Democracy

[tqpix]

This might get a little controversial, but I don't care.

Democracy is a tool of oppression.

In 30 A.D., Pontius Pilate made people vote on who to release, Jesus or Barabas.  People chose Barabas and had Jesus crucified.  Yes, that's right, democracy lead to the crucifixion of our LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Democracy was partly responsible for the holocaust.  Using the democratic process, Germany put Hitler in power.  Hitler's reign of power lead to World War II and the holocaust.

The rules of democracy has to be changed.  Democracy was designed to only listen to the majority, not the minority (i.e. majority rules); as a result, democracy oppresses certain minorities.  As an example, let's say there are two candidates running for the presidency.  One of the candidates is an extremely deformed, unattractive man.  What are the chances of that man becoming president?  No matter how good the speeches he give, or how much he cares for people, his chances are slim to none.  Only Christians would probably vote for him.

In conclusion, democracy plays favoritism/partiality towards the majority (i.e. people who are like the average Joe), which is always a no-no (Leviticus 19:15; Deuteronomy 16:19; Proverbs 24:23, 28:21; James 2:1).

[JudgeNot]

Yes!  Democracy in its pure form is absolutely oppressive (to minorities and minority points of view).  That is why the USA is a Republic.

[Tibby]

Plato rated it was one of the lowest forms of Government. I'm wish Judgenot, that god we are a Democratic Republic. Direct Democracy is a tool of oppression. Thank god we don't use it.

[Whitehorse]

Yes!  Democracy in its pure form is absolutely oppressive (to minorities and minority points of view).  That is why the USA is a Republic.

YES!!!! Amen, brother!!

[Symphony]

What brought this up, all of a sudden, tqpix?

Every form of worldly government will ever be even in the best of instances only an approximation.  

All a democracy, republic, theocracy or any other variation on the theme of gov't does, is further disenfranchise or distribute any central power.

It's all only a question of how power--in this case worldly power--is "distributed".

Aaron Burr and Alex Hamilton fought a duel over this, with a fatality--Federal or central vs. state or distributed power.

How do you want your worldly power distributed?  Take your pick, and go and live there--from Edie Amin in the
Congo, to Wash. D.C here in the West.

Every place has its deadly underbelly.  We have our "freedom", but we use to endorse homosexuality and, now, we will even be "teaching it" in our schools.  And you will be wrong if you say no.

So is this a "free" country.  No.

We are either slaves of King Jesus, or we are slaves of someone or something else.

Human beings are not "free"('cept in and thru the Person Jesus Christ).

Civil rights here, and personal freedoms, are red herrings, and only "make" everyone think they are "free".

Just try disagreeing with the gay agenda.

[H. Bonaparte]

The homos, the perverts, the rapists, the Democrats, the Liberals, and Hillary Clinton ALL love democracy. See, democracy brings socialism because the people vote to steal from other people. You cannot avoid the end-result of socialism.

You don't negotiate with terrorists or blackmailers because when you do, you give value to their crimes. You encourage more people to become blackmailers and terrorists because they profit from it. They can get what they're looking to get from Liberals because Liberals are ignorant.

If you give money to someone who kidnaps one of your children, if you give them a million dollars, then you motivate them to kidnap your next kid. But Liberals don't have the intelligence to understand any of this.

Democracy is left-wing, a lot of people don't realize that.

"Democracy" is when a man and a woman on a deserted island voting on sleeping arrangements. "Democracy" is two wolves and a sheep voting to determine which one gets eaten.

[Reba]

The story is well worth the read. It is of Davy Crockett and Horatio Bunce.


http://www.otherside.net/crockett.htm

[mac]

in my poli-sci class my instructor mentioned taught that we dont live in a democracy but a plutocracy instead.

A Plutocracy comprises a government system where wealth is the principal basis of power (from the Greek ploutos meaning wealth).

The influence of wealth on governance can be expressed either via the wealthy classes directly governing, or (more typically) by the wealthy classes using money to control the government. This control can be exerted positively (by financial "contributions" or in some cases, bribes) or negatively by refusing to financially support the government (refusing to pay taxes, threatening to move profitable industries elsewhere, etc).

makes sense to me considering that congress is a buncha rich boys...not to mention you have to have a good amount of connections with the wealthy class to get a chance at presidency

[JudgeNot]

in my poli-sci class my instructor mentioned taught that we dont live in a democracy but a plutocracy instead.

A Plutocracy comprises a government system where wealth is the principal basis of power (from the Greek ploutos meaning wealth).

The influence of wealth on governance can be expressed either via the wealthy classes directly governing, or (more typically) by the wealthy classes using money to control the government. This control can be exerted positively (by financial "contributions" or in some cases, bribes) or negatively by refusing to financially support the government (refusing to pay taxes, threatening to move profitable industries elsewhere, etc).

makes sense to me considering that congress is a buncha rich boys...not to mention you have to have a good amount of connections with the wealthy class to get a chance at presidency

Mac - your poli-sci instructor sounds like a Marxist, (so many college professors are...) He is right, we don't live in a democracy and we do not want to live in a democracy, but it doesn't sound as if he is a freedom-loving individual.

FYI - It is all about power.  Wealth is the basis of power for any system.  A free-market society such as ours depends on wealth to fuel growth.  "Redistribution of wealth", which is what liberal democrats advocate, causes social apathy ("why work or try to do better than anyone else?  I'll get my share anyway").  Apathy is bad news, my friend.  

[JudgeNot]

Mac,
A quick followup on my last post:

There are many well-meaning people today who work at placing an economic floor beneath all of us so that no one shall exist below a certain level or standard of living, and certainly we don't quarrel with this. But look more closely and you may find that all too often these well-meaning people are building a ceiling above which no one shall be permitted to climb and between the two are pressing us all into conformity, into a mold of standardized mediocrity. The tendency toward assembly-line education in some of our larger institutions, where we are not teaching but training to fulfill certain specific jobs in the economic life of our nation, is a part of this same pattern.
Ronald Reagan, Commencement Address at Eureka College, 1957

FYI, according to Nancy Reagan, Ronald's deep beleif in God lead him to pray regularly and frequently.  In fact she said of him "...he prays more than any man I have ever known".

[Tibby]

Mac - your poli-sci instructor sounds like a Marxist

That is EXCACTLY what I was thinking! It is strange, the ones who seem the least into Marxism are the Pol guy! English Profs, love it. Philosophy Profs, love it. Political Science Profs, hate it. Funny thing, I get the same effect with Creationism and Bio profs

[ebia]

Democracy is left-wing, a lot of people don't realize that.

ROTFLOL.

You're not Australian by any chance?



The only thing going for democracy is that all the other forms of (human) government ever invented are worse.

[Allinall]

I think we should have a king.  I think I should be that king.  Anyone agree?  

[Tibby]

I agree with the first part

[Reba]

           

1 Sam 8:11-18

11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.

14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.

15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.

16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.

17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
KJV