achieving that objective."

Merkel, in her first visit to the US since elected to lead Germany, agreed with the tough line presented by the US concerning Iran, and joined the call for referring the Iranian nuclear issue to the UN Security Council.

The US has already gained the support of the EU for the referral, and Russia has tended to support this move as well. US diplomacy is focused now on China, who is a permanent member of the Security Council and holds the right to veto any decision brought to the forum. Iran supplies China with over 300,000 barrels of oil a day, making it a valuable contributor to the Chinese economy.

In his public appearance Friday, Bush was careful not to specify what moves he expected the Security Council to take against Iran, leaving that decision to the members themselves. "I'm not going to prejudge what the United Nations Security Council should do," Bush said, "but I recognize that it's logical that a country which has rejected diplomatic entreaties be sent to the United Nations Security Council."

Over the past week the US has been conducting intense diplomatic negotiations with its European allies, mapping out the possible scenarios for a Security Council discussion on Iran. It is clear to the US that the initial stage will include a call to resume inspections, but will probably fall short of mentioning sanctions. These may only be introduced in a second round, after Iran is given time to respond to the demands it was presented.

Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad on Saturday shrugged off threats of UN sanctions from Washington and its European allies, saying he would not be bullied because there was no legal basis to forbid Teheran from conducting nuclear research.

In a ringing defense of Iran's resumption Tuesday of research at its nuclear enrichment facility at Natanz, Ahmadinejad said Teheran had not violated the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which he said allowed signatories to produce nuclear fuel. The move drew fierce international condemnation and threats to seek UN sanctions.

"The time of using language of bullying and coercion... is over," Ahmadinejad told a packed news conference in the capital. "There is no evidence to prove Iran's diversion (toward nuclear weapons)."

What's more, Ahmadinejad said, Iran has no use for nuclear weapons. "You can use nuclear technology in several ways, and we want to do so peacefully," he said, claiming that such weaponry violated the tenets of Islam.

Iran insists its program is intended only for electricity generation; the US and other countries fear the explanation is a cover for building a nuclear bomb.

The news conference marked the second day of a tough public relations offensive by Teheran. On Friday, Iran threatened to end surprise inspections by and cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN nuclear watchdog, if it is referred to the Security Council for possible imposition of sanctions.

"The world public opinion knows that Iran has not violated the Nonproliferation Treaty," Ahmadinejad said. "There are no restrictions for nuclear research activities under the NPT protocol, and Iran has not accepted any obligation (not to carry out research). How is it possible to prevent the scientific development of a nation?"

Ahmadinejad said there was no reason Iran should not develop its nuclear technology and charged that the threats of sanctions and Security Council action were the true dangers to world stability, not Iran's nuclear program.

"We don't trust their (Western countries) sincerity at all. It's certain for us that they don't want the Iranian nation to achieve scientific progress. They openly say 'we are opposed to (Iran's nuclear) research,'" Ahmadinejad said. "On what basis do you say this? Isn't this a medieval mentality?

"I'm recommending these countries not isolate themselves more among the people of the world. Resorting to the language of coercion is over."

Ahmadinejad said Iran was the victim of "propaganda" and that the presence of IAEA surveillance equipment was proof Iran had nothing to hide.

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Title: Peres: We'll aim to set final borders
Post by: Shammu on January 16, 2006, 02:29:20 AM
We'll aim to set final borders
09:25 , 01.14.06

In a Tel Aviv speech, Peres says Kadima will attempt to reach final-status peace agreement, adds Israel needs a strong political Center to make tough decisions
Moran Zelikovich

The next government will attempt to strike a final-status peace deal with the Palestinians in order to set Israel's permanent borders and put an end to terror, Knesset Member Shimon Peres said in a business convention in Tel Aviv Friday.

"I spoke now with Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and we agreed on one major thing, to try and set final borders in the upcoming term, a situation that would put an end to the double conflict with the Palestinians on the one hand and with terrorism on the other hand," Peres said.

"The Middle East is approaching a fork in the road – either becoming fanatical-Shiite-terrorist or modern and sane," Peres said. "Arik (Prime Minister Ariel Sharon) surprised me in a positive way, he said 'we're both no longer little kids and four years is plenty of time.' With Ehud (Olmert) I found an even bigger drive to reach a peace deal."

Referring to the prime minister's decision to establish Kadima, Peres said "Sharon's departure from the Likud is no less important than Israel's exit from Gaza. That's why I also took that step. As you know, before I made my decision I held thorough talks with Arik, who I wish a complete recovery."

Peres also spoke about Israel's political arena and said only a strong Center could bring peace.

"We must have a political spine that will allow for the implementation of decisions," he said. "If the political situation would have remained the way it is now, we would be going nowhere."

"In recent years a situation emerged where radical rightist, radical leftist and anti-religious parties became powerful," Peres added. "We need a renewed political Center so we can take decisions…today there's an opportunity to create a political Center not in accordance with marginal whims."

'No need to divide Jerusalem'

Turning his attention to the possibility Hamas will win the upcoming Palestinian elections, Peres repeated Israel's position rejecting talks with the Islamic terror group.

"If Hamas is elected it would be a Palestinian problem, not our problem," he said. "We won't sit down to the negotiating table with an organization that will come with bombs and the call to exterminate the people of Israel. I don't see anyone in the world assisting the Palestinians under such circumstances."

"If Hamas is elected chaos will ensue and then the Palestinians will have to think harder," he said.

Regarding talk about dividing Jerusalem as part of a future peace deal, Peres said "the controversy over Jerusalem can be resolved even without dividing it."

"I'm not at all convinced Jerusalem should be divided," he said. "In my view, any situation can be resolved through creative ideas."

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Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: twobombs on January 16, 2006, 08:07:01 AM
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FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Israel withdrawal
from West Bank?

Many regard planned eviction of Jews as start of massive future evacuation
Posted: January 16, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

HEBRON, Israel – In what some here are calling the beginning of a possible large-scale withdrawal from the West Bank, Israeli forces are currently preparing to evict Jews from their homes in select area neighborhoods including the biblical city of Hebron, considered the oldest Jewish community in the world.

Clashes broke out here yesterday between Jewish protesters and hundreds of policemen and Israeli Defense Forces soldiers deployed in Hebron ahead of the announced eviction of eleven families from a marketplace near the entrance to the city.

The skirmishes began after a protest organized by community leaders was at the last minute declared illegal by Israel's Police Authority. Rioters reportedly threw eggs and paint at security forces and yelled anti-withdrawal slogans. There were some reports of soldiers using excessive force against the protesters.

Protest leaders last week had obtained the necessary permits to hold the rally, but yesterday afternoon, after hundreds of Israelis had already amassed, police told the crowd the gathering had to be called off.

"People came to express their rights and protest," said Mikey Rosenfeld, a Jerusalem resident who attended the gathering. "It was irresponsible of the authorities to call off the rally right as it was beginning. They knew the atmosphere was explosive, and they basically ignited it themselves with the last minute declaration."

Israel earlier this month issued eviction notices to the resident's of Hebron's Mitspe Shalhevet, a marketplace built in 1929 after Arab riots temporarily forced Jews from the area. For a period of over 30 years, a sign was posted on the market boasting in Arabic the structure was built on stolen Jewish property.

Arab families had moved into the market but were asked to leave by the IDF after a series of clashes broke out in the mid-1990s. Then in 2001, Jewish families took up occupancy in the market to strengthen Jewish ties to the area after a Palestinian sniper murdered a Jewish infant nearby.

Even though the original owners of the property recently signed over the market to Hebron's Jewish community, Israel considers the structure, in which eleven families currently reside, an illegal outpost.

Jews lived in Hebron – home to the Tomb of the Patriarchs, believed to be the resting place of biblical patriarchs and matriarchs – almost continuously for over 2,500 years. There are accounts of the trials of the city's Jewish community throughout the Byzantine, Arab, Mameluke and Ottoman periods.

In 1929, as a result of an Arab pogrom in which 67 Jews were murdered, the entire Jewish community fled the city, with Hebron becoming temporarily devoid of Jews.

The Jews re-established their presence in Hebron after the West Bank was recaptured in the 1967 Six Day War, with some prime ministers allowing Jewish construction in the city, and others calling it off.

Hebron residents believe evacuation of the marketplace is imminent. The 11 families had until yesterday to leave on their own accord or they may be forcibly removed, according to the eviction notices obtained by WND, which were worded similarly to eviction documents distributed to Jews living in the Gaza Strip just before their withdrawal from the area.

Hebron is not the only Jewish city facing evacuations. In what some commentators here are calling the start of a larger withdrawal from the West Bank, Israel has announced several other area communities now face evacuation, including nine homes in the Binyamin community of Amona, a home in the large Gush Etzion block, and three hilltop outposts in northern Samaria.

Also, Israel is now debating closing off the main Jewish highway in the West Bank to Jewish traffic, rerouting the major commuter artery for the area's roughly 200,000 Jews to a series of roads that run dozens of miles away from West Bank Jewish communities. The highway was constructed in the early 1990s to ease traffic for Arab and Jewish commuters, and to make it safer for Jews to travel throughout the West Bank by bypassing major Arab cities from which snipers had fired on Jewish vehicles.

Moshe Jacobs, a West Bank doctor who commutes during the week to his office in Jerusalem, told WND, "Now I am going to have to drive over 15 miles out of the way closer to major Arab cities to get to work. There is no reason in the world for this road to close. The only thing it will accomplish is make our lives uncomfortable and more dangerous."

Sara Frankel, a resident of the West Bank town of Eli, said, "Before Israel evacuated Gaza, it took steps just like this to make life harder and conditions unsafe for the Gaza Jews by closing roads and taking away protection. If they close the highway it would be a clear step in the direction of a future forced evacuation."

Indeed, just prior to the Gaza withdrawal, the Israeli army rerouted Jewish traffic, closed several roads and began removing army outposts from Jewish communities.

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Several years before the withdrawal, residents of an entire Gaza Jewish community, Nitzarim, were banned from driving their vehicles on the only access road that led to their town. Instead, Nitzarim residents had to take hourly shuttles into their community provided by the IDF.

Last month, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon announced he is leaving the ruling Likud Party he helped found to start his own "centrist" party, Kadima, prompting new elections that will be held in March. The new party was widely regarded as a bid to carry out further Israeli withdrawals after Sharon drew the ire of senior Likud figures for his decision to evacuate Jews from Gaza.

Multiple Kadima members have stated the new party is looking to change Israel's borders. Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who is filling in for Sharon as head-of-state following the Israeli leader's massive stroke two weeks ago, has expressed approval of West Bank withdrawals and has made statements to reporters about the possibility of vacating some parts of Jerusalem.

Olmert, currently leading in a series of national polls for the figure most likely to win in the upcoming elections, was the first Sharon deputy to go public with the Gaza-withdrawal plan.

The West Bank is considered landlocked territory not officially recognized as part of any country. Israel calls the land "disputed." The United Nations claims the West Bank is "occupied" by Israel, which maintains overall control of most of the area while the Palestinian Authority has jurisdiction in about 40 percent. The Palestinians claim a population of roughly 2.4 million, but new demographic studies show the numbers are likely inflated. The actual Palestinian population could be up to 1 million less.

The territory remained under Jordanian rule from 1948 until Israel captured the West Bank in 1967 after Jordan's King Hussein ignored Israeli pleas for his country to stay out of the Six Day War. Most countries rejected Jordan's initial claim on the area, which it formally renounced in 1988.

The West Bank borders most of Israel's major cities, including Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Military strategists have long estimated Israel must maintain the West Bank to defend its borders from any ground invasion.

Many villages in the West Bank, which Israelis commonly reefer to as the "biblical heartland," are mentioned throughout the Old Testament.

The Book of Genesis says Abraham entered Israel at Shechem (Nablus) and received God's promise of land for his offspring. He was later buried in Hebron.

The nearby town of Beit El, anciently called Bethel meaning "house of God," is where Scripture says the patriarch Jacob slept on a stone pillow and dreamed of angels ascending and descending a stairway to heaven. In that dream, God spoke directly to Jacob and reaffirmed the promise of territory.

And in Exodus, the holy tabernacle rested in Shilo, believed to be the first area the ancient Israelites settled after fleeing Egypt.

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Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 16, 2006, 02:10:42 PM
Political `big Bang' Is Shaking Israel

By MARCUS ELIASON, Associated Press Writer Sun Jan 15, 2:39 PM ET

JERUSALEM -
Ariel Sharon is still in a coma. So how do Israelis feel about it? An opinion poll in Yediot Ahronot, Israel's largest newspaper, is instructive.

"Indifference" — 19 percent; "fear and foreboding" — 18 percent; "sorrow" — 63 percent.

The mood of resignation, seemingly deepened by the icy winds and rain-sodden skies of the Mediterranean winter, reflects an overwhelming conviction that Sharon's condition — "critical but stable" after a tracheotomy Sunday to ease his breathing — means he won't be back as prime minister.

Life is getting back to normal. Sort of.

In the 11 days since Sharon was struck down, Israel's institutions and democracy have smoothly weathered their worst crisis since the 1995 assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. But on the political front, the country has witnessed a string of stunning upheavals.

What Israelis call "the big bang" started even before Sharon's stroke Jan. 4, when the opposition Labor Party voted out its veteran leader, Shimon Peres, and replaced him with Amir Peretz, a trade union boss with no experience in government.

Twelve days later, on Nov. 21, Sharon made his big move, bolting the Likud Party to form a new one at the center of the political spectrum. He called it Kadima (Forward).

The turmoil he unleashed deepened dramatically when he suffered his massive stroke. The speculation was that Kadima would collapse without him. Yet Friday's poll of 501 people by the Dahaf agency indicated Kadima could win 42 seats in March elections for the 120-member parliament. Likud and Labor were given 17 and 13 seats, respectively.

If that breakdown holds up until the real vote, it would mean that for the first time, Israel's government was not headed by either dovish Labor or hawkish Likud.

But because no party has ever won an outright majority — and neither will Kadima, according to the polls — Israel has always had coalition governments, which is why the smaller political bangs of recent days matter.

In Israel's system of proportional representation, a party offers a list of candidates. The more votes it gets, the more candidates enter the Knesset, or parliament, and the better its chances become of joining the coalition.

Shinui, a secular middle-class party whose impressive 15 seats in the 2003 election catapulted it into Sharon's government, has plummeted in the polls, and last week was thoroughly scrambled by a vote to set its election list. Shinui's 167-member council dumped party founder Avraham Poraz from the No. 2 slot, and he and four other Shinui lawmakers, including party leader Joseph Lapid, walked out.

Likud, the National Religious Party and Hadash, an Arab-Jewish communist party, also spurned some big names for new faces.

Jerusalem Post analyst Anshel Pfeffer wrote that it "was taking things too far, even for a democracy." But it could also be taken as a generational shift, from the old guard represented by Peres and Sharon to younger men.

Jews at prayer on the weekend might have felt echoes of the present in the reading from the Old Testament — the last two chapters of Genesis, in which the dying Jewish patriarch, Jacob, divides the land of Israel among his sons who will come to lead the Twelve Tribes.

Sharon has never indicated any preference for a successor, and his temporary replacement, Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, has been careful not to claim the top job, even refraining from moving into Sharon's office. But the idea of putting the comatose Sharon's name on the top of Kadima's list was quickly and widely dismissed as being in bad taste.

On Sunday, Olmert presided over the Cabinet's first major decision since Sharon's illness: to allow Arabs in Jerusalem to vote in the Jan. 25 Palestinian election. Israel had resisted at first, fearing candidates of Hamas, the Islamic group sworn to destroy Israel, would bring their election campaign to Arab areas of the city.

Meanwhile, a debate blew up over whether the Israeli media's treatment of the Sharon story was at times overly sentimental, even mawkish.

Not so, Amnon Dankner, editor in chief of the mass circulation Maariv, said Sunday.

The story of a storied soldier and leader who in his old age upended his life's work, giving up the
Gaza Strip, uprooting its Jewish settlers and accepting the idea of Palestinian statehood, "gives it dimensions of Shakespearean tragedy," Dankner wrote.

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Title: Iran Notches Up Anti-Israel Campaign
Post by: Shammu on January 16, 2006, 02:14:04 PM
Iran Notches Up Anti-Israel Campaign

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer Sun Jan 15, 4:17 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran announced plans Sunday for a conference to examine evidence for the Holocaust, a new step in hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's campaign against Israel — one that was likely to deepen Tehran's international isolation.

Ahmadinejad already called the Nazis' World War II slaughter of European Jews a "myth" and said the Jewish state should be wiped off the map or moved to Germany or the United States.

Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation, and it wasn't clear who would be willing to attend an Iranian-sponsored Holocaust conference.

Late last year, however, the leader of Egypt's main Islamic opposition group joined Ahmadinejad in characterizing the Holocaust as a "myth" and lambasted Western governments for criticizing those who dispute the Jewish genocide happened.

"Western democracies have slammed all those who don't see eye to eye with the Zionists regarding the myth of the Holocaust," Muslim Brotherhood chief Mohammed Mahdi Akef wrote on the group's Web site.

Tehran already had further raised international concern about its nuclear program last week when it resumed what it called "research" at its uranium enrichment facility.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. organization that monitors nuclear proliferation, said Iran was resuming small-scale nuclear enrichment, a process that can produce fuel for atomic bombs.

That, in turn, prompted Washington and its allies to renew their push to take Iran before the U.N. Security Council for the possible sanctions.

The United States, its European allies and Japan believe Tehran is trying to build a nuclear weapon. Iran denies the charge and says its nuclear program is only for electricity generation.

In calling for penalties against Iran's "irresponsible" behavior, Republican Sen. Trent Lott (news, bio, voting record) pointed to Tehran's plans for the Holocaust conference.

"At the minimum, we should go to the U.N. Security Council and we should impose economic sanctions unless there is some dramatic change in the Iranian position," he said on CNN's "Late Edition."

Rep. Tom Lantos (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., a Holocaust survivor who was born in Budapest, Hungary, also has said he understood Iran was considering a conference that would call into question evidence that the Nazis conducted a mass murder of European Jews during World War II.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi did not disclose where or when the Holocaust conference would be held, nor would he say who would attend or what had prompted Tehran to sponsor it.

On Saturday, however, Ahmadinejad urged the West to be sufficiently open-minded to allow a free international debate on the Holocaust. Asefi adopted that theme.

"It is a strange world. It is possible to discuss everything except the Holocaust. The Foreign Ministry plans to hold a conference on the scientific aspect of the issue to discuss and review its repercussions," Asefi told reporters.

Earlier this month, the Association of Muslim Journalists, a hard-line group, proposed holding a similar conference, but Asefi said he was not aware of the association's wishes. He said the conference he announced was planned and supported by the ministry.

Israel and Iran had good relations until the 1979 Islamic revolution, lead by Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, deposed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Israel had backed the shah, apparently prompting Khomeini to term it the "Little Satan."

Ahmadinejad has adopted rhetoric reminiscent of Khomeini, seemingly trying to breath life back into the waning revolutionary spirit in the country, whose residents are not traditionally anti-Jewish.

Before the revolution about 100,000 Jews lived in Iran, but three-fourths fled during the upheaval.

Ahmadinejad, who took office in August, caused an international outcry in October by calling Israel a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map."

Leaders around the world also condemned him after he called the Nazi slaughter of Jews during World War II a "myth." He later said that if the Holocaust did happen, then Israel should be moved to Germany or North America, rather than making Palestinians suffer by losing their land to atone for crimes committed by Europeans.

Since the Islamic revolution, Israel has considered Iran a primary and existential threat. As Tehran's nuclear program has moved forward, the Israelis — who have nuclear weapons but do not to admit possessing such an arsenal — have refused to rule out using military force to destroy the Iranian program.

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Title: Mideast Adjusts Without Arafat, Sharon
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 01:01:56 AM
Mideast Adjusts Without Arafat, Sharon

By STEVEN GUTKIN, Associated Press Writer Mon Jan 16, 4:03 AM ET

JERUSALEM - Both Yasser Arafat and Ariel Sharon did the unthinkable: Arafat recognized Israel's existence and Sharon gave up the Gaza Strip. With Arafat dead and Sharon felled by a stroke, Palestinians and Israelis are having to adjust to life without larger-than-life leaders.

"Israel, like the Palestinians, is witnessing no more icons ... no more warriors," said Mahdi Abdul-Hadi, the director of Passia, a Palestinian think tank.

For the Palestinians, the loss of their longtime leader just over a year ago has coincided with an alarming slide into chaos, though some argue it is giving Palestinian society more democracy.

For Israel, Sharon's likely incapacitation could endanger his unfinished mission of drawing Israel's final borders, especially if his political heirs lack the strength to uproot Jewish settlers from the
West Bank.

Born a year apart, both Arafat and Sharon changed history in ways that many people see as irreversible: Arafat by recognizing Israel in 1993, laying the groundwork for eventual Palestinian statehood. Sharon by withdrawing from Gaza and building a barrier in the West Bank, effectively killing the dream of a Greater Israel incorporating captured Arab lands.

To be sure, Arafat and Sharon despised each other, and they had little in common during their intertwined three decades on the Middle Eastern stage. Some have argued that Arafat squandered a great historical opportunity, while Sharon was in the process of seizing one.

Arafat died on Nov. 11, 2004, at a low point — hamstrung by cronyism and under siege by Israel, which accused him of being behind a wave of suicide bombings.

Sharon's stroke came at the 77-year-old's political peak, having successfully pulled off the Gaza withdrawal and founded a new centrist party that looks poised to win elections March 28.

It was a big turnaround for Sharon, who had been the godfather of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. It also offset his ouster as defense minister after his 1982 invasion of Lebanon ended in disgrace, with Sharon accused of failing to prevent massacres at Palestinian refugee camps.

Sharon also had a shining hour as a general in the 1973 Yom Kippur war, when he was widely credited with turning the fight in Israel's favor, and he won praise for his steadfast toughness in dealing with the Palestinians.

On the other side, Arafat was almost impossible to separate from the Palestinian national cause, his face framed by a trademark checkered headdress shaped to resemble the map of Palestine.

He was condemned for airliner hijackings and the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Summer Olympics. But he also shared the Nobel Peace Prize with the late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and then Foreign Minister Shimon Peres for signing the peace deal recognizing Israel.

Some Israelis and Palestinians wince at the idea of drawing any comparison between Sharon and Arafat. Each is widely hated by the other side as a terrorist or a war criminal. But no one can deny the drama each brought to the scene and the adoring following they attracted.

Arafat's funeral provoked a huge outpouring of grief, and Sharon's stroke has plunged Israelis into a somber mood, with many scarcely able to imagine life without him.

"Each hour we are sitting with the radio and we are praying," said Yehuda Halili, standing outside Sharon's hospital with his wife, three daughters and a homemade get well sign. "From the beginning, he has represented the Jewish people."

Some argue the great symbolism attached to Arafat, the revolutionary, and Sharon, the warrior, made Mideast peacemaking harder.

"A strong argument can be made that if you remove these people with emotional baggage that they carry for the other side, the chances of a resolution becomes easier," said Daoud Kuttab, director of the Institute of Modern Media at Jerusalem's Al-Quds University.

Nonsense, says Hirsh Goodman, an Israeli political analyst and veteran journalist.

The chaos enveloping the West Bank and Gaza — with gangs of gunmen shooting up public buildings, kidnapping foreigners and firing rockets into Israel — precludes a return to peace talks "because there's nobody on the Palestinian side that the Israelis feel can deliver any cogent agreement," Goodman said.

Many Palestinians still hope Arafat's businesslike successor, Mahmoud Abbas, can reverse the decline, but wonder if he has the clout and charisma to do that. His Fatah Party is struggling to hold back the militant group Hamas in Palestinian parliamentary elections Jan. 25.

When Sharon appeared in public, Israelis often greeted him with chants of "Arik, King of Israel," affectionately calling out his nickname. Former Israeli peace negotiator Amos Guiora doubts Sharon's political successors will ever be embraced as warmly.

But that may not be such a bad thing for democracy, he said, because ordinary leaders have to bring in more people to make decisions.

Still, he said, "We are a people who need a father. Now we are a little bit fatherless."

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Title: Egypt on Iran: We will not accept a new nuclear power
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 01:08:25 AM
Last update - 06:19 17/01/2006            
Egypt on Iran: We will not accept a new nuclear power
By Yossi Melman and Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondents and Reuters

Egypt on Monday said it supported using nuclear technology for peaceful purposes but rejected the emergence of a nuclear military power in the region, in its first official reaction to the standoff over Iran's nuclear program.

"All countries should adhere to their commitments in a way to allow the international community to be sure of the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program, as we do not accept the emergence of a nuclear military power," Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said in a statement.

Aboul Gheit said Egypt was "closely watching" the development of the Iranian nuclear issue "out of its absolute keenness to support all the efforts aimed at consolidating the nuclear nonproliferation (policy) not only at the regional level but all over the world."

He said Egypt believes dialogue is the best way to solve the crisis.

UN Security Council members meet
Key members of the UN Security Council agreed Monday that Iran must fully suspend its nuclear program, but came to no agreement on whether to refer the dispute for action by the council. Russian President Vladimir Putin held out hope for a compromise that could avoid such action, and Iran's envoy to Moscow welcomed his proposal.

At a seven-hour meeting in London, China, Russia, France, Germany, America and Britain expressed "serious concerns" about Iran's decision last week to resume research on nuclear fuel and break the UN seals at its main uranium enrichment plant, Britain's Foreign Office said.

"There was agreement on the importance of Iran returning to the full suspension and negotiating process," a Foreign Office spokesman said, speaking on condition of anonymity in keeping with government policy.

Britain, France, Germany and America have been pushing for a referral since the Europeans declared last week that talks with Tehran had reached a dead end. Russia, which is deeply involved in building Iranian reactors for power generation, and China - heavily dependent on Iranian oil to power its booming economy - have been wary of the idea.

China has suggested that bringing Iran before the Security Council, which has the power to impose sanctions, would worsen tensions. Iran says it will cease cooperating with the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog if it is referred to the council.

Putin suggested there might still be hope of avoiding that path.

He said after meeting German chancellor Angela Merkel in Moscow that Iran has not ruled out conducting its uranium enrichment in Russia, which would allow for close oversight. The proposal, also floated last year, would guarantee uranium would be enriched enough to power nuclear energy plants, but not enough to build weapons.

"We have heard various opinions from our Iranian partners on that issue. One of them has come from the Foreign Ministry - our partners told us they did not exclude the implementation of our proposal," Putin said. "In any case, it's necessary to work carefully and avoid any erroneous moves."

Iran's ambassador to Moscow praised the idea.

"We consider it constructive and are carefully studying it. This is a good initiative to resolve the situation. We believe that Iran and Russia should find a way out of this jointly," Gholamreza Ansari said in comments translated into Russian and shown on state Channel One television.

Speaking while the London meeting was still under way, Putin said his proposal didn't mean Russia's strategy differed from the one the Western powers are pursuing.

"Russia, Germany, our European partners and the United States have very close positions on the Iranian problem," Putin said.

China made no immediate comment after the meeting.

Earlier, Monday, the Foreign Ministry in Beijing took a cautious tone.

"China believes that under the current situation, all relevant sides should remain restrained and stick to solving the Iranian nuclear issue through negotiations," the ministry said in a statement.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who was not at the meeting, said after it ended that London also wanted Iran to return to talks.

"What we hope is that as a result of this and other diplomatic pressure is that the Iranians will come back to the negotiating table ... and will recognize the good intent of the European three," he told Channel 4 news, referring to Britain, France and Germany, which negotiated with Tehran for 2 1/2 tense years.

However, diplomats from the three countries informed the others at the meeting that they plan to call for an emergency board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency on Feb. 2-3 to discuss what action to take against Tehran, the Foreign Office said.

That could be a step towards referral to the Security Council.

The United States and its European allies fear Iran intends to build an atomic bomb, and Iran's new hard-line president's sharp anti-Israeli comments have only fueled their anxiety.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, traveling in Africa, said America wants a vote as soon as possible on whether to refer Iran to the Security Council, arguing that Tehran would take advantage of any delay.

"We've got to finally demonstrate to Iran that it can't with impunity just cast aside the just demands of the international community," she said.

Straw said the "onus is on Iran" to prove its program is peaceful. He said the international community's confidence had been "sorely undermined by a history of concealment and deception" by the clerical regime.

Tehran insists its intentions are peaceful and says it only wants to produce electricity. Iranian state radio reported Monday that the country had allocated the equivalent of $215 for the construction of what would be its second and third nuclear power plants.

Egypt on Iran: We will not accept a new nuclear power (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/670595.html)


Title: Israel, Hamas Rewrite Rules of Engagement
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 10:59:55 AM
Israel, Hamas Rewrite Rules of Engagement

By SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press Writer Tue Jan 17, 7:46 AM ET

JERUSALEM - Israel and Hamas, sworn enemies with a bloody history, have rewritten their rules of engagement for the Palestinian election campaign in Jerusalem, epicenter of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Israeli police briefly detained three Hamas candidates and the militants spouted a little anti-Israeli rhetoric, an expression of the conflicting claims to Jerusalem. Yet both sides have avoided a head-on clash to ensure the Palestinian parliament election takes place Jan. 25 as planned — Hamas because it expects to make a strong showing, and Israel because it doesn't want to upset the Bush administration.

On Sunday, Israel's Cabinet voted to allow Palestinians to cast absentee ballots in Jerusalem, but barred Hamas from campaigning in the city because the Islamic militants are pledged to Israel's destruction.

Later in the day, police picked up three Hamas candidates for questioning, tore down campaign banners and raided a charity they suspected was a Hamas front. On Monday, the candidates were released.

At home after his release, Mohammed Abu Teir, 55, said his brief detention had helped his campaign.

"It gave us the opportunity to give the people the picture of what is happening in Jerusalem, without even talking to our people," said Abu Teir, who spent 25 years in Israeli prisons.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said the ultimate goal is to see the Palestinian election take place, suggesting Israel would find a way to settle any disputes over voting procedures or Hamas' role.

"In light of the Palestinian Authority's explicit commitment to disband Hamas and its terror infrastructure after and as a result of the elections, Israel will not provide the Palestinian Authority any excuse for postponement of the elections and evading this commitment," Regev said.

Palestinian voting in Jerusalem is largely symbolic, since only about 5,000 of the city's 230,000 Arab residents are eligible to cast ballots — a quota set when Israel and the Palestinians first negotiated the voting arrangements in the city in 1996. The compromise allowed 5,000 voters to mail absentee ballots from five post offices in the city, while the other eligible voters had to travel to nearby
West Bank polling stations.

The arrangement was meant to allow both sides to keep their conflicting claims to east Jerusalem, the sector Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 Mideast War. Israel says it will never relinquish sovereignty over all of Jerusalem, while the Palestinians want to establish their future capital in the eastern sector.

Recent polls indicate that Hamas is gaining ground against Abbas' ruling Fatah Party. A survey last week said Hamas would win 31 percent of the overall vote, compared to 35 percent for Fatah, with 22 percent undecided. That's a 10-point gain for Hamas from a month ago.

On Jerusalem's streets, there was no sign of Hamas, with the exception of a few boys handing out fliers near the Al Aqsa Mosque compound, out of the eyesight of Israeli police.

Abu Teir said his group has other ways of getting the message out. "Most of us preach in mosques, and we have university professors, doctors, students bodies, and we ... go from house to house," he said. "We are very well-organized, and not just confrontational."

In its Jerusalem campaign, Hamas focuses on the city's West Bank suburbs, which are part of the Jerusalem district on the Palestinian electoral map. Some 50,000 of the suburbs' 160,000 residents are eligible voters.

During a recent stop in the West Bank community of Anata, cut off from Jerusalem by Israel's separation barrier, Abu Teir addressed some 200 residents, many wearing the Islamic green basketball caps Hamas hands out as campaign gifts. "God is great," the crowd chanted.

Hamas campaigners focus on corruption by the Palestinian Authority, playing down the violent conflict with Israel. Hamas has carried out scores of suicide attacks in Israel since its founding in 1987, killing hundreds of Israelis. But it has largely observed a truce during the past year, acknowledging that the Palestinians are worn out from hardships brought on by five years of fighting.

The U.S. and Europe consider Hamas a terrorist organization and have warned they may cut aid to the Palestinians if Hamas joins the Palestinian Authority after the election. However, Washington and the European Union have said Hamas should be allowed to compete in the election, at the same time urging the militants to disarm.

Hamas has said it won't give up its weapons until Israel withdraws from all occupied land. However, with militant activity apparently on hold, at least until the election, Hamas is moving toward becoming a political party.

The Hamas campaign manager in Jerusalem, who would give only his nom de guerre, Abu Youssef, for fear of arrest, said the elections are key to cleaning up the group's image.

"We need international legitimacy which we will get through the parliament," Abu Youssef said.

Israel, Hamas Rewrite Rules of Engagement (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_hamas_campaign;_ylt=ArduiEtejbYClGh81Xxw.p4LewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: IRAN SEEKS S-300 FROM RUSSIA
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 11:10:50 AM
IRAN SEEKS S-300 FROM RUSSIA

MOSCOW [MENL] -- Iran has entered an advanced stage of negotiations for the Russian-origin S-300 anti-aircraft and missile system.

Russian industry sources said Moscow and Teheran have held a series of talks for the Iranian purchase of the S-300 long-range surface-to-air missile system. The sources said the negotiations focused on the Iranian acquisition of an S-300 platform that would have missile interception capabilities.

"The negotiations were expected to be concluded shortly, but there are diplomatic issues that could block a contract," an industry source said.

On Jan. 13, the Kommersant business daily reported that a Russian team had arrived in Teheran to draft an S-300 contract. But Kommersant said the delegation was ordered to return to Moscow amid Teheran's resumption of uranium nuclear enrichment.

IRAN SEEKS S-300 FROM RUSSIA  (http://www.worthynews.com/news/menewsline-com-stories-2006-january-01_17_2-html/)


Title: Olmert: We won’t accept Iranian threat
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
Olmert: We won’t accept Iranian threat

Acting Prime Minister Olmert says, ‘I believe there is a way to ensure unconventional weapons are kept away from irresponsible hands that may jeopardize world peace’; pledges to resume talks with PA following elections
Tal Rosner

Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Tuesday he hopes to resume peace negotiations with the Palestinians after elections in the Palestinian Authority and Israel are held.

Speaking at a press conference following a meeting with President Moshe Katsav, Olmert took the opportunity to comment on a series of political and diplomatic issues, for the first time since he stepped in to replace ailing Prime Minister Ariel Sharon about two weeks ago.

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Olmert (left) with President Katsav (Photo: Gil Yochanan)

When asked whether he intends to carry out further disengagements after the elections, Olmert said, "I am just a temporary replacement for Kadima's chairman, hopefully for a short while. With relation to the government's policy – we are sticking to the Road Map peace plan."

"It would be a mistake not to demand of the other side to hold on the commitments it made in the Road Map plan, and not insist it holds to its obligation to fight terror and disarm terror groups," he added.

Olmert said that the government's policy will continue to move in the same course as it did in the past year. "I hope that following the PA elections and the elections in Israel, I can engage in negotiations with Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, on the condition he keeps to his commitment to disarm the terror organizations. Only then can we reach a settlement," Olmert stated.

Firm hand in Hebron

Remarking on the recent riots in Hebron, Olmert said he has instructed the defense minister and the internal security minister to act with determination against the violent rioters in the West Bank town.

"We will show no hesitation. Anyone who raises a hand at a soldier or a policeman will be severely punished and evacuated from where he is not allowed to be. This is true for Hebron, Amona, and any other place," he said.

Olmert claimed he was operating in accordance with what he knows Ariel Sharon would have done.

'We have an impressive list of experienced candidates'

Turning his attention to the subject of the Iranian threat on Israel, the acting prime minister said the issue was on Israel's and the international community's agenda.

"I believe there is a way to ensure unconventional weapons are kept away from irresponsible hands that may jeopardize world peace," he said, adding he is very familiar with the subject, having dealt with it before.

According to Olmert, Israel is acting in cooperation with Europe and the United States to see that the matter is addressed.

"Under no circumstances will we allow a country with such evil intentions to have destructive weapons. We cannot accept a situation in which such a threat exists, and nor can Europe or the U.S.

Referring to local politics, Olmert said he plans to formulate the Kadima party's list for Knesset in the next few days, on the basis of guarantees given by Sharon, and through consultation with the party's ministers.

"This will be carried out quickly, because we have an impressive list of experienced candidates we want to present to the public," Olmert explained.

Olmert: We won’t accept Iranian threat  (http://www.worthynews.com/news/ynetnews-com-Ext-Comp-ArticleLayout-CdaArticlePrintPreview-1,2506,L-3201792,00-html/)


Title: Israel's acting leader wins backing from party
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 11:25:23 AM
Israel's acting leader wins backing from party
By Matthew Gutman, USA TODAY

JERUSALEM — Ehud Olmert, Israel's acting leader since Prime Minister Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke Jan. 4, got the nod to Monday lead his party's ticket in upcoming elections.

Olmert's decision to stand in as leader of the Kadima Party he co-founded with Sharon gives him a strong chance to become the next prime minister.

Olmert's selection by Kadima came a day after Israel's attorney general ruled that Olmert would remain acting prime minister until elections March 28.

With Sharon, 77, still in critical condition and unconscious at Hadassah Hospital, Olmert has quietly taken charge. The March vote will show whether Israelis support Olmert's view that a Palestinian state will help bring peace and security to the region — a view shared by Sharon and President Bush. (Related story: Family: Sharon opens eyes)

Israeli officials put off most decisions the first few days after Sharon's collapse. Since then, Olmert and his government have been active:

• On Monday, the Israeli army declared a Jewish settlement in Hebron a closed military area. Israeli settlers in Hebron — the only West Bank city divided between Palestinian and Israeli zones — have been rioting over plans to evict Jewish squatters from a shuttered Palestinian market.

Olmert's order last week to evict the squatters was the first since the Israeli government's August eviction of Jewish settlers from Gaza and parts of the West Bank.

• On Sunday, he headed a meeting of the Israeli Cabinet as it approved a move to allow Palestinians in East Jerusalem to vote in Jan. 25 parliamentary elections.

• On Thursday, Olmert fielded a phone call from Bush, who expressed concern for Sharon and urged Olmert to follow in Sharon's path.

"That call may seem trivial to Americans," said Asher Cohen, a political scientist at Tel Aviv's Bar Ilan University. "But in the mind of Israelis, it is crucial. It makes Olmert's position as prime minister that much more official."

Sharon already had entrusted Olmert with a key mission: Olmert broached the Gaza pullout plan to Israelis in December 2003. Five months later, Sharon dispatched Olmert to sell the idea to then-secretary of State Colin Powell and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.

Sharon's popularity soared after the successful pullout. In November, after he quit his Likud Party and picked Olmert as his deputy, Sharon based Kadima's political platform on the U.S.-brokered "road map" — confidence-building measures meant to end the violence that erupted in September 2000. Kadima has consistently polled ahead of rival parties Labor and Likud, even after Sharon fell ill.

Born in the northern town of Binyamina in 1945, Olmert studied law at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

In 1973, he joined the Knesset, Israel's parliament, as part of Likud, a new right wing party co-founded by Ariel Sharon. Since then, Olmert has headed several ministries.

He and his wife, Aliza, an activist for Tel Aviv-based Peace Now organization, have four children.

In 1993, Olmert successfully ran for mayor of Jerusalem. His platform: consolidating Israel's hold on the city, which both Israel and the Palestinians claim as their capital.

Olmert now says more withdrawals from Palestinian territory are the key to peace.

"Israel will continue to progress by carrying out unilateral moves, including the possibility of further withdrawals,"

Israel's acting leader wins backing from party (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-01-16-israel-olmert_x.htm)


Title: Russia Says Imposing Sanctions a Bad Way of Dealing with Iran
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 11:42:01 AM
Russia Says Imposing Sanctions a Bad Way of Dealing with Iran

Created: 17.01.2006 16:25 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 18:52 MSK, 39 minutes ago

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Russia’s foreign minister said Tuesday that referring Iran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions was not the best way to resolve the Iranian nuclear crisis, urging all nations involved to keep nonproliferation as their paramount goal.

The permanent members of the Security Council — the United States, Russia, France, Britain and China — agreed during a meeting in London on Monday that Iran must fully suspend its nuclear program, but differed over whether to refer the dispute for action by the council, AP reported.

Russia and China have been under pressure from the United States and the European Union to support a move to refer Iran to the Security Council as a result of its decision earlier this month to restart its nuclear program. The Western allies fear Iran intends to build an atomic bomb, and Iran’s new hard-line president’s sharp anti-Israeli comments recently have only fueled their anxiety.

“Sanctions are not the best or the only way to solve international problems,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told a news conference Tuesday. “Our common efforts should be aimed at getting answers to all the questions, without exception, which were posed by experts of the International Atomic Energy Agency.”

Lavrov said that raising the prospect of sanctions was tantamount to “putting the cart before the horse.”

“Our common goal is to ensure the inviolability of the nuclear nonproliferation regime,” he said. “If we all strive for this main goal, we will be able to find a collective approach to solving this issue.”

British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s official spokesman said Tuesday that Britain remains open to a negotiated solution that would avoid referring Iran to the Security Council. The spokesman said Iran would have to abide by its international obligations to make any deal acceptable.

“Our ideal outcome is a diplomatic solution,” the spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with government policy. “A diplomatic solution has to mean that Iran abides by its international obligations. That is the test. If someone, if Iran, wants to come up with a solution that meets that test, fine. It does have to meet that test.”

Diplomats in London announced plans Monday for an emergency meeting of the IAEA board of directors on Feb. 2-3. The 35-member board of the U.N. nuclear watchdog has the power to refer the issue to the Security Council.

The Interfax news agency reported that the Iranian Embassy in Moscow had circulated an Iranian Foreign Ministry statement saying Tehran invited the EU to return to negotiations but that the emergency IAEA session could lead to a new impasse.

Iran has said it would not bend before the threat of sanctions.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday urged caution in dealing with the Iranian nuclear issue, saying Tehran might still agree to Moscow’s offer to move Iran’s uranium enrichment program to Russia — a step offered as a way to resolve the deadlock over Tehran’s nuclear ambitions.

Iran’s ambassador to Moscow, Gholamreza Ansari, said late Monday that Iran considered the proposal “constructive” and said Tehran was still considering it.

Israel planned to dispatch a top team to Russia on Tuesday in an attempt to get Russia to agree to refer Iran to the Security Council, the Haaretz newspaper reported on its Web site. The team would include National Security Chief Giora Eiland and the director of Israel’s Atomic Energy Commission, Gideon Frank, Haaretz said.

China on Tuesday appealed for a negotiated settlement to the dispute, calling on Tehran to return to talks with Britain, France and Germany.

“We hope Iran can coordinate with the international community so as to resume negotiations through diplomatic means,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan. “All parties should keep patience and do all they can to restore the negotiations between Iran and the three European Union countries.”

Kong didn’t respond directly when asked whether Beijing wanted to see the matter referred to the Security Council. China, a major buyer of Iranian oil, said earlier that taking the dispute to the council could worsen tensions.

Russia Says Imposing Sanctions a Bad Way of Dealing with Iran (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/01/17/moreiran.shtml)


Title: Israel's Olmert says hopes to renew peace talks
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 05:17:09 PM
Israel's Olmert says hopes to renew peace talks
Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:57 AM ET171

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Interim Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said on Tuesday that he hoped to resume peace negotiations with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas after Israel's March 28 general election.

But Olmert said that such talks would depend on Israel's long-standing demand for Abbas to disarm militant groups, a process the Palestinians are supposed to start under a U.S.-brokered road map to peace.

"I hope that based on the results of their (January 25 Palestinian) elections, and after that the results of our elections, I will be able to enter negotiations with (Abbas) on condition that he will uphold his commitments ... for a permanent settlement between us and the Palestinians," Olmert told reporters.

But he added: "That depends on whether he (Abbas) will uphold his commitments to disarm the terror groups, and I hope that he will do this."

Israel's Olmert says hopes to renew peace talks (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-17T115715Z_01_L17610127711_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-OLMERT-1.xml&archived=False)


Title: EU Trade Chief: Partners Unwilling to Make Decisions Needed for Trade Deal
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 05:32:15 PM
EU Trade Chief: Partners Unwilling to Make Decisions Needed for Trade Deal
By VOA News
17 January 2006
   

European Union Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson says EU trading partners are not ready to make what he calls the "hard decisions" needed for a world trade deal.

Monday, Mandelson made his first speech to the European Parliament since last month's World Trade Organization meeting ended with little progress. He said Hong Kong and other major European trading partners are not yet prepared to make the concessions needed to bring talks to a successful conclusion in 2006.

Mandelson said he will do what he can to meet a deadline for a deal, but not at Europe's expense. The EU says it has made significant compromises on such issues as farm subsidies to open its market to agricultural imports.

The United States and other countries say the E.U. has not gone far enough.

EU Trade Chief: Partners Unwilling to Make Decisions Needed for Trade Deal (http://www.worthynews.com/news/voanews-com-english-2006-01-17-voa5-cfm/)


Title: EU suspends 35 million euros in aid to the Palestinian Authority
Post by: Shammu on January 17, 2006, 05:34:30 PM
22:18 17/01/2006            
EU suspends 35 million euros in aid to the Palestinian Authority
By Reuters

The European Union has suspended 35 million euros ($42 million) in aid to the Palestinians, citing their lack of budgetary discipline, the EU's commissioner for external relations said on Tuesday.

The rare sanction underscored intensified foreign donor scrutiny on the Palestinian Authority since Israel quit the Gaza Strip last year after 38 years of occupation. The impoverished territory is widely seen as a testing ground for statehood.

Visiting the region ahead of Palestinian legislative elections on Jan. 25, the EU commissioner, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, said half of 70 million euros ($84 million) donated through the World Bank in November has not been released, and that the issue was under discussion.

"The biggest donor is the European Commission, and we have not paid because the benchmarks have not been fulfilled," she told reporters.

"There has to be a credible finance minister, but there also has to be a budget and the budget should also remain within the limits of what the budget has foreseen," she said.

The Palestinian Authority had no immediate comment. There has been no replacement appointed for Salam Fayyad, who quit as Palestinian finance minister in November to run for parliament.

Before resigning, Fayyad predicted aid from a World Bank trust fund would be cut in response to ballooning Palestinian government wage costs. The trust has paid out at least &230 million to the Palestinians since its founding in 2004.

The Palestinian economy has withered since the start of an uprising against Israel in the occupied West Bank and Gaza in 2000, hampered by violence and by mismanagement and corruption that discourage donors.

The World Bank has said that reviving the Palestinian economy is crucial to peacemaking. But Ferrero-Waldner, who said European aid to the Palestinians had previously been held up in 2002 and 2003, said such donations could not be unconditional.

"We have a long-term commitment with the Palestinian people that we would like to improve their living conditions (but) we are not only pumping money into the Palestinians without asking for very clear benchmarks," she said.

EU suspends 35 million euros in aid to the Palestinian Authority (http://www.worthynews.com/news/haaretzdaily-com-hasen-spages-671507-html/)


Title: Dichter says Israel should act against Iran if pushed to the wall
Post by: Shammu on January 19, 2006, 10:38:33 PM
Last update - 12:54 19/01/2006

Dichter says Israel should act against Iran if pushed to the wall
By The Associated Press

Former Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter said Thursday that Israel should let the international community act to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons but, if pushed to the wall, should act against Iran.

Avi Dichter told Army Radio that Israel was currently satisfied with the international community's efforts to stop Iran from enriching uranium but must act if it faces the real danger of Iran possessing nuclear weapons.

"I don't think it is correct for Israel to act alone on a matter that really disturbs and engages the enlightened countries of the world, lead by the United States," Dichter said. "If we feel that we are facing an imminent threat, Israel has the real insights and a bit of experience on how to deal with such matters a moment before someone tries to destroy us."

He was apparently referring to an Israeli airstrike in 1981 on Iraqi nuclear reactors.

Germany: UN could be part of solution to Iran nuclear crisis German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier insisted in comments broadcast Thursday that European efforts to refer Iran to the United Nations Security Council did not mean abandoning attempts to reach a diplomatic solution.

Steinmeier's comments came after Germany, along with Britain, France and the U.S. rejected Iran's attempts to resume negotiations on its nuclear program, and the UN's Vienna-based nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, confirmed it would hold a special meeting of its 35-nation Board of Governors next month.

"The search for further solutions, such as involving the governing board of the IAEA, does not mean that we are no longer seeking diplomatic solutions," Steinmeier told ZDF television from Egypt.

"We are now looking for them from a different angle and, if possible, supported by the authority of the Security Council."

The foreign minister said the European negotiators' talks with Iran had "reached a point where we would have risked our credibility if we had simply continued," Steinmeier said.

Steinmeier traveled to Cairo on Wednesday to meet with his Egyptian counterpart, Ahmed Aboul Gheit. He was to hold talks Thursday with President Hosni Mubarak and Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa.

Dichter says Israel should act against Iran if pushed to the wall (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/672450.html)


Title: 32 hurt in Tel Aviv bombing
Post by: Shammu on January 19, 2006, 10:48:30 PM
32 hurt in Tel Aviv bombing

Terror in Tel Aviv: Suicide bomber detonates himself at food stand in southern Tel Aviv, near old central bus station; one person seriously wounded, other victims sustain light to moderate wounds. Police sappers scour area; Islamic Jihad’s al-Quds Brigades claims responsibility for attack
Avi Cohen

The bomber blew himself up around 3:50 p.m. at the corner of Salomon and Neve Sha'anan streets in the south of the city.

Islamic Jihad’s al-Quds Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack. Palestinian sources told Ynet the bomber is Islamic Jihad member Sami Abd al-Hafiz Antar, 22, from Nablus.

According to the Magen David Adom ambulance service, one person sustained serious wounds while the others suffered light to moderate injuries. All wounded were taken to Tel Aviv-area hospitals. Police are examining whether the relatively low number of casualties was a result of a malfunction in the explosive device.

'Blessed operation'

Meanwhile, the Fatah's al-Aqsa Brigades also claimed responsibility for the bombing.

Abu-Udai, a senior al-Aqsa member told Ynet the attack in Tel Aviv "is a blessed operation that comes in response to recent Israeli assassinations, the last of which is the assassination of the Hamas commander in Tul Karem."

Abu-Udai also said the Palestinian people had a right to defend themselves against Israeli violations of the calm.

"The attack shows that the Palestinian resistance, despite all of Israel's security measures, is able to reach any place, any time, time after time," he said.

'We prevent 99 percent of terror attacks'

Extensive devastation was reported at the "Rosh Ha'ir" food stand, where the bomber blew himself up, but almost no damage was reported at nearby stores. Most victims of the blast were at the food stand at the time of the explosion.

Thursday's bombing marks the first attack in Israel following a month of relative quiet.

Large police forces and ambulance teams were dispatched to the area following initial reports of the explosion. Police sappers were scouring the area for search of more explosive devices or potential bombers. Police also set roadblocks at the entrance to Tel Aviv.

Senior police officials also arrived at the scene, as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai. Tel Aviv District Police Commander David Zur said police did not have any concrete warnings ahead of the bombing.

"The forces arrived at the scene very quickly…our working assumption is that there are always terror warnings," he said. "At the end of the day we are able to prevent 99 percent of terror attacks, but once a terrorist arrives at the central bus station it is much easier to blow up."

'Blast shook all the windows'

Referring to the relatively low number of casualties, Zur added: "In this case we were fortunate that he detonated himself in an enclosed area, and therefore the damage in the area is smaller, but we still had a number of wounded."

According to Zur, forces are currently pursuing a vehicle seen fleeing the area.

Meanwhile, police closed off all roads around the central bus station in the wake of the attack. Police also boosted their deployment across the country and are screening suspicious vehicles at the entrances to cities. Police presence at crowed concentrations was also boosted.

Security forces are also looking into the route taken by the bomber. This is the first time in a year that an attacker from Nablus, which is surrounded by the IDF, carries out an attack in Israel. The last suicide bomber from Nablus carried out an attack at the Carmel Market in Tel Aviv 2004.

Ofer, a bank employee who witnessed the attack, said that "we heard a serious blast near the cinema. A large number of ambulances arrived from all directions. The blast literally shook all the windows."

Yigal, an eyewitness from a nearby store, told Ynet: "We heard an explosion, not a particularly loud one. I saw people with blood. At first we didn't understand what was going on. But after we saw what's happening we ran away."

Meanwhile, hospital emergency lines were opened to provide information about casualties in the attack:

Ichilov hospital: 1255-133

Wolfson hospital: 1255-135

The Tel Aviv central bus station has been the scene of several terror attacks over the years. In January 2003, 23 people were murdered at the station in a double suicide bombing.

The last suicide blast in Israel occurred in Netanya, north of Tel Aviv, on December 5, 2005.

32 hurt in Tel Aviv bombing (http://www.worthynews.com/news/ynetnews-com-Ext-Comp-ArticleLayout-CdaArticlePrintPreview-1,2506,L-3202980,00-html/)


Title: Russia rejects Israeli proposal to impose sanctions on Iran
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:30:48 PM
Last update - 22:59 20/01/2006            
Russia rejects Israeli proposal to impose sanctions on Iran
By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters

Russia rejected Israel's suggestion to impose immediate sanctions on Iran in reaction to its nuclear program, it emerged Friday.

Israeli and Russian delegates met as part of Israel's attempts to garner the support of Western and other countries for a "sanctions basket" against Iran.

In the wake of growing international debate over possible sanctions Iran on Friday began moving its foreign reserves out of Europe to an undisclosed destination.

Diplomatic sources in Moscow said after the meetings with Israeli officials that "Russia listened very intently" to the proposals, but did not commit to taking any measures - a tactful way of saying that Russia has rejected Israel's proposal.

The Israeli delegation, headed by National Security Council director Gen. (res.) Giora Eiland and Atomic Energy Commission director Gideon Frank, paid a visit planned long in advance as part of the strategic dialogue between Moscow and Jerusalem.

Eiland and Frank met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Levarov; the head of Russia's National Security Council, Igor Ivanov; and the Russian atomic energy minister, Sergei Kiryenko.

Iran begins transferring foreign assets
Iran, threatened with referral to the Security Council for possible punitive measures, has announced Friday it began moving its foreign assets.

"We transfer foreign reserves to wherever we see as expedient. On this issue, we have started transferring. We are doing that," Ebrahim Sheibani told the ISNA students' news agency when asked about the need to shift Iran's holdings.

There was no immediate confirmation of the Iranian action, but Sheibani's remarks indicated how seriously the Islamic republic is taking the threat of UN sanctions.

The United States and the European Union want the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to refer Iran to the Security Council when the UN nuclear watchdog's governing board holds an emergency meeting on February.

Russia and China, which both have major commercial interests at stake in Iran, have urged caution.

China's state-run press on Friday urged Iran to halt nuclear work and return to talks with Britain, France and Germany, but argued against taking Tehran to the Security Council.

The State Department said Friday Iran is isolating itself further from the world by withdrawing its foreign currency deposits.

"I don't know what it is that they hope to accomplish by doing this," spokesman Sean McCormack said.

Asked whether the Iranian action would result in lost leverage for Europe in its dealings with Iran, McCormack said the EU-3 tried to use the available levers that it had with Iran to promote serious negotiations. That effort, he said, "didn't work."

He was referring to an abortive negotiating effort by the EU-3 to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapons capability.

Stuart Eizenstat, who helped negotiate sanctions against Iran after the 1979 hostage crisis, said the Iranian currency action could weaken European resolve to ensure that Iran does not acquire nuclear weapons.

"It's one less instrument of leverage," Eizenstat told AP.

Russia rejects Israeli proposal to impose sanctions on Iran (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/672921.html)


Title: Iran's leader challenges Europe to take back Jews in Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:33:40 PM
Last update - 05:04 21/01/2006            
Iran's leader challenges Europe to take back Jews in Israel
By The Associated Press

DAMASCUS - In a new attack on the existence of Israel, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has challenged Europe to take back the Jews who emigrated to Israel, adding that no Jews would remain in Israel if Europe were to open its doors.

Ahmadinejad delivered the challenge after arriving in Syria for a two-day visit on Thursday. Addressing Europe, he asked: "Would you open the doors of your own countries to these (Jewish) immigrants so that they could travel to any part of Europe they chose?"

"Would you offer the necessary guarantees that you would provide for their security when they came to your countries and not allow another anti-Semitic wave in Europe?" he added in an apparent reference to recent attacks on Jewish cemeteries and properties in European states.

Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcries last year when he said Israel should be "wiped out" and that the Nazi Holocaust against Jews in World War II was a "myth."

In his comments in the Syrian capital, which Iran's official Islamic Republic News Agency reported Friday, Ahmadinejad forecast that the West would not answer the questions he had posed but would instead accuse him of "talking against global peace."

He said Europe should welcome Jewish people to prove its sincerity in supporting people's freedoms.

He added he was confident that no Jews would remain in Israel if European countries allowed them to immigrate.

Ahmadinejad left Syria late Friday to return to Iran.

Iran's leader challenges Europe to take back Jews in Israel (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/672977.html)


Title: Iran and Syria behind Tel Aviv bomb: Israel's Mofaz
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:38:04 PM
Iran and Syria behind Tel Aviv bomb: Israel's Mofaz
Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:22 AM ET11

By Ori Lewis

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's defense minister accused Iran and Syria of being directly responsible for Thursday's suicide bombing in Tel Aviv which wounded 30 people, newspaper reports said on Friday.

The Haaretz daily reported that Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said Israeli authorities had "decisive proof that that the attack in Tel Aviv was a direct result of the Axis of Terror that operates between Iran and Syria".

Mofaz was also quoted as saying that Iran had funded the attack while the operational orders to the suicide bomber, who came from the occupied West Bank city of Nablus, were issued at the Islamic Jihad headquarters in Damascus.

Hebrew daily Yedioth Ahronoth quoted Mofaz as saying that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, who is on a two-day visit to Syria, was holding a "terrorism summit" with his host, President Bashar al-Assad.

Army Radio reported that Israel had already shared the evidence of Iran's and Syria's involvement with officials in the United States, Europe and Egypt.

Islamic Jihad, which is sworn to Israel's destruction, claimed responsibility for the Tel Aviv bombing, the first in the Jewish state since an 11-month truce expired at the end of last year.

The bombing raised tensions five days before a Palestinian election and confronted interim Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with a major test.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said the attack was aimed at sabotaging the January 25 parliamentary election. Violence could complicate the poll, in which the militant group Hamas is expected to make a strong showing against his Fatah movement.

Hours after the attack, Israeli troops killed a Palestinian on the side of a road near the West Bank city of Hebron, the army and Palestinian security sources said.

An army spokesman said soldiers fired at two Palestinians who had lit a petrol bomb, killing one man. They arrested the other.

Abbas, who engineered the truce to help smooth the way for Israel's Gaza withdrawal in September, said the bombing was a "flagrant violation" of the truce and was aimed to try to derail the Palestinian vote.

"Whoever stands behind this operation will be pursued," he told reporters in Ramallah.

Authorities said the bomber was the only fatality but one person was in serious condition. The other injuries were mostly light to moderate, medics said.

Iran and Syria behind Tel Aviv bomb: Israel's Mofaz (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-20T122204Z_01_L20243733_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-ISRAEL-IRAN.xml&archived=False)


Title: CHRONOLOGY-Suicide bombings in Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:41:21 PM
CHRONOLOGY-Suicide bombings in Israel
Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:35 AM ET15


This is for the past year. DW
         

(Reuters) - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up in Tel Aviv on Thursday, wounding 30 people, Israeli officials said.

Here is a short chronology of major suicide bombings in Israel in the last year. Death tolls do not include the bombers.

2005:

Feb 25 - A suicide bomber kills five Israelis and wounds about 50 people outside the Stage nightclub in Tel Aviv. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

July 12 - A Palestinian blows himself up at an Israeli shopping mall in Netanya, killing five and wounding at least 30. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

Aug 28 - A suicide bomber blows himself up at the entrance to Beersheba's central bus station, wounding at least 20. There is no immediate claim of responsibility.

Oct 26 - A Palestinian blows himself up in the main market at Hadera. Six people die and more than 30 are wounded.

Dec 5 - A suicide bomber blows himself up at the entrance to the Sharon shopping mall in Netanya, killing five and wounding at least 40. Lebanon's Hizbollah television says Islamic Jihad's Jerusalem Brigades claimed responsibility.

Dec 29 - An Israeli soldier and two Palestinian bystanders are killed in a suicide bombing in Tulkarm in the occupied West Bank. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

2006:

Jan 19 - Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself up at a sandwich stand near Tel Aviv's old central bus station, wounding 30 people. Islamic Jihad claim the bombing.

CHRONOLOGY-Suicide bombings in Israel (http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-01-20T113438Z_01_L26119973_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml&related=true)


Title: State Dept. blasts Iran for backing Jihad, Hamas
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:47:28 PM
State Dept. blasts Iran for backing Jihad, Hamas
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

The State Department, reacting negatively to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's meeting in Damascus with leaders of two militant Palestinian groups, said Friday neither Iran nor Syria can proclaim themselves champions of the Palestinian people.

The claims are "clearly bankrupt and hollow," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, citing Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas as calling for foreign governments to stop their support for Palestinian rejectionist groups.

In fact, McCormack said, Abbas has called for Damascus to close down the headquarters of these groups, including Islamic Jihad.

"This is one more example of the Iranian regime being out of step with the trends in the region," McCormack said.

"The very words of the Palestinian leader prove that the stated claims of the Iranians and Syrians as championing the Palestinian people are clearly bankrupt and hollow." McCormack said.

State Dept. blasts Iran for backing Jihad, Hamas (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605882302&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Report: Iran building spy satellite
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:50:54 PM
 Updated Jan. 20, 2006 23:14
Report: Iran building spy satellite
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

Iran announced Friday it has begun pulling its foreign currency accounts out of European banks, an amount analysts said could reach $50 billion, to protect its assets from possible UN sanctions over its nuclear program.

Iran also called for a reduction in OPEC oil production, raising the possibility that the country's oil prowess would be deployed in the standoff with the West.

The move also deprives Europe of an important lever to influence Iran and could weaken its resolve to push Iran to give up key parts of its nuclear program, analysts said.

The US State Department responded Friday, saying Iran is isolating itself further from the world by withdrawing its foreign currency deposits from European banks.

"I don't know what it is that they hope to accomplish by doing this," spokesman Sean McCormack said.

Asked whether the Iranian action would result in lost leverage for Europe in its dealings with Iran, McCormack said the EU-3 tried to use the available levers that it had with Iran to promote serious negotiations. That effort, he said, "didn't work."

Stuart Eizenstat, who helped negotiate sanctions against Iran after the 1979 hostage crisis, said the Iranian currency action could weaken European resolve to ensure that Iran does not acquire nuclear weapons.

Also, according to a Channel 2 report Friday, Iran is working with an Italian company to build a spy satellite, showing documents outlining the deal and still photos of meetings between Italian company officials and Iranians.

The documents, with the title "The Mesbah Project," explain what the satellite's abilities would be and what it would look like.

The Iranians are working with the Italian company Carlo Gavazzi Space, the report said. An Israeli satellite expert said Mesbah would be a simple satellite, but that the Iranians are gathering important research and development data that will allow them to independently build their own satellite in the future.

In related news, an Iranian exile group claimed Friday that Tehran had acquired banned machinery to further the country's nuclear weapons ambitions.

The group, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, also claimed that the machinery, which they identified as a "hot press" and a "hot iso-static press," was being kept at a secret site 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of Tehran

Report: Iran building spy satellite (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605881604&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Holocaust Museum slammed by activists
Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2006, 10:53:36 PM
Updated Jan. 20, 2006 16:41
Holocaust Museum slammed by activists Those activists, can stick it in there ear, as far as i'm concerned. The Holocaust, is from World War 2, not todays actions.  DW
By NATHAN GUTTMAN
WASHINGTON

A group of American Jewish activists has launched a campaign aimed at getting the US Holocaust Memorial Museum to recognize the anti-Semitic actions by Arab and Muslim leaders during World War II and to take a leading role in fighting anti-Semitism in the Arab world.

The group, "Holocaust Museum Watch," points to the fact that the museum, funded by the federal government, has never presented an exhibit or sponsored an event dealing with Muslim anti-Semitism or with the fate of the Jews in Arab countries during the Holocaust.

"The absence of these programs is a failure of the museum and an obscene dereliction of its ways," said chairwoman Carol Greenwald,

Some 100 Jews gathered Wednesday night at a Washington synagogue to hear more about the campaign, which up until now was not seen as a major issue on the Jewish agenda. The organizers called on the Jewish community to play an active role in demanding that the Holocaust Museum recognize the issue of Arab and Muslim anti-Semitism.

The demand is focused on three issues: the cooperation of Jerusalem's grand mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, with the Nazi regime; the anti-Jewish pogroms in Arab countries during World War II, mainly the Farhud in Baghdad; and the current rise of anti-Semitism in the Arab and Muslim world.

Husseini's ties with Nazi Germany are well known - he met with Adolf Eichmann and offered Hitler any help he could supply in murdering Europe's Jews and Jews worldwide. His actions are not mentioned at all in the Holocaust museum.

Shlomo Alfassa, of the international Sephardic Leadership Council, pointed out the second issue in dispute - the suffering of Jews in Arab countries during the Holocaust. Alfassa tried to get the museum to sponsor an event commemorating the Farhud - a bloody pogrom against Iraq's Jews in 1941, but was rejected by the museum. So were other attempts to highlight the hardship of North African Jews who were under occupation.

"This is a continued marginalization of facts by a government-funded scholarly institute," Alfassa said, adding that the reason for this is "extensive political correctness."

Rabbi Avi Weiss, head of the Amcha coalition for Jewish concern, was more direct. In a passionate speech, he claimed that there is a political motivation behind the Holocaust Museum's decision not to pay attention to events in the Arab world. According to Weiss, "The political demands made by the government on the museum are often in conflict with pure Shoah memory."

The group is trying to get the Holocaust Museum, part of whose mission is to fight hate and genocide, to speak out against modern Arab and Muslim anti-Semitism, specifically the latest remarks of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calling for the destruction of the State of Israel, and Iran's plans to sponsor a Holocaust deniers' conference.

The museum did issue a release denouncing Ahmadinajad, but the watchdog group thinks that is not enough. "The US Holocaust Museum, the authority on genocide, is silent," said Greenwald, "It is this silence that pretends there is no danger and encourages inaction."

A spokesman for the US Holocaust Museum did not respond to The Jerusalem Post's request for a comment on the group's allegations.

Holocaust Museum slammed by activists (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605877206&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 21, 2006, 05:19:15 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/randers/MahmoudAhmadinejad.jpg)


Is Iran already
at war with U.S.?
Ahmadinejad called for more than
wiping Israel off the face of the earth
Posted: January 21, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech in Tehran last fall, in which he called for Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth, got a healthy amount of coverage by the international media.

Yet, despite the number of stories published and broadcast, a key element of that address to 'The World Without Zionism" conference was overlooked, ignored – spiked, if you will – by major press organizations, according to a new report in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

It wasn't just a world without Zionism and Israel that Ahmadinejad and his friends in Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and other terrorist groups were envisioning. It was a world without the United States of America.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. In this case, it is literally true. Examine for yourself the photos published here of Ahmadinejad addressing the Tehran conference Oct. 26, 2005.

Some of them will look very familiar. Those showing the Iranian president gesticulating at a podium showing the name of the conference were published worldwide – from Al-Jazeera to the Associated Press. But those showing a wider view – and the complete poster for the event – are getting their biggest audience yet here in G2B.

It is worth noting that Ahmadinejad didn't just stroll up to the podium. The Iranian government actually produced the visual aids you see here.

Yes, that is a ball representing the USA cracked at the bottom of that hourglass — with another representing Israel falling later.

It wasn't just the imagery of the conference that was overlooked, ignored, unreported and underplayed by the world press. It was also the anti-American substance of Ahmadinejad's speech.

"Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism?" he asked. "But you had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved."

What is he talking about?

Iran has developed a strategic "war preparation plan" for what it calls the "destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization."



Title: Israel "cannot tolerate nuclear option for Iran: Mofaz
Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2006, 08:46:19 PM
Israel "cannot tolerate nuclear option for Iran: Mofaz

2 hours, 22 minutes ago

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz warned that Israel will not tolerate a "nuclear option" for Iran, while reaffirming his commitment to diplomacy in the nuclear standoff.

"We are giving priority at this stage to diplomatic action... but in any case we cannot tolerate a nuclear option for Iran and we must prepare ourselves," Mofaz said at a symposium in Herzliya, north of Tel Aviv.

"We must develop the option of our defense with all that implies," Mofaz said without providing further details.

"We must treat the (Iranian) threat responsibly and with utmost seriousness," Mofaz said, renewing accusations that Tehran was supporting "terrorism" by funding militant groups.

"Iran gives (Lebanese Shiite group) Hezbollah 100 million dollars per year, and part of this money goes to Palestinian terrorist groups," he said.

"In addition, Iran is the primary source of money for Islamic Jihad which committed the majority of suicide attacks against Israel last year."

The defense minister's remarks came after interim prime minister Ehud Olmert said Tuesday that Israel would not let anyone who threatened its existence obtain weapons of mass destruction.

"Israel cannot allow in any way or at any stage someone who has such hostile intentions against us to obtain weapons that could threaten our existence, " Olmert said in talks with President Moshe Katsav.

Israel has come to view the Islamic republic in Tehran as its number one enemy and its fears were heightened when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in October called for the Jewish state to be "wiped off the map."

Iran faces the threat of being referred to the UN Security Council for resuming sensitive nuclear fuel research work that Israel and the Western powers fear would give the regime the know-how to build a bomb.

Tehran insists such work is legal given it has signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and has branded atomic weapons "un-Islamic".

Like Mofaz, Olmert also stressed that a diplomatic solution was still possible.

Mofaz blamed arch enemies Iran and  Syria on Friday for a Palestinian suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that wounded 19 and has escalated tension just days before a legislative election in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Iran said on Saturday that the allegations were baseless.

The Jewish state has never acknowledged the existence of a nuclear arsenal, though it is widely believed to possess hundreds of atomic weapons.

Israel "cannot tolerate nuclear option for Iran: Mofaz (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060121/wl_mideast_afp/mideastisraelnuclear_060121231600;_ylt=AnEGh9z3VY0cMcHLuBSbvakUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--)


Title: Iran President Meets Palestinian Leaders
Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2006, 08:49:01 PM
Iran President Meets Palestinian Leaders

By ALBERT AJI, Associated Press Writer Fri Jan 20, 7:45 PM ET

DAMASCUS, Syria - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met Friday with the leaders of the Palestinian groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Syria, expressing his support a day after 20 people were wounded in Tel Aviv in a suicide attack claimed by Jihad.

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz has said Syria planned the attack and Iran funded it. Iranian and Syrian officials have denied any involvement by their countries.

Shortly before he left Syria at the end of a two-day visit, President Ahmadinejad reiterated that Syria and Iran had formed a "front" to oppose what he called world "arrogance and domination," a reference to the United States and its Western allies.

In a final statement, the two governments expressed support for Iran's right to the peaceful exploitation of nuclear power and criticized what they called the "selective and double-standard policy practiced by some international powers in this regard." The remark was a reference to U.S. and European opposition to Iran's enrichment of uranium, a process that can produce material for atomic bombs.

In a second reference to certain Western powers, the statement said Iran and Syria demanded a timetable "for the withdrawal of occupation forces from
Iraq."

On the second and final day of his first official visit to Syria, Ahmadinejad held separate meetings with leaders of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Syrian-backed Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, and a representative of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

Earlier Friday, Mofaz said Israel had "definitive proof" of Iranian and Syrian involvement in Thursday's attack in Tel Aviv where a suicide bomber wounded 20 people in a fast-food restaurant. He said the findings would be shared with American and European officials.

On Thursday, his first day in Syria, the Iranian president made a new attack on the existence of Israel, challenging Europe to take back the Jews who emigrated to Israel.

Addressing Europe, he asked: "Would you open the doors of your own countries to these (Jewish) immigrants so that they could travel to any part of Europe they chose?"

He said he was confident that no Jews would remain in Israel if European countries allowed them to immigrate, according to Iran's official Islamic Republic News Agency, which reported the remarks on Friday.

Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcries last year when he said Israel should be "wiped out" and that the Nazi Holocaust against Jews in World War II was a "myth."

Iran President Meets Palestinian Leaders (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060121/ap_on_re_mi_ea/syria_iran;_ylt=Aj6seyb15qo4JT02XgPPRsILewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Syria accuses Israel of assassinating Arafat
Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2006, 08:55:47 PM
Syria accuses Israel of assassinating Arafat :-X
Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:57 AM ET

DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad accused Israel on Saturday of assassinating former Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, the cause of whose death 14 months ago remains a mystery.

"Of the many assassinations that Israel carried out in a methodical and organized way, the most dangerous thing that Israel did was the assassination of President Yasser Arafat," Assad told a gathering of Arab lawyers.

"This was under the world's gaze and its silence, and not one state dared to issue a statement or stance toward this, as though nothing happened."

Arafat died in Paris on November 11, 2004 at the age of 75 after being rushed from his West Bank compound to a French military hospital.

Israel has denied being responsible for the deterioration in Arafat's health before his death and has denied poisoning him.

Israeli officials said he had access to medical treatment, food, water and medication during the two years he spent in his battered compound in Ramallah, which was besieged by Israeli troops for months in 2002.

French doctors denied rumors that Arafat was poisoned but have refused to publish his medical reports, citing strict privacy laws.

Arafat aides had quoted doctors as saying he had a low count of platelets, which help the blood to clot. They later said he had gone into a coma, suffered a brain hemorrhage and lost the use of his vital organs one by one. But no definitive cause of death was announced.

Syria accuses Israel of assassinating Arafat (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-21T145657Z_01_L21352750_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-SYRIA-ARAFAT.xml)


Title: Dalai Lama to visit Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 03:29:09 AM
Jan. 22, 2006 8:39
Dalai Lama to visit Israel

By JAY MICHAELSON

The Dalai Lama, the exiled leader of the Tibetan people who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989, will visit Israel next month.

A previous visit, in November 1999, during which he met with then-Knesset speaker Avraham Burg and education minister Yossi Sarid, elicited strong protests from the Chinese government, which at the time was negotiating a weapons purchase from Israel.

The visit is part of celebrations marking the centennial of David Ben-Gurion's birth, and is the brainchild of Avishay Braverman, former president of the Ben-Gurion University and Labor Chairman Amir Peretz's candidate for finance minister, who recently took third place in the Labor Party primary.

The events are being coordinated by the Israeli Friends of the Tibetan People (Yativ), and are expected to include a visit to Ben-Gurion's grave, lectures in Tel Aviv, and possible further meetings with Israeli government officials.

While the Dalai Lama is a frequent traveler to countries around the globe, his visits to Israel are controversial because of Israel's close relationship with the Chinese government, which refuses to negotiate with the Tibetan leader and insists that Tibet is part of China.

Israel is China's second-largest supplier of arms, a relationship which has caused tension with the United States. Last June, under pressure from the Bush administration, Israel agreed to cancel an arms deal with China and allow US officials to review its future weapons transactions.

The public program of the Dalai Lama's visit, however, is more spiritual than political. On February 17, the Dalai Lama is to lecture on "Collective Responsibility," and the next day he will lead a day of workshops on "The Practice of Consciousness."

Many Israelis visit Dharamsala, the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile, during trips to the Far East, and there are a number of Buddhist meditation groups in Israel.

Born in 1935, Tenzin Gyatso is the 14th Dalai Lama. Since assuming the leadership of Tibet, he has witnessed the end of Tibetan independence, the death of over one million Tibetans at the hands of the Chinese, and the creation of a Tibetan diaspora.

He has met with Jewish leaders many times in an effort to learn how Jewish culture survived exile from the Land of Israel, most famously in a series of meetings that became the subject of the book and film The Jew in the Lotus.

Notwithstanding the Dalai Lama's personal and political history, his bestselling books such as The Art of Happiness and The Power of Compassion generally focus on how to attain happiness in everyday life.

"The very purpose of life is to be happy," he says. "And if you want to be happy, practice compassion."

Dalai Lama to visit Israel (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605886399&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

My note; Just what Israel needs, a phoney spiritual leader. Israel needs to find, Jesus in a hurry. Though I know it won't happen that way. :'(


Title: Iraqi Cleric: Militia Would Defend Iran
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 11:03:30 PM
Iraqi Cleric: Militia Would Defend Iran

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 55 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran - The Iraqi cleric who once led two uprisings against U.S. forces said Sunday that his militia would help to defend Iran if it is attacked, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Muqtada al-Sadr, speaking on the sidelines of a meeting with the top Iranian nuclear negotiator, said his Mahdi Army was formed to defend Islam.

"If neighboring Islamic countries, including Iran, become the target of attacks, we will support them," al-Sadr was quoted as saying. "The Mahdi Army is beyond the Iraqi army. It was established to defend Islam."

The comments could be seen as a message that Tehran has allies who could make things difficult for U.S. forces in the region if Iran's nuclear facilities are attacked.

Al-Sadr has a large following among Iraq's young and impoverished Shiites. His militia launched two uprisings against U.S. troops in Iraq in 2004, but since the fighting ended he has transformed himself into a respected political figure. Al-Sadr's followers now hold 21 seats in the outgoing parliament as well as three Cabinet posts.

Al-Sadr's backing of Iran, a Shiite majority nation, follows a hint from Israel's defense minister that the Jewish state was preparing for military action to stop Iran's nuclear program. A few days earlier, French President Jacques Chirac said France could respond with nuclear weapons against any state-sponsored terror attack. The comments were seen by some as a reference to Iran.

"I don't see any threat against Iran," Iran's nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said after meeting with al-Sadr. "Iran is big and strong and it is a hard target."

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman said earlier Sunday that Israel would be making a "fatal mistake" should it resort to military action. Iran has warned that Israel was living in a "glass house" and was well within Iran's missile range.

An upgraded version of Iran's Shahab-3 missile has a range of over 1,240 miles, putting Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East in range.

Iran's resumption of its atomic research program earlier this month caused an international standoff over its nuclear ambitions.

Some Western nations fear Iran is using its civilian nuclear program as a cover to develop an atomic bomb. Iran insists it wants only peaceful nuclear energy.

Iraqi Cleric: Militia Would Defend Iran (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_iraq_sadr;_ylt=AtSEA4iTt2r8H4xD4gspbHWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-) :D


Title: Iran Allocates Over $100 Million for Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 11:15:13 PM
Iran Allocates Over $100 Million for Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad
17:08 Jan 22, '06 / 22 Tevet 5766
By Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

The Lebanese-based terror organization Hizbullah is supported by Iran to the tune of US$100 million per year. $10 million also made its way last year from Iran to the Islamic Jihad.


The extent of Iranian support for Lebanese and Palestinian Authority-based terrorist organizations was revealed by Defense Minister Sha'ul Mofaz Saturday night, in a lecture he delivered at the annual Herzliya Conference. Mofaz noted that on Friday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad held talks in Damascus with representatives of Hizbullah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine during a visit he paid to Syrian dictator Bashar Al-Assad.

Mofaz called Assad and Ahmadinejad "representatives of the Axis of Evil," saying that their meeting was "a summit for terror." Ahmadinejad made the trip to Syria, according to the defense minister, "to be sure that the terrorism against Israel would not slow down for a moment, and would even increase." In this regard, Mofaz said that Iran supports public relations efforts for the Hizbullah, supplies the organization with weapons and funds its activities with about $100 million per year. Part of that sum also makes its way to terrorists in the Palestinian Authority, Mofaz said.

In addition, Iran separately funded the PA-based Islamic Jihad with $10 million in 2005. This figure, the defense minister noted, is twice the Iranian budget allocation for it in 2004. Most recently, Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing on Thursday in south Tel Aviv, in which 30 people were injured, and for a rocket it claimed was fired at Ashkelon on Saturday.

"The regime of the president of Iran, Ahmadinejad, supports terrorism in the Middle East through the supply of rockets that threaten population centers in this country, sends money for terrorism, and supplies training and know-how to the Middle Eastern [terror] organizations," Defense Minister Mofaz said.

Addressing comments to the Iranian leader, Mofaz, who was himself born in Iran, warned, "It would be to your benefit to take a look at history and see what became of those who tried to exterminate the Jewish people. I know the Iranian people - and more than a little - and a large part of it does not recognize its leader's opinions."

In addition, Defense Minister Mofaz stated that Israel will not tolerate Iran completing its nuclear reactor, as Tehran continues nuclear enrichment efforts. Israel, Mofaz said, "must be prepared to defend itself, with all that that implies." In that regard, he added, "An international effort must be promoted against Iran, which supports terrorism and denies the Holocaust."

 Iran Allocates Over $100 Million for Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=97051)

I pray that, the start is near, cause I'm ready to fly!


Title: Rafiah Crossing: Safe Passage for Terrorists
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 11:19:58 PM
 Rafiah Crossing: Safe Passage for Terrorists
17:28 Jan 22, '06 / 22 Tevet 5766
By Scott Shiloh


      Israeli supervision over the Rafiah crossing between Gaza and Egypt has proven ineffective in preventing the free passage of terrorists into and out of Gaza.


Senior members of the Islamic Jihad terror organization, including terrorists wanted by the IDF, recently left the Gaza district to make the Moslem Haj to Mecca. The terrorists used that freedom of movement to hold meetings with senior Islamic Jihad officials from Syria and Lebanon.

The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for last Thursday’s suicide bombing in Tel Aviv. Thirty civilians were wounded in that attack.

Among the terrorists who traveled freely out of Gaza were Mohammed Al-Hindi, Sheikh Abdulla Shami, Mohammed Alharzain, Hisham Salem, and Omar Shalho. There figures, all of whom returned freely to Gaza, make up some of the foremost terrorists fighting Israel today.

Under the terms of an agreement brokered by the United States, Israel was supposed to be able to moniter the operations of the Rafiah crossing via closed circuit television.

The terrorists leaders felt secure enough in their new found freedom to tell the Arab newspaper Albian on January 22, how easily they passed from Gaza to Saudi Arabia and back.

While meeting with their Lebanese and Syrian counterparts in Saudi Arabia, the Gaza terrorists were able to settle a number of policy disputes regarding political and military issues.

One of those issues was whether the Islamic Jihad should participate in the elections for the PA parliament scheduled for January 25. Originally, the terror group was opposed to participation in the elections. Since the group’s leaders returned from Saudi Arabia, however, they decided to allow members to vote according to their consciences, and even run for office.

 Rafiah Crossing: Safe Passage for Terrorists  (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=97102)


Title: Israel gears up for possible Hamas victory
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 11:30:52 PM
Jan. 23, 2006 2:35
Israel gears up for possible Hamas victory
By HERB KEINON

Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert appointed a blue-ribbon team Sunday to monitor the Palestinian Legislative Council elections and recommend policy, as Israel began gearing up for the possibility that Hamas may win Wednesday's vote, forcing Israel to make some tough choices.

Newly-appointed Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told the weekly cabinet meeting that even if Hamas did not win, and even if it was not included in the next government, there would be those in the international community who would try to make a distinction between having terrorist organizations in the parliament - which they would deem legitimate - and having them in the government, which they would not see as acceptable.

Israel cannot accept this distinction, she said, and would demand on the day after elections that the PA government do what it promised the world: dismantle the terrorist organizations.

Livni said the PA sold the world on the idea that elections with Hamas participation were necessary because at the end of the process, the PA would have the legitimacy to place all arms under a central government. The international community had to stick to this position, she said.

Israel is increasingly concerned that Hamas's participation in the elections will lead to increased calls in Europe to look at the organization as a political one and take it off its list of terrorist organizations.

The cabinet, meanwhile, was united around the notion that any Hamas participation in PA government institutions was unacceptable, one government source said. But the panel that Olmert set up was to present him with various policy alternatives for exactly that eventuality, as well as others.

Olmert convened a meeting with top security officials and a handful of cabinet ministers after the cabinet session that presented the different scenarios, ranging from a Fatah victory to a Hamas one, and then appointed a panel to draw up various policy options for the different scenarios.

The panel includes Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Dan Halutz, Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) head Yuval Diskin, Foreign Ministry Director-General Ron Prosor, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's military aide Maj.-Gen. Gadi Shamni and Sharon's special adviser Dov Weisglass.

The National Security Council, headed by Giora Eiland, was also charged with coming up with a set of recommendations.

An indication as to how the international community will deal with the elections won't be long in coming, as the Quartet - comprised of the US, EU, Russia and UN - is scheduled to meet on January 30, as are the EU foreign ministers, to discuss the matter.

Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz told the cabinet that there was a likelihood that terrorists would try to disrupt the elections by carrying out an attack. He said there were still 10 concrete warnings of attacks, and another 40 based on "partial information."

Mofaz also said it was likely that there would be attempts to carry out attacks similar to the one last week in Tel Aviv, which he said was financed by Iran, planned in Syria, and carried out by a man from near Nablus. He said Iran was transferring "considerable funds" to Hizbullah and Islamic Jihad, and that the terrorist organizations in Judea and Samaria were demanding money for each attack.

At the start of the meeting, Olmert said a formal cabinet discussion on the ramifications of the PA elections would take place after they were held so it would not appear as if Israel was trying to influence the outcome. Olmert urged the ministers not to talk about the elections beforehand.

Israel gears up for possible Hamas victory (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605894208&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Iran calls Israeli threats a game
Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2006, 11:39:25 PM
Jan. 22, 2006 16:23
Iran calls Israeli threats a game
By JPOST STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PRESS
TEHERAN, Iran

Director of Military Intelligence, Maj.-Gen. Amos Yadlin, said at the cabinet meeting on Sunday that if sanctions were to be imposed on Iran, the world should still avoid forcing an oil embargo on the country.

According to Yadlin, an oil embargo would cause more harm than good.

The intelligence chief proposed other steps against Iran, such as limiting Iranian citizen's freedom of travel, as well as preventing Iranian diplomats from traveling.

Earlier Sunday Iran said Israel would be making a "fatal mistake" should it resort to military action against Teheran's nuclear program and dismissed veiled threats from the Jewish state as a "childish game."

On Saturday, Israel repeated its stand on the issue, saying it would not accept a nuclear Iran under any circumstances and was preparing for the possible failure of diplomatic efforts.

While Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz stopped short of an outright threat of military action, he said Israel "must have the capability to defend itself...and this we are preparing." I do believe that Israel can take care of Iran, with little trouble. That is if the other arab nations stay out of it. DW

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said Israel was only trying to add to Western pressure on Iran to give up its nuclear program.

"We consider Mofaz's comments a form of psychological warfare. Israel knows just how much of a fatal mistake it would be (to attack Iran)," Asefi told reporters. "This is just a childish game by Israel."

Israel views Iran as its biggest threat and has joined Washington in charging that Teheran is trying to building nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is for electricity generation.

Asefi's threats were not limited to Israel. He said dialogue was the best way to settle the dispute and issued a harsh warning to European powers to resume talks.

"We advise them [Europe] not to choose any path except dialogue. If there is a retribution to be paid, that will include Europe too," Asefi said, adding that Iran plans to continue cooperation with the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Last week, European powers drafted a resolution calling for Iran's referral to the UN Security Council to resolve its nuclear issue. The resolution, however, stopped short of calling for sanctions.

Iran calls Israeli threats a game (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605890537&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)


Title: Israeli Leaders Brace for Hamas Landslide
Post by: Shammu on January 23, 2006, 02:11:26 PM
Israeli Leaders Brace for Hamas Landslide

By JOSEF FEDERMAN, Associated Press Writer Sun Jan 22, 6:31 PM ET

JERUSALEM - Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert met with top military and political officials Sunday to discuss the growing likelihood that the militant group Hamas could dominate this week's Palestinian elections.

The ascendance of Hamas has alarmed Israel, which appears to have been caught off guard by the group's surging popularity before Wednesday's vote. Hamas has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and remains committed to Israel's destruction.

"What Israel has to do is the big question," Cabinet minister Tzachi Hanegbi said before Sunday's meeting. "We have to think hard and explore all the options."

The United States and European Union also have been scrambling to figure out how to deal with Hamas. U.S. officials confirmed Sunday they have been directing money to promote democratic parties in the election but denied the move was aimed against Hamas.

Hamas, best known for its suicide attacks, has won over the Palestinian public in its first run for the legislature by focusing on domestic concerns, halting corruption and restoring law and order to the chaotic West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In contrast, the ruling Fatah Party has been unable to shed its corrupt image or overcome infighting. Recent opinion polls show the two movements running even.

While some security officials privately support a dialogue with Hamas, top leaders, including military chief Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, say the group must disarm and revoke its charter calling for Israel's elimination.

"Regarding the elections in the Palestinian authority, there are three options: that Fatah wins, that Hamas wins or anarchy wins. One of these results could put all progress back several years," Halutz told an academic conference Sunday, apparently referring to Hamas and warning that violence could follow the election.

Commentators said Olmert's meeting Sunday — which included the army chief, head of the Shin Bet security agency, and the justice and defense ministers — reflected a failure by Israel to detect Hamas' growing popularity, despite its strong performance in Palestinian municipal voting in recent months.

"Their assumption was Fatah will handily win any election," said Mouin Rabbani, an analyst with the International Crisis Group based in Jordan.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has said he hopes Hamas would tame its positions once it formally joins the political system, but other Fatah officials sent mixed signals over whether they would work with the Islamic group. Palestinian Information Minister Nabil Shaath, a top Fatah official, said Hamas must accept the principle of peace with Israel if it wants to share power.

However, Fatah's top candidate, the jailed Palestinian uprising leader Marwan Barghouti, said Sunday that "Hamas will be part and parcel of the Palestinian Authority" after the vote. Barghouti was interviewed in an Israeli prison by the Arab satellite TV station Al-Jazeera.

The United States and EU both consider Hamas a terrorist group, and both have said millions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians could be jeopardized.

"As a matter of policy, we don't deal with Hamas," said Stewart Tuttle, the U.S. Embassy spokesman in Tel Aviv. "If Hamas members win seats ... we are not going to deal with those individuals."

The U.S. Agency for International Development has used a special $1.9 million budget to promote democratic parties in the Palestinian election, said a U.S. Consulate spokeswoman in Jerusalem, Micaela Schweitzer-Bluhm.

She denied that the money, used in part to clean streets, distribute free food and water and to help fund a youth soccer tournament, was used to boost Fatah's prospects.

Behind the scenes, U.S. officials are considering the possibility of distinguishing between Hamas legislators tied to violence and those who are not — a position Israel rejects. European diplomats said they would decide what to do after election results are in.

The West Bank and Gaza Strip have been plagued by chaos and lawlessness in recent months, and some armed groups have threatened to disrupt the voting.

Visiting election commission offices on Sunday, Abbas was resolute. "Orders have been issued to security forces to strike with an iron fist against anyone who would try to sabotage this election," he said.

In other developments, an Israeli aircraft fired at three Palestinian gunmen trying to enter Israel from the Gaza Strip, killing one man and wounding two, according to the army and Palestinian officials. The Popular Resistance Committees, a tiny militant group not running in the election, vowed revenge.

Separately, Benjamin Netanyahu, the leader of the battered Likud Party, said Sunday that he would be willing to make "significant concessions" in a final peace deal with the Palestinians if his party wins elections March 28.

However, he spelled out a tough negotiating line, saying Israel's final borders would include east Jerusalem, the Jordan Valley and other parts of the West Bank — areas the Palestinians want for a future state — if a government run by Netanyahu signs a peace accord with the Palestinians

Israeli Leaders Brace for Hamas Landslide (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060122/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians;_ylt=AmriiOP3yQz7I9tXhqirRZQLewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Iran says Palestine is center of Islam, fight against arrogance
Post by: Shammu on January 23, 2006, 02:17:06 PM
 Iran says Palestine is center of Islam, fight against arrogance
Tehran, Jan 21, IRNA

Syria-Iran- President Ahmadinejad said Friday Palestine is the center of the final stages of the battle between Islam and arrogance, saying the Palestinian Intifada is progressing.

The plots hatched by enemies against Palestine should not be overlooked even for a moment, Ahmadinejad noted in a meeting with leaders of the Palestinian resistance movements in Damascus, Syria.

Ahmadinejad arrived in Damascus on Thursday upon the official invitation of his Syrian counterpart -- President Bashar al-Assad.

He spoke of the importance of the Palestinian cause and stressed the cause will not come be materialized if occupiers continue to occupy even a tiny part of Palestine's territories.

He stressed that unity, coordination and sympathy among resistance groups for the Palestinian cause is the only guarantee for Palestine's liberation.

The Islamic Republic of Iran supports the Palestinian cause of statehood and liberation of Islamic territories from occupiers, he added.

Elsewhere, he noted that one of the reasons westerners were lined up against Iran's undeniable right to gain peaceful nuclear technology was because of Iran's uncompromising support for Palestine.

The visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Syria is considered another gesture of political support to Damascus and the Islamic resistance, said Hamas political leader Khaled Mishaal.

The Hamas official extended his thanks to the Iranian president for his firm stance on the Palestinian issue, saying the resistance group, Hamas, considers resistance the only way to resolve the Palestinians' rights and success of their avowed goals.

Iran says Palestine is center of Islam, fight against arrogance (http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0601217945151146.htm)

Things are really shaping up! ;D


Title: Iran races to defend nuclear facilities
Post by: Shammu on January 25, 2006, 03:11:04 PM
Iran races to defend nuclear facilities
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent and Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor
(Filed: 25/01/2006)

Iran is racing to dig a network of tunnels and upgrade its air defences to protect its nuclear facilities from possible attacks by America or Israel, it was reported yesterday.

Israel this week issued thinly-veiled warnings that it has drawn up plans for pre-emptive strikes against Iran. The United States insists it will not take the military option "off the table".

Seeking to avoid a repeat of Israel's 1981 air raid on Osiraq, Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactor, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued orders for the underground complexes to be completed by the beginning of July, Jane's Defence Weekly reported.

It said the network of facilities deep underground or in the sides of mountains has been built with help from North Korean designers.

Atomic inspectors discovered in 2003 that Iran was building a vast underground complex to enrich uranium near the town of Natanz.

But other facilities, such as the uranium conversion plant in Isfahan, are still above ground and exposed to attack.
    
Iran factfile

Iran insists it only seeks to develop a nuclear industry for "peaceful" purposes, but the West is convinced it is trying to build nuclear weapons.

Teheran provoked an international crisis earlier this month when it restarted the enrichment programme, under the guise of "research", after it had been frozen for two years during negotiations with European countries.

At an emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna next week, western countries will seek to report Teheran to the United Nations for possible sanctions.

Iran races to defend nuclear facilities (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/25/wiran25.xml)


Title: Palestinians Celebrate Historic Vote
Post by: Shammu on January 25, 2006, 03:25:29 PM
Palestinians Celebrate Historic Vote

By KARIN LAUB, Associated Press Writer 33 minutes ago

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Amid tight security and a sea of green and yellow flags, Palestinians turned out in large numbers Wednesday for their first parliamentary election in a decade — a historic vote integrating Islamic militants into politics and determining the future of peacemaking with Israel.

Voter turnout was 77.7 percent of 1.3 million eligible voters, the Central Election Commission said. In the 1996 parliamentary election, turnout was about 75 percent.

One poll suggested the ruling Fatah Party had likely won the most votes, with the Islamic militant group Hamas a close second, according to the West Bank's An Najah University. A pollster who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the results said Fatah won more than 42 percent of the vote and Hamas more than 34 percent. He said the telephone poll surveyed 6,500 people who said they voted and had a margin of error of 5 percentage points.

An exit poll broadcast by Israel's Channel 2 TV showed Fatah getting 43 percent to 32 percent for Hamas. The polls only reflect the national vote for each party. Half the seats are chosen at the district level, where Hamas was expected to do well.

Long lines formed across the West Bank and Gaza as Palestinians — given a real choice for the first time — eagerly cast their ballots for the 132 parliament seats up for grabs.

Polls closed at 7 p.m. (noon EST). Under a compromise with Israel, some Arabs in east Jerusalem were allowed to cast absentee ballots at post offices in the disputed city, and voting was extended there by two hours because postal workers were slow.

After the polls closed, Fatah supporters across Gaza and the West Bank began honking car horns, shooting in the air and setting off fireworks in celebration.

Election officials began counting the votes soon after polls closed and preliminary results were expected Thursday. Routine power cuts in the Gaza Strip town of Khan Younis forced election workers to count ballots by candlelight.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said he is ready to resume peace talks with Israel, even if Hamas joins his government after the vote.

"We are ready to negotiate," Abbas told Israeli reporters in the West Bank city of Ramallah. "We are partners with the Israelis. They don't have the right to choose their partner. But if they are seeking a Palestinian partner, this partner exists."

Even it doesn't win outright, Hamas is widely expected to make a strong showing that would place the Islamists — responsible for dozens of suicide bombings against Israel — squarely inside the Palestinian political system for the first time.

Hamas' success has alarmed Israel and the West, although Abbas has argued that bringing them into the system will tame them, enabling peace moves to go forward. In an apparent sign of pragmatism, Hamas has not carried out a suicide attacks since a cease-fire was declared a year ago.

But its top parliamentary candidate, Ismail Haniyeh, said Hamas had no intention of laying down its arms after the elections as Abbas has said he expects. And another prominent candidate, Mahmoud Zahar, said his group is "not going to change a single word" in its covenant calling for Israel's destruction.

The Bush administration lists Hamas as a terrorist organization and also refuses to deal directly with it. But State Department spokesman Sean McCormack on Tuesday refused to rule out negotiations with a Palestinian government that includes Hamas ministers.

Abbas, elected a year ago, will still head the Palestinian Authority regardless of Wednesday's results, but the voting will usher in a new Cabinet that could include Hamas members. Israel says it will not deal with Hamas until it disarms.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan called it "a historic and significant day for the Palestinian people."

The day had a festive feel — some party activists decorated their cars with red carnations, as if for a wedding — and few disruptions were reported, despite initial concern about possible violence. In the West Bank refugee camp of Balata, gunmen who had threatened to derail voting checked their automatic rifles at the door before casting their votes.

Emotions ran high in the disputed city of Jerusalem, where right-wing Israeli lawmakers and extremists tried to force their way into a Palestinian polling station, with 75 policemen blocking their way. And in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis, police fired into the air to push back a crowd of impatient voters jostling their way into a polling station.

Fatah, tainted by corruption after 12 years in power, was asking voters for another chance to pursue an elusive peace deal with Israel. Hamas has focused on clean government, and criticized Fatah's attempt at compromise with Israel as a sign of weakness.

Activists from both parties were out in full force, handing out lists of candidates' names, baseball hats and scarves. But the Hamas effort appeared more organized than Fatah's.

"These elections will determine the fate of the Palestinian people," said Mohammed Shaabein, a 71-year-old retiree in the northern Gaza town of Beit Lahiya.

The Beach refugee camp near Gaza City was decorated in a sea of flags — green for Hamas, yellow for Fatah — and the excitement in the air was palpable.

Outside a polling station at a boys' school in the camp, Fatah supporters wore the party's black-and-white checkered scarves decorated with Palestinian flags.

Hamas activists sported green baseball hats, and many of the Hamas women wore full veils and gloves, once a rare sight in Gaza and a sign of the growing influence of fundamentalist Islam in the impoverished coastal strip.

"We've reached the worst. The most important thing now is change," said Raed Abu Hamam, a 35-year-old construction worker in the Beach camp who said he is voting for Hamas.

Some 13,500 police officers deployed at 1,008 polling stations, taking up positions on rooftops and at entrances to enforce a weapons ban.

Nearly 20,000 local observers and 950 international monitors, led by former President Carter, watched the vote.

Francis Wurtz, an observer from the European Parliament, said he had witnessed no irregularities.

"The organization is very correct everywhere," he said.

There were some allegations of fraud in the 1996 parliamentary election and the 2005 presidential election that brought Abbas to power, but international monitors said at the time the problems were not widespread.

Abbas, who voted in Ramallah, said elections were proceeding smoothly but complained of Israeli travel restrictions on roads. Israel said it was easing checkpoints on voting day.

"We are so happy with this election festival," Abbas said, after dipping his index finger in ink to prevent double voting.

Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri, seeking a seat in Beit Lahiya, said he expects the group to win the biggest bloc in parliament.

Even then, Hamas has said it doesn't want to rule alone. "We did not come to replace anyone or squeeze out anyone. We came to start a new phase in political partnership and unity," al-Masri said.

Under Palestinian law, the largest party would be asked to form a government.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia said Fatah is ready to "stand behind" Hamas if the Islamic movement wins.

The election marked the first time Palestinians have a clear choice between two political camps since Hamas boycotted the 1996 vote.

Hamas is expected to ask for service ministries — health, education and welfare — and to leave diplomacy, including contacts with Israel, to others. Hamas, which has long ruled out negotiations with Israel, has signaled some flexibility on the issue in recent days.

Fatah leaders also predicted they will get more than half the parliament seats. But if forced to form a coalition, Fatah prefers to govern with smaller parties and would invite Hamas only if left with no other choice.

Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he hoped Palestinians would not "choose again the extremists who have led them from tragedy to tragedy and to sorrowful lives."

Palestinians Celebrate Historic Vote (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060125/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_election;_ylt=AlbwPqROiUpSd4NUsXFLnRWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-)


Title: Hamas: We're ready to rule Palestinians
Post by: Shammu on January 25, 2006, 11:44:58 PM
Hamas: We're ready to rule Palestinians
Terror chief proud of election results, slams Abbas' Fatah Party
Posted: January 25, 2006
7:42 p.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Hamas, responsible for over 100 suicide bombings and scores of shooting and rocket attacks, is ready to join the Palestinian government and lead its people to "victory and independence," the terror group's Gaza chief Mahmoud al-Zahar told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview.

With exit polls predicting the ruling Fatah Party will win today's elections by a slim margin, some Hamas leaders accused Fatah of tampering with ballots and blasted the United States for allegedly providing financial support to the opposition.

"We are very proud of our showing so far, which indicates the Palestinian people want to put an end to corruption and the domination of Fatah, which after all these years has not been a good leader for the Palestinians," said al-Zahar, speaking to WND just moments after initial polls showed Hamas looks set to garner 53 seats and Fatah 58 seats in the 132-member Palestinian Parliament.

Polling stations across the West Bank and Gaza Strip closed after 12 hours of voting, with ballots under inspection by the Palestinian Central Election Commission. Stations in Jerusalem stayed open an extra two hours after Fatah complained about bureaucratic delays.

Multiple exit polls predicted a slim Fatah victory, but pollsters cautioned there would be a large margin of error in their projections in light of what they called a complicated Palestinian election system, under which some seats are chosen from party lists and others on the basis of overall districts.

Still, hundreds of Fatah gunmen in the West Bank and Gaza reportedly took to the streets in celebration of their party's expected victory, shooting rifles into the air and waving Fatah's yellow flag.

If tomorrow's final ballot count certifies a slim win for Fatah, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas would quickly need to decide whether to invite Hamas to join his government or leave the terror group in the opposition. Abbas needs to maintain a 67-seat coalition. Multiple experts have said Abbas could form a ruling coalition with several leftist and communist party's instead of Hamas.

But al-Zahar told WND he is confident his terror group will form the next Palestinian government.

"Abbas will invite us. I think he realizes he needs Hamas and he knows the Palestinian people made a statement today that only we can rebuild Palestinian society and the West Bank and Gaza," said al-Zahar.

President Bush today stated the U.S. will not deal with Hamas unless the terror group disarms and renounces its call to destroy Israel, but he did not say whether America will cut off financial aid to the PA if Hamas joins the government.

"A political party, in order to be viable, is one that professes peace, in my judgment, in order that it will keep the peace," Bush said. "And so you're getting a sense of how I'm going to deal with Hamas if they end up in positions of responsibility. And the answer is: Not until you renounce your desire to destroy Israel will we deal with you."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan and European Union leaders will meet Monday to debate a response if Hamas joins the Palestinian government, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

The European Union is on record against allowing terror groups to join to PA, but there have been signs it and the U.S. may still deal with a Palestinian government that includes Hamas.

Benita Ferrero-Waldner, the European Union's external relations commissioner, said in Brussels the EU would not rule out working with a Palestinian government partially run by Hamas, provided the group sought "peace by peaceful means" with Israel.

U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dick Jones this week compared a Hamas coalition to the current government in Lebanon, explaining the U.S. is speaking with Lebanese rulers but not with Hezbollah ministers and that it would be possible to create a similar system with the Palestinians.

Previously asked by WND if he thinks a Hamas election victory would bring international isolation to the Palestinian people, al-Zahar responded, "There are many countries that suffer from international isolation, but we are speaking about very big popular support [for Hamas] from the Palestinian people. ... [We have the] support of many countries other than Europe and America, which has Zionist attitudes. We will succeed to help our people by all means whether the Western people accept us or not."

Al-Zahar said his group would not disarm and might not renew a truce with Israel that expires next month. Israel says Hamas has been involved in several rocket and shooting attacks the past year in spite of the truce.

Meanwhile, Hamas leaders are debating whether or not to challenge the election results when the final count is announced, WND has learned.

Senior Hamas officials have held a series of meetings charging Fatah with illegal campaign practices.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri accused Fatah of keeping the ballots opened longer in Jerusalem so Fatah supporters who couldn't reach the voting booths in time could be bussed in.

Some Hamas officials said they suspect Fatah may have tampered with ballots in certain regions and entirely forged votes in some West Bank towns.

One Hamas leader who spoke on condition his name be withheld said U.S. financial support to Fatah candidates influenced the ballots.

"The Zionist Americans helped the opposition by giving money that was used for a lot of advertising and swung the vote for Fatah," said the leader, who said he did not want to speak on the record because Hamas has not decided yet whether to make an issue out of alleged American aide to Fatah.

The U.S. Agency for International Development reportedly funneled large sums of money to Fatah for use in campaigning to counter Hamas, the Washington Post reported, stating the PA used some of the money to purchase newspaper advertisements.

Hamas, classified by the State Department and the European Union as a terrorist organization, is responsible for thousands of deadly shooting attacks, scores of suicide bombings and has fired over 300 rockets and mortars into Israeli towns.

Among Hamas' most notorious attacks are the "Passover massacre" in a Netanya hotel in 2002 in which 30 civilians celebrating the Jewish holiday were killed, the 2002 "Patt Junction bombing" of a Jerusalem bus killing 19 civilians, and the bombings in 2002 and 2003 of Jerusalem bus numbers 20 and 2, killing a combined 34 civilians, among scores of other large-scale suicide attacks.

Earlier this week in a widely reported interview, al-Zahar told WND his group may negotiate with Israel through a third party.

"If the Israelis have an offer to be discussed and [the offer includes] two very important points – the release of all [Palestinian] detainees and a stop of all Israeli aggression, including the process of withdrawal from the West Bank ... then we are going to search for an effective and constructive process [that will bring this] at the end," al-Zahar claimed.

Still, the terror chief said he will not amend the official Hamas charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel by "assaulting and killing," and rejects all peace talks with the Jewish state.

Hamas: We're ready to rule Palestinians (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48506)


Title: Iran threatens to put Israel into 'eternal coma'
Post by: Shammu on January 25, 2006, 11:51:50 PM
Jan. 25, 2006 17:56
Iran threatens to put Israel into 'eternal coma'
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
TEHRAN, Iran

Were Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, Iran would respond so strongly that it would put the Jewish state into "an eternal coma" like Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's, the Iranian defense minister said Wednesday.

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz has said his country would not accept Iran's acquiring nuclear weapons under any circumstances. He stopped short of threatening a military strike against Iran - as Israel destroyed an unfinished Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981 - but he said Israel was preparing for the possible failure of diplomatic negotiations with Iran.

A newscaster on Iranian state television read out a response from Iran's minister of defense, Gen. Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, on Wednesday.

"Zionists should know that if they do anything evil against Iran, the response of Iran's armed forces will be so firm that it will send them into eternal coma, like Sharon," Najjar said.

The Israeli prime minister suffered a massive stroke on January 4 and has been in a coma ever since. His doctors said he has responded to pain stimulus, but has shown no signs of waking up.

Iran threatens to put Israel into 'eternal coma' (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1137605914738&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

My note; As much as they wish, this will never happen.  :P


Title: Hamas wins upset victory in Palestinian election
Post by: Shammu on January 26, 2006, 01:10:53 PM
Hamas wins upset victory in Palestinian election
Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:07 AM ET166

 By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - The Islamic militant Hamas group swept to victory over the long-dominant Fatah party on Thursday in Palestinian parliamentary polls, a political earthquake that could bury any hope for reviving peace talks with Israel soon.

The shock outcome, acknowledged by Fatah ahead of official results, does not automatically unseat President Mahmoud Abbas, a moderate elected last year after Yasser Arafat's death. But he has said he might resign if unable to pursue a peace policy.

With peace negotiations stalled since 2000 and Israel and Hamas bitter enemies, Israeli interim Prime Minister Ehud Olmert could opt for more unilateral moves, following last year's Gaza pullout, to shape borders on land Palestinians want for a state.

Olmert, who took over from Ariel Sharon after the 77-year-old leader's January 4 stroke, suggested as much in a speech this week in which he repeated peace talks could not resume unless the Palestinian Authority disarmed militants.

Commentators in the Arab world predicted pragmatism would eventually prevail, with Hamas softening a position that now calls for the Jewish state's destruction and Israel forging contacts with a new Palestinian powerhouse on its doorstep.

"Hamas has won more than 70 seats in Gaza and the West Bank, which gives it more than 50 percent of the vote," said Ismail Haniyeh, a leader of the group.

Within hours of the statement, based on results supplied by Hamas representatives at polling stations in Wednesday's election, Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie of Fatah and his cabinet quit. Abbas asked him to stay on in a caretaker capacity.

WASHINGTON BACKS ABBAS

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice telephoned Abbas and told him "the U.S. administration will continue to support him and to back his policies", a spokesman for Abbas said.

Leaders of the European Union, the biggest aid donor to the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority, said Hamas must renounce violence and recognize Israel or risk international isolation.

Under Palestinian law, the biggest party in the 132-member parliament can veto the president's choice of a prime minister, effectively enabling Hamas to shape the next cabinet.

"Our lives will never be the same," Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat said. "Today we woke up and the sky was a different color. We have entered a new era."

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev declined comment amid reports that Olmert had told cabinet ministers not to speak out before top-level consultations on the Hamas win.

Israel, the United States and the European Union have classified Hamas, which has carried out nearly 60 suicide bombings in the Jewish state since a Palestinian uprising began in 2000, as a terrorist organization.

The United States is the main sponsor of a stalled "road map" peace plan that charts mutual steps toward the creation of a Palestinian state alongside a secure Israel.

A senior Fatah official said it appeared Hamas was propelled to victory by public frustration over the mainstream faction's failure to achieve Palestinian statehood and anger over years of corruption in its institutions and in the Palestinian Authority.

Official results were expected to be released around 7 p.m.

COALITION FEELERS SPURNED

Hamas officials held out the possibility of a coalition with Fatah and other parties -- and reaffirmed the group's commitment to what it calls armed resistance against Israeli occupation, as well as its opposition to negotiations with Israel.

Hamas's politburo chief Khaled Meshaal telephoned Abbas to affirm "a commitment to partnership with all the Palestinian forces, including the brothers in the Fatah movement".

But Jibril Rajoub, a senior Fatah official, rejected any coalition with Hamas, a group that Abbas had said he hoped to bring into the political mainstream and persuade to disarm.

Although Hamas's charter calls for Israel's elimination in favor of an Islamic state, its armed wing has largely respected a truce negotiated by Abbas and Egypt nearly a year ago.

In the wider Middle East, the Hamas victory was seen as strengthening the hand of those who favor democracy even at the risk of removing authoritarian Arab governments which themselves face Islamist opposition movements sympathetic to Hamas.

U.S. President George W. Bush said on Wednesday he would not deal with Hamas unless it accepted Israel's existence.

Voting in Wednesday's election was orderly despite weeks of armed chaos. More than 400 candidates ran locally in the first parliamentary elections since 1996. About 900 foreign observers, led by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, were present.

Three exit polls had forecast a slim Fatah victory in the election. Turnout was 78 percent of the 1.3 million voters.
Hamas wins upset victory in Palestinian election (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-01-26T140657Z_01_L20602990_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST.xml)


Title: Iranian official says hopes Hamas victory will unite Palestinians
Post by: Shammu on January 26, 2006, 01:13:03 PM
Last update - 18:30 26/01/2006            
Iranian official says hopes Hamas victory will unite Palestinians
By News Agencies

TEHRAN - The Iranian Foreign Ministry said Thursday that the country welcomes the victory of Hamas in the Palestinian Legislative Council election and hopes the result will strengthen resistance against Israel.

The United States and Israel accuse Iran of arming and funding militant groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad. But Iran says it only gives moral support to the Palestinian groups.

"Iran ... hopes that the powerful presence of Hamas at the [political] scene brings about great achievements for the Palestinian nation," said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi in a statement faxed to Reuters.

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During a visit to Damascus this month, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pledged support for militant Palestinian factions at a meeting with leaders from Islamic Jihad and Hamas. Ahmadinejad has said Israel should be "wiped off the map."

Asefi said the 78 percent turnout showed Palestinian nation's determination to fight against Israel.

"It showed the nation's loyalty and support to the resistance movement. We hope the result unites the Palestinian nation in pursuing its rights," Asefi said.

State-run radio in Iran opened its afternoon news broadcast with the report of Hamas' victory, saying the vote showed that Palestinians support resistance against Israel.

"Now the true representatives of the Palestinian people have come to power," said Javad Majidi, a student at Iran's Tehran University.

Jihad-Daneshgai, a semi-governmental cultural body active in Iranian universities, congratulated Hamas in a statement, saying the victory "angers the arrogant leaders of the U.S. and the occupiers of Jerusalem."

The Hamas victory was greeted with jubilation Thursday across the Muslim world.

"This is a victory to all the region's free people," said Ayoub Muhanna, a 29-year-old Lebanese who owns a spare parts shop in the southeast town of Rashaya. "The Palestinians gave their vote to the party that gave of its blood."

But while Hamas' victory proved the group's popularity over the ruling Fatah party, the win also could backfire on the militant group, some analysts said.

"Hamas' role was greatly respected and embraced because it was a resistance movement," Sami Moubayed, a Syrian analyst, told the Associated Press.

"Now, they will naturally be prone to fail like any other movement that entered the political arena, because they will have a very hard time to deliver on their promises," he said.

"The Palestinian Authority is corrupt and Hamas will now share the blame," he added. "Resistance is something very honorable. Politics is a dirty game."

Leaders of both Hamas and Fatah said Thursday that Hamas had won an outright majority of parliamentary seats, although official results were not yet available. That gives them the right to form the next Palestinian government, although it was not clear if they would choose to do so.

"What happened was tantamount to an earthquake," said Muhammad Jalbout, a Palestinian living in Syria.

He blamed the U.S. for indirectly helping Hamas win by not exerting enough pressure on Israel to implement agreements reached with the government of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, which would have reduced tensions in Palestinian areas.

'An Arab Sharon'
Dawood al-Shirian, a Saudi who hosts a political talk show on Dubai TV, said a Hamas win "will reflect positively on the political process, because Hamas has a good reputation in the Palestinian street."

Hamas' participation in the political process is also "an indirect recognition" of the 1993 Oslo agreement between the Palestinians and Israelis, which the group has long rejected, because the Palestinian Authority was founded as a result of the Oslo agreement, al-Shirian said.

Al-Shirian said he expected the group to be tough negotiators if peace talks are reopened between Israelis and Palestinians.

"They will be the Arab Sharon," he said. "They will be tough, but only a tough group can snatch concessions from Israel. "

The result of the electoins "will give [Hamas] a major boost," said Dia'a Rashwan, an Egyptian expert on Islamic movements.

Essam el-Aryan, a spokesman for Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood - which recently increased the number of its seats in Egypt's parliament from 17 to 88 - said the Brotherhood was jubilant.

"This is a great victory for Hamas," he said.

But he added that Hamas now faces the challenge "of maintaining good relations with the Arab governments and world powers to secure support for the Palestinian cause."

Iranian official says hopes Hamas victory will unite Palestinians (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/675298.html)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 26, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
Last update - 17:57 26/01/2006            
Bush urges Abbas to remain in office despite Hamas victory
By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and Agencies

United States President George W. Bush urged Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday to remain in office despite the legislative elections which gave Hamas an absolute majority in parliament.

"We'd like him stay in power. I mean we'd like him to stay in office. He is in power. We'd like him to stay in office."

Bush reiterated the U.S. position that it will not deal with Palestinian leaders who do not recognize Israel's right to exist.

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"I don't see how you can be a partner in peace if you advocate the destruction of a country as part of your platform. And I know you know you can't be a partner in peace if you have - if your party has got an armed wing," Bush told a White House news conference.

Asked if the United States was ruling out dealing with a Palestinian government that was made up partly of Hamas, he replied:

"They don't have a government yet, so you're asking me to speculate on what the government will look like. I have made it very clear however that a political party that articulates the destruction of Israel as part of a platform is a party with which we will not deal.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Thursday there could be no Middle East peace process if Hamas, winner of Wednesday's Palestinian parliamentary election, refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist.

"You can't have a peace process if you're not committed to the right of your partner to exist," she told the World Economic Forum in Switzerland, speaking by videolink.

"And I think you will hear the international community speak clearly on exactly those principles over the next day. There will be some difficult choices before those in whom the Palestinian people are placing their trust."

Rice said the Palestinian election had been peaceful and fair, with very high turnout. But she said the U.S. position on Hamas, which it considers a terrorist organization, was unchanged.

"As we have said, you cannot have one foot in politics and the other in terror. Our position on Hamas has therefore not changed."

Rice added: "Anyone who wants to govern the Palestinian people and do so with the support of the international community has got to be committed to a two-state solution, must be committed to the right of Israel to exist.

"But if there is to be a future that can answer the aspirations for peace of the Palestinian people ... then it is going to have to be a future that renounces violence and terrorism."

The office of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said Thursday that Rice had called Abbas to praise Palestinian democracy and assert that the U.S. supports him and his policies.

"She asserted to him that U.S. administration will continue supporting the elected president and his policies," said Nabil Abu Rudeineh, an Abbas aide.

U.S. FBI Director Robert Mueller said Thursday that Hamas remains a terrorist organization despite its success in elections.

"Hamas is a terrorist organization and Hamas has a choice to make," Mueller told the annual meeting of business and government leaders at the World Economic Forum. "It has to be treated as such by us until something convinces otherwise.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday the United States and all other governments should not recognize any Hamas-led Palestinian government unless the group renounces violence and recognizes Israel's right to exist.

"Until and unless Hamas renounces violence and terror, and renounces its position calling for the destruction of Israel, I don't believe the United States should recognize them, nor any nation in the world," said the former first lady, a potential candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Carter urges Hamas to act responsibly
Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said Thursday that he hoped that Hamas would act "responsibly" now that it appears to have been elected to power in the Palestinian parliamentary elections.

"My hope is that as Hamas assumes a major role in the next government, whatever that might be, it will take a position on international standards of responsibility," Carter told a news conference in Jerusalem.

Carter, who led an international observer team from the National Democratic Institute, said Wednesday's elections had been orderly and fair.

The elections were "completely honest, completely fair, completely safe and without violence," the former president said.

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana on Thursday congratulated the Palestinians on the "the smooth running" of the elections."

"The Palestinian people have voted democratically and peacefully. I welcome this," he said.

Solana also expressed caution at the results, saying that they "may confront us with an entirely new situation."

"The EU will express its views and prospects for cooperation with the future Palestinian Government in the light of that discussion and of developments on the ground," he added, saying that the Quartet of Middle East peace brokers would discuss "this new situation" at a meeting in London next week.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said Thursday that the Hamas victory was a "very, very, very bad result," according to news reports.

"If this news was confirmed, everything we had hoped for, that chance for peace between Israel and Palestine, is postponed to who knows when," Berlusconi said, according to the ANSA and Apcom news agencies. The comments were made during a TV show on a station Berlusconi owns.

Italy's foreign minister said the result risks making the creation of a Palestinian state more difficult.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw urged the Islamic militant group to renounce violence and recognize Israel.

"Hamas has to understand that with democracy goes renunciation of violence," Straw said on a visit to the Turkish capital. "It is up to Hamas to choose. We will have to wait and see, the international community will want Hamas to make a proper rejection of violence and to acknowledge that Israel exists," Straw said.

The Danish and Swedish foreign ministers on Thursday called on Hamas to give up their weapons. "It is a surprise election result. No one had expected they would get an absolute majority, if that is the outcome," Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller said.

"Hamas must stop the terror, they must put down the arms, they must accept a negotiated solution before the rest of the world can include them in the peace process," Moeller said.

Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds said the EU will not be able to cooperate with Hamas unless it changes its policies. "It is not possible for the EU to cooperate with a regime that does not dissociate itself from using violence and does not acknowledge Israel's right to exist," Freivalds told Swedish Radio.

The European Commission said Thursday it would work with any Palestinian government that used peaceful means.

"It is clear that Hamas has really got a very large proportion of the vote," European External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner told a European Parliament committee before official results were announced.

"What is important is that we state we are happy to work with any government if that government is prepared to work by peaceful means," she said.

Bush urges Abbas to remain in office despite Hamas victory (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/674865.html)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: 2nd Timothy on January 26, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
So much for the worlds Roadmap to peace!   Can't have peace without the Prince of Peace :)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 26, 2006, 04:49:37 PM
So much for the worlds Roadmap to peace!   Can't have peace without the Prince of Peace :)
AMEN

You know 2T, back when this thread was started things were bad. Now looking at this thread, you can see a trail. A trail getting worse, then before.


Title: Hamas Election Victory Shocks World
Post by: Shammu on January 27, 2006, 05:46:44 AM
Hamas Election Victory Shocks World

By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Islamic militant Hamas' landslide victory in Palestinian elections unnerved the world, darkening prospects for Mideast peace and ending four decades of rule by the corruption-riddled Fatah Party.

The parliamentary victory Thursday stunned even Hamas leaders, who mounted a well-organized campaign but have no experience in government. They offered to share power with President Mahmoud Abbas, the Fatah chief, who said he may go around the new government to talk peace with
Israel.

Underscoring the tensions between the secular Fatah and fundamentalist Hamas, some 3,000 supporters of the militant group marched through Ramallah and raised their party's green flag over the Palestinian parliament. Fatah supporters tried to lower the banner. The two sides fought for about 30 minutes, throwing stones and breaking windows in the building.

Abbas, who was elected last year to a four-year term as president of the Palestinian Authority, has yet to decide how closely to work with a group that built its clout through suicide bombings. But his Fatah Party decided not to join a Hamas government, Fatah legislator Saab Erekat said.

"We will be a loyal opposition and rebuild the party," Erekat said after meeting with Abbas.

Hamas won a clear majority in Wednesday's vote, capturing 76 of the 132 seats in parliament, according to official, near-complete results released Thursday. The results of the popular vote were not announced.

Four independent candidates backed by Hamas also won seats. Fatah, which has dominated Palestinian political life since the 1960s but alienated voters because of rampant corruption, got 43 seats. The remaining went to smaller parties.

Palestinians across the Gaza Strip and West Bank greeted the election results with joy, setting off fireworks and firing rifles in the air.

But leaders across the world demanded that Hamas, which is branded a terror group by the U.S. and
European Union, renounce violence and recognize Israel.

"If your platform is the destruction of Israel, it means you're not a partner in peace, and we're interested in peace," U.S. President George W. Bush said in Washington.

Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian government that includes Hamas members, and senior Cabinet officials held an emergency meeting to discuss the repercussions of the vote. Acting Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni asked the EU not to deal with a "terror government."

Hamas leaders immediately took to the international — and even Israeli — airwaves to send out a moderate message.

"Don't be afraid," Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader, told the BBC.

Mahmoud Zahar, another Hamas leader, said the group would extend its year-old truce if Israel reciprocates. "If not, then I think we will have no option but to protect our people and our land," he said.

At a victory news conference late Thursday, however, Haniyeh said Hamas will "complete the liberation of other parts of Palestine." He did not say which territories he was referring to or how he would go about it.

Hamas has largely adhered to the cease-fire declared last February, while a smaller militant group, Islamic Jihad, carried out six suicide bombings against Israelis during that period.

Abbas said he remained committed to peace talks and suggested they be conducted through the Palestine Liberation Organization rather than the Palestinian Authority. That could help him sidestep a Hamas-run government in peace talks.

"I am committed to implementing the program on which you elected me a year ago," he said in a televised speech. "It is a program based on negotiations and peaceful settlement with Israel."

Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and his Cabinet resigned to make room for a Hamas-led government.

The Islamic group quickly reached out to Abbas to try to work out a partnership, Haniyeh said, adding that he did not expect the Palestinian leader to resign.

Hamas leaders had said before the vote they would be content to be a junior partner in the next government. The group campaigned mainly on cleaning up the Palestinian Authority — downplaying the conflict with Israel — and Zahar said Thursday that Hamas planned to overhaul the government.

"We are going to change every aspect, as regards the economy, as regards industry, as regards agriculture, as regards social aid, as regards health, administration, education," he said.

Some experts believed the Hamas victory would force it to moderate. Others feared it would embolden the group to remake Palestinian life in keeping with its strict interpretation of Islam.

"We don't want the Palestinian people and cause to be isolated. We don't want a theocracy," said independent lawmaker Hanan Ashrawi. "Hamas promises reform, sure they will do that, I would like to see reform. But what worries me is things like legislation on education, culture, social welfare, the ramifications for peace in the future."

Hamas' victory was cheered in the Arab world, though many said they feared the group would become even more radical under pressure from its hard-line backers, Syria and Iran.

The rise of Hamas was certain to be a key issue in Israel's March 28 election.

"Today, Hamastan was formed, a representative of Iran and in the image of the Taliban," said Benjamin Netanyahu, leader of the opposition Likud Party. Labor Party politician Ami Ayalon, a former head of the Shin Bet security service, said Israel might have to change the route of its West Bank security barrier because of the Hamas victory.

Immediately upon taking power, Hamas will be confronted with an avalanche of issues, including what to do about the Palestinian security services, which are comprised of hard-core Fatah members, said Basem Ezbidi, a political science professor at the West Bank's Bir Zeit University. "It's not going to be easy for Hamas to govern these bodies," he said.

Others expected Hamas to fold its own fighters into the security forces.

Hamas' victory virtually ruled out a resumption of stalled peace efforts, and could push Israel to take further unilateral moves to set its permanent borders, following last year's Gaza pullout.

It also could jeopardize hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign donations to the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority.

Speaking at a news conference, Bush did not directly answer a question about the fate of U.S. aid to the Palestinians, though he suggested Hamas' victory could have an impact. "I made it very clear that the United States does not support political parties that want to destroy our ally Israel, and that people must renounce that part of their platform," he said.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is to meet in London on Monday with U.N., Russian and European leaders as the so-called "Quartet" of would-be international peacemakers evaluates the results and tries to decide how to proceed.

"The Quartet reiterates its view that there is a fundamental contradiction between armed group and militia activities and the building of a democratic state," U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. "A two-state solution to the conflict requires all participants in the democratic process to renounce violence and terror, accept Israel's right to exist, and disarm, as outlined in the 'road map.'"

It will be almost impossible for Israel and the Palestinians to sever ties completely. Much of their infrastructure, including water and electricity networks, is intertwined, and the vast majority of Palestinian imports pass through Israeli-controlled borders. Hamas ministers would also need Israeli permission to travel between the West Bank and Gaza

Hamas Election Victory Shocks World (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060127/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinian_election;_ylt=ArHAa_iyEjD1CUr1tmo3voes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)


Title: A Look at Islamic Militant Group's Leaders
Post by: Shammu on January 27, 2006, 05:59:49 AM
A Look at Islamic Militant Group's Leaders

The leaders of the military wing of Hamas, responsible for suicide bombings and other attacks against Israelis, stay underground and out of sight. The group's overall leadership is in Syria. But Hamas' local political figures will be prominent in the new Palestinian parliament.

The Hamas leaders are:

Khaled Mashaal: Recognized as the leader of Hamas, based in Damascus. Mashaal makes the decisions about Hamas policy in consultation with West Bank and Gaza leaders as well as others in Damascus. Mashaal maintains an uncompromising line against Israel. He survived an abortive Israeli assassination attempt in Jordan in 1997.

Mahmoud Zahar: The local political leader of Hamas and a founder of the group, he was elected to the new parliament. He was the personal physician for Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual force behind Hamas who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza in 2004. Zahar adopts a stern, harsh policy toward Israel, promoting the Hamas ideology that rejects the existence of a Jewish state in an Islamic Middle East.

Ismail Haniyeh: The top candidate on the Hamas list and known as a relative moderate in the group, he was elected to the new parliament. Haniyeh is one of the most public of the Hamas figures, remaining available to comment on events even when most of the other leaders drop out of sight for fear of Israeli attacks. (Open mouth, insert foot)

Sheik Hassan Yousef: The top Hamas figure in the West Bank, he was released from Israeli prison in 2004. Yousef is the most moderate of the Hamas leaders, refusing to rule out talks with Israel under strict conditions. He was elected to the new parliament.


Title: Hamas Says It Will Not Change
Post by: Shammu on January 29, 2006, 11:47:34 PM
Hamas Says It Will Not Change

By STEVEN GUTKIN, Associated Press Writer Sat Jan 28, 9:47 PM ET

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Following their resounding election victory, the Islamic militants of Hamas met the question of whether they will change their stripes with a loud "no": no recognition of
Israel, no negotiations, no renunciation of terror.

But the world holds out hope that international pressure can make them more moderate. At stake is the future of Mideast peacemaking, billions of dollars in aid and the Palestinians' relationship with Israel, the United States and Europe.

Hamas' victory — winning 74 of 132 parliament seats in Wednesday's election — has created a dizzying power shift in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, overturning certitudes and highlighting the failure by Palestinian leaders, Israel and the international community to ease growing desperation in the Palestinian territories.

Weekend violence between Hamas and Palestinian policemen mostly allied with long-dominant Fatah, and angry demonstrations by disgruntled gunmen fearing the loss of jobs and income after the Hamas win, have raised the specter of widespread civil strife.

After a brutal five-year campaign by Israel to destroy Hamas and assassinate its top leaders, the organization emerged stronger than ever and is poised to take over the Palestinian Authority.

The U.S. has pushed for democracy in the Middle East, hoping to promote moderation and head off more 9/11-style attacks, but, as in recent votes in Iraq, Egypt and Lebanon, a clean and fair election has empowered Islamists in the West Bank and Gaza.

Israel and the international community repeatedly have demanded that the Palestinian government disarm militias, but now that the main militia appears to have become the government, no one knows what will happen to its weapons.

The win by Hamas — which is responsible for dozens of suicide bombings on Israelis and has long called for the destruction of the Jewish state — caught everyone, including the organization itself, off guard.

Both Hamas and the international community face agonizing dilemmas. Hamas leaders say they won't renounce their violent ideology, but the consequences of failing to do so are likely to be catastrophic: loss of life-sustaining aid, international isolation and a profound setback to their statehood aspirations.

The United States and many European countries say they'll have nothing to do with a Hamas government, but a sharp cutoff in aid and an overly zealous stance could steer the Palestinians further away from moderation at an extremely delicate moment.

An interview with an up-and-coming young Hamas leader in a dusty Gaza Strip field revealed how the organization's slant could shift.

Mushir al-Masri said renouncing the "armed struggle" and negotiating with Israel are "not on Hamas' agenda" because a decade of talking won the Palestinians nothing.

"We cannot waste 10 more years when the last 10 years failed to realize even the minimum amount of Palestinian hopes," he said.

But when an aide tried to put a green Hamas sash over al-Masri's shoulder before a TV interview, the 29-year-old newly elected lawmaker shooed him away. "You should bring me the Palestinian flag," he said, reflecting his movement's stated desire to represent all Palestinians.

By all accounts, Palestinians didn't choose Hamas because they reject peace talks with Israel but rather because they were fed up with graft in the ruling Fatah Party. Hamas candidates ran on a platform of clean government, largely de-emphasizing their militant credentials.

Samih al-Hattab, a 32-year-old policeman in Gaza City, said he voted for Hamas because "everyone wants change," but said he expected the group to soften its stances once in power.

"A politician has to be seasoned and to adapt to the situation he's under," he said, standing outside a mosque where a cleric had just finished a sermon urging Hamas not to follow the corrupt ways of Fatah.

Hamas leaders are aware of their dilemma. Since the election, they have struggled to persuade Fatah to join them in a coalition — hoping to avoid having to deal with Israel and the West. But Fatah has so far rejected the offer.

Hamas victory celebrations have been decidedly muted, another indication the group seeks to handle the situation delicately.

Despite that, tensions are boiling on the streets. Clashes in Gaza between Hamas gunmen and Palestinian police on Friday and Saturday wounded four officers and one Hamas militant.

Also Saturday, thousands of angry Fatah activists, led by masked gunmen firing in the air, marched through several West Bank cities demanding the resignation of party leaders following their defeat.

The growing unrest, combined with the complexities of running a government and world pressure for it to change its ways, pose daunting challenges to Hamas, which has little experience in governance.

If Hamas forms the next government, as is likely, and fails to renounce its call for the destruction of Israel, the U.S. and most European countries are almost certain to cut off the financial aid that keeps the already bankrupt Palestinian Authority running.

Israel, which has urged the international community not to deal with a Hamas government, has substantial leverage in the situation but for now appears intent on holding off on severe measures such as closing border crossings with Gaza or cutting off the monthly flow of tax transfers to the Palestinian Authority.

The Palestinians have a mixed system of government, part presidential and part parliamentary. That means Fatah's Mahmoud Abbas, the moderate president of the Palestinian Authority, should be able to remain in office.

Still unknown, however, is whether Hamas will seize its right to form the new government, taking over the premiership and a new Palestinian Cabinet, and what sort of powers that would give them. The previous Fatah-dominated legislature for the most part fell in line with Abbas.

Hamas Says It Will Not Change (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_hamas__test;_ylt=AgA2u_SukoTQwCOCSWHpz44LewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)


Title: Israel: No Talks Until Hamas Ends Violence
Post by: Shammu on January 29, 2006, 11:49:38 PM
Israel: No Talks Until Hamas Ends Violence

By JOSEF FEDERMAN, Associated Press Writers Sun Jan 29, 3:29 PM ET

JERUSALEM - Israel ruled out contacts with a Palestinian government led by Hamas unless the Islamic group renounces violence and threatened Sunday to "liquidate" militants if they resume attacking Israelis.

Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel will stop the monthly transfer of tens of millions of dollars in tax rebates and other funds to the Palestinian Authority if a Hamas government is installed.

With the latest comments, Israel showed no signs of backing down from the hard line it has taken since Hamas won a surprising landslide victory in Palestinian legislative elections last week.

Hamas, which opposes the existence of Israel and has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bomb attacks, is expected to lead the next Palestinian government, hurting the chances for a peace deal.

Also Sunday, about 7,000 Israeli security forces, anticipating violent resistance, were training to dismantle two small
West Bank settlement outposts later this week, police said. Resistance is expected to be fierce in Amona and among Israeli squatters who took over an abandoned market in the Palestinian city of Hebron.

Israel's Supreme Court rejected a request from Jewish settlers to delay the order, clearing the way for the operation to proceed. It will mark Israel's first evacuation of Jewish settlers since withdrawing from the
Gaza Strip and part of the West Bank in August.

Olmert, addressing the weekly meeting of his Cabinet, said he has been in touch with leaders around the world in recent days and received support for the tough Israeli stance against Hamas.

"We clarified that without a clear abandonment of the path of terror, a recognition of Israel's right to exist in security and peace ... Israel won't have any contact with the Palestinians," Olmert said. "These principles are accepted by the international community. On this issue, I don't intend to make any compromises."

Hamas refuses to disarm or recognize Israel, though it has hinted that it could reach a long-term truce or other accommodation with the Jewish state.

Visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a news conference Germany will only deal with Hamas if it recognizes Israel and renounces violence. Merkel was meeting Israeli and Palestinian officials but said she would not meet Hamas representatives.

Israeli officials said the ban on contacts did not extend to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who accepts the Israeli conditions and is eager to resume peace talks. Abbas was elected to a four-year term last year and remains in power.

However, Olmert said Israel will not hand over value added tax and customs funds it collects on behalf of the Palestinians to a Hamas-led government.

Israel has "no intention" of sending funds to terror groups, Olmert told a joint news conference with Merkel.

Every month, Israel transfers an average of $54 million collected at ports and border crossings. In the past, Israel has held up the transfers during times of tension. Such a delay now would cripple the cash-strapped Palestinian government.

During the Cabinet meeting, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said Hamas "is portraying policies of responsibility" and even has tried to restrain suicide attacks by the radical Islamic Jihad group.

But earlier, Mofaz said Israel is prepared to kill Hamas militants if the group resumes its attacks.

"Those who head terror organizations and continue to engage in terror against the state of Israel will be liquidated," told Channel 2 TV on Saturday night.

During five years of fighting with the Palestinians, Israel killed dozens of Hamas militants in airstrikes, including the group's founder and spiritual leader, Ahmed Yassin.

Since a cease-fire declaration last February, Hamas has not claimed involvement in a suicide attack and Israel has not killed any of the group's leaders.

Abbas, whose Fatah Party was routed in last week's election, has asked Hamas to form a new government and now must find a way to work with the Islamists. The arrangement could potentially put Hamas in charge of some, if not all, of the 58,000 Palestinian security forces.

But Fatah leaders say they will not submit to Hamas' authority over the Fatah-dominated security forces. The way Hamas deals with the security forces will prove key to how smoothly the power transfer goes.

"This is one of the biggest challenges facing Hamas," said Moheeb al-Nawaty, an expert on Islamic groups. "The security forces, their members and leaders, will not give in easily."

Hamas will face a struggle to overcome that internal challenge, plus threats of international isolation and a cutoff in foreign funding, to make good on its promises to clean up the government.

International donors, who have annually made up a huge shortfall in the perpetually strapped Palestinian Authority, are balking at funding a Hamas regime.

Abbas in the past has called on Hamas to disarm, as required in the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan, but never took action against the group.

Hamas' supreme leader, Khaled Mashaal, said Saturday the group would not disarm but suggested it could fold the thousands of fighters in its armed wing into a Palestinian security force.

Israel: No Talks Until Hamas Ends Violence  (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians;_ylt=AvzncMLJI.pej4saKQSXC0pvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--)


Title: Iran to hold Holocaust conference despite furor
Post by: Shammu on January 29, 2006, 11:51:39 PM
Iran to hold Holocaust conference despite furor
Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:23 AM ET

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran said on Sunday it would hold a conference in a few months time to examine the scale of the Holocaust, which President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has described as a myth.

The Iranian head of state has caused international outrage by publicly doubting the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, and calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map".

"The conference to discuss the Holocaust will be held in Tehran this spring," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told a weekly news conference, without giving a precise date.

"There are some unanswered questions about the scale of the Holocaust which should be discussed," he said.

Asefi did not say who would attend but invited British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who this week described the idea of the conference as "shocking, ridiculous, stupid".

Blair has said Ahmadinejad, a former Revolutionary Guardsman elected president by a landslide in June, should visit Europe and "see the evidence of the Holocaust himself".

Asefi accused the West of making an unnecessary fuss about the proposed Foreign Ministry-sponsored conference.

"Why are some Western countries so worried about it? Such remarks are against freedom of thought," he said. "I suggest Blair make a presentation at this conference in Tehran.

"We will give him the time to express his views ... he can defend the Holocaust if he wants to do so."

Regarding Blair's suggestion that Ahmadinejad visit Europe to see evidence of the Holocaust, Asefi said: "We have to see when the president Ahmadinejad has time for it."

Iran to hold Holocaust conference despite furor (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-29T142336Z_01_L29371704_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-HOLOCAUST.xml&archived=False)


Title: Hamas Is Resolute On Fighting Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 30, 2006, 12:01:11 AM
Hamas Is Resolute On Fighting Israel
Militants to Form Army, Leader Says

By Rhonda Roumani and Scott Wilson
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, January 29, 2006; Page A21

DAMASCUS, Syria, Jan. 28 -- Days after Hamas's victory in Palestinian parliamentary elections, the group's exiled political leader vowed Saturday to continue its confrontation with Israel and suggested that the radical Islamic movement would turn its military wing into a national army for defensive reasons "like any other country."

"As long as we are under occupation then it is our right to resist," Khaled Meshal, who lives here in Syria's capital, said at a news conference. He was seated before images of Jerusalem's al-Aqsa mosque, the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Sheik Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi, assassinated leaders of Hamas

Meshal added that as long as Israel targets Palestinians, Hamas would continue to target Israelis.

The comments marked Meshal's first formal statement since Hamas won a huge majority in the Palestinians' next parliament, throwing the political system into uncertainty. They came on a day when young activists from the defeated Fatah movement, whose monopoly on political power ended with Hamas's triumph, demonstrated in several West Bank cities and in the Gaza Strip.

Early in the day, Fatah gunmen briefly occupied the parliament buildings in Gaza City and Ramallah, in the West Bank, although the legislature was not in session. In Nablus, roughly 2,000 Fatah members, some firing weapons into the air, marched through the streets, angry at their party's leadership for the election defeat.

Hamas, formally known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, is designated a terrorist organization by Israel, the United States and the European Union. Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian Authority's president and leader of Fatah, has said he will invite Hamas to form the next cabinet.

Meshal said Saturday that he would consult with Abbas in the coming days in the hopes of forming a "national partnership." Fatah leaders, however, have said they would not participate in a Hamas cabinet.

Officials from the Bush administration, the European Union, Russia and the United Nations are scheduled to meet Monday to begin discussing whether to continue funding a Palestinian government that will include Hamas in a prominent role.

Israel and the Bush administration have demanded that Hamas renounce violence, recognize the Jewish state and disarm its military wing before joining the government.

"I say to the American administration and to the Europeans and to the international community who are asking us to stop the resistance -- or as they call it, terrorism -- that if they don't like the way our armed groups look, we are ready to unify them with the consensus of all Palestinians and make them an army like any other country," said Meshal.

Mark Regev, a spokesman for Israel's Foreign Ministry, said, "Hamas shouldn't be playing verbal gymnastics."

"If they want people to see them as a legitimate part of a political process, it is very clear what they must do," Regev said. "First and foremost, they must renounce terrorism and disarm. And secondly, they have to support peace and accept Israel's right to exist."

Meshal said he had received calls from the leaders of Yemen, Qatar and Syria and from religious figures throughout the Muslim world to congratulate Hamas on its victory. He also called for a larger European role in mediating the conflict with Israel and said the group would be willing to open a dialogue with the United States provided it was not based only on U.S. terms.

He asked the world to respect the democratic choice of the Palestinian people, whom he called an example for the Arab and Muslim world, and not to penalize the elected government by cutting off aid.

"The world raised the slogan of democracy, and now it should respect the results of democracy," Meshal said. "If you want to punish the Palestinian people for practicing democracy, then the American administration should punish Americans for choosing President Bush."

Hamas Is Resolute On Fighting Israel (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/28/AR2006012800263.html)


Title: Arab neighbors will work with Hamas-led cabinet
Post by: Shammu on January 30, 2006, 10:34:57 PM
Arab neighbors will work with Hamas-led cabinet
Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:01 AM ET166

 By Jonathan Wright-Analysis

CAIRO (Reuters) - All the Arab governments around Israel will deal directly with a Palestinian cabinet dominated by the militant Islamist group Hamas, ignoring U.S. and European attempts to isolate the group, analysts said on Monday.

The Egyptian and Syrian governments already have good working relationships with Hamas, although some of their main domestic opponents are Islamists, and would accept a possible role as intermediaries between Hamas and the West, they added.

Egypt may press Hamas to make concessions to demands that it recognize Israel and abandon armed struggle but it will also use Hamas's surprise election victory to argue for changes in U.S. and European policy in the Middle East, they said.

Hamas won a big majority in the Palestinian parliament last week, based on popular frustration with the Fatah movement which has dominated Palestinian politics since the late 1960s.

Arab countries have made few official comments since Hamas's defeat of Fatah, founded by Yasser Arafat and traditionally seen in the Arab world as representing the Palestinian cause.

However, Fatah had gained a reputation for corruption and incompetence and failed to persuade Israel and the United States to deliver on promises of Palestinian statehood.

The analysts said it was Syria, the most aggressively secular government in the region, that had most to gain from the shift in Palestinian politics, because Hamas's success strengthens an embryonic front opposed to U.S. policies.

"GOOD NEWS FOR SYRIA"

The front includes Hamas, Syria, Iran, Hizbollah in Lebanon and Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, which inspired Hamas and itself made strong electoral gains in elections last year.

Islamists also dominate the Iraqi government, in uneasy alliance with the U.S. military on whom they depend.

"One link in the siege against Syria has been broken... Hamas's victory is good news for Syria," said Mohammad Habash, a prominent Islamist lawmaker in Syria.

Syria has been on the ropes internationally for the past year after the successful campaign to make it withdraw troops from Lebanon and the U.N. inquiry into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri.

"The Syrian regime is glad (that Hamas won) because this strengthens the alliance of resistance to the Israeli and American scheme. It gives them a little boost," said Hassan Nafaa, professor of political science at Cairo University and a prominent political commentator.

"Syria is going to be very much encouraged. It will see it as a way of enhancing its own position," added Walid Kazziha, political scientist at the American University in Cairo.

King Abdullah of Jordan, on the other hand, is the major loser in the region, because he has burned many of his bridges with Hamas and faces a domestic Islamist opposition closely linked to the Palestinian movement, the analysts said.

"Jordan is a candidate for change, and I think they are next," said Kazziha, referring to the possibility of Islamists making strong gains in the next Jordanian elections.

EGYPT FAVOURED FATAH

The Egyptian government, which traditionally favored Fatah and its late leader Yasser Arafat, can adapt to Hamas more easily because the Egyptian state is so strong and the level of contact between ordinary Egyptians and Palestinians is lower.

Abdel Raouf el-Reedy, chairman of the Egyptian Council for Foreign Relations, said: "Egypt is a different story... I don't see the same thing happening in Egypt as in Palestine."

In Egypt's first public reaction to the Hamas victory, Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif told Newsweek that Hamas should "work within the framework" of the Oslo agreement of 1993, the peace plan known as the road map and a two-state solution.

Reedy, who was Egyptian ambassador to the United States, said he expected Cairo to work for a reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah, as well as helping persuade Hamas to change its rhetoric on recognition of Israel.

"They (Hamas) will have to move in that direction and Egypt will help with that," he told Reuters.

But other analysts said Hamas would not buy the argument unless Israel made significant concessions toward a territorial compromise acceptable to a majority of Palestinians.

The Palestinians have learned from Fatah's negotiating experience over the past 10 years not to take U.S. and Israeli promises very seriously, they added.

"Egypt has to tell the Israelis and the Americans ... it is about time to say exactly where you want to go, what kind of Palestinian state you want to establish," Nafaa said.
Arab neighbors will work with Hamas-led cabinet (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-30T140124Z_01_L30560369_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-NEIGHBOURS.xml)


Title: Masked Gunmen Briefly Take Over EU Office
Post by: Shammu on January 30, 2006, 10:57:49 PM
Masked Gunmen Briefly Take Over EU Office

By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer Mon Jan 30, 9:21 AM ET

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Masked gunmen on Monday briefly took over a European Union office to protest a Danish newspaper's publication of cartoons deemed insulting to Islam's Prophet Muhammad, the latest in a wave of violent denunciations of the caricatures across the Islamic world.

The gunmen demanded an apology from Denmark and Norway, and said citizens of the two countries would be prevented from entering the Gaza Strip.

"We are calling on the citizens of the two countries to take this threat seriously because our cells are ready to implement this all over Gaza," one militant said.

The 12 drawings — published in September by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten and republished in a Norwegian paper this month — included an image of the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse. Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the prophet, even respectful ones, out of concern that such images could lead to idolatry.

The cartoons have touched off protests, flag burnings and boycotts of Danish products throughout the Muslim world. On Sunday, Palestinian protesters burned Danish flags in two West Bank towns.

In Monday's violence, the gunmen burst into the EU office, then withdrew several minutes later. A group of about 15 masked men, armed with hand grenades, automatic weapons and anti-tank launchers, remained outside, keeping the offices closed. No shots were fired, and there were no reports of injuries.

The gunmen left the building after about half an hour.

The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a violent group linked to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party, claimed responsibility. Al Aqsa has been involved in much of the recent chaos plaguing Gaza.

Jyllands-Posten has refused to apologize for the drawings, citing freedom of speech. The drawings were reprinted on Jan. 10 by Norwegian evangelical newspaper Magazinet in the name of defending free expression, renewing Muslim anger.

Masked Gunmen Briefly Take Over EU Office  (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_denmark;_ylt=AllDJ4vUYrvQN54R8LBg1N5vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--)

My note; And yet the muslims have no problem insulting Christians. ::)


Title: EXPERT: IRAN HAS NUCLEAR BOMB
Post by: Shammu on January 30, 2006, 11:05:06 PM
EXPERT: IRAN HAS NUCLEAR BOMB

ABU DHABI [MENL] -- Iran was said to have acquired a nuclear bomb.

A leading U.S. nuclear proliferation expert said Teheran obtained an atomic bomb about a decade ago from the nuclear black market. The expert said Iran sought to produce additional nuclear weapons through technology from Pakistan and other countries.

"The one functional device Iran has," Mansoor Ijaz, a U.S. nuclear scientist, said, "is the result of clandestine transfers from Pakistan's rogue black market nuclear scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan, who sold the Iranians antiquated but highly effective Chinese bomb designs and parts, including spherical shell casings, spherical Krytron detonation switches and empirical software testing modules."

On Saturday, Iran threatened to launch a missile strike against the West. The commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Maj. Gen. Rahim Safavi, said Teheran could retaliate with the Shihab-3 intermediate-range missile against what he termed was British efforts to foment unrest in western Iran.

My note; I've never used this news site before, so I don't know how true the story is. ........ DW


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: twobombs on January 31, 2006, 01:05:57 PM
URL ?


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on January 31, 2006, 07:17:35 PM
URL ?
I can't post the URL, they are asking for donations, breaking forum rules 2B. Google the title name, you will get a hit on that.


Title: Abbas not demanding Hamas recognize Israel: official
Post by: Shammu on February 01, 2006, 09:09:25 PM
Abbas not demanding Hamas recognize Israel: official
Wed Feb 1, 2006 8:22 AM ET168

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - An official close to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas denied a report from Egypt on Wednesday that Hamas would have to recognize Israel to join the next government.

But the official, who declined to be identified, said the president would insist the new government commit to implementing past agreements with Israel.

Egypt's Intelligence Chief Omar Suleiman said earlier that Abbas, who had met Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo, had told Egypt he would not ask Hamas to form a government unless it recognizes the Jewish state.

Hamas's charter calls for Israel's destruction.

The Palestinian official said formal recognition of Israel would not be a prerequisite for Hamas or any Palestinian party joining a government.

"President Abbas's position is that he will ask any government to work on implementing the commitments of the Palestinian Authority", including an interim peace accord from 1993 and the U.S.-backed peace "road map", the official said.

"This has been his position and he has declared it immediately after the election," the official said, referring to the parliamentary balloting on January 25 in which Hamas won an upset victory over Abbas's long dominant Fatah movement.

Suleiman had earlier told reporters in Cairo Abbas was also demanding that Hamas stop violence and accept agreements which the Palestinians have signed with Israel.

"Hamas has to be committed to three issues -- first to stop violence, this should be its doctrine, second to be committed to all the agreements signed with Israel, third, to recognize the existence of Israel. If they don't do this, Abu Mazen (Abbas) will not ask them to form the government," Suleiman said.

Suleiman is President Mubarak's pointman on dealings with the Palestinians. He has mediated between Hamas and Abbas's Fatah movement and between Israelis and Palestinians.

Egypt is expected to be a prominent intermediary as Abbas and Hamas try to form a new government while averting the danger of foreign donors cutting off aid.

In its own comments on the Hamas victory, Egypt has not taken the position which Suleiman attributed to Abbas on formal recognition of Israel.

Abbas not demanding Hamas recognize Israel: official (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-02-01T132202Z_01_L0125161_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-ABBAS.xml&archived=False)


Title: Saudi Arabia, Qatar to Fund Palestinians
Post by: Shammu on February 01, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
Saudi Arabia, Qatar to Fund Palestinians

By MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH, Associated Press Writer 30 minutes ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Israel froze the transfer of millions of dollars in tax rebates and customs payments to the
Palestinian Authority, and Palestinian officials said Wednesday that Saudi Arabia and Qatar have promised $33 million in quick aid to ease a severe budget crisis.

Saudi Arabia promised $20 million and Qatar pledged $13 million to help the Palestinian Authority pay January salaries to 137,000 employees, a senior Palestinian official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final.

Earlier, Israel said it was suspending the transfer of $45 million in tax and customs revenues it collected in January while Western nations weigh whether to continue supporting the Palestinian Authority after Hamas, with its history of suicide bombings and rejection of Israel, forms a government.

The Israeli action could cause unrest in the West Bank and Gaza.

Western donors, led by the U.S. and EU, funnel about $900 million to the Palestinians each year, most of it designated for reconstruction projects in the impoverished Gaza Strip and West Bank. They are reconsidering that funding, demanding that Hamas recognize Israel and renounce violence.

The 137,000 people on the Palestinian Authority payroll, including almost 60,000 security officers, are supposed to receive their salaries Thursday. Even with promises of new aid, a Palestinian official said the checks would not be ready until Monday at the earliest.

Even a week's delay could mean hardship for large numbers of Palestinians. The Palestinian economy is in tatters after five years of violence with Israel. Unemployment is 22 percent, and even the meager government salaries support extended families in many cases.

Failure to pay the January salaries could pose the most difficult test yet for Hamas, which has resisted international demands to recognize Israel, disarm and renounce violence.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Israel was "not out of sync" with the rest of the world in holding up the transfer. He said in the past, when Israel suspected the Palestinian Authority was using funds to support violence, Israel put its money into escrow accounts, releasing it later. He said that would be the practice this time, as well.

Palestinian deputy Finance Minister Jihad al-Wazir, said contacts are in progress with the Israelis and he was hopeful the funds could be transferred in the coming days. He said there are also contacts with world donors aimed at maintaining levels of foreign aid.

Economics Minister Mazen Sinokrot said Israel is in violation of interim peace accords, which require it to transfer the customs and taxes. "The Israeli side is not permitted legally to freeze the money of the Palestinian Authority, which is the money of the Palestinian people," he said, adding that Israel owes $53 million, not $45 million as it maintains.

Regev said Israel and the world cannot be expected to "finance people who believe that the solution is the destruction of Israel by suicide bombings and violent jihad."

In all, the Palestinian Authority needs some $116 million every month to cover the payroll. It has repeatedly borrowed from banks and received additional support from donor countries. However, the Palestinian Cabinet secretary, Samir Hleileh, said it appears unlikely the banks would lend to the government in times of uncertainty.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar to Fund Palestinians (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_aid;_ylt=AphAXelryy_J71JgSOcvN2AUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-)


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: nChrist on February 01, 2006, 10:10:00 PM
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Saudi Arabia, Qatar to Fund Palestinians

Dreamweaver,

I really don't find this surprising at all since they have been supporting terrorists all along. Now they're just admitting it and making it public.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 23:2 NASB  He makes me lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside quiet waters.


Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on February 02, 2006, 05:25:40 AM
Dreamweaver,

I really don't find this surprising at all since they have been supporting terrorists all along. Now they're just admitting it and making it public.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 23:2 NASB  He makes me lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside quiet waters.
Brother, to Christians this isn't suprising. To a non-believer they may learn something new. Thats one of the reasons, is to show, we are closing in on the end times. When will it happen? only the Father knows he only gave us signs to look for. :D



Title: Caught in the fray: Turkey enters debate on Iran's nuclear program
Post by: Shammu on February 03, 2006, 12:53:46 AM
Caught in the fray: Turkey enters debate on Iran's nuclear program

By Yigal Schleifer, Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor Thu Feb 2, 3:00 AM ET

ISTANBUL, TURKEY - Blanketed in deep snow and shivering through subzero temperatures for most of the past two weeks, Turkey recently had to contend with yet another piece of chilling news. Supplies of natural gas from
Iran, used for heating homes and powering factories, were unexpectedly cut by almost 80 percent.

The Iranians, who supply close to a fifth of Turkey's natural-gas supply, blamed the shortfall on technical problems and increased demand at home.

But some Turkish analysts, noting Iran's ability to offer emergency gas supplies to Georgia during the same period, suggested another reason: By choking off the gas stream, Iran was sending a not-so-subtle message to its neighbor to stay out of any Western efforts to rein in its disputed nuclear program.

The timing would make sense. After staying on the sidelines of the international debate over Iran's nuclear efforts, Turkey has recently entered the fray.

During a mid-January press conference, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called on Iran to adopt a more "moderate and amenable" approach in the diplomatic negotiations over its nuclear program.

"The continuation of Iran's nuclear program for peaceful ends is a natural right, but it is impossible to support it if it concerns [the development] of weapons of mass destruction," Erdogan said, echoing Western concerns.

p>US and European efforts to rein in Iran's nuclear program received a boost Monday, when Russia and China agreed to a resolution asking the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to refer Iran to the UN Security Council for sanctions at an emergency meeting in Vienna Thursday.

Meanwhile, the Turkish capital has been a revolving door of diplomatic traffic in recent months, with visits to Ankara from CIA chief Porter Goss and FBI head Robert Mueller, as well as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Israeli chief of staff Dan Halutz. According to reports in European and Turkish papers, one of the main reasons for the visits was to discuss Turkey's role in containing Iran's nuclear ambitions.

"My sense is that the Turkish strategic community, after some years of wariness but not deep concern, is now paying attention to the proliferation risks to Turkey," says Ian Lesser, a public-policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington specializing in Mediterranean security issues.

"There is much more of a debate in Turkey now then there had been because it's not a theoretical issue anymore."

Shared border and $4 billion in trade Turkey and Iran share a 310-mile border, and both Turkish and Iranian diplomats like to point out that the two Muslim neighbors have been at peace for centuries.

But Turkish analysts say that peace is based on a delicate balance of military power between the two countries, one that would be fundamentally disturbed if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons.

"The bottom line is that Turkey can't accept an Iran with nuclear weapons. A nuclear-weapons-capable Iran or a nuclear-armed Iran is not in the interest of Turkey," says Mustafa Kibaroglu, an expert on nuclear nonproliferation issues at Bilkent University in Ankara.

The increasing international pressure on Iran comes at a time when the Turkish government, led by the moderately Islamic Justice and Development Party (AKP), has been working hard to improve relations with its neighbors, especially Iran. The past few years have seen bilateral trade between Turkey and Iran grow dramatically, shooting up from $1 billion in 2000 to $4 billion in 2005.

The government's approach, says Mr. Kibaroglu, has led to a division among Turkish policymakers about how to proceed on the Iran question. "I don't think the officials agree among themselves what to do," he says.

"The perception of the government, as far as I can see, doesn't fit the perception of the military. The military is more skeptical of Iran's intentions compared to the politicians who run the country."

US pressure versus regional security For now, analysts say, the split revolves around how aggressively Turkey should involve itself in diplomatic efforts to contain Iran's nuclear program.

Both the government and the military currently oppose any sort of military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, fearing that would dangerously inflame the region, analysts say.

Turkish officials say they are putting their country's position on the issue in line with the European Union, urging the use of diplomatic means to resolve the crisis and offering Turkey's services as a mediator between Iran and the West.

But some in Turkey are expressing concern that should there be a push for a military attack against Iran - particularly from the United States - Turkey might again find itself in a position similar to that before the 2003 invasion of
Iraq, when it was forced to choose between its regional security concerns and increasing alignment with the EU's soft-diplomacy approach, and US demands for facilitating military action.

"There is an understanding between the US and Israel and Turkey on the perception that Iran may become a threat if it develops nuclear weapons. There is also a common understanding with the rest of the world that [Iranian president Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad is becoming a dangerous leader with his very provocative and aggressive statements," says political analyst and columnist Sami Kohen in Istanbul.

"As far as all that is concerned, there is common ground. But the question is how do you deal with the problems, and that's where the differences are."

But the Wilson Center's Lesser says both Turkey and the US have learned the lessons of the events preceding the Iraqi invasion, which led to severe strains between Turkey and the US after the Turkish parliament refused to allow the American military to use Turkish soil for its operations.

"I don't think the United States has any assumptions about the Turkish willingness to facilitate a strike against Iran, especially after the Iraq experience," he says.

"I think there is a lot of caution on both sides right now."

Caught in the fray: Turkey enters debate on Iran's nuclear program (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060202/wl_csm/ocrunch_1)


Title: Putin’s Comments on Hamas Spark Row Between Russia, Israel — Paper
Post by: Shammu on February 03, 2006, 12:56:51 AM
Putin’s Comments on Hamas Spark Row Between Russia, Israel — Paper

Created: 02.02.2006 12:18 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:18 MSK, 20 hours 23 minutes ago

MosNews

Russia and Israel are on the verge of a diplomatic row after President Putin stated at a personal press-conference that Russia never viewed Hamas as a terrorist organization.

According to Moscow Kommersant daily, Israeli officials were shocked by Putin openly supporting Palestinian terrorists.

Commenting on Hamas recent victory at the Palestinian legislative elections at a press conference Tuesday, Putin said Russia never declared Hamas a terrorist organization, although it never supported its actions. The West should not cut financial aid because of the Hamas’s victory in the elections, he added.

“Hamas must refrain from radical statements, recognize Israel’s right to exist, and establish contacts with the international community,” Putin said. “We’re calling upon Hamas to consistently work in that direction.”

However recognizing Israel was just one of the three issues that the international community demands from Hamas in an agreement that Putin has also signed. Hamas has to be committed to three issues — to stop violence, to follow all the agreements signed with Israel and to recognize the existence of Israel.

Israeli authorities cannot accept a position that assesses terrorism in different countries differently.

“Hamas terror actions have killed more than 550 Israelis, many of them of Russian origin. We cannot see the difference between a bus explosion in Jerusalem and a terrorist attack in Moscow or Beslan,” unnamed Israely diplomat was quoted by Kommersant as saying.

Putin’s Comments on Hamas Spark Row Between Russia, Israel — Paper (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/02/02/israelupset.shtml)


Title: Iran's message to the west: back off or we retaliat
Post by: Shammu on February 03, 2006, 01:02:10 AM
Iran's message to the west: back off or we retaliate

Ewen MacAskill and Simon Tisdall
Thursday February 2, 2006
The Guardian

Iran's foreign minister yesterday threatened immediate retaliation over a move to refer its nuclear activities to the United Nations security council in comments which deepen his country's confrontation with the international community.

In an interview with the Guardian - his first with western media - Manouchehr Mottaki accused the US of manufacturing the crisis and insisted there was still time to avoid a collision. But he warned that any military action by the US or Israel against Iran would have "severe consequences" and would be countered "by all means" at Iran's disposal.

Reflecting a hardening Iranian position, he threatened to end snap UN inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities and all other voluntary cooperation with the UN nuclear watchdog, if Iran is referred to the UN today or tomorrow.

He also vowed that Iran will match any sanctions with measures of its own and warned that the west would quickly regret any resort to military action. The escalating crisis could further destabilise the Middle East by intensifying US and British difficulties in Iraq and Afghanistan, and could spell an end to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which seeks to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons.

Mr Mottaki, who was appointed by Iran's hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in September, said Iranian retaliation would come "simultaneously" with any decision on referral by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN nuclear watchdog, which meets in emergency session in Vienna today. Iran had not ruled out further steps, including withdrawal from the NPT and the permanent ejection of UN inspectors. "If the Iran dossier is reported to the security council, the additional protocol [which allows UN inspectors to conduct snap inspections] will be the first victim," he said.

Asked whether Iran was prepared to use its leverage in Iraq, where Iran has been accused of aiding attacks on British troops, and elsewhere in the region, Mr Mottaki said Tehran's actions would "correspond" to western political, military and economic pressure.

Israel, along with the US, has not ruled out air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities if diplomacy fails. "Iran does not think that the Zionist regime is in a condition to engage in such a dangerous venture and they know how severe the possible Iranian response will be to its possible audacity," Mr Mottaki said. "Suffice to say that the Zionist regime, if they attack, will regret it." That message was underscored yesterday by Iran's defence minister who said that any attack on Iran would bring "a crushing response".

Mr Mottaki said the US, even with 200,000 troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan, was unable to impose its will on the region. "It would be better for President Bush to spend the second half of his presidency governing his country in a calmer manner." He urged Britain and other European countries to postpone a decision on UN referral until a scheduled meeting of the IAEA on March 6. "There's still time for our European friends to take a wise decision not to take wrong steps."

The foreign minister said Mr Bush had lied to the American people about Iran in his state of the union speech on Tuesday night and he rejected any chance of direct contacts with the US. The Guardian interview in London was held before Mr Mottaki had talks with Jack Straw, the foreign secretary. A Foreign Office spokesman said later: "Mottaki was warned not to walk away from the IAEA additional protocol or to make threats."

Today's showdown at the IAEA follows Iran's decision to resume uranium enrichment research last month, a move condemned by Britain, France and Germany as a breach of earlier undertakings. Western countries suspect Iran's civil nuclear programme will be used to manufacture nuclear weapons. But Iran says it has an inalienable right to civil nuclear power and denies seeking the bomb. Mr Bush, in his Tuesday speech, called Iran "a nation now held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people". But Mr Mottaki said the president's attempt to appeal to the Iranian people was doomed to failure. "Six days from now in the Ashura ceremony [a Shia Muslim festival] in Tehran, the Iranian people will respond to Mr Bush's comments."

Mr Ahmadinejad, who also rejected the US president's comments yesterday, described the US as a "hollow superpower" that is "tainted with the blood of nations".

Mr Mottaki came to London for a two-day conference on the future of Afghanistan. In a further indication of hostility towards Israel, he urged Hamas, winner of last week's Palestinian elections, to continue its policy of armed struggle. "The victory is the victory of the resistance," he said. "Our impression is they will insist on the continuation of resistance until the rights of the Palestinian people are secure."

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Title: Re: Prophecy and End Time Series. - Israel
Post by: Shammu on February 03, 2006, 01:06:10 AM
Iran Threatens Full-Scale Enrichment Work

By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 32 minutes ago

VIENNA, Austria - Iran threatened to retaliate Thursday in the face of almost certain referral to the U.N. Security Council for its nuclear activities, and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said the dispute was "reaching a critical phase."

Ahead of a decision by the IAEA's 35-nation board, U.S. and European delegates turned to behind-the-scenes diplomacy to build the broadest possible support for reporting Iran to the council over concerns it is seeking nuclear weapons.

Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, in a letter made available to the AP, warned IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei that referral would leave Iran no choice but "to suspend all the voluntary measures and extra cooperation" with the IAEA — shorthand for reducing IAEA monitoring to a minimum.

Cuba, Venezuela, Syria and a few other nations at odds with Washington remained opposed to referral. India was said to be leaning toward supporting referral.

Diplomats accredited to the IAEA meeting said backing for Iran had shrunk among the U.N. nuclear watchdog's board since Russia and China swung their support behind referral at an overnight meeting with the United States, France and Britain — the other three permanent council members — that started Monday.

"There's a solid majority in favor of reporting," Gregory L. Schulte, the chief U.S. delegate to the IAEA, told The Associated Press. "There's even a more solid majority after Monday."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack the number of nations expected to vote against referral were in the "low to single digits."

Iran remained defiant. Larijani told ElBaradei that his country would severely curtail agency inspections and resume uranium enrichment if reported to the council.

Furthermore, "all the peaceful nuclear activities being under voluntary suspension would be resumed without any restriction," said the letter, suggesting a resumption of work on full-scale uranium enrichment — a possible pathway to nuclear arms.

Iran has made such threats before. What was significant this time, however, was that the warnings were in the form of a formal notification to the head of the IAEA.

As Thursday's meeting adjourned, U.S. and European diplomats intensified efforts to widen support for a European draft resolution calling for Iran to be brought before the council.

ElBaradei said there was a "window of opportunity" to defuse the crisis, stressing that even if the issue is referred, the Security Council would not take up the issue before next month.

"We are reaching a critical phase but it is not a crisis," he said.

Iran, which claims its program is peaceful and aimed only at generating electricity, has repeatedly warned that such action would provoke it into doing exactly what the world wants it to renounce — starting full-scale uranium enrichment — as well as curtailing IAEA inspections.

Key members of the Security Council remained unmoved.

Grigory Berdennikov, Russia's chief IAEA delegate, reinforced Moscow's position outside the meeting, saying referral to the Security Council would send Iran "a serious signal."

Schulte agreed.

"It is time to send a clear and unequivocal message to the Iranian regime about the concerns of the international community by reporting this issue to the Security Council," he said.

Washington has waited years for international suspicions over Iran's nuclear ambitions to translate into support among board nations.

Only a simple majority is needed to approve the text, but the United States and its backers have held off pushing for earlier referral in hopes of building support for the measure. Support has grown since Jan. 10, when Iran stripped IAEA seals from enrichment equipment and announced it would restart the program.

While a broad majority of member nations support referral, a few countries that have policy disputes with Washington remain opposed — among them Cuba, Venezuela, Syria and Belarus.

"My delegation manifests its total disagreement with the proposal ... to bring it to the Security Council," said Venezuela's Gustavo Marques Marin. And Syria's Safwan Ghanem told reporters: "We will vote 'no.'"

A vote was expected Friday or Saturday. Countries opposed have the choice of voting against the text or abstaining.

Speaking for Germany, Britain and France — the three nations representing the European Union — German chief delegate Herbert Honsowitz told the meeting: "The time now has come for the Security Council to get involved."

The confidential draft resolution obtained by the AP "requests the director general to report to the Security Council" on steps Iran needs to take to dispel international suspicion it could be seeking to manufacture nuclear arms.

The draft expresses "serious concerns about Iran's nuclear program" and notes "the absence of confidence that Iran's nuclear program is exclusively for peaceful purposes."

If the board approves referral as expected, it will launch a protracted process that could end in Security Council sanctions for Tehran.

But no action is expected for weeks, if not months. Moscow and Beijing support referral only on condition that the council do nothing until at least March, when the board next meets to review the status of an IAEA inquiry into Iran's nuclear program and recommends further action.

"I am making very clear that the Security Council is not asked at this stage to take any action," ElBaradei said.

Berdennikov also told reporters that Russia "insists" no Security Council action be taken before March.

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Title: Iran launched 'secret' rocket test
Post by: Shammu on February 04, 2006, 01:49:14 AM
 Iran launched 'secret' rocket test
From correspondents in Berlin
February 04, 2006

IRAN secretly tested a new surface-to-surface missile (SSM) on January 17, seeking to establish the measurements needed for long-range missiles, the German daily Die Welt reported in its issue to appear today.

The test, conducted by members of the Revolutionary Guard led by Yahya Rahim Safavi, was successful, according to Western diplomats cited by the newspaper, which did not indicate the location where the test took place.

On January 28, Safavi said that Iran would use its ballistic missiles if it was attacked.

"Iran has a ballistic missile with a range of 2,000 kilometres," he said on Iranian public television.

"We do not intend to attack any country, but if we are attacked, we are capable of effectively responding. Our position is defensive."

Mr Safavi was referring to the Shahab-3 missiles that Iran possesses which can reach Israel and US bases in the Middle East.

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Title: Iran to 'immediately' resume uranium enrichment
Post by: Shammu on February 04, 2006, 12:50:02 PM
Updated Feb. 4, 2006 18:09
Iran to 'immediately' resume uranium enrichment
By JPOST STAFF AND AP

Iran announced on Saturday that it would "immediately" set into motion steps to restart full-scale uranium enrichment and curtail the inspecting powers of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The statement came just minutes after the International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation board voted on referring Iran to the UN Security Council. The motion was approved by 27 of the member states. Five nations abstained, and only Cuba, Venezuela, and Syria opposed.

The approval of the draft was enabled by a compromise reached among the five permanent UNSC member states to delay its discussion of the matter until March. Following the compromise, China and Russia agreed to back the move, recruiting the support of several other states.

The resolution expresses "serious concerns about Iran's nuclear program." It recalls "Iran's many failures and breaches of its obligations" to the nonproliferation treaty. And it expresses "the absence of confidence that Iran's nuclear program is exclusively for peaceful purposes."

It requests IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei to "report to the Security Council" steps Iran needs to take to dispel suspicions about its nuclear ambitions.

The resolution calls on Iran to:

# Reestablish a freeze on uranium enrichment and related activities.
# Consider whether to stop construction of a heavy water reactor that could be the source of plutonium for weapons.
# Formally ratify an agreement allowing the IAEA greater inspecting authority and continue honoring the agreement before it is ratified.
# Give the IAEA additional power in its investigation of Iran's nuclear program, including "access to individuals" for interviews, as well as to documentation on its black-market nuclear purchases, equipment that could be used for nuclear and non-nuclear purposes and "certain military-owned workshops" where nuclear activities might be going on.

The document was enabled by a compromised reached between the United States and Egypt backing a nuclear-weapons-free middle east. A reference to Israel's alleged nuclear weapons.

A majority of board members backed referral but possible delay had loomed after United States and Egypt tangled over linking the issue to long-standing Arab demands that Israel - generally considered a nuclear power - give up such arms.

Diplomats familiar with the issue said France, Britain and Germany - the three European nations formally submitting the US-backed draft resolution calling for referral - had mediated between Cairo and Washington.

A Western diplomat at the meeting said the United States felt strongly about not linking its ally Israel to nuclear concerns in the Middle East when it considers Iran the real threat in the region. But the Americans agreed in the face of overwhelming support for inclusion of such a clause from its European allies spearheading the resolution.

Egypt, whose support of the resolution is key to swaying other Arab board members to join in backing it, was looking to make the linkage to satisfy broad domestic concerns, a senior European diplomat said.

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Title: UNSC: Hamas must recognize Israel
Post by: Shammu on February 04, 2006, 12:55:16 PM
UNSC: Hamas must recognize Israel
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
UNITED NATIONS

The UN Security Council told Hamas on Friday that a future Palestinian government must recognize Israel and commit itself to a negotiated settlement of the Mideast conflict culminating in two independent states living side-by-side in peace.

The council commented for the first time on the Islamic group's surprise victory in the January 25 Palestinian elections in a presidential statement that was delayed because of Qatar's demand for more criticism of Israel.

It congratulated the Palestinian people "on an electoral process that was free, fair and secure" and commended all parties involved in preparing and conduction the election.

The council welcomed the commitment by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, whose Fatah Party was defeated in the election, to the roadmap to peace drafted by the United Nations, the United States, the European Union and Russia. It also welcomed his commitment to a negotiated two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and previous agreements between the two parties.

"The Security Council expresses its view that all members of a future Palestinian government must be committed to the aforementioned instruments and principles," the council said in the statement read at a formal meeting by US Ambassador John Bolton, the current council president.

Leaders from Hamas and the Fatah party have met twice in recent days to discuss the formation of a new government following Hamas' landslide victory. Hamas has said it would like Fatah to join in a coalition, but senior Fatah leaders said they preferred to stay in the opposition.

The Security Council reaffirmed "its profound attachment to the vision of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side-by-side in peace and security" and reminded both parties of their obligations under the roadmap.

It underlined the need for the Palestinian Authority "to prevent terrorist attacks and dismantle the infrastructure of terror." Without naming Israel, it also called for a halt to settlement expansion and expressed concern about the route of the security barrier Israel is building to keep out Palestinian attackers.

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Title: Merkel: Iran nuke policy like Nazism
Post by: Shammu on February 04, 2006, 01:08:37 PM
Merkel: Iran nuke policy like Nazism
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

The International Atomic Energy Agency's vote Saturday to refer Iran to the UN Security Council met with the approval of many world leaders.

Most enthusiastically approved the motion, urging the international community to act hastily to prevent the nuclear armament of Teheran.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel advised on Saturday to act without delay to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, saying that Iran had "blatantly crossed the line."

The chancellor compared Iran's nuclear policy to the Nazi party's rise to power in Germany, warning that in the past the nations of the world refused to take a stance against concrete threats, enabling some of history's greatest catastrophes.

Merkel also condemned Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his refusal to recognize Israel. "Any president that questions Israel's right to exist and questions the Holocaust cannot expect any tolerance from Germany," she warned.

Influential US Senator John McCain told America's allies Saturday that the military option could not be ruled out if diplomatic efforts fail to stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb.

"Every option must remain on the table," McCain told an international security conference. "There's only one thing worse than military action, that is a nuclear armed Iran."

Russia's Foreign Ministry on Saturday urged Iran to "respond constructively" to the UN nuclear watchdog's call for full cooperation.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Mikhail Kamynin said in a statement that Moscow is calling on Teheran to "respond constructively to the (IAEA) board's call for full cooperation in resolving the remaining problems, including the restoration of a voluntary moratorium on all uranium enrichment works."

He did not mention an Iranian official statement saying Teheran considered Russia's enrichment offer dead following the IAEA decision to refer Iran to the UN Security Council.

US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Saturday urged the world to work for a "diplomatic solution" to halt the nuclear program of Iran, a nation he called the "leading state sponsor of terrorism."

According to prepared remarks for delivery at an international defense conference, Rumsfeld said the US stands "with the Iranian people, who want a peaceful, democratic future."

"The Iranian regime is today the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism," he said. "The world does not want, and must work together to prevent, a nuclear Iran."

Rumsfeld painted a stark picture of a lengthy war against ter