So Be It.....

[sincereheart]

Sorta funny.....
from an e-mail....

So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.  And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, of which they deem their
authority, then so be it.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions. I would like to think that those people have my best interest at heart.
BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?
I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.
I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter as well as Sundays.
I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break."

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.
It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other days of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct".
This would not affect any "non-governmental" business since everyone else still has the freedom of religion, we could all
still enjoy our holidays.
So I guess if they continue to bow to the wishes of the few, & if this e-mail gets out to the right people, maybe they would bow to the wishes of the many. So be it...........

[Shammu]

I'd love to have my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. Us taxpayers wouls save a bunch of money that way........  

[Bronzesnake]

 Hey! Good one!

 I just copied it and Canadianized it for my end of the globe!

[Alnilam]

"under God" isn't on U.S. currency.  But I know what you mean.

[sincereheart]

"under God" isn't on U.S. currency.  But I know what you mean.

Good point! It was a cut and paste!   Sorry!
Guess it should have said:
In God We Trust!

But it does kinda get the point across that while non-Christians fight against Christianity, they don't seem to mind all the benefits! Including the hard won freedom to speak out against it!

[Alnilam]

Nothing to be sorry for, I'm sure we all understood.

I think we will be hearing a lot more about "under God" this coming Monday, the 50th anniversary of the phrase in the PoA.  I think the Supreme Court will use the opportunity to announce their decision in BOE v Newdow.

Anybody wish to make a prediction ?  I will start - 5 to 3 to affirm.  Anyone else ?

God Bless

Alnilam

[Alnilam]

Looks like I got the date correct   but the decision wrong.    But the decision on standing as opposed to merit seems like taking the easy way out.  

Any comments ?

[ollie]

"Moses and/or the 10 Commandments appear three times in the architectural embellishment of the Supreme Court building. Two of these representations depict Moses as simply one of several important lawgivers; these representations tend to disprove the idea that the 10 Commandments have some special relationship to American law. The third instance has the Commandments as one of two artistic adornments on a set of doors."


 http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tnppage/arg8a.htm

[Alnilam]

Hi Ollie,

I'm familiar with the two depictions of Moses.  Please tell me where the 10Cs are on the doors.  Are they really there or is it just the Roman numerals.  They are not on the main (outer) doors but the SCOTUS site does not mention anything on the inner doors.

Thanks !

Alnilam

[ollie]

Hi Ollie,

I'm familiar with the two depictions of Moses.  Please tell me where the 10Cs are on the doors.  Are they really there or is it just the Roman numerals.  They are not on the main (outer) doors but the SCOTUS site does not mention anything on the inner doors.

Thanks !

Alnilam

"The Oak Courtroom Doors. The oak doors separating the courtroom from the central hallway of the Supreme Court building contain a representation of tablets bearing the Roman numerals one through ten; the Commandments themselves are not written out. The tablets depiction is located on the inside bottom of the doors. A second artistic embellishment (a circle with engraved woodwork) is located at eye-level on the inside of the doors. Click here for a close-up of the tablet depiction. Click here for a picture of the entire door (the tablet depiction is the bottom circle).

It's interesting to note that the engraved circle embellishment is placed at eye level, while the 10 Commandment depiction is placed toward the bottom of the door in an out-of-the-way position. The Commandments are, of course, a perfectly logical artistic embellishment for a court of law but, given its placement, it doesn't appear that the artist has any special regard for the Commandments. Additionally, we note that the oak doors seem to be of little consequence as artistic creations. A search of the University of Louisville library turned up a number of books that discuss the architecture of the Supreme Court, and while all of them discuss the two pieces mentioned above, none of them mention the doors. It does not appear, in other words, that the doors are regarded very highly by scholars of art.



A Questionable Representation of the 10 Commandments:


The East Courtroom frieze depicts two male figures representing "The Majesty of Law" and "The Power of Government." Between the figures is a single tablet bearing the Roman numerals one through ten. While some accommodationists interpret this tablet as the 10 Commandments, every source I've consulted says that the tablet represents "early written laws." I see no ground for thinking that these books are wrong, especially since (1) these scholars have studied the original explanations of the art provided by the artists themselves, and (2) the 10 Commandments are usually depicted as being written on two tablets. We're trying to find a copy of Weinman's original commentary on this sculpture. When we do, we'll post it here.


Where are depictions of Moses and the 10 Commandments omitted?


The short answer: almost everywhere where they ought to appear if the intent of the art was to indicate a connection between the 10 Commandments and American law. There is nothing in the artistic embellishment of the Supreme Court building that would indicate that the artists had any special regard for the 10 Commandments.
Consider, for example, the North (front) entrance to the building. If there was any desire on the part of the artists to indicate a fundamental role for the 10 Commandments, this would be the place to do it, but the front of the building contains no references to Moses or to any other Biblical theme. Rather, one encounters two massive Roman-type sculptures representing "The Authority of Law" and "The Contemplation of Justice," a frieze depicting "Equal Justice Under Law," and a set of massive bronze doors that depict scenes from Greek, Roman, and Anglo-Saxon law. None of these are connected in any way to Biblical themes. Similarly, there are all sorts of artistic embellishments scattered throughout the main floor of the building, but none of them are obviously religious. Put simply, there is little in the Supreme Court Building that suggests any desire on the part of the artists to enshrine the 10 Commandments as the foundation of our law.

Finally, we note that not once are the actual words of the 10 Commandments reproduced in the Supreme Court building. One finds tablets, and sometimes these tablets have Roman numerals on them, but we never find the Commandments written out. If the intention of this art is to convey that the 10 Commandments are so important to our law, wouldn't it make sense for them to be reproduced in full at least once?"

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tnppage/arg8a.htm


It is a cut and paste from an article that seems to be saying that the artist that did this work on the supreme court building had no intention of reflecting the influence of the ten commandments on American law. The artist depicts other law givers from the East as well as Moses in his artwork for the building of the Supreme Court.

[Alnilam]

Thank you Ollie, that was very interesting.

God Bless !

Alnilam