what about mike?

[thommy]

Hello all,

While I too have my quams with some of Michael Moore's work, I read somewhere here that someone went so far as to call him anti-christian.  I see alot wrong with his style as a filmaker, but I'm not sure if I saw anything decidedly anti-christian about Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine or even his most recent peice.  My memeory may be shady, or perhaps I missed something,  but perhaps someone (or several of you) can tell my why you feel he is against christians in particular.

thanks,

Thom

[Bronzesnake]

Hello all,

While I too have my quams with some of Michael Moore's work, I read somewhere here that someone went so far as to call him anti-christian.  I see alot wrong with his style as a filmaker, but I'm not sure if I saw anything decidedly anti-christian about Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine or even his most recent peice.  My memeory may be shady, or perhaps I missed something,  but perhaps someone (or several of you) can tell my why you feel he is against christians in particular.

thanks,

Thom

 Why do you presume "several of us" can answer for a statement made by someone else? Do you assume all Christians believe Moore is anti-Christian? Do you assume it? I mean, you are a Christian...right? I certainly am not gullable enough to believe the one sided propaganda films that he produces, but I haven't a clue as to whether he's anti-Christian or not. You really should ask the person who said it. Do you know that Hitler produced many films documenting the evil and dangerous Jews? His films were quite good also - technically speaking...but the odd thing about films like his and Moores is - they don't offer any opposing viewpoints or commentary, and they're full of garbage!

 I suspect you motives aren't that genuine though my friend. It seems obvious from reading every post you start that you are here only to fire loaded questions across the bow.

 I haven't seen a single non aggressive thread from you yet...for example, I don't see you posting anything on any specific biblical doctrine - I don't see any posts from you regarding any testimony which glorifies Jesus. I only see passive-aggressive, loaded questions.
 I wonder why that is? hmmm.

Bronzesnake

 

[nChrist]

Thommy,

I simply consider Michael Moore to be an idiot and liar who made a ton of money in hurting our country, our country's interests, and the Armed Services of our country. Calling what he does documentaries is an outrageous joke.

Other than the above, I think that he represents the very worst of this country, and I have no use for him at all. He's simply a rich garbage peddler, and that's the nicest thing I can think of to say about him. Reference anti-Christian, that's the primary fuel that drives most of the ultra-liberals. It would really go much further than anti-Christian - hatred of Christians and everything they stand for. That might not be true for a small portion of the far left, but it's true for the majority of them. George W. Bush represents their worst nightmare, and they can't bear to hear his thoughts about God, prayer, morals, and values. Hatred of George W. Bush and everything he stands for was probably Moore's primary motivation. People who believe Moore's garbage need adult supervision.

[Shammu]

A liberal on the left side of your party? You mean the Nazi party? Don't forget, Hitler was a Christian too, Errrr, Catholic. Hitler shared more values with modern day liberals (gun control, big government, hate for the Catholic Church, etc.) than with Christians.

Michael Moore is a well known distorter of the truth. His films can not be considered documentaries. No movies made by Micheal Moore have any facts in them and he is the last place you should be looking for truth. If you disagree with George Bush's policies thats fine, but don't use information from Moore to try to prove anything.

http://bowlingfortruth.com/
http://www.mooreexposed.com/
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Also in case you didn't know the 9/11 commission has said that there is absolutely no connection between 9/11 and Iraq!! Someone should do a documentary on Michael Moore and see if He likes it.

[Bronzesnake]

People who believe Moore's garbage need adult supervision.

 AMEN!  way to call em like ya see em BEP!

Hey DW...Great links!

Bronzesnake

[thommy]

Hi DW et. al.

I agree with you to a point that some of Mike Moores stuff is slanted, and clearly has a bias.  I do not, however, think that his bias is any more dangerous than the stuff being produced by so called pundits such as Bill O'reilly or Ann Coulter.  Perhaps we can simply see Moore as a liar who tells lies to refute the lies told by the other two?  Either way, I think that Moores films can be helpful, in that they spark a public debate about various social issues.

Also, DW, I noticed that you mentioned the 9/11 commison report in your post, saying that " Also in case you didn't know the 9/11 commission has said that there is absolutely no connection between 9/11 and Iraq!! Someone should do a documentary on Michael Moore and see if He likes it."  I'm not sure if you were aware, bu that kind of prooves the entire point of the guys movie, in that G.W. used the ruberic and fear that came out of 9/11 to get the american people on side for an invasion of iraq.  The entire movie was based on the notion that there was no real connection between Osama and Saddam, and it was all fabricated by the old boys club .  By putting that in your post, you're actually supporting Michael Moore's case! Maybe you should rent it! I'm sure he'd be delighted to know that you're such a fan, and have finally statred seeing things his way.

[musicllover]

     I can't say anything about the 9/11 movie, I refused to support/see the movie because of what I seen in the bowling for Columbine movie that I had to watch for a college.
    Columbine moive, I disliked that moive, because it was written like the gospel according to Michael, this is TRUTH, when it was his truth only. It was the twist to make evil look good......an interview with Marilyn Manson (my papa phrase) where Manson says.... the boys who did the shooting were misunderstood kids, society let these boys down, so in ohter words Manson is saying..SHAME ON SOCIETY.

     What is wrong with that, its true right,...GOOD GRIEF we all can agree those kids were misunderstood,... most murders do have issues obviously....., here is the twist, Manson says soicety let them down....yet it was HIS music they were listening too, building alter to the devil while they listened to his music about killing and suicide, he is the part of the society that let the kids down with the garbage he sings, Manson lead our kids astray, he claimed his music didn't have anything to do with the shootings, and if he'd had the oppertunity he would have sit down and listen to those boys....... WHAT!!!!!, he sings about satan, blood, guts, gore, suicide, rebellion, totally anti christian....yet he is the nice guy and call soicety the bad guy. Both manson and moore pointed the finger of guilt on the next guy.
   
    The way moore works is like a magician and his magic trick with mirrors elements of truth but a littel turn this way or that then you have a completely different view. ANd that really really goes agiasnt the Spirit of God that lives in me.
Moores productions causes more confusion (who is the father of confusion and lies?), what good does his films cause?,
       
 The scriptures tell us what to do with the Moores of this world, .....You will know them by the fruits they bare......
....if they can't say Jesus is Lord.....
     The real issues with Moore, for me, its in the way he portrays his views, he is a modern day false prophet and using his money and influence in his so called documentaries, which are suppose to be unbiased. You admit to seeing  the slant, why would anything that takes away from Christain values be good for society?  He is a wart on societies behinds as far as I am concerned.
musicllover