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46  Fellowship / Parenting / Re:Parenting With Prayer on: October 25, 2004, 10:38:46 PM
sincereheart, you avoided posts I made to you after you accused me of bad theology. Why don't you defend your stance? Do you have a husband? If so, could you let him attack me instead of you? If not, could you please reply to the posts where you mocked me?
47  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Bush is a liberal on: October 25, 2004, 10:27:45 PM
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Yep, it's messy no matter how you slice it.

I see this just the same.
48  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Bush is a liberal on: October 25, 2004, 08:48:42 PM
He funds abortion, stem cell research, foreign adventures, etc. It's not to say the Dems are better, because they are worse, it's just that the difference is in degree, not in principle.

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On the campaign trail, President Bush professed to be “pro-life”, but with exceptions – he believes abortion to be justified in cases of rape and incest., The New York Times reported, “It was the same tempered language that George W. Bush typically uses to discuss abortion, which he opposes except in cases of rape, incest or risk to a pregnant woman's life.” As Alan Keyes pointed out in the Presidential debates and in various speeches, such pro-life exceptions that allow the innocent to be killed in some circumstances disqualify President Bush from being pro-life at all. If President Bush would justify the killing of one innocent person under his jurisdiction, he is disqualified from being a good person, much less a good leader. Having a rapist for a dad is not a capital crime, and for President Bush to state that innocent children can justly be killed because of the tragic circumstances of their conception reveals that he doesn’t comprehend the basic principle of the inalienable, inviolable, God-given right to life acknowledged in our nation’s founding documents.

http://www.ohiocp.org/whynotbush.php

I think it's a sin to support either candidate.
49  Theology / General Theology / Re:!0 Commandments, 'Important' Before, or After on: October 25, 2004, 07:18:44 PM
They are important as summations. The only one that gets singled out is the 4th by some people who haven't thought things through. But remember that they are summations. The details have changed for some, but that's a difficult subject.
50  Theology / Apologetics / Re:National Geographic slams Christians! on: October 25, 2004, 03:07:24 PM
All those people looking for a resistant TB cure are standing on the shoulders of people like Leuwenhook, Pasteur, Mendel, etc..none of whom believed in evolution.

Sounds like the guy's insecure, perhaps a Christian girl wouldn't go out with him in college or something.

Those guys feel somewhat under threat, as homeschooled and Christian schooled kids do better in science than kids who are taught evolution.
51  Theology / General Theology / Re:Sabbath on: October 25, 2004, 02:59:15 PM
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Your quote from Mishna Rosh Hashana, showing that some festivals days were kept as a 2 day festival for Jews outside of Jerusalem does not explain what you said in your intial post. Taking a one day festival and celebrating it for 2 days would not have affected the week days, it did not make the 7th day fall on a Thursday, Friday, etc. as you said earlier.


My initia post was correct. If the first of Nisan was a Sabbath, and the eighth, fifteenth and so on then you could corelate it with our chalendar. But if the first of Nisan is a Sabbath, and two days ellapse between the first and the second day of Nisan, then you can't corelate the two chalendars unless you had a list of the extra days, and exactly when they fell, from the 4th Century AD backwards till the giving of the Ten Commandments. No such documentation exists, nor will it ever.

We count every day, even leap year's Feb 29th. The Jews didn't during the time between the giving of the Ten Commandments (or posibly before) until the time of Christ.

There are seven days in our week and we count them all. During OT times some weeks had 7 days, some had 8,9 and possibly ten, but only 7 were counted. So on any given year, if we could use a computer to go back, and we had records, some years the seventh day would equate to our Saturday, and some years it wouldn't. It could even vary during a given year.
52  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today on: October 25, 2004, 10:14:58 AM
I see the incarnation, death and resurrection of Christ is the middle of history. In other words, the world got worse and worse from the fall to the time of Christ, just look at life spans, the descriptions of inferior Kingdoms in Daniel, etc.. and with the Passion and Glorification of Christ, the trend is reversed and we are slowly working back to the garden of Eden.
53  Theology / Debate / Re:Satanic Holy Days on: October 25, 2004, 07:05:22 AM
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And obviously, what Paul is saying here in Romans 3 is not at odds with the Law because he later says: "Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.


We are having a discussion between one person, Chesed, who is a legalist, and several others who are antinomian. Both schools of thought lay outside mainstream Christianity.

The way to understand the law is to ask youself how the particular law was fulfilled in Christ.
54  Theology / Debate / Re:Satanic Holy Days on: October 25, 2004, 07:00:36 AM
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If you no longer sacrifice animals to cover your sins, you are a dispensationalists. If you do not adhere to the Sabbath Day Laws of the Old Testament, then you are a dispensationalists. If you do not believe that circumcision is required today, then you are a dispensationalist

You dilute the mean of the word into nothingness. Dispensationalism is a modern heresy that has infected the church, especially here in the US. That's all that it is.
55  Fellowship / Just For Women / Re:Need help with a title for new CHristian Book!!! on: October 24, 2004, 10:20:17 PM
No, the cop wasn't there, so I made a citizen's arrest.
56  Fellowship / Parenting / Re:Spare the Rod? on: October 24, 2004, 10:17:00 PM
I've got a hundred hives, which translates to about a day per week of work. It's been 20 years, and I have experience in 4 Continents. I make about 800 dollars per month extra money, but the main thing is that I'm making a lot of people happy. I don't boil or microfilter my honey, it's right out of the hive, as I believe God intended.

The Hebrew word for bee is Deborah, and my second daughter got that name for obvious reasons!

And you can see from this photo that I am an expert in bee managment.



57  Theology / Debate / Re:Over 13,000 Civilians Killed in Iraq on: October 24, 2004, 09:37:38 PM
You are a gracious person with Christian integrity.
58  Fellowship / Just For Women / Re:Need help with a title for new CHristian Book!!! on: October 24, 2004, 09:00:21 PM
Why don't you let the ladies talk to each other? Didn't you read the forum description?
59  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Left-wing Bigotry on: October 24, 2004, 08:56:45 PM
There really aren't too many traditional conservatives around anymore. Just yesterday there was a post on this forum recommending that Falluja should be destroyed. That's just as bad as killing Jews or the unborn.

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This may upset people but I believe Jerry Falwell was correct in his statement that the sins of America where what caused 9/11. But I also believe that it was the only way that God could get our attention to what was happening in Iraq.

Yawn. Saddam was killing a bunch of crazy Kurds who have as an ethnic group killed more Christians than anyone else in the history of the mideast. Ask the next Armenian or Assyrian you meet what they think of Kurds.

Killing in cold blood is evil, but killing Protestants in Zimbabwe is just as bad as killing Kurds, no?

It was far better in Iraq for Christians and unborn kids in Iraq under Saddam as it was and is in China for Christians and unborn kids. But it's hopeless talking to the herd when they are stampeding.

How many of the neocon Jews or Christian Zionists like Falwell are advocating military action against China?

None. Iraq was a puny nation who couldn't fight back, China can. No wonder neocons are called "chicken hawks" and "small, round shouldered men who never volunteered for military action". We are not righteous in smashing a poor, weak nation, we are a bunch of bullies every bit as bad as the commies and nazis.

But tell me anyone who dares to be honest. How many human beings (including the unborn) have been killed in Iraq during the past 10 years as opposed to China?
60  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Left-wing Bigotry on: October 24, 2004, 06:52:24 PM
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We as Christians cannot stand by like so many did when Hitler was killing millions of Jews
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The nazi eugentic policies were indeed influenced by Amecian policies. Sanger was a daugher of her father the Devil.

I object to singling out Jews though. If anyone is interested in the various Nazi eugenic policies we can speak further, but for now the T-4 Euthanasion program targeted primarily Germans from the very start, then later morphed into what the bureaucrats call the 14f13 program which targeted Soviet mental patients so that their beds could be freed up for German casualties. Standing by while German and Slavic mental patients were murdered or American unborn babies are murdered is no different than standing by while Jews were muredered. No difference at all.

The Norwegians also had a similar program after the war, "Tyskerbasters" is a key word that will get the interested person more info.
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