Ecumenical movement

[LoggedintoJesus]

I believe in Christian unity , its a comand of the Lord.

But there is ecumenicalism and I find it to be a unification of faiths
or professed christian churches and also other religions , with contradiction of doctrines.
Its by doctrine that we prove all things , so how can anything be verified if doctrine is set aside through compromise?
  Impossible to set aside doctrine , and still be able to stand for the truth.Many died rather then compromise through out history! Compromise is just that ,"selling away truth". Or what ever it is the persons believe, they are giving it up.Or I would say being unfaithful to the Lord would be more accurate, as a christian!For the expense of unity. No Way! Unity is to be in Doctrine and Spirit, the Spirit is also the "Spirit of Truth" so doctrine should be easily regognized because of the Spirit of truth, which is the Holy Spirit, who leads us into all truth.
May sound simple ,but I see it that way. The Spirit Of God only has one voice , not many. 2 tim 3v16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God ,and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness.

I can see a lack of teaching of the scriptures being  a problem, but the word and the Spirit of God are sufficent for unity.
The Lord commands unity , and He does not ask what we cannot do.
I see ecumenicalism as something entirely different, Its not a doctrinal unity , so the Spirit of truth is not in it.Impossible for that to be.So what is it?  I believe its the one world religion for the one world order being set up for the Antichrist.
whats surprising to me is how they are all jumping in now !

Im not sure if I can mention names here , so I will not.

[JudgeNot]

LoggedintoJesus;

Are you saying it is wrong for organizations like Promise Keepers to reach across denominational barriers in an effort to unite men in Jesus?  

[LoggedintoJesus]

The Gospel is for all to hear and obey.
The Gospel and the doctrine of it, which is the New testament , is not in any way to be  compromised.Many have  died for that fact .
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.

Anyone that does compromise the truth , is a contradition to the truth they proclaim.

So any Group that compromises the truth is not being truthful .
So what Jesus would they be preaching?

Preach and proclaim Christ faithfully.No appolgies for the truth is needed.
Jesus will save and also offend others, so is the gospel offensive?
yes it is to some and to others its good news, Compromise is nothing but sin against the truth and its author. May we all be faithful to the truth and grow in grace and the knowledge of Him.



 

[JudgeNot]

Great sidestep.
You must be a wonderful dancer.

[LoggedintoJesus]

If you are looking for a yes or no answer , Of course its wrong to compromise !  I thought an ignorant question could use some clarification ! Please dont ask any more Ok!

[JudgeNot]

If you are looking for a yes or no answer , Of course its wrong to compromise !  I thought an ignorant question could use some clarification ! Please dont ask any more Ok!

Hey - you got it!  You will get no more ignorant questions from me.

God bless...
JN

[LoggedintoJesus]

I hope thats a promise ! No foolish ones either !  

[Soldier4Christ]

I thought an ignorant question could use some clarification ! Please dont ask any more Ok!

I hope thats a promise ! No foolish ones either !  

That is a bit harsh for a simple question. If you did not want to answer it directly then say so. There is no reason to call someones question ignorant or foolish.

[nChrist]

If you are looking for a yes or no answer , Of course its wrong to compromise !  I thought an ignorant question could use some clarification ! Please dont ask any more Ok!

   Wow??  Christians from various churches have fellowship all of the time and in many ways. Loving JESUS as LORD over your life is more than sufficient for all kinds of positive things together.

Here's another question for you, and I really could care less whether you think it is an ignorant question or not. In fact, your opinion about the intelligence of my question would be my absolute last concern and consideration.

Is your opinion and doctrine that you personally believe the ONLY TRUTH?  If there is any change of opinion by anyone else, I can only assume it should be to your way of thinking, your doctrine, and your opinion - RIGHT???  Yes or No

Lost people don't share your beliefs and doctrine, so do you refuse to talk with them?  Yes or No

Should the Boy Scouts disband because they go to various churches?  Yes or No

UM?? - I'll reserve the rest of the lengthy list of charities and civic organizations who feed and clothe people and a host of other things that would apply to the LOVE commanded by Christ.

Just for information, compromise isn't required for many groups of Christians who love JESUS. JESUS as LORD makes it real easy and comfortable to join with others in all kinds of activities that fulfill the New Testament commands of JESUS to love one another. In fact, it's amazing how well Christians join together in common causes that definitely serve the LORD.

   I'm having a panic attack in waiting to know whether you think my questions are ignorant or not.  

[LoggedintoJesus]

Do you believe The word of God Yes or No!

I do All of it.

I would have no problem believing you do not. Because you are contrary in your statements.
You believe only that which you choose.
there is no personal interpertation .

If you think I do not believe all of it then call me a liar!  I can see that you are not true to what you profess or you would understand me. The bible says phoneys would not understand.

YOUR JESUS IS NOT THE ONE OF THE BIBLE , OR YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THE bIBLE ,all of it , not just some of it.


I have no further need to interact with such foolishness here.


My suggestion is read the Bible and obey it. All Of it.

Dont judge me if you dont even know the faith.

Hope you will some day!

Bye

[Soldier4Christ]

Apparently you need to heed your own advise and read the Bible.


Ecc 7:8  Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.
Ecc 7:9  Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

[nChrist]

 

UM?? The Boy Scouts won't understand this one.  

[M]

I have no interest in one ecumenical church for all Christians.

Most churches have enough problems but this ONE church would just spend all the time arguing:

wine or grape juice
sprinkle or dunk
seven sacraments or no sacraments
how often to have communion
wonder bread, matzo, or wafers

The list goes on.

Wait for Christ to come.  I like HIS church.

[nChrist]

M,

If the subject is one world church, the first one won't be for Christians. I'm hoping and praying that the Body of Christ is home with JESUS before then.

Until then, Christians have and will find many things that do result in varying degrees of fellowship. It won't reach the unity and peace  spoken of by the Apostle Paul, but loving JESUS as LORD can and does remove many barriers that result in a semblance of the Christian Love commanded by our Lord and Saviour. It's really a fairly poor semblance most of the time, but there are at least attempts. Charity is probably the best example of an attempt. Many other attempts are varying degrees of failure. Regardless, Christian love is commanded toward one another and the lost.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Isaiah 26:3  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.